I would LOVE to have pictures of "bad" kids :-)
Joyce Fetteroll
"Bad" by conventional parenting definition, that is! :-)
I keep stumbling across pictures of mothers gazing down in awe at
their sleeping infants with the caption, "I will love you no matter
what."
Yeah. Right. There's a real test: loving a sleeping infant. (Can you
feel the sarcasm?)
And it struck me what really illustrates love, what gets to the core
of unschooling is when we're up to the challenge of still being there
for kids when they push us out of our comfort zone.
I've created a blog called:
I Will Always Be There For You
OR The Radical Unschooling Philosophy Illustrated <-- That's the
subtitle. Not an indication I can't make up my mind ;-)
http://unschoolingphilosophyillustrated.blogspot.com/
I've added the first post as an example :-)
But I need your photos!
Examples like (but not limited to):
* Kids who've done something that conventional parents would get mad
about.
--> Like emptying a cupboard into the hall. Like pulling up "weeds"
that really weren't weeds. Like extending the driveway chalk painting
onto the car and the house and the cat ...
* Kids you've helped do something that conventional parents wouldn't
allow.
--> Like messy painting. Like going up the slide instead of down. Like
marker tattoos on any bare skin showing (one of my daughter's
favorites!) :-)
* Doing things with kids that most parents don't have time for.
--> Like playing video games together. Like going to anime conventions
together. ;-)
ALSO include:
* Caption you want under the picture.
* Any credit for the picture.
* A brief bit about what unschooling has meant to your relationship or
anything else that might help people understand why what's happening
in the photo is valuable to understand.
* I may add a bit of unschooling philosophy to it. (And I may crop the
photos a bit to make them fit the blog format unless you let me know
it's not okay.)
I'd love love to have photos to help illustrate this :-) You can find
some, send them to:
jfetteroll@...
At some point I'll start a Facebook group for it. The kind that sends
you alerts and emails that there's been a new post. (I am a noob at FB
so if anyone can offer tips, I'd sure appreciate it!
I'm about to start a job (one that like pays you cash for doing
stuff!) working in the bakery at the grocery store, so like I really
need a new project! ;-) But this one won't let me go and keeps nagging
me to start it. I can't promise the pictures will go up fast! But I
will do my best to get them up there since I think it could be quite
lovely and useful for explaining unschooling. :-)
Joyce
I keep stumbling across pictures of mothers gazing down in awe at
their sleeping infants with the caption, "I will love you no matter
what."
Yeah. Right. There's a real test: loving a sleeping infant. (Can you
feel the sarcasm?)
And it struck me what really illustrates love, what gets to the core
of unschooling is when we're up to the challenge of still being there
for kids when they push us out of our comfort zone.
I've created a blog called:
I Will Always Be There For You
OR The Radical Unschooling Philosophy Illustrated <-- That's the
subtitle. Not an indication I can't make up my mind ;-)
http://unschoolingphilosophyillustrated.blogspot.com/
I've added the first post as an example :-)
But I need your photos!
Examples like (but not limited to):
* Kids who've done something that conventional parents would get mad
about.
--> Like emptying a cupboard into the hall. Like pulling up "weeds"
that really weren't weeds. Like extending the driveway chalk painting
onto the car and the house and the cat ...
* Kids you've helped do something that conventional parents wouldn't
allow.
--> Like messy painting. Like going up the slide instead of down. Like
marker tattoos on any bare skin showing (one of my daughter's
favorites!) :-)
* Doing things with kids that most parents don't have time for.
--> Like playing video games together. Like going to anime conventions
together. ;-)
ALSO include:
* Caption you want under the picture.
* Any credit for the picture.
* A brief bit about what unschooling has meant to your relationship or
anything else that might help people understand why what's happening
in the photo is valuable to understand.
* I may add a bit of unschooling philosophy to it. (And I may crop the
photos a bit to make them fit the blog format unless you let me know
it's not okay.)
I'd love love to have photos to help illustrate this :-) You can find
some, send them to:
jfetteroll@...
At some point I'll start a Facebook group for it. The kind that sends
you alerts and emails that there's been a new post. (I am a noob at FB
so if anyone can offer tips, I'd sure appreciate it!
I'm about to start a job (one that like pays you cash for doing
stuff!) working in the bakery at the grocery store, so like I really
need a new project! ;-) But this one won't let me go and keeps nagging
me to start it. I can't promise the pictures will go up fast! But I
will do my best to get them up there since I think it could be quite
lovely and useful for explaining unschooling. :-)
Joyce
[email protected]
> And it struck me what really illustrates love, what gets to the core...
