Sears Family

Hello,

Been very interested in this food choices thread - what issues have you seen/worked through that parent's may have preventing them from being able to fully "unschool" when it comes to food choices?

I know that I get very uncomfortable with "eat what you want" since we have had guidelines/rules about food, and the initial "go crazy" phase really triggers me. I have confidence in my head that the idea of open food choices is sound - (I had a really hard time letting go of controls around video games about a year ago - now it's truly open season with the video games, and I'm very comfortable with it. This brings me confidence in ALL open choices, moreso than if I hadn't lived through the really uncomfortable part to get to a more balanced sense of life with video games.) I seem to react emotionally whenever I've even remotely tried open food choices. Which hasn't been for very long because I get so triggered that I think I'm easier to be around when I have some control over food. I know on this list that sounds terrible - but I'm truly trying to figure out what is blocking me, because I'd like to get to the other side. But, just letting go and jumping right in has not really helped. I have been saying yes more often - for sure. And, when babysitters come and I'm not around, they do have open season on all sorts of treats, along with healthy treats.

So, for my own clarity, some rules I have in my home:
(again - for my clarity, and perhaps to discuss how "controlling" I am, to flash it out for all to see, and perhaps others who are not completely allowing open choices but would like to can identify- all in hopes of breaking through whatever this barrier I have is):
-no sweet treats before a meal, particularly breakfast. "healthier food first - ie, oatmeal, toast, eggs, fruit, "
-often limit amount of dessert/sweet treats eaten (ie - one bowl of ice cream)- sometimes because I'm triggered, sometimes because I'd like to make the box of ice cream last longer, since the budget is not allowing lots of leeway
-If one food is requested over and over in one day - will often suggest another food, and point out that they've already had 4 bowls of oatmeal - perhaps their body might like something else? This is likely along the lines of open chioces - after I've said that, if they still want oatmeal - I am happy to make it. If it were to be ice cream - that would be a different story.
-requests for candy are mostly met with a no if we're out - we provide them with allowance each week, and they are entitled to purchase whatever they want with it - candy included. However, I know they often ask if what they're buying "is okay" - I often say yes. Once I have truly graduated to the other side, they won't ask anymore. That would be great.
-pop is definitely limited to parties/babysitters in our house, and the times my dh has one. He likes it, so there is often pop stored in the cold cellar for those occasions. Any requests by the kids to have pop in between is met with a no. All the time. Pop is a big trigger for me. I can't seem to get over that coins disintegrate in it, the total lack of nutrition in it, and the large amount of calories/artificial sweeteners. It will probably be the last thing I'll let go of.

Interesting, pop was always on the counter as I grew up. My dad (an alcoholic) always mixed vodka with it. I think I associated the pop on the counter with him, and never had any interest in the pop on our counter, although would drink it elsewhere as a teen. As I learned how to treat my body well, I just lost a taste for it.

Stories/comments on how you transitioned, if you ever had to, from some control over food choices to no controls over food choices would be great.

Thank-you!

MIchele

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TreeGoddess

On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Sears Family wrote:

-=-Pop is a big trigger for me. I can't seem to get over that coins
disintegrate in it.-=-

That's an internet rumor/urban legend, Michelle. Here's a link to
Snopes with info: http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp More
Coke-lore at http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cokelore.asp

-Tracy-

"Peace will enter your life, but you need to
clear a spot for her to sit down."

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Angela S

<<-no sweet treats before a meal, particularly breakfast. "healthier food
first - ie, oatmeal, toast, eggs, fruit, ">>



We don't have any food rules here. My dd had a poptart first thing this
morning. About half an hour later, she followed it with an apple.



<<-often limit amount of dessert/sweet treats eaten (ie - one bowl of ice
cream)- sometimes because I'm triggered, sometimes because I'd like to make
the box of ice cream last longer, since the budget is not allowing lots of
leeway>>



My kids never ask for a second bowl of ice cream. I am the only one who has
trouble with having a second bowl of ice cream.




