hi
Amanda Soman
Hi,
I'm new to the unschooling ideas. I have two kids, Kain-5 and
Jocelyn-1. I thought I was an unschooler, untill I joined an
unschooling group. I have found a whole new way to look at things. I
would like to try to unschool. I know my mom thinks the whole idea is
crazy, and I haven't mentioned it to my husband yet. I want to try to
use the unschooling ideas in everyday life. How does it work out with
kids not having chores or bed times. I think the only way I could
convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis, for
a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would you ask
for. Thank you,
Amanda
I'm new to the unschooling ideas. I have two kids, Kain-5 and
Jocelyn-1. I thought I was an unschooler, untill I joined an
unschooling group. I have found a whole new way to look at things. I
would like to try to unschool. I know my mom thinks the whole idea is
crazy, and I haven't mentioned it to my husband yet. I want to try to
use the unschooling ideas in everyday life. How does it work out with
kids not having chores or bed times. I think the only way I could
convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis, for
a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would you ask
for. Thank you,
Amanda
Angela S
Hi Amanda,
The trouble with doing a trial basis with this type of freedom, is that it
can take a long time to undo the harm you've done by being coercive in the
past. There isn't a certain amount of time that will work for everyone.
The less you have to undo, the less time it'll take for your children to
learn with joy and help out around the house with joy. The more you model
doing things out of love for them and with joy, the sooner they'll do the
same for you. Your kids are pretty young though. Instead of dropping it in
your dh's lap, you could start by giving him some small articles to read,
one at a time, and at the same time, start saying yes to your kids more and
finding ways to work things out in a non-coercive manner. And model
helping others with joy. It's really all about the joy. As far as
education goes, it often helps newer unschoolers to log the learning that
goes on day to day and share it with your dh. (I would do this without the
kids knowing, so they don't think more value is placed on educational
things.)
Angela ~ Maine
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The trouble with doing a trial basis with this type of freedom, is that it
can take a long time to undo the harm you've done by being coercive in the
past. There isn't a certain amount of time that will work for everyone.
The less you have to undo, the less time it'll take for your children to
learn with joy and help out around the house with joy. The more you model
doing things out of love for them and with joy, the sooner they'll do the
same for you. Your kids are pretty young though. Instead of dropping it in
your dh's lap, you could start by giving him some small articles to read,
one at a time, and at the same time, start saying yes to your kids more and
finding ways to work things out in a non-coercive manner. And model
helping others with joy. It's really all about the joy. As far as
education goes, it often helps newer unschoolers to log the learning that
goes on day to day and share it with your dh. (I would do this without the
kids knowing, so they don't think more value is placed on educational
things.)
Angela ~ Maine
game-enthusiast@...
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Robyn Coburn
<<<< I think the only way I could
convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis, for
a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would you ask
for.>>>>
Good plan! If one year "trial" sounds too long to your dh, what about saying
just the rest of this "school year", since for some reason many people who
are not fully cognizant of how Unschooling works still think that summer is
a vacation time free of any learning. This way you get pretty close to a
year anyway. I'd be willing to bet that by the time September rolls around
again, he would be a convert.
Do some reading about De-schooling at www.sandradodd.com/unschooling .
Really crucial concept. At that site there are also pages about gradually
moving into De-choring etc with the least upheaval.
Robyn L. Coburn
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convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis, for
a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would you ask
for.>>>>
Good plan! If one year "trial" sounds too long to your dh, what about saying
just the rest of this "school year", since for some reason many people who
are not fully cognizant of how Unschooling works still think that summer is
a vacation time free of any learning. This way you get pretty close to a
year anyway. I'd be willing to bet that by the time September rolls around
again, he would be a convert.
Do some reading about De-schooling at www.sandradodd.com/unschooling .
Really crucial concept. At that site there are also pages about gradually
moving into De-choring etc with the least upheaval.
