Kindergarten Aged Girl
atomickiss2001
do any of you here have kindergarten aged children? my daughter is 5
and she really doesn't want to do any work except art related stuff.
she can count by 5's and 10's but still does her numbers in the wrong
directions sometimes. She's quite stubborn in general and I don't even
make her sit down and do schoolwork per se. We go out and learn "on the
road". What do you all do as far as fall/winter activities? I tried to
go on enchanted learning but there is a fee to print out their
material. I found another website just as good. I'm also ordering a
book called "It's not the stork!" that teaches 4 and 5 year olds all
about the birds and bees...in a very kid friendly way. Also, how do you
all organize your portfolios?
and she really doesn't want to do any work except art related stuff.
she can count by 5's and 10's but still does her numbers in the wrong
directions sometimes. She's quite stubborn in general and I don't even
make her sit down and do schoolwork per se. We go out and learn "on the
road". What do you all do as far as fall/winter activities? I tried to
go on enchanted learning but there is a fee to print out their
material. I found another website just as good. I'm also ordering a
book called "It's not the stork!" that teaches 4 and 5 year olds all
about the birds and bees...in a very kid friendly way. Also, how do you
all organize your portfolios?
Kelly Weyd
My daughter is 6 and in 1st grade (well technically anyway, even though I don't believe in grades anymore). Anyway a lot of days all she wants to do is arts and crafts (we spent today making Christmas Tree Ornaments). But then other days she will read, read and write like crazy. To me, even if a person was going to traditionally school a 5 year old child, it should be a time of exploring and wonder. Let her play in the mud, blow bubbles, and bake cookies with Mom. The other stuff will come later. Years ago KIndy was about finger painting and singing songs. Todays Kindy seems to be about academic pressure. And that would be one of many reasons I homeschool, so that my kids can do things when they are ready.......and it's not forced on them. Now my girls are both computer obsessed. I signed them up for a computer curriculum (Math and Language Arts) called Time 4 Learning. They both do it on their own (no prompting from me) everyday, and they love it. Now Time 4
Learning even grades everything for the parent, you can go in and get reports. Now I just let the girls do the program because they love it, I do not give them grades or report cards so I never look at the grades or reports. But it's very interactive and engaging for little ones. Something to consider. I'm sure other's will have better portfolio advice than I do. I have a big plastic box for each child, and I just throw everything they do into the boxes. I also write down what we do each day.
Kelly
atomickiss2001 <jenpmobley@...> wrote:
do any of you here have kindergarten aged children? my daughter is 5
and she really doesn't want to do any work except art related stuff.
she can count by 5's and 10's but still does her numbers in the wrong
directions sometimes. She's quite stubborn in general and I don't even
make her sit down and do schoolwork per se. We go out and learn "on the
road". What do you all do as far as fall/winter activities? I tried to
go on enchanted learning but there is a fee to print out their
material. I found another website just as good. I'm also ordering a
book called "It's not the stork!" that teaches 4 and 5 year olds all
about the birds and bees...in a very kid friendly way. Also, how do you
all organize your portfolios?
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Learning even grades everything for the parent, you can go in and get reports. Now I just let the girls do the program because they love it, I do not give them grades or report cards so I never look at the grades or reports. But it's very interactive and engaging for little ones. Something to consider. I'm sure other's will have better portfolio advice than I do. I have a big plastic box for each child, and I just throw everything they do into the boxes. I also write down what we do each day.
Kelly
atomickiss2001 <jenpmobley@...> wrote:
do any of you here have kindergarten aged children? my daughter is 5
and she really doesn't want to do any work except art related stuff.
she can count by 5's and 10's but still does her numbers in the wrong
directions sometimes. She's quite stubborn in general and I don't even
make her sit down and do schoolwork per se. We go out and learn "on the
road". What do you all do as far as fall/winter activities? I tried to
go on enchanted learning but there is a fee to print out their
material. I found another website just as good. I'm also ordering a
book called "It's not the stork!" that teaches 4 and 5 year olds all
about the birds and bees...in a very kid friendly way. Also, how do you
all organize your portfolios?