<<-If one food is requested over and over in one day - will often suggest
another food, and point out that they've already had 4 bowls of oatmeal -
perhaps their body might like something else? This is likely along the
lines of open chioces - after I've said that, if they still want oatmeal - I
am happy to make it. If it were to be ice cream - that would be a different
story.>>>



If they asked for oatmeal, I wouldn't suggest something else. My kids (and
I) tend to eat in cycles anyway. Sometimes I'll make fajitas every day for
lunch for a week. Then I'm sick of them for a month or two.


<<-requests for candy are mostly met with a no if we're out - we provide
them with allowance each week, and they are entitled to purchase whatever
they want with it - candy included. However, I know they often ask if what
they're buying "is okay" - I often say yes. Once I have truly graduated to
the other side, they won't ask anymore. That would be great.>>



Requests for candy don't happen every day here or even every week, but I do
try to get them the candy if they really want it and it isn't going to break
the budget, which it usually isn't. My older dd's Halloween candy is still
in the pantry and she could have eaten all of it if she had wanted to on
Halloween night. I realize that some kids have a sweeter tooth than my
older dd because my younger one does, but she still doesn't eat all her
candy at once. She makes it last. Same with the poptarts or other treats.
She wants them to last so she might eat one a day.


<<-pop is definitely limited to parties/babysitters in our house, and the
times my dh has one. He likes it, so there is often pop stored in the cold
cellar for those occasions. Any requests by the kids to have pop in between
is met with a no. All the time. Pop is a big trigger for me. I can't seem
to get over that coins disintegrate in it, the total lack of nutrition in
it, and the large amount of calories/artificial sweeteners. It will
probably be the last thing I'll let go of.>>



Stomach acid would probably melt coins too. :-) My dh keeps soda in the
house. I only like soda when we order pizza out. It just doesn't quench my
thirst. My kids don't really like the bubbles very much but now at 8 and
10, they'll drink a little. It's never been off limits and maybe that is
why it isn't a big deal to them? Or maybe they just don't really like it.
I don't know. I do make cool aid in the summer and we make home-made
lemonade with lemon juice from a bottle. I tend to make it with less sugar
than any store bought sweetened beverage and the kids are generally happy
with it. Once in a while they'll add more sugar to their cup if it isn't'
sweet enough. My kids also drink a lot of water and really like water, esp.
in hot weather. Sometimes one will choose lemonade and the other will
choose milk or water.




<<<Stories/comments on how you transitioned, if you ever had to, from some
control over food choices to no controls over food choices would be great.>>



When my kids were smaller, I definitely didn't bring lots of candy and
sweets into the house. What they didn't know about, they didn't miss. I
bake though and we almost always have something sweet in the house that I
made. It wasn't until I had kids that I tried to make our sweets more on
the healthy side. I use whole wheat flour in my cookies and bars, I make
homemade granola bars with oatmeal and grapenuts in them, pumpkin squares
with pumpkin in them. Sutff like that. My kids like the goodies I make so
they don't feel deprived of sweets. I try to keep fresh fruit in the house
but it's expensive and so we don't have as much as I'd like. I wish it
lasted longer.



I used to make sure the kids had something healthy before eating sweets, but
I gradually started saying yes to any request and I realized by watching
them that in the end it all worked out anyway. I could have made my dd eat
an apple before the poptart this morning, but she ate it after anyway.
What difference does it make?

My kids are just as excited about getting a box of strawberries as they are
a bag of Cadbury mini eggs. They know not all foods are the same
nutritionally. We talk about stuff like that, just like we talk about
everything else in life. It just doesn't seem like a big deal what order
they eat their food in because I know from experience that it'll all even
out over the course of a few days.

