John & Karen Buxcel

I consider myself a 'junk food' addict. :) Really, though, I love food,
any kind, sweet, salty, rich, bland, I love it all, and I eat it all, and
often! I'm of good health and in shape for my age and after birthing 3
babes.
I've been thinking about my eating habits lately, and remembering that I
was given lots of unhealthy food as a child, everything very processed and
Kool-Aid at Grandma's like it was water. (which is where we were at most of
the time)
As an adult, I now wish my parents, or rather, my mom (single mama) would
have helped me learn more about healthy food and made that kind of stuff
more available to me. I understand, however, she was too busy worrying
about basic survival to give that much thought.
So, now I eat my fair share of chocolate and chips and stuff, but I also eat
lots of very healthy food, whole foods, nothing processed, etc.
I still hear that damn little voice inside me sometimes when my child is
going for the chip bag yet again, but then I just make myself shut up and
let him be. It is really hard sometimes, though, when you get that almost
'irritated' feeling when they are making certain food choices that I don't
agree with. I KNOW this is my problem, not theirs, though. I still do have
some work to do here, but I just thought I'd share a bit of my experience
with food isues.

Melissa

This reminds me of my inlaws. Their mom only bought white bread the
entire time growing up. You know, super enriched, super bleached,
WHITE bread. She wouldnt buy any thing else for two reasons 1) cost
and 2) she only got homemade bread growing up in the 50's.
Now, in the family, only the youngest still chooses to eat white
bread. Now that they all have their own families, they buy this
organic, wheat, healthy no sugar stuff. They love it because it's
special to them.
Me on the other hand, my mom only bought the healthy bread growing
up. She loved it, the closer to raw grain the better, and on MY
'special days' i go and buy a loaf of white bread....heehee.

I think it all goes back to offering choices and educating.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose

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On May 26, 2006, at 9:32 AM, John & Karen Buxcel wrote:

> I consider myself a 'junk food' addict. :) Really, though, I love
> food,
> any kind, sweet, salty, rich, bland, I love it all, and I eat it
> all, and
> often! I'm of good health and in shape for my age and after
> birthing 3
> babes.
> I've been thinking about my eating habits lately, and remembering
> that I
> was given lots of unhealthy food as a child, everything very
> processed and
> Kool-Aid at Grandma's like it was water. (which is where we were
> at most of
> the time)
> As an adult, I now wish my parents, or rather, my mom (single mama)
> would
> have helped me learn more about healthy food and made that kind of
> stuff
> more available to me. I understand, however, she was too busy
> worrying
> about basic survival to give that much thought.
> So, now I eat my fair share of chocolate and chips and stuff, but I
> also eat
> lots of very healthy food, whole foods, nothing processed, etc.
> I still hear that damn little voice inside me sometimes when my
> child is
> going for the chip bag yet again, but then I just make myself shut
> up and
> let him be. It is really hard sometimes, though, when you get that
> almost
> 'irritated' feeling when they are making certain food choices that
> I don't
> agree with. I KNOW this is my problem, not theirs, though. I
> still do have
> some work to do here, but I just thought I'd share a bit of my
> experience
> with food isues.

Mother Earth (Tyra)

Melissa,

I remember my mothers saying to me as a child: Everything in moderation. Your words have helped me to feel even more comfortable with relaxing my requirements for my children. My mother offered it all and my brothers and I choose what we want to eat as adults based on our pallets, health and when we want to lose weight. I have always been more extreme than anyone in my family when it comes to eating healthy. I have kind of been irritated with my husband's choices of food because I judge them as not so healthy. However, I am seeing that the two of us bring balance to our children's lives. If it were not for my husband's taste in bread, for example, I don't think my son would like bread. I LOVE whole wheat bread and hubby doesn't. Once my son got a taste of honey wheat, he began to call that his bread. For a while I have hated giving it to him but now appreciate that this is just his taste. I have tried to shape his pallet to no avail and I am grateful that I have had the willingness to relax and let him be. Just like I figured out a way to eat that works for me, he is doing the same. The only difference at this point is I have the weight problem and he doesn't. Go figure! :) Who needs to school who on eating? LOL!

I LOVE THIS GROUP!