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Syndi
> Hi amanda!I never did tell my husband what I was doing, its just come about
gradually. He stills wants the boys to go to bed at a certain time,
but I remind him that I don't tell HIM when to go to bed!
As a matter of fact I took it all very slow with dh, knowing he had
not been learning about unschooling like I had. And probably
wouldn't. When he questions something, I explain it. Maybe just ask
him to let you try it and not exactly set a time to stop?! I don't
think you could put a time limit on letting kids set their own
internal clocks! Keep reading on here, you'll learn about the chores
and such soon, seems to be one subject that comes up alot!
Glad your here
syndi
mamaaj2000
--- In [email protected], "Amanda Soman"
<amandasoman@y...> wrote:
I think the only way I could
anyway! We started letting go of controls about 6 months ago, but
didn't let go of everything all at once. First of all, it's hard to
suddenly let go completely. Second, it can be overwhelming for the
kids and a less than completely on-board dh. Letting go of controls
gradually can be a good thing.
I let go of asking for help cleaning up and it took a few months
before ds (4 y o) started to help.
I just let go of bedtime recently. There were practical problems and
most of the time ds didn't mind going to bed. A couple weeks ago, it
started to get upset about it, so now he goes to sleep on the couch
with me. He goes to sleep about an hour later than he used to, but
sleeps a little later, too. I really like having him snuggled next to
me while I watch a little tv at night. He falls asleep at almost the
exact same time every night and he's started to recognize when he's
getting sleepy. That's important to me because I'm pregnant and it's
getting harder to carry him up the stairs. I'll need him to go to
sleep in his bed in another couple months. We'll probably move the tv
in the kitchen to his room and buy a cheap dvd player so I can have
both kids upstairs to go to sleep without them making noise and
waking dh up--he goes to sleep earlier than both kids. Anyway, it
took a while for me to stop clenching and worrying and actually open
up my mind to look for ways to make it work out. I *can* carry Mikey
upstairs now, so it's okay for him to stay downstairs now.
Food is still an issue. We were in a really bad place with his eating-
-or not eating. He wouldn't eat just because we were asking. He
wouldn't try anything new. And so on. We haven't let go of controls
completely and so we're still having some battles. Both kids ate huge
amounts of candy for the month around Halloween and it bugged me.
Looking back now, I can see that sighing and saying "alright" when
they asked for candy is not the same as leaving the candy bowl where
they could reach it. Maybe today I'll finally get around to
reorganizing some shelves and put more food where they can reach it.
That really is different than saying yes to requests...They do eat
lots of fruit and I've learned that putting it out in the morning
leads to fewer candy requests in the afternoon! They have their dad's
sweet tooth, which is quite different than my tastes.
Anyway, just wanted to babble about our experiences in the last 6
months. How fast your children change depends on where you and they
are now, how much you really change--it can be hard to stop asking
for help cleaning up without getting annoyed--right away and how much
your dh is still saying things like "you need to clean up this mess
right now" and "no pie until you eat your dinner".
--aj
<amandasoman@y...> wrote:
I think the only way I could
> convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis,for
> a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would youask
> for. Thank you,Amanda, I know you already talked to your dh, but I wanted to answer
> Amanda
anyway! We started letting go of controls about 6 months ago, but
didn't let go of everything all at once. First of all, it's hard to
suddenly let go completely. Second, it can be overwhelming for the
kids and a less than completely on-board dh. Letting go of controls
gradually can be a good thing.
I let go of asking for help cleaning up and it took a few months
before ds (4 y o) started to help.