One thing my kids do that seems peculiar to some people is eat one food at a
time, very often. My younger dd, the one who likes sweets more than the
other, will often eat a big bowl of frozen cooked peas for lunch. That is
what she requests. Some nights for supper, she'll request potato and that's
it. Last night she had pulled pork. Nothing else when we sat down to eat
together. Before bed she had French bread. If you add the bread to the
meat, it would be like having eaten a pulled pork sandwich for supper. She
just didn't eat them together. She also had ice cream yesterday, and
grapes, and carrots, and an apple, and a poptart. I can't remember what
else.

Angela

Game-enthusiast@...



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Aimee

<<My kids like the goodies I make so
they don't feel deprived of sweets. I try to keep
fresh fruit in the house
but it's expensive and so we don't have as much as I'd
like. I wish it
lasted longer.
>>

I freeze a lot of fruit when it's on sale, and in
season. (I don't freeze melon, but I just haven't
tried it, because it doesn't last longer than a day
anyway. lol but I can't think of any other fruit you
can't freeze).

Just wash it, let it dry, lay it on a big cookie sheet
in a single layer, on parchment paper or foil so it
doesn't stick, in the freezer, and then when it's
frozen throw it in a plastic bag. The the rest of the
year we buy frozen fruit, it's expensive, but not so
expensive I can't buy it. Again, I stock up when it's
on sale.

Alex eats a smoothie almost every day. Vanilla
yogurt, frozen strawberries and blueberries, a banana,
and oj. The other day, getting out the fruit, I saw
the cheapo vanilla ice cream, and threw a small scoop
in there, too, it was incredible. :-)

We're gonna try freezing the bananas, heard that's
good.

It has everything in there, calcium, fiber, a little
fat for absorption of the vitamins, blueberries have
the lycopenes, or whatever, lol, but we just know how
it makes us feel, which is very good. ;-)

~Aimee



In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned find
themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists.

- Eric Hoffer

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<<requests for candy are mostly met with a no if we're out - we provide
them with allowance each week, and they are entitled to purchase whatever
they want with it - candy included. However, I know they often ask if what
they're buying "is okay" - I often say yes. Once I have truly graduated to
the other side, they won't ask anymore. That would be great.>>

I didn't foresee it happening, but my kids who have had food choices since
they were born (nursing on demand and never pressing foods they turned away
from as they got older) and who are NOT told "no" to candy requests when we're
out very rarely request candy.

Kirby wants RedVines to take with him to an anime convention once a year.
He hands them out. They call him "licorice boy." Last year he paid for his
own, and someone brought him a tub, too, at the site, as a donation to his
distribution plan.

Holly usually has a box of candy in her room and offers it to guests. She
has often thrown out the end of it for getting too old.


But we never say no. It's just not a thing they want.

Joyce wrote something really great about the value of saying yes:
_http://sandradodd.com/joyce/yes_ (http://sandradodd.com/joyce/yes)

The changes it makes are to the core of who a child is, and of who the
parent is. It's WAY bigger than all the candy in town.

-=- Any requests by the kids to have pop in between
is met with a no. All the time. -=-

"No" hurts more than soda pop.
"No" is "you are small and I am big, but when you are big you can have all
the soda you can possibly drink." It makes them want to grow up rather than
be who they are, where they are. It's not trust-building.

Trust is bigger than all the soda in the world.
It can make or break your unschooling.

-=- I can't seem to get over that coins disintegrate in it=-

You have some soda in the basement at your house right now. Dissolve a coin
in it. That will convince your kids, won't it? Write and tell us how long
it took to dissolve, okay? And tell us why it didn't dissolve the can it was
in, if you still feel like writing.

-=-Stomach acid would probably melt coins too. :-) -=-

It doesn't, or it would be no problem when people or zoo animals swallowed
"foreign objects."

Sandra






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In a message dated 3/25/2005 9:36:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
brewstersears@... writes:

Stories/comments on how you transitioned, if you ever had to, from some
control over food choices to no controls over food choices would be great.





I did it just like I did the entire shift to unschooling. I spent just one
weekend surrounded by unschooling families at a Live and Learn Conference and
I came home and really just did it all on a leap of faith. I didn't imagine
it could do much harm and I just knew it my heart that the people I met that
weekend were on to something good!