One Love
Tyra
----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Our food issues (was: Help--)


This reminds me of my inlaws. Their mom only bought white bread the
entire time growing up. You know, super enriched, super bleached,
WHITE bread. She wouldnt buy any thing else for two reasons 1) cost
and 2) she only got homemade bread growing up in the 50's.
Now, in the family, only the youngest still chooses to eat white
bread. Now that they all have their own families, they buy this
organic, wheat, healthy no sugar stuff. They love it because it's
special to them.
Me on the other hand, my mom only bought the healthy bread growing
up. She loved it, the closer to raw grain the better, and on MY
'special days' i go and buy a loaf of white bread....heehee.

I think it all goes back to offering choices and educating.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose

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D Smith

Funny how this is coming up now. My dh and I have been
trying different breads. Mostly because my husband
never really did. His mom only bought white bread. I'd
love to make bread, but I'm not up to that challenge
yet.
He is enjoying sheppard's. He really likes that one.
But our son refuses to even try anything but the
standard white. He's always been this way about food.
It's almost like he thinks we are going to poison him
or something. He refused baby food because we weren't
eatting it.
Funny I'm enjoying this organic sprouted bread. I do
find it a little dry and heavy, but I like the taste.
:) Ds looked at my sandwhich and told me it was yucky.
lol

Danie

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Lesa McMahon-Lowe

I'm so glad we're talking about food issues. I have my own issues.. over
the years I've chosen to abuse food just as an alcoholic would abuse alcohol
(the two are very related chemically... they are both a sugar addiction...
and have similar brain chemistry feeding them). I'm still working through
this and healing what needs to be healed so I can stop hurting myself with
food and the negative self-talk... I have come a long way... and as you know
everyday is a new learning experience.

I know that food addicts focus on food... all the time... whether it's what
they want to eat, what they know they should eat, or what they are eating...
and I've really gotten a ton better about this. But the talk here recently
really has helped me to tweak one more thing in my brain. That food is food
.. not good or bad... all of it has some value to it... and that I have the
choice and whatever I choose doesn't make me good or bad... the only value
that food has is the value we give to it (in that sense, anyway).

I have the choice...

Lesa
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Melissa

I'm a food addict as well. I've found a really great person who is my
AP, and we talk all the time. The first thing I learned was that I
was using food to deal with emotions. My whole life the person in
power is the one who had the good food. Aha! Where does that leave me
now? Unschooling is doing more than helping my kids, it's giving me
the chance to dig through my issues as well.

Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose

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On May 26, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Lesa McMahon-Lowe wrote:

> I'm so glad we're talking about food issues. I have my own
> issues.. over
> the years I've chosen to abuse food just as an alcoholic would
> abuse alcohol
> (the two are very related chemically... they are both a sugar
> addiction...
> and have similar brain chemistry feeding them). I'm still working
> through
> this and healing what needs to be healed so I can stop hurting
> myself with
> food and the negative self-talk... I have come a long way... and as
> you know
> everyday is a new learning experience.
>
> I know that food addicts focus on food... all the time... whether
> it's what
> they want to eat, what they know they should eat, or what they are
> eating...
> and I've really gotten a ton better about this. But the talk here
> recently
> really has helped me to tweak one more thing in my brain. That
> food is food
> .. not good or bad... all of it has some value to it... and that I
> have the
> choice and whatever I choose doesn't make me good or bad... the
> only value
> that food has is the value we give to it (in that sense, anyway).
>
> I have the choice...
>
> Lesa
> http://lifeacademy.homeschooljournal.net
> http://stoptherod.net/
> http://parentinginjesusfootsteps.org/
>
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Willa Ryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <autismhelp@...>
Unschooling is doing more than helping my kids, it's giving me
> the chance to dig through my issues as well.
>

Me too. Guilt and cravings with food issues got me into eating disorders in
my teenage years. A lot of it was about control and rigid expectations, for
me. Somehow, starving myself let have control in a stressful life and so
did eating junk, in a different way. I'm so glad my teenage daughter is
more healthy about this than I was. She chooses her food to promote her
health and energy level, and exercises for health and to look her best but
not to force herself into someone else's mold. She is way better than I am
about this STILL.

Willa

Pampered Chef Michelle

On 5/26/06, Melissa <autismhelp@...> wrote:
>
> This reminds me of my inlaws. Their mom only bought white bread the
> entire time growing up. You know, super enriched, super bleached,
> WHITE bread.


