anti-schooling
avgjean
Hey all
I have some thoughts running around here, and would like some
feedback. I hope it doesn't sound too much like babble.
I live across the street from a school. Today, I was listening to
the happy sounds of kids playing, and then a loud bell went off, and
all the happy sounds drifted away. I don't know why, but that makes
me so nuts! I try to explain to my little ones why I don't want
them to go to school, but I have such a hard time doing it without
being negative about school, rather than telling them all the
positive reasons I have for keeping them here.
Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
kids march around in lines?" Some days it just seems harmless
enough (although it can make for awkward conversations with schooled
friends, ha ha). Today, though, I am wondering about it. I don't
know, maybe those horrible bells going off all day are making me
crazy!
Jean
I have some thoughts running around here, and would like some
feedback. I hope it doesn't sound too much like babble.
I live across the street from a school. Today, I was listening to
the happy sounds of kids playing, and then a loud bell went off, and
all the happy sounds drifted away. I don't know why, but that makes
me so nuts! I try to explain to my little ones why I don't want
them to go to school, but I have such a hard time doing it without
being negative about school, rather than telling them all the
positive reasons I have for keeping them here.
Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
kids march around in lines?" Some days it just seems harmless
enough (although it can make for awkward conversations with schooled
friends, ha ha). Today, though, I am wondering about it. I don't
know, maybe those horrible bells going off all day are making me
crazy!
Jean
Nancy Wooton
on 9/30/02 2:34 PM, avgjean at avgjean@... wrote:
their agemates will still enjoy school. If they are older, it may be the
public school kids themselves who convince yours how good homeschooling is.
I've heard more than one "You are SO lucky!" directed my kids' way <g>
Nancy
> Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poorIf your kids are really young (Kindergarten, first, maybe second grade)
> kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
> kids march around in lines?" Some days it just seems harmless
> enough (although it can make for awkward conversations with schooled
> friends, ha ha). Today, though, I am wondering about it.
their agemates will still enjoy school. If they are older, it may be the
public school kids themselves who convince yours how good homeschooling is.
I've heard more than one "You are SO lucky!" directed my kids' way <g>
Nancy
Pam Hartley
> Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poorIf your kids are asking about going to school, I think it's fair to give
> kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
> kids march around in lines?" Some days it just seems harmless
> enough (although it can make for awkward conversations with schooled
> friends, ha ha). Today, though, I am wondering about it.
them the facts of what goes on there (you sort of have to, as they have
Barney and those of their friends who don't yet hate school and possibly
your relatives or others praising it).
When Brit was asking about school a couple of years ago, I told her, "You'd
need to go to bed much earlier than you do and get up much earlier than you
do. You'd have to do what the teacher told you to do every day, for hours,
instead of deciding what you wanted to do for yourself. You'd have to ask if
you wanted to go to the bathroom, and they might make you wait. You'd have
to wait to eat at a certain time when they told you to, not when you wanted
to." Etc.
Pam
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In a message dated 9/30/02 3:37:45 PM, avgjean@... writes:
<< Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
kids march around in lines?" >>
Well, I remember people telling me "Look! They're going in to have fun, to
sing songs, and to color!"
That's brainwashing.
"Don't you want to go to school and learn to read and to make a lot of
friends?"
I really did like school, but I always knew I was in the minority.
Sandra
<< Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
kids march around in lines?" >>
Well, I remember people telling me "Look! They're going in to have fun, to
sing songs, and to color!"
That's brainwashing.
"Don't you want to go to school and learn to read and to make a lot of
friends?"
I really did like school, but I always knew I was in the minority.
Sandra
Joylyn
janene, age 4, wants to go to school.
she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint.
if i had a job now, i might find her a nice preschool, but
unfortunately, without a job, it's not really possible. not sure what
my other choices are.
joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint.
if i had a job now, i might find her a nice preschool, but
unfortunately, without a job, it's not really possible. not sure what
my other choices are.
joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/30/02 3:37:45 PM, avgjean@... writes:
>
> << Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
> kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
> kids march around in lines?" >>
>
> Well, I remember people telling me "Look! They're going in to have
> fun, to
> sing songs, and to color!"