I just let go of my arbitrary rules and kept reading and breathing and
reading some more. The kids were just fine. They stayed up late a lot and
watched TV and ate lots of stuff that I wasn't altogether comfortable with. I
occasionally bit my tongue as they ate cookies for breakfast or cheese and
crackers all day long. I let them make their own decisions about what and when they
ate but I also made sure we had a good balance of all types of food in the
house.

It was the best transition for us because our home was very rule oriented.
I didn't even know the terminology of rule vs principle living but letting
go of all our rules at once allowed me to step back and examine each of them
and be able to understand and discover living by principles.

Our family now is one where each person has the right to make their own
choices about what they do, what they eat and when they sleep. While some of
these food choices are similar,(we all love Blue Bell Cookie dough ice cream and
have been known to eat it in mass quantities) we each are very unique in our
eating habits.
I'm very sensitive to sugar and feel best if I eat protein with several
small meals a day, my daughter is a vegetarian and loves donuts for breakfast,
my husband sometimes eats pudding with protein powder for breakfast, and my
son goes through stages where he eats the same thing for days. This week it
has been pepperoni, mustard and pickle sandwiches. All in all, I think we all
eat a healthy balance of nutritious food during any given week.

I try and plan meals that has something each person will like although I
very seldom cook any kind of red meat. My husband orders steaks on his frequent
business trips so he doesn't mind that we eat mostly vegetarian or fish at
home. We all eat several small meals a day often at different times but
usually have some type of an evening meal together a few times a week. I often put
out plates of fruits, vegies, cheese and crackers. Sometimes Logan and I
will steam an huge bunch of asparagus and eat it for a snack.

My kids were older (10 and 13) when we started unschooling. However,
learning to make choices that were best for their bodies seemed to be easy for
them. Food is just not an issue at our house any more. Just as the kids sleep
when they are tired, they eat when they are hungry. Sometimes, they eat
candy. Mostly, they eat a bit of everything.

No one feels guilty about anything they eat except for me....and that's
because growing up someone else told me what I could and could not eat. Not
something I ever want my children to experience again.

Gail


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homebody_momma

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:

> -=-Stomach acid would probably melt coins too. :-) -=-
>
> It doesn't, or it would be no problem when people or zoo animals
swallowed
> "foreign objects."
>
> Sandra


***Actually, my then 5 3/4 year old swallowed a quarter last
August. We consulted four doctors and three out of the four said
the acids in his stomach would eat it down to nothing, or small
enough to pass. We decided to wait it out and see, instead of
the "minor" surgery that was suggest by the one other doctor. He
loves to tell people he ate a quarter :)

Sorry, not trying to be disagreeable, just thought I'd share
his "foreign object" story...

Jill in PA
ds7, dd5.5, ds2.5, ds4mos.

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In a message dated 3/25/2005 6:09:00 PM Mountain Standard Time,
jillianmarie@... writes:

We consulted four doctors and three out of the four said
the acids in his stomach would eat it down to nothing, or small
enough to pass.


------------

Four out of five doctors used to recommend Camel cigarettes, too. Said they
were soothing to the throat, and calming to the nerves. In my lifetime.

Didn't find a reference, but found this about gemstones:


-=-About the only gem that stomach acid could etch would be a pearl.
And it is a product of biology, not geology.-=-

_http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem03/chem03258.htm_
(http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem03/chem03258.htm)

Seems if stomach acid could dissolve a quarter it would kill us in our sleep
at a very early age and no one could reproduce. Seems puke would dissolve
the floor if stomach acid could dissolve metal.

I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of dissolving
something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.

Sandra





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-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@...


I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of
dissolving
something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I had a paper one dissolve after a few days in the stuff...does that
count?

<bwg>

~Kelly

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In a message dated 3/25/2005 8:25:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of
dissolving
something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.



