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In a message dated 1/7/2005 10:36:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
mjcmbrwn@... writes:

Excuse me?! I don't see anwhere where your poor neglected babies had
any exposure to the passive pluperfect?!

But maybe they did - trouble is I wouldn't recognise it if it bit me
on the leg.



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I think mine gained immunity from breastfeeding, so even if they were
exposed...

Maybe it was a Latin verb form anyway, and not English.
I have an English degree, but not Latin. I like grammar but there are only
so many verb forms worth talking about, even for those who like grammar a
lot. And more people would like grammar if it weren't treated like cod liver
oil.

And Latin...
The last people in the mostly-Protestant English speaking world who needed
Latin were doctors and pharmacists who trained before WWII. Now unless one
wants to be a linguist or a Jesuit researcher or a Latin teacher, Latin is not
much more useful than knowing Klingon or the Tolkien languages.

Those kinds of things can be wonderfully fascinating, but eight year old
boys shouldn't be made to do any of them.

Sandra


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Heather Woodward

Maybe we should encourage her(Susan) to write some madlibs with these grammar forms in them ;-) That's where I learned any names for the parts of speech - oh and German class. Strange that you didn't learn it in English - maybe that's what's wrong with education today! Just kidding....
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In a message dated 1/7/2005 10:36:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
mjcmbrwn@... writes:

Excuse me?! I don't see anwhere where your poor neglected babies had
any exposure to the passive pluperfect?!

But maybe they did - trouble is I wouldn't recognise it if it bit me
on the leg.



==================

I think mine gained immunity from breastfeeding, so even if they were
exposed...

Maybe it was a Latin verb form anyway, and not English.
I have an English degree, but not Latin. I like grammar but there are only
so many verb forms worth talking about, even for those who like grammar a
lot. And more people would like grammar if it weren't treated like cod liver
oil.

And Latin...
The last people in the mostly-Protestant English speaking world who needed
Latin were doctors and pharmacists who trained before WWII. Now unless one
wants to be a linguist or a Jesuit researcher or a Latin teacher, Latin is not
much more useful than knowing Klingon or the Tolkien languages.

Those kinds of things can be wonderfully fascinating, but eight year old
boys shouldn't be made to do any of them.

Sandra


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In a message dated 1/7/2005 10:48:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
bacwoodz@... writes:

Maybe we should encourage her(Susan) to write some madlibs with these
grammar forms in them ;-) That's where I learned any names for the parts of speech
- oh and German class. Strange that you didn't learn it in English - maybe
that's what's wrong with education today! Just kidding....



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Oooh yeah!

Madlibs with gerunds and indefinite articles.

No. Really not.

Sandra


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nellebelle

That's funny. My kids like to play madlibs. Next time we play I'll slip in a passive pluperfect and see what they come up with.

Reminds me of Pippi Longstocking and plutiplication.

Mary Ellen
----- Original Message -----Maybe we should encourage her(Susan) to write some madlibs with these grammar forms in them ;-) That's where I learned any names for the parts of speech - oh and German class. Strange that you didn't learn it in English - maybe that's what's wrong with education today! Just kidding....

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mamaaj2000

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/7/2005 10:36:26 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> mjcmbrwn@i... writes:
>
> Excuse me?! I don't see anwhere where your poor neglected babies
had
> any exposure to the passive pluperfect?!

> Maybe it was a Latin verb form anyway, and not English.

More than you ever wanted to know:

http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~struck/classes/latin309/syntax/pluperfect.ht
ml

The basic idea: "The pluperfect tense in Latin is employed when the
speaker wishes to express any action *already completed* at some
point in the past."

Passive pluperfect is using a passive verb in this tense..."it had
been brought back" as opposed to active "I had brought it back"

Okay, strewing this might just be evil and manipulative...

--aj, who *chose* to take Latin