I just let go of bedtime recently. There were practical problems and
most of the time ds didn't mind going to bed. A couple weeks ago, it
started to get upset about it, so now he goes to sleep on the couch
with me. He goes to sleep about an hour later than he used to, but
sleeps a little later, too. I really like having him snuggled next to
me while I watch a little tv at night. He falls asleep at almost the
exact same time every night and he's started to recognize when he's
getting sleepy. That's important to me because I'm pregnant and it's
getting harder to carry him up the stairs. I'll need him to go to
sleep in his bed in another couple months. We'll probably move the tv
in the kitchen to his room and buy a cheap dvd player so I can have
both kids upstairs to go to sleep without them making noise and
waking dh up--he goes to sleep earlier than both kids. Anyway, it
took a while for me to stop clenching and worrying and actually open
up my mind to look for ways to make it work out. I *can* carry Mikey
upstairs now, so it's okay for him to stay downstairs now.
Food is still an issue. We were in a really bad place with his eating-
-or not eating. He wouldn't eat just because we were asking. He
wouldn't try anything new. And so on. We haven't let go of controls
completely and so we're still having some battles. Both kids ate huge
amounts of candy for the month around Halloween and it bugged me.
Looking back now, I can see that sighing and saying "alright" when
they asked for candy is not the same as leaving the candy bowl where
they could reach it. Maybe today I'll finally get around to
reorganizing some shelves and put more food where they can reach it.
That really is different than saying yes to requests...They do eat
lots of fruit and I've learned that putting it out in the morning
leads to fewer candy requests in the afternoon! They have their dad's
sweet tooth, which is quite different than my tastes.
Anyway, just wanted to babble about our experiences in the last 6
months. How fast your children change depends on where you and they
are now, how much you really change--it can be hard to stop asking
for help cleaning up without getting annoyed--right away and how much
your dh is still saying things like "you need to clean up this mess
right now" and "no pie until you eat your dinner".
--aj
Amanda Soman
I guess I'll try letting go a little at a time. I don't really have
that far to go, since I'm already pretty relaxed. I think bed time
will be the last thing to go. I really like having some quiet at the
end of the day. But I always let him play quietly in his room untill
he's ready to go to sleep. Thank you everyone for the advice. I'll
see how it goes.
Amanda
that far to go, since I'm already pretty relaxed. I think bed time
will be the last thing to go. I really like having some quiet at the
end of the day. But I always let him play quietly in his room untill
he's ready to go to sleep. Thank you everyone for the advice. I'll
see how it goes.
Amanda
>
> Amanda, I know you already talked to your dh, but I wanted to answer
> anyway! We started letting go of controls about 6 months ago, but
> didn't let go of everything all at once. First of all, it's hard to
> suddenly let go completely. Second, it can be overwhelming for the
> kids and a less than completely on-board dh. Letting go of controls
> gradually can be a good thing.
>
> I let go of asking for help cleaning up and it took a few months
> before ds (4 y o) started to help.
>
> I just let go of bedtime recently. There were practical problems and
> most of the time ds didn't mind going to bed. A couple weeks ago, it
> started to get upset about it, so now he goes to sleep on the couch
> with me. He goes to sleep about an hour later than he used to, but
> sleeps a little later, too. I really like having him snuggled next to
> me while I watch a little tv at night. He falls asleep at almost the
> exact same time every night and he's started to recognize when he's
> getting sleepy. That's important to me because I'm pregnant and it's
> getting harder to carry him up the stairs. I'll need him to go to
> sleep in his bed in another couple months. We'll probably move the tv
> in the kitchen to his room and buy a cheap dvd player so I can have
> both kids upstairs to go to sleep without them making noise and
> waking dh up--he goes to sleep earlier than both kids. Anyway, it
> took a while for me to stop clenching and worrying and actually open
> up my mind to look for ways to make it work out. I *can* carry Mikey
> upstairs now, so it's okay for him to stay downstairs now.
>
> Food is still an issue. We were in a really bad place with his eating-
> -or not eating. He wouldn't eat just because we were asking. He
> wouldn't try anything new. And so on. We haven't let go of controls
> completely and so we're still having some battles. Both kids ate huge
> amounts of candy for the month around Halloween and it bugged me.