Several years ago, Logan put nails in different containers with coke, orange
juice, milk and water. After a couple of weeks, the one in water was in the
worst shape...all covered in rust.

The one in coke held up just fine.

Gail


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nellebelle

I have proof that saliva is dangerous to baby teeth! My children's teeth keep falling out. When I look at the lost teeth I can see that the roots are completely dissolved. It is very alarming. Heed my warning! Don't allow your children to salivate!

Mary Ellen <G>


>>>>>>>>>I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of dissolving
something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.

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In a message dated 3/25/2005 7:29:21 PM Central Standard Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:

I had a paper one dissolve after a few days in the stuff...does that
count?




~~~

And if you leave a McDonald's cup full of Coke in the cupholder of your car
for too long, the bottom of the cup will dissolve and fill up your cup holder
and spill over. Found out the hard way.

Karen



www.badchair.net


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Robin Clevenger

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of
dissolving
> something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.
>
> Sandra

I'm pretty sure the MythBusters tackled this one in one of their
earliest episodes. They did a whole series of Cola myths.

And for those of you who haven't seen Mythbusters, it's one of the
coolest unschooling-est shows on TV. These guys make everything from
scratch, go out and talk to real people, and use real science to
test all kinds of crazy myths out. My kids never want to miss it
(thank heavens for DVR!) For instance, here's the description of the
show they're premiering next week:

Episode 30: Son of a Gun
It's survived untried for nearly 150 years: The myth of the Civil
War soldier who was shot clean through his nether regions and the
nearby woman who became pregnant when hit by the traveling bullet.
Good luck, Jamie and Adam! Then the two test just how dangerous it
is to use the telephone or take a shower during a thunderstorm.
Finally, Scottie and Kari attempt to re-create the voyage of a
hapless pair of boating greenhorns who set out to sea without first
detaching their boat from their car trailer.
premiere: March 30, 2005


Blue Skies,
-Robin-

Joyce Fetteroll

On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Sears Family wrote:

> -no sweet treats before a meal, particularly breakfast. "healthier
> food first - ie, oatmeal, toast, eggs, fruit, "

When my daughter has reached for the candy early in the morning I ask
her if she'd like me to make her something. If she doesn't that would
be okay but so far she's always said yes. For her, since she can have
as much as she wants the only thing special about candy is that it's
easier than making a bowl of cereal. But if I offer to make the cereal
then that's more appealing to her for breakfast.

So, without a rule, with the freedom to eat candy for breakfast she
chooses "healthier food first" just because it's more appealing to her
for breakfast.

> -often limit amount of dessert/sweet treats eaten (ie - one bowl of
> ice cream)- sometimes because I'm triggered, sometimes because I'd
> like to make the box of ice cream last longer, since the budget is not
> allowing lots of leeway

What you're saying with this is that your wants are more important than
their wants. And since you're bigger and stronger you get to have your
way.

What if you really really wanted a bowl of ice cream and nothing felt
like it would satisfy that craving and your husband said, no you can't,
we need to make it last?

If there's a special event that's it being saved for they'll understand
-- if it isn't commonly limited. But what better use for ice cream
could there be than to have happy kids :-)

> -If one food is requested over and over in one day - will often
> suggest another food, and point out that they've already had 4 bowls
> of oatmeal - perhaps their body might like something else? This is
> likely along the lines of open chioces - after I've said that, if they
> still want oatmeal - I am happy to make it. If it were to be ice
> cream - that would be a different story.

When my husband had a week long business trip I had spaghetti every
night for dinner. Why should someone have to be an adult to have the
freedom to do that?

What if you had to live your life asking your husband's permission and
help for everything you wanted? Maybe try that for a week! Every time
you start to do something independently -- even decisions about what to
buy at the store, what to make for dinner -- imagine having to ask your