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Chrissy L
She claims this was done tongue in cheek.... what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
http://suburbanturmoil.blogspot.com/2006/11/unschooling-updated.html
Chrissy
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http://suburbanturmoil.blogspot.com/2006/11/unschooling-updated.html
Chrissy
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Sylvia Toyama
what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
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What I found interesting was that she says she doesn't really like public school, but can't afford private school -- and she doesn't consider homeschooling to be an option. If she spent even half the time honestly researching home/unschooling options, she just might find a really good answer for her children. Apparently, she'd rather spend her time coming up with sarcastic articles to impress people with stories of how intractible her kids are and how incapable she is when it comes to really connecting with her kids.
Really, she's not worth the trouble to even read -- next week, some new 'atrocity' will be outed by a newer, more clever, wannabe trendmaker and the illustrious Lindsey be forgotten.
Sylvia
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What I found interesting was that she says she doesn't really like public school, but can't afford private school -- and she doesn't consider homeschooling to be an option. If she spent even half the time honestly researching home/unschooling options, she just might find a really good answer for her children. Apparently, she'd rather spend her time coming up with sarcastic articles to impress people with stories of how intractible her kids are and how incapable she is when it comes to really connecting with her kids.
Really, she's not worth the trouble to even read -- next week, some new 'atrocity' will be outed by a newer, more clever, wannabe trendmaker and the illustrious Lindsey be forgotten.
Sylvia
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Mindy Evans
I have a 5 yr old in Kindergarten (technically I guess).
I started out "formally" trying to do school until one day my son says "Oh, I just HATE school". I decided then and there this was not what I wanted him to get out of his time learning. I want him to LOVE learning and he always has until I put it in formal terms, i.e the three R's.
Now we go to museums, zoos, read all the time, cook together, do chores, paint pictures......that's about it.
I am in California so we are not required to keep records for kindergarten, although when we get to 1st grade I believe all that is required is attendance keeping. We still work with letters informally with a flash card game now and then, and he can add and subtract the low numbers and count into the hundreds....
He used to do city sports but has opted out of those for now. He plays on the computer, plays with toys, making up games.
I am fortunate that we have a homeschooling support group that he has made friends in and we do PE days and park days together.
It makes me a little nervous sometimes, wondering if I am doing the right thing. However, HE is the one who LOVES to do all the activities he is doing, and that is what is most important to me.
I had a conversation with a friend the other day who was telling me kids need to learn to achieve, to sink or swim, blah,blah,blah....... and who am I to tell her different at this stage?... I just have this feeling that when her kids is in 7th grade and hating school work, doing it to "get the grade", mine will be investigating, learning, excelling because he wants to, not because he HAS to..........hmmm, I guess time will tell!
Hopeful,
Mindy
God Bless You and yours
Mindy Evans
mindyevans@...
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I started out "formally" trying to do school until one day my son says "Oh, I just HATE school". I decided then and there this was not what I wanted him to get out of his time learning. I want him to LOVE learning and he always has until I put it in formal terms, i.e the three R's.
Now we go to museums, zoos, read all the time, cook together, do chores, paint pictures......that's about it.
I am in California so we are not required to keep records for kindergarten, although when we get to 1st grade I believe all that is required is attendance keeping. We still work with letters informally with a flash card game now and then, and he can add and subtract the low numbers and count into the hundreds....
He used to do city sports but has opted out of those for now. He plays on the computer, plays with toys, making up games.
I am fortunate that we have a homeschooling support group that he has made friends in and we do PE days and park days together.
It makes me a little nervous sometimes, wondering if I am doing the right thing. However, HE is the one who LOVES to do all the activities he is doing, and that is what is most important to me.