>
> That's brainwashing.
>
> "Don't you want to go to school and learn to read and to make a lot of
> friends?"
>
> I really did like school, but I always knew I was in the minority.
>
> Sandra
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Betsy
**she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint. **
A music or art class might be a lot cheaper than hours and hours of
preschool. Or what about having a little co-op with people you know
just to paint and sing and have outside play (which you can call recess
for the thrill of it).
My friend who teaches music gives free (group) lessons to the kids of
the mom who watches her toddler during classes.
Betsy
A music or art class might be a lot cheaper than hours and hours of
preschool. Or what about having a little co-op with people you know
just to paint and sing and have outside play (which you can call recess
for the thrill of it).
My friend who teaches music gives free (group) lessons to the kids of
the mom who watches her toddler during classes.
Betsy
avgjean
--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Joylyn <joylyn@e...> wrote:
going off to preschool and kindergarten. That's when I started
going to the local homeschool park days and to periodically sign her
up for community classes like art or gymnastics. Having other
homeschoolers around is the best thing for that, but we still see
her schooled friends, too. School is more of a curiosity now,
thanks, in part, to all my "horror" stories about having to sit at a
desk for hours, do boring worksheets instead of reading good books,
etc.
School to us is like daycare..it is there for people who need it,
but we don't need it. Still, I would like to be more quick to give
an answer to "why homeschool?" that is more positive than "because
we hate all that school represents." Does that make sense?
Jean
> janene, age 4, wants to go to school.My daughter wanted to go to school when all her friends started
>
> she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint.
>
going off to preschool and kindergarten. That's when I started
going to the local homeschool park days and to periodically sign her
up for community classes like art or gymnastics. Having other
homeschoolers around is the best thing for that, but we still see
her schooled friends, too. School is more of a curiosity now,
thanks, in part, to all my "horror" stories about having to sit at a
desk for hours, do boring worksheets instead of reading good books,
etc.
School to us is like daycare..it is there for people who need it,
but we don't need it. Still, I would like to be more quick to give
an answer to "why homeschool?" that is more positive than "because
we hate all that school represents." Does that make sense?
Jean
Joylyn
that's a good idea.
joylyn
Betsy wrote:
joylyn
Betsy wrote:
> **she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint. **[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> A music or art class might be a lot cheaper than hours and hours of
> preschool. Or what about having a little co-op with people you know
> just to paint and sing and have outside play (which you can call recess
> for the thrill of it).
>
> My friend who teaches music gives free (group) lessons to the kids of
> the mom who watches her toddler during classes.
>
> Betsy
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Joylyn
well, janene's been going to homeschool days for two years, so that's
not the problem. i think an art's or music class with other kids her
age would help her. i'll do that.
joylyn
avgjean wrote:
not the problem. i think an art's or music class with other kids her
age would help her. i'll do that.
joylyn
avgjean wrote:
> --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Joylyn <joylyn@e...> wrote:
> > janene, age 4, wants to go to school.
> >
> > she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint.
> >
> My daughter wanted to go to school when all her friends started
> going off to preschool and kindergarten. That's when I started
> going to the local homeschool park days and to periodically sign her
> up for community classes like art or gymnastics. Having other
> homeschoolers around is the best thing for that, but we still see
> her schooled friends, too. School is more of a curiosity now,
> thanks, in part, to all my "horror" stories about having to sit at a
> desk for hours, do boring worksheets instead of reading good books,
> etc.
> School to us is like daycare..it is there for people who need it,
> but we don't need it. Still, I would like to be more quick to give
> an answer to "why homeschool?" that is more positive than "because
> we hate all that school represents." Does that make sense?
> Jean
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Tia Leschke
>Have recess, sing songs, and paint.
> she wants to have recess, to sing songs and paint.
>
> if i had a job now, i might find her a nice preschool, but
> unfortunately, without a job, it's not really possible. not sure what
> my other choices are.