husband if it's okay, or for him to do it for you. Imagine if his
priorities were different and he'd often say no because he didn't like
the choices you made.

> -requests for candy are mostly met with a no if we're out - we provide
> them with allowance each week, and they are entitled to purchase
> whatever they want with it - candy included. However, I know they
> often ask if what they're buying "is okay" - I often say yes. Once I
> have truly graduated to the other side, they won't ask anymore. That
> would be great.

What's your favorite food? What if the only way you could get out into
the world and out to where your favorite food (or book or movie) was
was to go with him? And what if you were out with him and the thing you
really wanted was right there within reach and he said no?

If we as adults had to live our lives as kids, being dependent on
someone, asking permission for each thing we wanted, we'd go nuts!
(And, hey, it might happen! And it might be our kids that we're saying
"No, your needs and wants aren't what I want to do for you. You can
take what I think you need," who are taking care of us!) *Life* and
society so severely restrict kids' freedom to get what they want for
themselves. We can add to that and be additional controllers in their
lives. Or we can be their partners and recognize that they don't have
the freedoms that we do and compassionately help them get what they
want.

The less needy they are, the less they'll need. If they know that 75%
of their requests will be turned down, they have to ask for a lot more
to get a better chance of getting the things they want.

> -pop is definitely limited to parties/babysitters in our house, and
> the times my dh has one. He likes it, so there is often pop stored in
> the cold cellar for those occasions. Any requests by the kids to have
> pop in between is met with a no. All the time. Pop is a big trigger
> for me. I can't seem to get over that coins disintegrate in it, the
> total lack of nutrition in it, and the large amount of
> calories/artificial sweeteners. It will probably be the last thing
> I'll let go of.

And what you're doing by making pop for special occasions is making it
something special to be greatly desired. Is that what you want? I've
got 2 cases of Coke sitting in the closet for anyone to take. It's rare
when anyone other than me takes one.

By limiting it you're creating a desire for it.

Joyce

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From: Joyce Fetteroll <fetteroll@...>


What if you had to live your life asking your husband's permission and
help for everything you wanted? Maybe try that for a week! Every time
you start to do something independently -- even decisions about what to
buy at the store, what to make for dinner -- imagine having to ask your
husband if it's okay, or for him to do it for you. Imagine if his
priorities were different and he'd often say no because he didn't like
the choices you made.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


Ben aznd I were out to lunch a few months ago. Across from us sat a
woman and her very old mother----eighties, at least.

The daughter was telling her mom: "Eat your soup and sandwich FIRST,
Mama, THEN you can have your dessert. No, drink some tea first. Here,
use your napkin. Mama, sit DOWN! No dessert until you finish that
sandwich. Here---have another bite. Just one more. No more sugar in
your tea; you've had enough. Stop now. Here' I'll put it away. Do you
want dessert? Mama, stop looking around. Eat your lunch."

This went on through the entire meal. The daughter just kept after the
old woman. It was so sad. I said so to Ben.

Then Ben asked, "I wonder where she learned it?"

Shut me up.

~Kelly

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In a message dated 3/25/05 9:21:30 PM, tuckervill2@... writes:

<< And if you leave a McDonald's cup full of Coke in the cupholder of your
car
for too long, the bottom of the cup will dissolve and fill up your cup
holder
and spill over. Found out the hard way. >>

The paper's still in there, though, just too soggy to have held the crimp
that keeps the bottom to the sides. That will happen with water, too.

Sandra

bunsofaluminum

we love mythbusters around here. I think Jamie is hot! L It's a show
the whole family likes to watch, and one of the few programs that we
make time for.

There's a website that reminds me of mythbusters. Sort of like a blog
on speed or something. http://cockeyed.com The guy is always making
things and testing things. Placing items in public and seeing how
long before someone notices it's a fake. etc. His "How Much Is
Inside" is pretty humorous.

HeidiC


> I'm pretty sure the MythBusters tackled this one in one of their
