Syndi

http://sandradodd.com/articles

I've read just about everything of her's I can get my hands on, but
for some reason there were a few of these I had not seen before.

heather mclean

Syndi,

Don't sign up with HSLDA. That's my 2 cents :) I
don't agree with them on most issues. (See the last
link down below). Here is some more info...

Mike Farris is the co-founder of HSLDA, Home School
Legal Defense Association. HSLDA was established in
1983 in response to an expected increase of
conservative Christians choosing to homeschool for
religious reasons. HSLDA has spawned offshoots,
including the National Center for Home Education
(NCHE) and Patrick Henry College.

HSLDA is a Christian organization.

You can find the HSLDA web site at http://hslda.org

And for a opposing viewpoint about HSLDA, you can
visit http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/.

sincerely,
heather m
tucson

Ren Allen

"syndi oohhh, one more thing, do you all think we should sign up for
hslda?"

My response is emphatically NO!
They are a profit organization, that is getting rich off of people's
fears. The lawyers they have wouldn't be able to represent you as
well as a local lawyer anyway, AND they won't represent unschoolers.

So no...don't waste your money on some fear of possible intervention
that probably will never happen. I had CPS show up wondering why my
kids weren't in school and we handled it all on our own without any
hassle. It's usually no big deal. If it IS a big deal and you need
help, there are better ways to get help.

I recommend using NHEN for information and to find local attorneys
that are homeschool friendly.

HSLDA has hurt homeschoolers more than they've helped in my
opinion...here's a link if you want to know more:

http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/national.htm

Ren

Syndi

I wasn't aware of just the little bit that I read on the site you
sent, thanks for the info, i'll be reading more tomorrow on it!
syndi

Syndi

Boy I"m so glad I asked THAT question!
They did a visit with us last year, dfs that is. Of course found
nothing wrong here and thought hs'ing our kids was the way to go.
But I also got a call from them closing the case and saying we would
be on record as having a call made by the school for neglect (the not
going to school part). And it would be there for 7 years! Really
burned me to learn this. I'm still trying to decide weather to
notify the school of our intent to hs. Its not mandatory in Mo. I
just really don't want them knocking on my door again!
thanks SO much for the info!
syndi

Ren Allen

"I said MIGHT want to call HSLDA. "

And I'm saying that isn't the best advice.
What if the person lives in a state like Alaska or Texas where
homeschoolers are not reuqired to report anything, not even an
intent to homeschool? What if they live in a very homeschool
friendly area, how would HSLDA be of use to them?
Even if they're in a rough area, the best advice you'll get is from
LOCAL unschoolers and organizations, not a national group.
I don't want HSLDA promoted as a helpful organization here, so I'll
question that advice anytime it's posted.
There are MUCH better ways to protect yourself, the foremost being
to educate yourself on the laws in your area.

Ren

[email protected]

In a message dated 12/1/2004 10:32:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
If you don't understand why people are
reacting to it the way they are, I suggest you do some reading on your
own to try to understand their response.
For a very good resource check out www.homeschoolingislegal.info
Elissa, who will soon get around to posting an intro.

Life's challenges are not supposed to paralyze you;
They're supposed to help you discover who you are.
~Bernice Johnson Reagon


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psychomom95

Hi,

Being new to this, I was wondering if anyone can tell me exactly what
this is, and if you have to be a member to use it?

Thanks,

Vanessa

Ren Allen

"I was wondering if anyone can tell me exactly what
this is, and if you have to be a member to use it?"

HSLDA is a far right Christian group that thinks they need to meddle
with legislation and be the voice for all unschoolers. I don't
recommend supporting them at all!! They've done more harm than good.