> of unschooling is when we're up to the challenge of still being there
> for kids when they push us out of our comfort zone.
> * Kids who've done something that conventional parents would get madNow I *AM* sorry I didn't take pictures of the ejaculating penii I found on
> about.
> --> Like emptying a cupboard into the hall. Like pulling up "weeds"
> that really weren't weeds. Like extending the driveway chalk painting
> onto the car and the house and the cat ...
> * Kids you've helped do something that conventional parents wouldn't
> allow.
> --> Like messy painting. Like going up the slide instead of down. Like
> marker tattoos on any bare skin showing (one of my daughter's
> favorites!) :-)
> * Doing things with kids that most parents don't have time for.
> --> Like playing video games together. Like going to anime conventions
> together. ;-)
> ALSO include:
> * Caption you want under the picture.
> * Any credit for the picture.
> * A brief bit about what unschooling has meant to your relationship or
> anything else that might help people understand why what's happening
> in the photo is valuable to understand.
the car a couple of days ago ;) I scraped them off with a plastic club
card; leaving their signatures and turning Penis Loves You into i Love
You :)
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Joyce Fetteroll
On Jun 16, 2011, at 11:51 AM, hahamommy@... wrote:
Joyce
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> Now I *AM* sorry I didn't take pictures of the ejaculating penii IOh, my goodness! That would have been awesome :-)
> found on
> the car a couple of days ago ;) I scraped them off with a plastic club
> card; leaving their signatures and turning Penis Loves You into i Love
> You :)
Joyce
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Sara Evans
Sounds Luke a fun project! I've got plenty of these sorts of pics.
Speaking of FB, it might be easiest if I add you as a friend and you grab
them all from my profile directly. Interested? :)
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Speaking of FB, it might be easiest if I add you as a friend and you grab
them all from my profile directly. Interested? :)
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[email protected]
Is it just me?
I am in the midst of scanning years of family photos and, even if I felt comfortable posting pictures of my kids anywhere, which I don't, mostly the kids are having fun and playing. Even by the standards of someone looking for something "bad," I'm not seeing it.
Maybe I am just looking through unschooling glasses. And we're pretty messy to start with. :)
Nance
I am in the midst of scanning years of family photos and, even if I felt comfortable posting pictures of my kids anywhere, which I don't, mostly the kids are having fun and playing. Even by the standards of someone looking for something "bad," I'm not seeing it.
Maybe I am just looking through unschooling glasses. And we're pretty messy to start with. :)
Nance
Joyce Fetteroll
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:15 AM, marbleface@... wrote:
daughters? How many teen daughters *want* their moms to dress up?
And yet I hardly think about it. It's just the two of us doing
something we both enjoy.
Kat enjoys going to rock concerts with her dad too. But rock concerts
are one of those rebel things for many teens to do and going with
their parents would kind of kill much of the point. ;-)
Kat on the internet for years. *And* we have a unique name. I know
Sandra's had way more pictures up even more prominently. Neither of us
have had problems.
The only bad story I've heard is someone put up a nekkid kid picture
and she later found it got way many more hits than her non-nekkid
pictures. :-P (So naked pictures will be safely cropped!) I think the
shear massive volume of kid pictures out there is what makes it safe.
Regular kid pictures are as exciting as pennies to creepy people.
I'm not trying to change your mind! Just throwing out a different take
since the "Oh, my god, why would you put pictures of your kids on the
internet? Are you crazy?" fear is much more commonly expressed.
Joyce
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> Is it just me?How many moms dress up to go to anime conventions with their
daughters? How many teen daughters *want* their moms to dress up?
And yet I hardly think about it. It's just the two of us doing
something we both enjoy.
Kat enjoys going to rock concerts with her dad too. But rock concerts
are one of those rebel things for many teens to do and going with
their parents would kind of kill much of the point. ;-)
> even if I felt comfortable posting pictures of my kids anywhere,Different comfort levels for different folks. There's been pictures of
> which I don't,
Kat on the internet for years. *And* we have a unique name. I know
Sandra's had way more pictures up even more prominently. Neither of us
have had problems.
The only bad story I've heard is someone put up a nekkid kid picture
and she later found it got way many more hits than her non-nekkid
pictures. :-P (So naked pictures will be safely cropped!) I think the
shear massive volume of kid pictures out there is what makes it safe.
Regular kid pictures are as exciting as pennies to creepy people.