> earliest episodes. They did a whole series of Cola myths.
>
> And for those of you who haven't seen Mythbusters, it's one of the
> coolest unschooling-est shows on TV. These guys make everything
from
> scratch, go out and talk to real people, and use real science to
> test all kinds of crazy myths out. My kids never want to miss it
> (thank heavens for DVR!) For instance, here's the description of
the
> show they're premiering next week:
>
> Episode 30: Son of a Gun
> It's survived untried for nearly 150 years: The myth of the Civil
> War soldier who was shot clean through his nether regions and the
> nearby woman who became pregnant when hit by the traveling bullet.
> Good luck, Jamie and Adam! Then the two test just how dangerous it
> is to use the telephone or take a shower during a thunderstorm.
> Finally, Scottie and Kari attempt to re-create the voyage of a
> hapless pair of boating greenhorns who set out to sea without first
> detaching their boat from their car trailer.
> premiere: March 30, 2005
>
>
> Blue Skies,
> -Robin-

sheila

> I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of
dissolving
> something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw

We tried to dissolve a baby tooth in coke. We let it in there for weeks, and eventually the coke evaporated. The tooth was still there, but was all rotted and black and icky. Not dissolved though.

"And for those of you who haven't seen Mythbusters, it's one of the
coolest unschooling-est shows on TV"

My husband watched that a few times, and I saw part of one episode. It is pretty cool!

Sheila

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Robin Clevenger

--- In [email protected], "bunsofaluminum"
<bunsofaluminum60@h...> wrote:
>
> we love mythbusters around here. I think Jamie is hot!

Oh no, Jamie's far too serious for me. I like Adam. I love the bit
he says in the show's intro "I reject your reality and substitute my
own" That crosses my mind often when people start talking about
school, schoolish issues, how things "have to be" a certain way,
etc. etc. Inside my head is going "I reject your reality and
substitute my own.", LOL.

> There's a website that reminds me of mythbusters. Sort of like a
blog
> on speed or something. http://cockeyed.com The guy is always
making
> things and testing things. Placing items in public and seeing how
> long before someone notices it's a fake. etc. His "How Much Is
> Inside" is pretty humorous.

Oh yeah, that's a great website, we've checked that out too! My son
just loves stuff like this. I think he'd love to be an intern on
Mythbusters. He's always saving stuff like old wrecked bicycles to
use as power generators and stuff like that.

Blue Skies,
-Robin-

bunsofaluminum

--- In [email protected], "Robin Clevenger"
<tri_mom@c...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "bunsofaluminum"
> <bunsofaluminum60@h...> wrote:
> >
> > we love mythbusters around here. I think Jamie is hot!
>
> Oh no, Jamie's far too serious for me.

see, that depth. That quiet observation and super intelligent
rumination. Along with a cute butt. THAT is what gets me. LOL

blessings, HeidiC

> Blue Skies,
> -Robin-

Amy and Cory Nelson

> I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of dissolving
> something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.

A couple months ago my 5 yo dd put a penny in a cup with Coke and we kept it
their for a few days. Nothing happened except for the penny getting a sticky
feel to it.

--
Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99) and Cole (9/03/02)
"What we must decide is perhaps how we are valuable rather than how valuable
we are." --Edgar Z. Friedenberg
http://thissideofsomewhere.com/

Dawn Powell

in fact that study has been done. myth busters on discovery channel did it
and you can also find others here

http://www.snopes.com/ you can enter coca cola or coke in the search there
and find all kinds of myths about coca cola some true, most false

Visit my webpage!
http://www.dtoygal.com
Dawn Powell
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy and Cory Nelson [mailto:acnelson@...]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Coin in Coke


> I'm still waiting for someone to perform the simple experiment of
dissolving
> something in coke. Nail, coin, baby tooth. Plastic straw.

A couple months ago my 5 yo dd put a penny in a cup with Coke and we kept it
their for a few days. Nothing happened except for the penny getting a sticky
feel to it.

--
Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99) and Cole (9/03/02)
"What we must decide is perhaps how we are valuable rather than how valuable
we are." --Edgar Z. Friedenberg
http://thissideofsomewhere.com/





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