You can read more about it here:
http://www.homeedmag.com/HEM/185/sotch.html

Ren
learninginfreedom.com

Michelle/Melbrigða

On 8/25/06, psychomom95 <psychomom95@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Being new to this, I was wondering if anyone can tell me exactly what
> this is, and if you have to be a member to use it?
>

Homeschool Legal Defense Association. Wouldn't go near them. They
are not supportive of unschooling. While they say that they have
homeschoolers in their best interest, they have been known to defend
"homeschoolers" who are sheltering their children due to abuse issues.
(yuck) They are actually pro-more regulation of homeschoolers than
less-regulation (thus making it more difficult to homeschool than
easier - and ironically their reasoning for this is to discourage
people from abusing the homeschool laws so that they can cover abuse -
go figure!) They've also beein involved in some lobbying that has
nothing to do with homeschooling (that I can see) and is of a
political agenda that I do not support (conservative right wing). I
also question the outrageously high association fee when compared with
the work that they are doing directly for homeschoolers. IMO, if
there was some reason why the school board would take me to court it
would probably infringe on my civil liberties more than it would my
"homeschooling rights" so the ACLU (of which I am a card carrying
member) would be a better defense than HSLDA. (and you don't have to
be a card carrying member for them to defend you!)

--
Michelle
aka Melbrigða
http://eventualknitting.blogspot.com
[email protected] - Homeschooling for the Medieval Recreationist

anisadancer1218

You're all going to hate me and jump on my case. I don't agree with
99 percent of what HSLDA stands for. But they do to some extent
support parental freedom with homeschooling.

We were in a jam when our school district questioned my husband's
right to serve as a private tutor under the law even though he met
the qualifications as a certified teacher. They were taking the
position that the law required compensation and he couldn't be
compensated. Being able to use this option was important to us
because it provided a lot more freedom than the regular homeschool
provision.

In any case, HSLDA, acted as our attorney. They knew the issues
immediately. The cost of memebership was less than what we would have
paid for an attorney. The letter they wrote to the school district
challening their position was perfect. It got the job done. We were
and still are very pleased.

By the way, we did not renew our HSLDA membership the following year.

It's a crying shame that there not an unschooling or even regular non-
sectarian homeschool legal advocacy group. But that's the way it is.

Andrea

Ren Allen

"It's a crying shame that there not an unschooling or even regular non-
sectarian homeschool legal advocacy group."

Yes there is. You need to do your research and not let HSLDA fool you
into thinking they are the only ones interested in legal matters! They
promote this atmosphere of FEAR, so they can get memberships. They are
not using that membership money only to protect homeschoolers. They
have quite a far-reaching agenda and it's done a LOT to take away our
homeschooling freedoms. Supporting them is supporting loss of choice.

Anyone that needs legal advice or support would do well to check into
this group: http://www.nheld.com/

NHEN.org also has good information. I can't believe that if all it
took was a well-formed letter, you really needed to pay for a membership.

Ren
learninginfreedom.com

Paige Parr

And here's another site, for more info on HSLDA:

http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/

Paige in Virginia

Ren Allen <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
"I was wondering if anyone can tell me exactly what
this is, and if you have to be a member to use it?"

HSLDA is a far right Christian group that thinks they need to meddle
with legislation and be the voice for all unschoolers. I don't
recommend supporting them at all!! They've done more harm than good.

You can read more about it here:
http://www.homeedmag.com/HEM/185/sotch.html

Ren
learninginfreedom.com



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Here in California, the inclusive state-level homeschool organization
(HomeSchool Association of California) has volunteer attorneys, who
are also homeschooling parents, who would have done the same thing
for someone here, especially since all that HSLDA did was write a
clarifying letter. The cost of the membership ($100?) would be a
valuable donation to an all-volunteer organization.

And, there is, in fact, an inclusive national legal defense
organization - National Home Education Legal Defense
<http://www.nheld.com/>.

-pam


On Aug 25, 2006, at 6:15 PM, anisadancer1218 wrote:

> You're all going to hate me and jump on my case. I don't agree with
> 99 percent of what HSLDA stands for. But they do to some extent
> support parental freedom with homeschooling.
>
> We were in a jam when our school district questioned my husband's
> right to serve as a private tutor under the law even though he met
> the qualifications as a certified teacher. They were taking the
> position that the law required compensation and he couldn't be
> compensated. Being able to use this option was important to us
> because it provided a lot more freedom than the regular homeschool
> provision.
>
> In any case, HSLDA, acted as our attorney. They knew the issues
> immediately. The cost of memebership was less than what we would have
> paid for an attorney. The letter they wrote to the school district
> challening their position was perfect. It got the job done. We were
> and still are very pleased.
>
> By the way, we did not renew our HSLDA membership the following year.
>
> It's a crying shame that there not an unschooling or even regular non-
> sectarian homeschool legal advocacy group. But that's the way it is.

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