> Looking back now, I can see that sighing and saying "alright" when
> they asked for candy is not the same as leaving the candy bowl where
> they could reach it. Maybe today I'll finally get around to
> reorganizing some shelves and put more food where they can reach it.
> That really is different than saying yes to requests...They do eat
> lots of fruit and I've learned that putting it out in the morning
> leads to fewer candy requests in the afternoon! They have their dad's
> sweet tooth, which is quite different than my tastes.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to babble about our experiences in the last 6
> months. How fast your children change depends on where you and they
> are now, how much you really change--it can be hard to stop asking
> for help cleaning up without getting annoyed--right away and how much
> your dh is still saying things like "you need to clean up this mess
> right now" and "no pie until you eat your dinner".
>
> --aj
Beth Fleming
Hi,
I just wanted to chime in, too! I and my husband are in the process of "letting go" as well....Had an interesting experience at Thanksgiving dinner with my family, who seem very into "eat this and you can have that". My brother was sitting at the table with me and my 5 and 8 yo were at the next table.....he said to my 5 yo son "eat 4 more bites of your turkey and you can have dessert!" I told my brother and his wife "John and I aren't really into that sort of thing....he knows when he is full." About ten minutes later, my brother announced, "I'm really full. I can't eat another bite!" and I noticed that his plate was still full...I said, "OK, but you have to have 4 more bites before you have dessert!" His wife and I had a good laugh and he got my point.....I hope he'll remember this when his new baby comes along in March.
Thanks to everyone for sharing...hearing your stories not only encourage me and make this all easier, but more fun, too!
Beth
mamaaj2000 <mamaaj2000@...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], "Amanda Soman"
<amandasoman@y...> wrote:
I think the only way I could
anyway! We started letting go of controls about 6 months ago, but
didn't let go of everything all at once. First of all, it's hard to
suddenly let go completely. Second, it can be overwhelming for the
kids and a less than completely on-board dh. Letting go of controls
gradually can be a good thing.
I let go of asking for help cleaning up and it took a few months
before ds (4 y o) started to help.
I just let go of bedtime recently. There were practical problems and
most of the time ds didn't mind going to bed. A couple weeks ago, it
started to get upset about it, so now he goes to sleep on the couch
with me. He goes to sleep about an hour later than he used to, but
sleeps a little later, too. I really like having him snuggled next to
me while I watch a little tv at night. He falls asleep at almost the
exact same time every night and he's started to recognize when he's
getting sleepy. That's important to me because I'm pregnant and it's
getting harder to carry him up the stairs. I'll need him to go to
sleep in his bed in another couple months. We'll probably move the tv
in the kitchen to his room and buy a cheap dvd player so I can have
both kids upstairs to go to sleep without them making noise and
waking dh up--he goes to sleep earlier than both kids. Anyway, it
took a while for me to stop clenching and worrying and actually open
up my mind to look for ways to make it work out. I *can* carry Mikey
upstairs now, so it's okay for him to stay downstairs now.
Food is still an issue. We were in a really bad place with his eating-
-or not eating. He wouldn't eat just because we were asking. He
wouldn't try anything new. And so on. We haven't let go of controls
completely and so we're still having some battles. Both kids ate huge
amounts of candy for the month around Halloween and it bugged me.
Looking back now, I can see that sighing and saying "alright" when
they asked for candy is not the same as leaving the candy bowl where
they could reach it. Maybe today I'll finally get around to
reorganizing some shelves and put more food where they can reach it.
That really is different than saying yes to requests...They do eat
lots of fruit and I've learned that putting it out in the morning
leads to fewer candy requests in the afternoon! They have their dad's
sweet tooth, which is quite different than my tastes.
Anyway, just wanted to babble about our experiences in the last 6
months. How fast your children change depends on where you and they
are now, how much you really change--it can be hard to stop asking
for help cleaning up without getting annoyed--right away and how much
your dh is still saying things like "you need to clean up this mess
right now" and "no pie until you eat your dinner".