When we lived overseas and did all our shopping at the commisary, the only
choice was Wonderbread. I hated it. We weren't supposed to shop for food on
the economy, but my mom would go buy bread from the bakeries in town.
Somehow even thier "plain" white bread tasted better than Wonderbread. When
we moved back to the states my mom went back to buying whole wheat breads.
I still can't stand the taste of plain white bread. My brother OTOH who
never had to endure (see my prejudice LOL!) loves that he is a "grown up"
and can eat plain white bread. He'll buy an entire loaf and just sit in
front of the tv at night eating it. It's his cake.





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Melissa

It IS cake...look at how much sugar is in it! LOL! I'm just cranky
because Breanna can't have corn syrup, and there is only ONE brand
(and of that, one variety) of bread in the stores that does NOT have
corn syrup, Nature's Best whole wheat. We can also get french bread
from Albertsons, and Nature's best hot dog buns, but even the
specialty stores around here all have corn syrup in their bread. It's
craziness I tell you!


Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose

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On May 26, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Pampered Chef Michelle wrote:
> He'll buy an entire loaf and just sit in
> front of the tv at night eating it. It's his cake.
>

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>>> If it were not for my husband's taste in bread, for example, I don't
think my son would like bread. I LOVE whole wheat bread and hubby doesn't. Once
my son got a taste of honey wheat, he began to call that his bread. For a
while I have hated giving it to him but now appreciate that this is just his
taste. I have tried to shape his pallet to no avail and I am grateful that I have
had the willingness to relax and let him be.<<

***I was raised on white bread. When I got out on my own I decided that I was
going to take it upon myself to always try new things....I also decided that
I wanted to learn a bit more about my food choices and try to make healthier
ones. (though I know what's best, I don't always choose what's best for me
however! <g>) I switched to whole grain breads, 100% whole wheat, whole rye etc. I
love to bake bread and buy my flour and/or wheat berries from a local organic
farm and mill & I have now raised our kids on these breads also.

This talk about bread choices reminded me of a funny story about our kids and
bread when they were a bit younger and in school. One day they came home from
school and said "Mom, why do you always *make* us eat the whole wheat kind of
bread? Mostly all the other kids at school *get* white bread! Why do we *have
to* eat that whole wheat stuff?" I told them, well, you don't *have to* eat
whole wheat, if you want white, then you can have white. No big deal. I'll buy
some the next time we go to the store. I packed their lunches with white bread
and they came home saying, "Please don't pack us white bread again! It is
GROSS! It's doughy and sickening! Yuk!"
*IF* I had not given them the choice and said to them "Whole wheat is better
for you and I want you to eat whole instead of white, period." I KNOW they
would have rebelled and NOT wanted the whole grain bread ever. I'm glad I allowed
them that freedom of choice. If they chose to eat white now I would buy it
again...or maybe make it for all of us! We all like the homemade stuff wheat OR
white! :o)

~Nancy


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Tina Layne

Hi there,

I'm new to the list and have been lurking for a bit. I thought I'd take this opportunity to intriduce myself. I'm 35, married, have 3 kids- 2 girls 15 and 13, and boy 8. We live in Hawaii right now, but that will change as soon as dh retires from the USMC or they decide to move us, whichever comes first... we've got about 3 years till retirement (whew!!)

My family has multiple allergies, mostly additives to food but also a few actual foods. Synthetic colors and flavors, corn syrup, and dairy have all been eliminated in our house and we're still figuring out new problems.

At this point, I make 95% of what we eat including breads, snacks, cookies, and juices and lemonade from fresh fruit in the juicer. thankfully I like cooking, but it is a major drain on my time and energy. The kids enjoy cooking too, so that helps- in between Spongebob and commercials anyway. LOL

Tina


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Pampered Chef Michelle

On 5/26/06, Melissa <autismhelp@...> wrote:
>
> It IS cake...look at how much sugar is in it! LOL! I'm just cranky
> because Breanna can't have corn syrup, and there is only ONE brand
> (and of that, one variety) of bread in the stores that does NOT have
> corn syrup, Nature's Best whole wheat.


Do you have a health food store that carries bread? Most of them do not
have corn syrup. Also if you have an European bakery ask if they do.
Another option would be a kosher grocer or an import store. You could
always bake your own as well. Or move to Australia! I have a friend whos
daughter has a corn allergy (life threatening at that). They had family in
Australia they would visit and they would aways pack a small suitcase into a
larger suitcase on the way down and on the way home they would fill the
suitcase with colas, candies and other things that are sweetened with corn
here in the states. Corn syrup isn't used much in Australia. They
eventually moved there and part of it was for their dd's diet!