I'm not trying to change your mind! Just throwing out a different take
since the "Oh, my god, why would you put pictures of your kids on the
internet? Are you crazy?" fear is much more commonly expressed.
Joyce
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Joyce Fetteroll
On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Sara Evans wrote:
If there are any in particular that inspire you to words, that would
be cool. :-) I think people's personal takes on what unschooling has
inspired for their family adds another dimension to what's being
illustrated.
(I'm the only Joyce Fetteroll on Facebook -- actually the world ;-) --
so I'm real easy to find.)
Joyce
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> Speaking of FB, it might be easiest if I add you as a friend and youI won't turn down the offer of pictures! :-)
> grab
> them all from my profile directly. Interested? :)
If there are any in particular that inspire you to words, that would
be cool. :-) I think people's personal takes on what unschooling has
inspired for their family adds another dimension to what's being
illustrated.
(I'm the only Joyce Fetteroll on Facebook -- actually the world ;-) --
so I'm real easy to find.)
Joyce
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April Morris
Darn. I wish I had taken a picture of my oldest daughter dying my 15 year
old son's hair purple. In my kitchen. With my approval.
It's just a day in the life here...not an 'event' to take a picture of. But
I forget that it's not a typical approved event.
And his hair is a great shade of purple, by the way. I'll try to remember to
take a picture next time.
~April
Mom to Kate-24, Lisa-22, Willis-21, Karl-20, & Ben-15.
*REACH Homeschool Grp, an inclusive group in Oakland County
http://a2zhomeschool.com/reachhomeschool/about/
* Michigan Unschoolers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michigan_unschoolers/
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
Gandalf the Grey
old son's hair purple. In my kitchen. With my approval.
It's just a day in the life here...not an 'event' to take a picture of. But
I forget that it's not a typical approved event.
And his hair is a great shade of purple, by the way. I'll try to remember to
take a picture next time.
~April
Mom to Kate-24, Lisa-22, Willis-21, Karl-20, & Ben-15.
*REACH Homeschool Grp, an inclusive group in Oakland County
http://a2zhomeschool.com/reachhomeschool/about/
* Michigan Unschoolers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michigan_unschoolers/
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
Gandalf the Grey
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Joyce Fetteroll <jfetteroll@...>wrote:
> **
>
>
> "Bad" by conventional parenting definition, that is! :-)
>
> I keep stumbling across pictures of mothers gazing down in awe at
> their sleeping infants with the caption, "I will love you no matter
> what."
>
> Yeah. Right. There's a real test: loving a sleeping infant. (Can you
> feel the sarcasm?)
>
> And it struck me what really illustrates love, what gets to the core
> of unschooling is when we're up to the challenge of still being there
> for kids when they push us out of our comfort zone.
>
> I've created a blog called:
>
> I Will Always Be There For You
> OR The Radical Unschooling Philosophy Illustrated <-- That's the
> subtitle. Not an indication I can't make up my mind ;-)
>
> http://unschoolingphilosophyillustrated.blogspot.com/
>
> I've added the first post as an example :-)
>
> But I need your photos!
>
> Examples like (but not limited to):
>
> * Kids who've done something that conventional parents would get mad
> about.
> --> Like emptying a cupboard into the hall. Like pulling up "weeds"
> that really weren't weeds. Like extending the driveway chalk painting
> onto the car and the house and the cat ...
>
> * Kids you've helped do something that conventional parents wouldn't
> allow.
> --> Like messy painting. Like going up the slide instead of down. Like
> marker tattoos on any bare skin showing (one of my daughter's
> favorites!) :-)
>
> * Doing things with kids that most parents don't have time for.
> --> Like playing video games together. Like going to anime conventions
> together. ;-)
>
> ALSO include:
>
> * Caption you want under the picture.
>
> * Any credit for the picture.
>
> * A brief bit about what unschooling has meant to your relationship or
> anything else that might help people understand why what's happening
> in the photo is valuable to understand.
>
> * I may add a bit of unschooling philosophy to it. (And I may crop the
> photos a bit to make them fit the blog format unless you let me know
> it's not okay.)
>
> I'd love love to have photos to help illustrate this :-) You can find
> some, send them to:
> jfetteroll@...
>
> At some point I'll start a Facebook group for it. The kind that sends
> you alerts and emails that there's been a new post. (I am a noob at FB
> so if anyone can offer tips, I'd sure appreciate it!