--aj
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I just wanted to chime in, too! I and my husband are in the process of "letting go" as well....Had an interesting experience at Thanksgiving dinner with my family, who seem very into "eat this and you can have that". My brother was sitting at the table with me and my 5 and 8 yo were at the next table.....he said to my 5 yo son "eat 4 more bites of your turkey and you can have dessert!" I told my brother and his wife "John and I aren't really into that sort of thing....he knows when he is full." About ten minutes later, my brother announced, "I'm really full. I can't eat another bite!" and I noticed that his plate was still full...I said, "OK, but you have to have 4 more bites before you have dessert!" His wife and I had a good laugh and he got my point.....I hope he'll remember this when his new baby comes along in March.
Thanks to everyone for sharing...hearing your stories not only encourage me and make this all easier, but more fun, too!
Beth
mamaaj2000 <mamaaj2000@...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], "Amanda Soman"
<amandasoman@y...> wrote:
I think the only way I could
> convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis,for
> a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would youask
> for. Thank you,Amanda, I know you already talked to your dh, but I wanted to answer
> Amanda
anyway! We started letting go of controls about 6 months ago, but
didn't let go of everything all at once. First of all, it's hard to
suddenly let go completely. Second, it can be overwhelming for the
kids and a less than completely on-board dh. Letting go of controls
gradually can be a good thing.
I let go of asking for help cleaning up and it took a few months
before ds (4 y o) started to help.
I just let go of bedtime recently. There were practical problems and
most of the time ds didn't mind going to bed. A couple weeks ago, it
started to get upset about it, so now he goes to sleep on the couch
with me. He goes to sleep about an hour later than he used to, but
sleeps a little later, too. I really like having him snuggled next to
me while I watch a little tv at night. He falls asleep at almost the
exact same time every night and he's started to recognize when he's
getting sleepy. That's important to me because I'm pregnant and it's
getting harder to carry him up the stairs. I'll need him to go to
sleep in his bed in another couple months. We'll probably move the tv
in the kitchen to his room and buy a cheap dvd player so I can have
both kids upstairs to go to sleep without them making noise and
waking dh up--he goes to sleep earlier than both kids. Anyway, it
took a while for me to stop clenching and worrying and actually open
up my mind to look for ways to make it work out. I *can* carry Mikey
upstairs now, so it's okay for him to stay downstairs now.
Food is still an issue. We were in a really bad place with his eating-
-or not eating. He wouldn't eat just because we were asking. He
wouldn't try anything new. And so on. We haven't let go of controls
completely and so we're still having some battles. Both kids ate huge
amounts of candy for the month around Halloween and it bugged me.
Looking back now, I can see that sighing and saying "alright" when
they asked for candy is not the same as leaving the candy bowl where
they could reach it. Maybe today I'll finally get around to
reorganizing some shelves and put more food where they can reach it.
That really is different than saying yes to requests...They do eat
lots of fruit and I've learned that putting it out in the morning
leads to fewer candy requests in the afternoon! They have their dad's
sweet tooth, which is quite different than my tastes.
Anyway, just wanted to babble about our experiences in the last 6
months. How fast your children change depends on where you and they
are now, how much you really change--it can be hard to stop asking
for help cleaning up without getting annoyed--right away and how much
your dh is still saying things like "you need to clean up this mess
right now" and "no pie until you eat your dinner".
--aj
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In a message dated 11/26/2004 1:42:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Amanda Soman" <amandasoman@...> writes:
Seriously---if you're not committed to however long it takes, it's hard to get there.
Your kids are little----not even school-age yet. How about until at LEAST until the older one is compylsory for a full year?
~Kelly
> I think the only way I couldA lifetime?
>convince my huscband is if I said we would do it on a trial basis, for
>a certain amount of time and see how it works. How long would you ask
>for.<<<<<
Seriously---if you're not committed to however long it takes, it's hard to get there.