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Melissa

It's so funny you mention that, because dh and I were just talking
about it. We have a smallish store, and most of their natural breads
have organic corn syrup or organic corn starch. Also not allowed.
I have yet to find a kosher grocer in OKC. I've searched
around...there are some places online I keep meaning to order from.
My 'kickmyself' moment is the marshmellows, I finally found some corn
free ones online and I've never gone back when I had the money. Her
favorite soda is Dr Pepper, and you can buy that online sweetened
with cane sugar, but it's a killer on shipping. ;-)

We thought we had it made today...we went to Johnny Carrino's, they
said no corn in their bread. However, with 10 minutes of eating it
you could see the reaction. She started rocking and banging her head
within 20 minutes. she's been crazy ever since, and she'll probably
be sick to her stomach for the next few days.

We just found a bigger health food store about 40 minutes away, I'm
thinking this weekend I'll drive up there and just spend an hour or
two reading labels.

We have thought about moving to Australia actually...live in the
outback.
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose

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On May 26, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Pampered Chef Michelle wrote:
>
> Do you have a health food store that carries bread? Most of them
> do not
> have corn syrup. Also if you have an European bakery ask if they do.
> Another option would be a kosher grocer or an import store. You could
> always bake your own as well. Or move to Australia! I have a
> friend whos
> daughter has a corn allergy (life threatening at that). They had
> family in
> Australia they would visit and they would aways pack a small
> suitcase into a
> larger suitcase on the way down and on the way home they would fill
> the
> suitcase with colas, candies and other things that are sweetened
> with corn
> here in the states. Corn syrup isn't used much in Australia. They
> eventually moved there and part of it was for their dd's diet!
>
>
>
>
>
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Pampered Chef Michelle

On 5/26/06, Melissa <autismhelp@...> wrote:
>
> It's so funny you mention that, because dh and I were just talking
> about it. We have a smallish store, and most of their natural breads
> have organic corn syrup or organic corn starch.


Another thought. Instead of trying to find a bread with alternative
ingredients, what about finding an alternative to bread? I'm thinking
bagels, pita, tortillas (flour obviously), rice cakes, crackers. I just did
a quick look through my pantry and none of those things have any corn
products in them. I love toasted pitas or bagels made into sandwiches or
individual pizzas. Crackers can be used to scoop up salads (like chicken or
tuna salad). Rice cakes are great for munching with a yogurt or some cheese
and fruit.





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Melissa

We're working on that. Breanna's our one with autism, and not only
does she have sensory issues that make it difficult to handle
texture, there is the whole 'change' thing that she doesn't cope well
with. Texture, taste, and smell are all iffy propositions for her.
Some bagels are okay, and she ate a pita for the first time last
week. Tortillas are a big NO for her because they are too different,
and rice cakes are a no as well. She likes crackers with peanut
butter, so when we're out of bread she gets that.
I consider ourselves fortunate, she does eat a lot for a child with
autism. Part of that had to do with manipulation though, and I'm not
sure if i'm proud of that or not. Stuff like "You can have more
macaroni when you eat your peas." We didn't start off so hard, we
honestly started with just being able to put the food on her
plate...THEN she'd get more mac. Then it was lick the pea, then it
was put it in your mouth and spit it back out, followed by chew it
and spit it out, next was to actually swallow a pea. When she found
it wouldn't kill her, she was much more flexible about it ;-) I
wouldn't be able to tell you if it was something she would develop
naturally, but most kids with autism do not.
Melissa
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(2), and Avari Rose

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On May 27, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Pampered Chef Michelle wrote:

> On 5/26/06, Melissa <autismhelp@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's so funny you mention that, because dh and I were just talking
> > about it. We have a smallish store, and most of their natural breads
> > have organic corn syrup or organic corn starch.
>
>
> Another thought. Instead of trying to find a bread with alternative
> ingredients, what about finding an alternative to bread? I'm thinking
> bagels, pita, tortillas (flour obviously), rice cakes, crackers. I
> just did
> a quick look through my pantry and none of those things have any corn
> products in them. I love toasted pitas or bagels made into
> sandwiches or
> individual pizzas. Crackers can be used to scoop up salads (like
> chicken or
> tuna salad). Rice cakes are great for munching with a yogurt or
> some cheese
> and fruit.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michelle
> Independent Kitchen Consultant #413652
> The Pampered Chef
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