<g>
Tia
Janet Hamlin
When we're out early in the mornings we see tons of kids (elementary age
mostly) out waiting for the bus. NONE of these kids look happy or excited
about going to school. The other weird thing is that when we pass a school,
the buses are parked right out in front, kids trapped inside. NO ONE is
playing on the playground (which, btw, is a really nice big brand new one
they just put in when they expanded the school). What the heck is up with
that?
My dd (age 8) thought the Baldo cartoon from a few weeks ago was funny. Now
when we pass schools,
she calls out, "Processing plant!"
Janet
mostly) out waiting for the bus. NONE of these kids look happy or excited
about going to school. The other weird thing is that when we pass a school,
the buses are parked right out in front, kids trapped inside. NO ONE is
playing on the playground (which, btw, is a really nice big brand new one
they just put in when they expanded the school). What the heck is up with
that?
My dd (age 8) thought the Baldo cartoon from a few weeks ago was funny. Now
when we pass schools,
she calls out, "Processing plant!"
Janet
mary krzyzanowski
My children's school age friends (ranging in ages from 5 to 12) have all
asked their parents if they could be homeschooled too. In the immediate
area of my house (5 minute walk) there are 6 homeschooled kids
(unschooled-4-that would be us and a friend; curriculum hsed-2), 6 public
schooled kids and 4 who aren't old enough.
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asked their parents if they could be homeschooled too. In the immediate
area of my house (5 minute walk) there are 6 homeschooled kids
(unschooled-4-that would be us and a friend; curriculum hsed-2), 6 public
schooled kids and 4 who aren't old enough.
Mary-NY
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>Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] anti-schooling
>Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:43:34 -0700
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>on 9/30/02 2:34 PM, avgjean at avgjean@... wrote:
>
> > Am I brainwashing them with my comments like "Oh look at those poor
> > kids cooped up in school all day!" or "Isn't it bizarre when those
> > kids march around in lines?" Some days it just seems harmless
> > enough (although it can make for awkward conversations with schooled
> > friends, ha ha). Today, though, I am wondering about it.
>
>If your kids are really young (Kindergarten, first, maybe second grade)
>their agemates will still enjoy school. If they are older, it may be the
>public school kids themselves who convince yours how good homeschooling is.
>I've heard more than one "You are SO lucky!" directed my kids' way <g>
>
>Nancy
>
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Dawn Falbe
Here's something I was thinking about the other day. Have you ever
noticed that on Magic School Bus all of the adventures take place
outside of the school!! I've always thought that was ironic.
Dawn F
Tucson
noticed that on Magic School Bus all of the adventures take place
outside of the school!! I've always thought that was ironic.
Dawn F
Tucson
C. G. Bratton
I never even thought of that! And the Frizz doesn't follow traditional
teaching protocol.
Catherine
Davis, CA
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Catherine
Davis, CA
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concerned that I would start hearing how he'd like to go to school and ride
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> noticed that on Magic School Bus all of the adventures take place
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Did you also notice that the class on Magic School Bus has only about 8
kids? Mr. Ratburn's class (Arthur) has only 12 (I think), definitely not
what you'd find in a typical class.
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kids? Mr. Ratburn's class (Arthur) has only 12 (I think), definitely not
what you'd find in a typical class.
Mary-NY
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>Subject: [AlwaysLearning] anti-schooling
>Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:12:11 -0700
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>
>
>Here's something I was thinking about the other day. Have you ever
>noticed that on Magic School Bus all of the adventures take place
>outside of the school!! I've always thought that was ironic.
>
>Dawn F
>Tucson
>
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In a message dated 10/1/2002 11:45:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Make mistakes.
Get messy.
Don't you wish all the kids that had to go to school had a teacher like this?
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[email protected] writes:
> Here's something I was thinking about the other day. Have you everTake chances.
> noticed that on Magic School Bus all of the adventures take place
> outside of the school!! I've always thought that was ironic.
>
>
Make mistakes.
Get messy.
Don't you wish all the kids that had to go to school had a teacher like this?
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