I had a conversation with a friend the other day who was telling me kids need to learn to achieve, to sink or swim, blah,blah,blah....... and who am I to tell her different at this stage?... I just have this feeling that when her kids is in 7th grade and hating school work, doing it to "get the grade", mine will be investigating, learning, excelling because he wants to, not because he HAS to..........hmmm, I guess time will tell!
Hopeful,
Mindy
God Bless You and yours
Mindy Evans
mindyevans@...
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Sandy
Wow, guess my hiatus from reading negative articles towards
unschoolers, topped with deschooling and reading positive articles has
paid off...I read that article and could only laugh and feel a bit
sorry for those trapped in the Borg Collective.
~Sandy
unschoolers, topped with deschooling and reading positive articles has
paid off...I read that article and could only laugh and feel a bit
sorry for those trapped in the Borg Collective.
~Sandy
Kelly Weyd
I always find it interesting when people don't like their child's public school, but don't consider homeschooling an option. So they just stay stuck in their thinking, bash homeschooling, bash unschooling, bash the public school and stay miserable..........worse yet their children are usually miserable too.
Kelly
Sylvia Toyama <sylgt04@...> wrote:
what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
*****
What I found interesting was that she says she doesn't really like public school, but can't afford private school -- and she doesn't consider homeschooling to be an option. If she spent even half the time honestly researching home/unschooling options, she just might find a really good answer for her children. Apparently, she'd rather spend her time coming up with sarcastic articles to impress people with stories of how intractible her kids are and how incapable she is when it comes to really connecting with her kids.
Really, she's not worth the trouble to even read -- next week, some new 'atrocity' will be outed by a newer, more clever, wannabe trendmaker and the illustrious Lindsey be forgotten.
Sylvia
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Kelly
Sylvia Toyama <sylgt04@...> wrote:
what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
*****
What I found interesting was that she says she doesn't really like public school, but can't afford private school -- and she doesn't consider homeschooling to be an option. If she spent even half the time honestly researching home/unschooling options, she just might find a really good answer for her children. Apparently, she'd rather spend her time coming up with sarcastic articles to impress people with stories of how intractible her kids are and how incapable she is when it comes to really connecting with her kids.
Really, she's not worth the trouble to even read -- next week, some new 'atrocity' will be outed by a newer, more clever, wannabe trendmaker and the illustrious Lindsey be forgotten.
Sylvia
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Actually, I thought the Nashville article was hilarious! And she has some really good links on her site.
Kathryn
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She claims this was done tongue in cheek.... what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
http://suburbanturmoil.blogspot.com/2006/11/unschooling-updated.html
Chrissy
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Kathryn
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From: Chrissy L <chrissymomto2@...>
She claims this was done tongue in cheek.... what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
http://suburbanturmoil.blogspot.com/2006/11/unschooling-updated.html
Chrissy
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plaidpanties666
--- In [email protected], "atomickiss2001"
<jenpmobley@...> wrote:
I think it would be valuble to consider what you think of as "work"
for a five yr old - or for an adult for that matter. Right now my
5yr old dd is engaged in some fairly important work, from her
perspective. To an outsider perspective she's "playing paper dolls"
but I'm used to watching her play and can see her "working" on
social skills, motor skills, ethical reasoning, problem solving,
Spanish, and counting. I don't usually break down what she's doing
like that in my mind (anymore) unless someone asks, though.
Even in the "adult" world, work isn't always a clear-cut thing with
measurable results. I have spent days working in my studio only to
disassemble the results - I could describe that as "not getting
anything done" or I could call it "experimenting". How's that
different from building something with legos and then knocking the
whole thing over?
self-motivated. Feel better?
I'm glad you aren't making her do schoolwork, but what do you mean
by "per se"? Are you making her do something else? Try observing
what this independent and self-motivated young person does
spontaneously and following her lead a bit more.
*Lately Mo's been really interested in looking things up on the
computer - image searches are her favorite. She'll give me a topic
and I'll type it in and we'll explore what comes up. Sometimes we
end up on some really interesting tangents.