>
> I'm about to start a job (one that like pays you cash for doing
> stuff!) working in the bakery at the grocery store, so like I really
> need a new project! ;-) But this one won't let me go and keeps nagging
> me to start it. I can't promise the pictures will go up fast! But I
> will do my best to get them up there since I think it could be quite
> lovely and useful for explaining unschooling. :-)
>
> Joyce
>
>
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Joyce Fetteroll
On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:02 PM, April Morris wrote:
But if you'd like to wait for the action, that's fine too :-)
Joyce
> It's just a day in the life here...not an 'event' to take a pictureHeck, even the purple hair isn't a typical approved color in many homes!
> of. But
> I forget that it's not a typical approved event.
But if you'd like to wait for the action, that's fine too :-)
Joyce
JJ
Would you want pictures of a teen boy going about his everyday business in a kilt? With news stories and comments about how kilts are banned at some school because they are "disruptive" or will get the kid beaten up, and how daring we are to let him go out in public that way, riding the city us for example? Here are explanations and the pictures, more in comments. You are welcome to use anything you like!
Salute when you call my son a cross-dresser
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/4111/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/georgia-boy-says-hes-not-cross-dresser-just-creative/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/young-sons-kilts-arrived-today/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/young-sons-pipe-band-kilt-as-promised/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/unschooling-the-bagpipes-more-than-mere-music-lessons/
Salute when you call my son a cross-dresser
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/4111/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/georgia-boy-says-hes-not-cross-dresser-just-creative/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/young-sons-kilts-arrived-today/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/young-sons-pipe-band-kilt-as-promised/
http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/unschooling-the-bagpipes-more-than-mere-music-lessons/
--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll <jfetteroll@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:02 PM, April Morris wrote:
>
> > It's just a day in the life here...not an 'event' to take a picture
> > of. But
> > I forget that it's not a typical approved event.
>
> Heck, even the purple hair isn't a typical approved color in many homes!
>
> But if you'd like to wait for the action, that's fine too :-)
>
> Joyce
>
Dianne
Jeremy used to draw ink tattoos on himself all the time but I don't think I
ever took any pictures. Recently Jeremy and my toddler grandson Liam decided
I needed tattoos and drew ink pictures all over my arms. We had a lot of
fun with that but again no pictures. My DIL said she doesn't mind what I do
with Liam at my house but there may be problems if he starts "bringing bad
habits home." So we will see what happens with that.
--
Dianne
What we see depends mainly on what we look for. - John Lubbock
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ever took any pictures. Recently Jeremy and my toddler grandson Liam decided
I needed tattoos and drew ink pictures all over my arms. We had a lot of
fun with that but again no pictures. My DIL said she doesn't mind what I do
with Liam at my house but there may be problems if he starts "bringing bad
habits home." So we will see what happens with that.
--
Dianne
What we see depends mainly on what we look for. - John Lubbock
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The Dow Family
My daughter wears a tail. We are members of a Viking era re-enactment group and for whatever reaseon they all like to wear tails, even though it is not historically accurate. So on regular, non-viking days, my 13 year old still likes to wear her tail. It's about 12-14 inches long and is grey, black and white. It has a small chain on the top and she uses a large safety pin to attach it at her waist and then pulls her shirt down so people can't see the pin. She wears most every day and everywhere she goes. Her dad and I have never had a problem with it and we have never given it a second thought. Other kids see it and LOVE it. Other parents, not so much. We get a lot of questions about it generally followed by commetns like "well you are brave parents", which just cracks me up. In my view point she is a kid being a kid.
Abby
Abby
Joyce Fetteroll
On Jun 18, 2011, at 10:34 AM, The Dow Family wrote:
have one of her :-)
It could go well with JJ's son's kilt pictures :-)
Joyce
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> My daughter wears a tail.If you're comfortable with a picture going up on the blog, I'd love to
have one of her :-)
It could go well with JJ's son's kilt pictures :-)
Joyce
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Sara Evans
The great thing about pictures on FB is the feedback! I can see just how
crazy people think I am when I post something I think is relatively
innocent. By the way, you will see a person named AlandDiane "liking" all
my photos and always having something kind to say. That is, believe it or
not, my mother in law! Oh yes I hit the jack pot there. She loves how
freely I enjoy the girls.
I personally know many people who would not consider themselves unschoolers
that do not punish for "bad" things, but that's because I purposely surround
myself with people like this. They would say they use positive/gentle
discipline. One mom in particular always cracks me up with her posts -
"Youngest daughter emptied an entire bottle of laundry detergent on the
floor..... again!" This is nearly daily, and she never seems ruffled.