Your kids are little----not even school-age yet. How about until at LEAST until the older one is compylsory for a full year?
~Kelly
Tracy
Hi, my name is Tracy and I have two girls, ages 9 & 13, that I
unschool. We started out homeschooling 1 1/2 years ago and over the
past few weeks have been making the transition to unschooling. My
husband of 15 years is very supportive of me and the girls way of
learning. I would love to meet some of you and have the girls make
some new friends as well. We are going to the Life is Good Conference
next month in Oregon and would love to make some friends that will be
there too.
Tracy
unschool. We started out homeschooling 1 1/2 years ago and over the
past few weeks have been making the transition to unschooling. My
husband of 15 years is very supportive of me and the girls way of
learning. I would love to meet some of you and have the girls make
some new friends as well. We are going to the Life is Good Conference
next month in Oregon and would love to make some friends that will be
there too.
Tracy
Jody
Hi Tracy!
I'm Jody, mom to ds Riley (12), and we're also going to the LIFE is
Good Conference in April! Yay! We're VERY new to unschooling,
having struggled with *home*schooling for a while, but thankfully
discovered this new wonderful lifestyle called *un*schooling just a
few months ago. =)
We live in Gig Harbor, WA, and are driving down to the conference,
with plans to head over to the coast after the conference and play,
taking our time going home along the coast, hopefully seeing some
whales migrating at Depoe Bay, and we'll also be checking out the
Tillamook Cheese Factory.
I look very forward to meeting you and your girls at the
conference. Where do you live?
With joy,
Jody
--- In [email protected], "Tracy" <weeblossom1@...>
wrote:
I'm Jody, mom to ds Riley (12), and we're also going to the LIFE is
Good Conference in April! Yay! We're VERY new to unschooling,
having struggled with *home*schooling for a while, but thankfully
discovered this new wonderful lifestyle called *un*schooling just a
few months ago. =)
We live in Gig Harbor, WA, and are driving down to the conference,
with plans to head over to the coast after the conference and play,
taking our time going home along the coast, hopefully seeing some
whales migrating at Depoe Bay, and we'll also be checking out the
Tillamook Cheese Factory.
I look very forward to meeting you and your girls at the
conference. Where do you live?
With joy,
Jody
--- In [email protected], "Tracy" <weeblossom1@...>
wrote:
>the
> Hi, my name is Tracy and I have two girls, ages 9 & 13, that I
> unschool. We started out homeschooling 1 1/2 years ago and over
> past few weeks have been making the transition to unschooling. MyConference
> husband of 15 years is very supportive of me and the girls way of
> learning. I would love to meet some of you and have the girls make
> some new friends as well. We are going to the Life is Good
> next month in Oregon and would love to make some friends that willbe
> there too.
>
> Tracy
>
Krisula
--- In [email protected], "Tracy" <weeblossom1@...>
wrote:
Hi Tracy, I see your post kind of got lost in the middle of a couple of
big threads. Sorry it took me so long to respond. :-)
My family and I will be at LiGC in OR. We are really looking forward
to it. So... welcome to the list and be sure and introduce yourself
when I see you at the conference.
Krisula
wrote:
>=================================
> Hi, my name is Tracy and I have two girls, ages 9 & 13, that I
> unschool. We started out homeschooling 1 1/2 years ago and over the
> past few weeks have been making the transition to unschooling. My
> husband of 15 years is very supportive of me and the girls way of
> learning. I would love to meet some of you and have the girls make
> some new friends as well. We are going to the Life is Good Conference
> next month in Oregon and would love to make some friends that will be
> there too.
>
> Tracy
>
Hi Tracy, I see your post kind of got lost in the middle of a couple of
big threads. Sorry it took me so long to respond. :-)
My family and I will be at LiGC in OR. We are really looking forward
to it. So... welcome to the list and be sure and introduce yourself
when I see you at the conference.