*I like puzzles in the winter. Sometimes Mo helps out. Sometimes she
sits with me and does her own thing while I play.
Everything else is pretty much the same - we just look for ways to
shift the fun inside. I'm in TN so its not often too cold to go out,
but winter can be very rainy, so I look into my "rainy day fun"
books and boxes a lot more often.
Portfolios aren't an issue for me. I do keep a blog for the
grandparents. I put up a lot of pix of Mo and her projects and also
scan in some of her fancier drawings. That way when we visit they
have something to ask her other than "what are you doing in school?".
---Meredith (Mo 5, dss Ray 13)
<jenpmobley@...> wrote:
>5
> do any of you here have kindergarten aged children? my daughter is
> and she really doesn't want to do any work except art relatedstuff.
I think it would be valuble to consider what you think of as "work"
for a five yr old - or for an adult for that matter. Right now my
5yr old dd is engaged in some fairly important work, from her
perspective. To an outsider perspective she's "playing paper dolls"
but I'm used to watching her play and can see her "working" on
social skills, motor skills, ethical reasoning, problem solving,
Spanish, and counting. I don't usually break down what she's doing
like that in my mind (anymore) unless someone asks, though.
Even in the "adult" world, work isn't always a clear-cut thing with
measurable results. I have spent days working in my studio only to
disassemble the results - I could describe that as "not getting
anything done" or I could call it "experimenting". How's that
different from building something with legos and then knocking the
whole thing over?
> She's quite stubborn in general and I don't evenTry this - instead of thinking "stubborn" think: independent and
> make her sit down and do schoolwork per se.
self-motivated. Feel better?
I'm glad you aren't making her do schoolwork, but what do you mean
by "per se"? Are you making her do something else? Try observing
what this independent and self-motivated young person does
spontaneously and following her lead a bit more.
>What do you all do as far as fall/winter activities?*We tend to watch more movies.
*Lately Mo's been really interested in looking things up on the
computer - image searches are her favorite. She'll give me a topic
and I'll type it in and we'll explore what comes up. Sometimes we
end up on some really interesting tangents.
*I like puzzles in the winter. Sometimes Mo helps out. Sometimes she
sits with me and does her own thing while I play.
Everything else is pretty much the same - we just look for ways to
shift the fun inside. I'm in TN so its not often too cold to go out,
but winter can be very rainy, so I look into my "rainy day fun"
books and boxes a lot more often.
Portfolios aren't an issue for me. I do keep a blog for the
grandparents. I put up a lot of pix of Mo and her projects and also
scan in some of her fancier drawings. That way when we visit they
have something to ask her other than "what are you doing in school?".
---Meredith (Mo 5, dss Ray 13)
Michelle Leifur Reid
On 11/22/06, Chrissy L <chrissymomto2@...> wrote:
daughters (step as I recall so does she even have custody?) for ONE
day. Uh, excuse me but that's called vacation! Sheesh. I find that
most people who criticize unschooling have done no reading on the
subject. NONE. Those that have read something have done it from the
standpoint of "I'm going to read this so that I can find all the
faults in it." They don't look for positive, only negative. It's
suppositional research.
I'm not going to waste my time defending unschooling to the
unenlightened who don't want to be enlightened.
Michelle - happy Thanksgiving Y'all!
>I find it hard to take someone seriously who tried "unschooling" her
> She claims this was done tongue in cheek.... what bothers me is that there are quotes that she obviously went to the time to troll boards and gather and these are being used out of context to paint her picture.... reading the comments was interesting!
>
daughters (step as I recall so does she even have custody?) for ONE
day. Uh, excuse me but that's called vacation! Sheesh. I find that
most people who criticize unschooling have done no reading on the
subject. NONE. Those that have read something have done it from the
standpoint of "I'm going to read this so that I can find all the
faults in it." They don't look for positive, only negative. It's
suppositional research.
I'm not going to waste my time defending unschooling to the
unenlightened who don't want to be enlightened.
Michelle - happy Thanksgiving Y'all!