Alice Roddy

When people raise the question of socialization with me, I sometimes say that it is exactly for socialization that I prefer to educate at home. I consider having large numbers of people the same age together for long periods of time very unnatural. The normal human family looks like stair steps with children of various sizes and ages. My grandmother was the oldest of six children and 16 when her youngest sister was born and yet the two were dear friends all their lives. All the families around them were like that. Children played with older children from whom they learned what the next steps in life looked like. They played with, cared for, and taught by example those younger than they. That is normal socialization. When children spend all their time with others the same age, no one has the natural advantage of maturity to be a leader. Apparently leaders among same age children tend to emerge through bullying. Children have little opportunity to express their newly acquired
skills through helping the littler, less skilled ones.

When these peer dominated children become teens and begin to exert their independence from their parents, they frequently have no one to turn to more mature than they themselves. Because people who have graduated high school disappear from sight, life appears to end at 18. My grandmother's generation had close ties with some who went on to college, spending time with them during vacations and writing them at school, as well as seeing those who went to work in the community make the transition from school child to working adult. (My grandmother was born in 1872, almost 'Little House on the Prairie' Days.)

Spending virtually all your social time with people the same age is so limiting it hinders normal socialization. It is not preparation for the so-called real world where we do deal with people of different ages.

Do you find anything in this that may be of help to you in talking with skeptics?

Gramma Alice

Breastfeeding is the biological norm for infants. It is a relationship that provides food, connection, protection from illness to the baby and stress reducing hormones to the mother.





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Donna Brown

I agree with you, Alice. I have never been in a "real life" situation that placed me within a singular age group. As soon as I left the school building I was out of a controlled environment and presented with a wide range of ages.
What a fantasy world some of the institutional school systems are creating. They call us unrealistic!

Thankfully, Blissfully,Unconforming,
Donna


----- Original Message ----
From: Alice Roddy <amar0514412000@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:57:33 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] proper socialization

When people raise the question of socialization with me, I sometimes say that it is exactly for socialization that I prefer to educate at home. I consider having large numbers of people the same age together for long periods of time very unnatural. The normal human family looks like stair steps with children of various sizes and ages. My grandmother was the oldest of six children and 16 when her youngest sister was born and yet the two were dear friends all their lives. All the families around them were like that. Children played with older children from whom they learned what the next steps in life looked like. They played with, cared for, and taught by example those younger than they. That is normal socialization. When children spend all their time with others the same age, no one has the natural advantage of maturity to be a leader. Apparently leaders among same age children tend to emerge through bullying. Children have little opportunity to express their newly acquired
skills through helping the littler, less skilled ones.

When these peer dominated children become teens and begin to exert their independence from their parents, they frequently have no one to turn to more mature than they themselves. Because people who have graduated high school disappear from sight, life appears to end at 18. My grandmother' s generation had close ties with some who went on to college, spending time with them during vacations and writing them at school, as well as seeing those who went to work in the community make the transition from school child to working adult. (My grandmother was born in 1872, almost 'Little House on the Prairie' Days.)

Spending virtually all your social time with people the same age is so limiting it hinders normal socialization. It is not preparation for the so-called real world where we do deal with people of different ages.

Do you find anything in this that may be of help to you in talking with skeptics?

Gramma Alice

Breastfeeding is the biological norm for infants. It is a relationship that provides food, connection, protection from illness to the baby and stress reducing hormones to the mother.

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Kelly Weyd

Well said.........when we think about those "Little House on the Prairie Days" our nation had one one room school houses. Those schools consisted of children of all ages, not a group of 25, 8 year olds in one room.......which seems like such an artificial environment to me. My husband does not work for a company of 25, 41 year olds.

Also when my girls were in school the bullying and the teasing was out of control. I'd prefer that my girls socialization does not involve getting punched on the playground and getting called names in the bathroom.

Kelly

Alice Roddy <amar0514412000@...> wrote:
When people raise the question of socialization with me, I sometimes say that it is exactly for socialization that I prefer to educate at home. I consider having large numbers of people the same age together for long periods of time very unnatural. The normal human family looks like stair steps with children of various sizes and ages. My grandmother was the oldest of six children and 16 when her youngest sister was born and yet the two were dear friends all their lives. All the families around them were like that. Children played with older children from whom they learned what the next steps in life looked like. They played with, cared for, and taught by example those younger than they. That is normal socialization. When children spend all their time with others the same age, no one has the natural advantage of maturity to be a leader. Apparently leaders among same age children tend to emerge through bullying. Children have little opportunity to express their
newly acquired
skills through helping the littler, less skilled ones.

When these peer dominated children become teens and begin to exert their independence from their parents, they frequently have no one to turn to more mature than they themselves. Because people who have graduated high school disappear from sight, life appears to end at 18. My grandmother's generation had close ties with some who went on to college, spending time with them during vacations and writing them at school, as well as seeing those who went to work in the community make the transition from school child to working adult. (My grandmother was born in 1872, almost 'Little House on the Prairie' Days.)

Spending virtually all your social time with people the same age is so limiting it hinders normal socialization. It is not preparation for the so-called real world where we do deal with people of different ages.

Do you find anything in this that may be of help to you in talking with skeptics?

Gramma Alice

Breastfeeding is the biological norm for infants. It is a relationship that provides food, connection, protection from illness to the baby and stress reducing hormones to the mother.

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Dawn Bennink

I think this was extraordinarily well said, Alice.

Dawn

Heather

Alice,

Yes, that was lovely. I think I am going to print it to save!
Thanks so much!

Smiles,
Heather
--- In [email protected], Alice Roddy
<amar0514412000@...> wrote:
>
> When people raise the question of socialization with me, I
sometimes say that it is exactly for socialization that I prefer to
educate at home. I consider having large numbers of people the same
age together for long periods of time very unnatural. The normal
human family looks like stair steps with children of various sizes
and ages. My grandmother was the oldest of six children and 16 when
her youngest sister was born and yet the two were dear friends all
their lives. All the families around them were like that. Children
played with older children from whom they learned what the next
steps in life looked like. They played with, cared for, and taught
by example those younger than they. That is normal socialization.
When children spend all their time with others the same age, no one
has the natural advantage of maturity to be a leader. Apparently
leaders among same age children tend to emerge through bullying.
Children have little opportunity to express their newly acquired
> skills through helping the littler, less skilled ones.
>
> When these peer dominated children become teens and begin to exert
their independence from their parents, they frequently have no one
to turn to more mature than they themselves. Because people who have
graduated high school disappear from sight, life appears to end at
18. My grandmother's generation had close ties with some who went on
to college, spending time with them during vacations and writing
them at school, as well as seeing those who went to work in the
community make the transition from school child to working adult.
(My grandmother was born in 1872, almost 'Little House on the
Prairie' Days.)
>
> Spending virtually all your social time with people the same age
is so limiting it hinders normal socialization. It is not
preparation for the so-called real world where we do deal with
people of different ages.
>
> Do you find anything in this that may be of help to you in talking
with skeptics?
>
> Gramma Alice
>
> Breastfeeding is the biological norm for infants. It is a
relationship that provides food, connection, protection from illness
to the baby and stress reducing hormones to the mother.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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