Krisula
Rachel
Hi Tracy, I'm Rachel and I have two girls also 5 & 15. We are also
new to unschooling and are going to the Life is Good Conference. My
husband can't take the time off of work to go but my mom is coming
with dd's and I. It would be great to meet you. Maybe we can figure
out a meeting place?
Rachel
new to unschooling and are going to the Life is Good Conference. My
husband can't take the time off of work to go but my mom is coming
with dd's and I. It would be great to meet you. Maybe we can figure
out a meeting place?
Rachel
--- In [email protected], "Tracy" <weeblossom1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, my name is Tracy and I have two girls, ages 9 & 13, that I
> unschool. We started out homeschooling 1 1/2 years ago and over the
> past few weeks have been making the transition to unschooling. My
> husband of 15 years is very supportive of me and the girls way of
> learning. I would love to meet some of you and have the girls make
> some new friends as well. We are going to the Life is Good Conference
> next month in Oregon and would love to make some friends that will be
> there too.
>
> Tracy
>
lei_seattle7
Hello to everyone,
I'm new to this group & unschooling. I have 2 girls, Forrest 11y/o &
Lei'Anie 6m/o. It will be our first yr since I pulled out my firstborn
from public school. I'm curious how/what you guys do with the required
annual assessment?
Lorelei
I'm new to this group & unschooling. I have 2 girls, Forrest 11y/o &
Lei'Anie 6m/o. It will be our first yr since I pulled out my firstborn
from public school. I'm curious how/what you guys do with the required
annual assessment?
Lorelei
Debra Rossing
Hi there
Not all of us have any required assessment - requirements vary by state.
It depends on what the assessment is and whether that's the ONLY option
you have. I'm guessing that you're in Washington state (since there's
Seattle in your screen name). One thing to note is that even though a
standardized test is the basic option, the results are RETAINED by you,
not submitted to anyone unless requested (which is rare I think). And,
that is not the only option - if you can find (through local
homeschoolers) a homeschooling/unschooling friendly person who is
certified to teach in WA to do a personal evaluation, that is acceptable
too. What many people do when tests are required is to check out what
their test options are (some places limit you to a short list of
acceptable tests, others don't) and take the least intrusive one. For
instance, I think the PASS test is one that allows you to do the test at
home yourselves (you 'administer' it to the kids). Then you tuck the
results in a drawer without opening the envelope. You maybe give each
child a die so they can choose a random answer for ones they aren't sure
of - tossing a die makes it obvious that it has nothing to do with what
they do or don't know. I think http://sandradodd.com/testing/tests can
give you some ideas and there are links to other things there as well.
One link it references is http://www.familylearning.org/ which is based
in WA which might be helpful for you.
Deb
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Not all of us have any required assessment - requirements vary by state.
It depends on what the assessment is and whether that's the ONLY option
you have. I'm guessing that you're in Washington state (since there's
Seattle in your screen name). One thing to note is that even though a
standardized test is the basic option, the results are RETAINED by you,
not submitted to anyone unless requested (which is rare I think). And,
that is not the only option - if you can find (through local
homeschoolers) a homeschooling/unschooling friendly person who is
certified to teach in WA to do a personal evaluation, that is acceptable
too. What many people do when tests are required is to check out what
their test options are (some places limit you to a short list of
acceptable tests, others don't) and take the least intrusive one. For
instance, I think the PASS test is one that allows you to do the test at
home yourselves (you 'administer' it to the kids). Then you tuck the
results in a drawer without opening the envelope. You maybe give each
child a die so they can choose a random answer for ones they aren't sure
of - tossing a die makes it obvious that it has nothing to do with what
they do or don't know. I think http://sandradodd.com/testing/tests can
give you some ideas and there are links to other things there as well.
One link it references is http://www.familylearning.org/ which is based
in WA which might be helpful for you.
Deb
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