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Hi,

Riley wants to know about stories where the "bad guy" wins. I know for him he is working something out here about himself. That part which is destructive,"evil", unacceptable in our society. Any wisdom?

I have enjoyed all the opinions about strewing.

One of my favorite methods of strewing stuff is to clean out a spot. I have dumped entire boxes out to organize and everything is touched again in a different way.

My kids naturally share things I would like as I share with them things I think they like. Riley was being read to at a friend's house the book Bud, Not Buddy. He told me we needed to get it. I brought it up the other day with him that we needed to remember that book to get and read and he said he didn't care for the story but he knew I would like it because it was about orphans and set in the past. My guy will be 8 next Tuesday and he is aware of me as I am him and unschooling had been the most wonderful experience with children and I have years more of this.

Mary

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Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani

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From: mfhickman@...

Hi,

Riley wants to know about stories where the "bad guy" wins. I know for him he is working something out here about himself. That part which is destructive,"evil", unacceptable in our society. Any wisdom?
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I found a list at Amazon. I've not seen all the movies, but the ones I have are way too disturbing for a child of 8 to see. Most of the time when the bad guy wins, it's because society doesn't know he's bad, or he does his bad guy stuff covertly. I don't know if that's something you want to tell a child either.

Star Wars Episode I was on the list. I don't remember how that ends, but you might want to check that one out.

Here's the list:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/2RC23BYKESB7O/102-6586904-8169709

It might spark some ideas for you.

Nichole







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The Stinky Cheese Man
has an alternate version of the Three Little Pigs.

Fun book! I need to pull it out and put it in the bathroom, maybe. Marty used to love it and he's probably not thought about it for years. Holly might not remember it. Too many books...

Sandra

AlysonRR

There's another funny book related to the Three Little Pigs, but from
the Wolf's perspective. Amusing:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140954007/qid=1104964109/
sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-5625889-9763303?v=glance
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140954007/qid=1104964109
/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-5625889-9763303?v=glance&s=books&n=5
07846> &s=books&n=507846

The first book my husband brought into the house after finding out we
were expecting was "The Stinky Cheese Man" :-) Happily, the children
appreciate it, too.

Alyson


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hhas an alternate version of the Three Little Pigs.=-=




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Angela S

What about "A Series of Unfortunate Events?" We love those books. They
have a dark humor and the good guys get out of one scrape only to get into
another.



Angela

game-enthusiast@...



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Riley wants to know about stories where the "bad guy" wins. I know for him
he is working something out here about himself. That part which is
destructive,"evil", unacceptable in our society. Any wisdom?



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simpson.fam

Some of my ds6's favorite comic book heroes deal with the not-so-perfect good guy vs. the not-so-purely-evil bad guy. Not sure if that's exactly what you were looking for, but your post reminded me of the conversations these characters/stories have sparked for us about "good guys," "bad guys," and all.

The Incredible Hulk is the hero character but quite destructive. The movie may be a bit intense but there are cartoons, books, and comic books geared toward younger kids.

The two Spiderman movies explore ideas about the choice to be a "good guy" versus to be a "bad guy". The dilemnas and choices that the villain has to make parallell those of Peter Parker/Spiderman throughout the stories, obviously with one ending up the hero and the other the bad guy.

Not as familiar with X-men, but I think this is true for several of those characters, too -- choosing to do good things vs. harmful things with their powers/questions of what actually is the "good" thing to do versus what actually is the "harmful" choice -- and how that can depend on perspective.


Holly

http://home.insightbb.com/~simpson.fam
----- Original Message -----
From: mfhickman@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] the darkside and a strewing story


Hi,

Riley wants to know about stories where the "bad guy" wins. I know for him he is working something out here about himself. That part which is destructive,"evil", unacceptable in our society. Any wisdom?

I have enjoyed all the opinions about strewing.

One of my favorite methods of strewing stuff is to clean out a spot. I have dumped entire boxes out to organize and everything is touched again in a different way.

My kids naturally share things I would like as I share with them things I think they like. Riley was being read to at a friend's house the book Bud, Not Buddy. He told me we needed to get it. I brought it up the other day with him that we needed to remember that book to get and read and he said he didn't care for the story but he knew I would like it because it was about orphans and set in the past. My guy will be 8 next Tuesday and he is aware of me as I am him and unschooling had been the most wonderful experience with children and I have years more of this.

Mary

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queenjane555

--- In [email protected], mfhickman@c... wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Riley wants to know about stories where the "bad guy" wins. I know
>for him he is working something out here about himself. That part
>which is destructive,"evil", unacceptable in our society. Any
>wisdom?

We just finished the Pendragon Adventures series (next book comes
out this summer), and the really bad guy Saint Dane does win in some
of the books. And there are some situations where the main good guy,
Bobby, *thinks* he is doing the right thing, and it turns out it was
all part of evil Saint Dane's plan all along. (The series is about
time/space travellers called well...Travellers, who's mission it is
to save all the Territories before they are destroyed by Saint Dane.
The protagonist is a teenage boy who struggles with his destiny as a
Traveller and longs to return home.)We really enjoyed them, and they
are easy for me to read outloud.


Katherine