As for actually participating in things that seem unconventional as a
parent, some things you may see pics of are - encouraging the kids to draw
on eachother with markers.... how I got asked to leave the huge playscape at
Kalahari because apparently parents are allowed in only if they do not play
with reckless abandon. I drew whiskers on my youngest daughter every
morning for 2 months because that's what she wanted. I let her scrub the
dishes and pile them as high as she could, and of course when they came
crashing I wasn't fast enough to catch them. (oops) Oh and she slept in a
cardboard box every night for several weeks. You may see my husband dressed
like a dragon storming a castle..... We let them use real knives to cut
food at 3, well supervised, instead of insisting she don't touch them.....
today we all dressed up like Harry Potter wizards and I taught a Potions
class as well as a hoopdance class, at a festival.
I do try to keep my posts on FB upbeat, so I hope you can find something you
can use. My youngest has a penchant for pushing buttons, and I know I have
pictures that illustrate this but may not have posted them. I just posted
one with her painting the bathroom with soap. She was "cleaning" and I
encourage that even if her being helpful is actually creating a bigger mess,
but I know my own mother would have had a fit ;)
Sara.
crazy people think I am when I post something I think is relatively
innocent. By the way, you will see a person named AlandDiane "liking" all
my photos and always having something kind to say. That is, believe it or
not, my mother in law! Oh yes I hit the jack pot there. She loves how
freely I enjoy the girls.
I personally know many people who would not consider themselves unschoolers
that do not punish for "bad" things, but that's because I purposely surround
myself with people like this. They would say they use positive/gentle
discipline. One mom in particular always cracks me up with her posts -
"Youngest daughter emptied an entire bottle of laundry detergent on the
floor..... again!" This is nearly daily, and she never seems ruffled.
As for actually participating in things that seem unconventional as a
parent, some things you may see pics of are - encouraging the kids to draw
on eachother with markers.... how I got asked to leave the huge playscape at
Kalahari because apparently parents are allowed in only if they do not play
with reckless abandon. I drew whiskers on my youngest daughter every
morning for 2 months because that's what she wanted. I let her scrub the
dishes and pile them as high as she could, and of course when they came
crashing I wasn't fast enough to catch them. (oops) Oh and she slept in a
cardboard box every night for several weeks. You may see my husband dressed
like a dragon storming a castle..... We let them use real knives to cut
food at 3, well supervised, instead of insisting she don't touch them.....
today we all dressed up like Harry Potter wizards and I taught a Potions
class as well as a hoopdance class, at a festival.
I do try to keep my posts on FB upbeat, so I hope you can find something you
can use. My youngest has a penchant for pushing buttons, and I know I have
pictures that illustrate this but may not have posted them. I just posted
one with her painting the bathroom with soap. She was "cleaning" and I
encourage that even if her being helpful is actually creating a bigger mess,
but I know my own mother would have had a fit ;)
Sara.
plaidpanties666
Sara Evans <sunrayemomi@...> wrote:
There are parents who aren't so much "gentle" as foolish and negligent - and I would put a mother who set her toddler up to get into the cleaning products on a regular basis in that category. A child who is very inquisitive is going to get into more "interesting" situations and make more messes, sure, but that's not a reason to shrug aside the potential for accidental harm. Busy, inquisitive kids need More adult engagement, not to be left to their own devices.
One of the problems with "gentle discipline" is that it can still set parents up to think in terms of discipline and supervision rather than engagement and partnership.
Unschooling isn't some kind of "get out of rules free" card. It's great to help kids understand the reasons behind rules and look for ways to get their own needs and desires met in ways that are respectful of their surroundings. It's not so great to say "heck with the rules, who needs 'em?" I don't think that's what Sara was implying necessarily, but I think its important to be clear that unschooling isn't "whatever whenever".
---Meredith
> One mom in particular always cracks me up with her posts -*****************
> "Youngest daughter emptied an entire bottle of laundry detergent on the
> floor..... again!" This is nearly daily, and she never seems ruffled.
There are parents who aren't so much "gentle" as foolish and negligent - and I would put a mother who set her toddler up to get into the cleaning products on a regular basis in that category. A child who is very inquisitive is going to get into more "interesting" situations and make more messes, sure, but that's not a reason to shrug aside the potential for accidental harm. Busy, inquisitive kids need More adult engagement, not to be left to their own devices.
One of the problems with "gentle discipline" is that it can still set parents up to think in terms of discipline and supervision rather than engagement and partnership.
>> how I got asked to leave the huge playscape atReckless? Maybe you mean you were being silly or loud, but reckless implies you weren't being very thoughtful of others or the space. It's perfectly reasonable to ban recklessness!
> Kalahari because apparently parents are allowed in only if they do not play
> with reckless abandon
Unschooling isn't some kind of "get out of rules free" card. It's great to help kids understand the reasons behind rules and look for ways to get their own needs and desires met in ways that are respectful of their surroundings. It's not so great to say "heck with the rules, who needs 'em?" I don't think that's what Sara was implying necessarily, but I think its important to be clear that unschooling isn't "whatever whenever".
---Meredith
Sara Evans
I see the need to clarify any points for people reading (I always
appreciate this when it's done, it does help me understand unschooling).
But I admit it still leaves me feeling frustrated that I didn't find the
perfect words the first time. Let me tell you exactly what happened (while
making a mental note to be very careful with my words, as I know they are
being picked apart). I was giggling, following my 4 year old around as she
yelled happily "chase me!!" through the structure, saying "weeeeee!" maybe
louder than she was. Parents are allowed in to guide their children in
there. Apparently when the parent starts actually *enjoying* the playtime
as much as the child is, that must mean they aren't the parent. I was
approached by the employee there and in a sweet voice one would use with a
child (I do have a young face), she said "Oh sweetie, you're too old to play
in here". I looked at her and assured her I am just following my child.
She was a little abashed at that point.... I think she just honestly
assumed I was an older sibling because of the way I was ******playing
uninhibited yet not in a reckless or endangering way to anyone ******.
Using the phrase "reckless abandon" was my cheeky way of saying I let loose
like a child.
As for the friend and the laundry detergent, I agree with you on the
supervision point. I did not mean she gets into detergent or dangerous
things daily although I could see how that would be read as such. I meant
she is inventive and curious and even mischevious daily, and mom does not
punish this curiosity. She takes the responsibility onto herself if she
wasn't being watchful enough, as opposed to some parents who might punish
the child. Maybe it was an example that was too far off topic. Thanks for
the help in clarifying.
--
Sara
Momi to RayeAnne ('01) and Arwen Vada ('06)
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appreciate this when it's done, it does help me understand unschooling).
But I admit it still leaves me feeling frustrated that I didn't find the
perfect words the first time. Let me tell you exactly what happened (while
making a mental note to be very careful with my words, as I know they are
being picked apart). I was giggling, following my 4 year old around as she
yelled happily "chase me!!" through the structure, saying "weeeeee!" maybe
louder than she was. Parents are allowed in to guide their children in
there. Apparently when the parent starts actually *enjoying* the playtime
as much as the child is, that must mean they aren't the parent. I was
approached by the employee there and in a sweet voice one would use with a
child (I do have a young face), she said "Oh sweetie, you're too old to play
in here". I looked at her and assured her I am just following my child.
She was a little abashed at that point.... I think she just honestly
assumed I was an older sibling because of the way I was ******playing
uninhibited yet not in a reckless or endangering way to anyone ******.
Using the phrase "reckless abandon" was my cheeky way of saying I let loose
like a child.
As for the friend and the laundry detergent, I agree with you on the
supervision point. I did not mean she gets into detergent or dangerous
things daily although I could see how that would be read as such. I meant
she is inventive and curious and even mischevious daily, and mom does not
punish this curiosity. She takes the responsibility onto herself if she
wasn't being watchful enough, as opposed to some parents who might punish
the child. Maybe it was an example that was too far off topic. Thanks for
the help in clarifying.
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Sara
Momi to RayeAnne ('01) and Arwen Vada ('06)
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Good. I was wondering how she could afford all that laundry soap.
Things do happen -- even when you try to keep dangerous things out of reach, the darned kids grow or figure out the childproofing -- but it doesn't have to mean a meltdown from Mom every time.
Nance
Things do happen -- even when you try to keep dangerous things out of reach, the darned kids grow or figure out the childproofing -- but it doesn't have to mean a meltdown from Mom every time.
Nance
> As for the friend and the laundry detergent, I agree with you on the
> supervision point. I did not mean she gets into detergent or dangerous
> things daily although I could see how that would be read as such. I meant
> she is inventive and curious and even mischevious daily, and mom does not
> punish this curiosity. She takes the responsibility onto herself if she
> wasn't being watchful enough, as opposed to some parents who might punish
> the child. Maybe it was an example that was too far off topic. Thanks for
> the help in clarifying.
>
>
> --
> Sara
> Momi to RayeAnne ('01) and Arwen Vada ('06)
>
>