"Science on T-Shirts"
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I've moved everything out of my office into two other rooms and part of a
storage shed. SO... stuff that has been in piles and boxes has come to the
surface. And some stuff that was on the surface has gone into piles and
boxes. Always frightening and exciting.
I was throwing away old catalogs and shipping lists and remembering when my
kids were younger and my favorite catalogs were Hearthsong and Chinaberry.
And I came across a catalog for Geographics t-shirts. A friend had given it
to me in 1995. FUNNY stuff.
So... I went to www.google.com, and here they are!
http://www.localgeographic.com/
I'm going to tell you what's on three of the shirts, and then quote from the
page on custom ordering. I really like the guy's style of writing. They're
in Arkansas.
When Evolution is Outlawed, only Outlaws will Evolve
Creationism is a Fig Leaf of Our Imagination
Creationists are Fossils in Their Own Time
If your design requires more than one color of ink, or if GEOGRAPHICS will be
providing any artwork, OR if you would prefer your shirts to be something
other than T-Shirts, adult size, please call us at 501-253-6830 and talk,
person to person, about your special needs.
Write to us about your special needs, and we will help you OR we will direct
you to a support group where you can discuss your special needs with
clinically trained counselors and law enforcement professionals.
Remember this as you shop: US48 Shipping is included in the prices of these
products. If you want your T-shirts shipped to Upper Volta, please write to
us for costs. If will be traveling to Upper Volta, please write to us. We
have some T-shirts we'd like you to deliver.
Shop long, shop hard,show no mercy and squeeze that credit card until it
bleeds. (Click Here for other helpful ordering tips.)
storage shed. SO... stuff that has been in piles and boxes has come to the
surface. And some stuff that was on the surface has gone into piles and
boxes. Always frightening and exciting.
I was throwing away old catalogs and shipping lists and remembering when my
kids were younger and my favorite catalogs were Hearthsong and Chinaberry.
And I came across a catalog for Geographics t-shirts. A friend had given it
to me in 1995. FUNNY stuff.
So... I went to www.google.com, and here they are!
http://www.localgeographic.com/
I'm going to tell you what's on three of the shirts, and then quote from the
page on custom ordering. I really like the guy's style of writing. They're
in Arkansas.
When Evolution is Outlawed, only Outlaws will Evolve
Creationism is a Fig Leaf of Our Imagination
Creationists are Fossils in Their Own Time
If your design requires more than one color of ink, or if GEOGRAPHICS will be
providing any artwork, OR if you would prefer your shirts to be something
other than T-Shirts, adult size, please call us at 501-253-6830 and talk,
person to person, about your special needs.
Write to us about your special needs, and we will help you OR we will direct
you to a support group where you can discuss your special needs with
clinically trained counselors and law enforcement professionals.
Remember this as you shop: US48 Shipping is included in the prices of these
products. If you want your T-shirts shipped to Upper Volta, please write to
us for costs. If will be traveling to Upper Volta, please write to us. We
have some T-shirts we'd like you to deliver.
Shop long, shop hard,show no mercy and squeeze that credit card until it
bleeds. (Click Here for other helpful ordering tips.)
Deborah Lewis
Oh, these are good!
A lot of really good ones, and I liked "If I hadn't believed it I never
would have seen it."
Deb L
A lot of really good ones, and I liked "If I hadn't believed it I never
would have seen it."
Deb L
Nanci Kuykendall
>Write to us about your special needs, and we willdeliver.
>help you OR we will direct you to a support group
>where you can discuss your special needs with
>clinically trained counselors and law enforcement
>professionals.
>....If will be traveling to Upper Volta, please write
>to us. We have some T-shirts we'd like you to
LOL! I love businesses with a sense of humor.
Nanci K.
Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
Okay,
So I'm on this mostly-hs-mainstream list with some decent folk and some
real linear thinkers, okay? And this one woman comes across with (get
this) *reading curriculum*!!!! and she's saying how she makes her kid take
tests because *they live in the real world* and she doesn't want him to be
limited in his future life or something equally inane.
Okay, so I mostly-politely posted how tests don't mean diddly squat and
have absolutely no relation to anything else when all I wanted to do was
yell that she was a DOOFUS doing that to her kid when Testing Doesn't Mean
Diddly Squat You Insecure Doofus Of An Unthinking Dolt!
So, I wanted to vent here because I'm tired of hearing such stupid, doofus,
mindless, kid-wasting things out there in the world and getting frustrated
about it is seriously inhibiting my linguistic abilities because I don't
usually repeat my insults and can generally come up with something a great
deal more interesting than 'doofus' and 'dolt'... but I digress.
The sheer inability of people to break from that 'educator-think' mold is,
is, well, it's infuriating. I want to go shake them all until they can't
think straight and maybe a fresh thought will break into their stagnant,
pudding-filled brainpans. Yeah, right. Next millennium maybe.
GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr......
Okay. Right.
I'd quit the list, but then they'd talk all the newbies into curriculum
lists and essential tests and etc. I'll leave it someday, but maybe not
just yet. I've got a few more people to free.
It's nice to have somewhere where I'm *not* the radical.
Thanks for sitting through the vent.
Heidi
So I'm on this mostly-hs-mainstream list with some decent folk and some
real linear thinkers, okay? And this one woman comes across with (get
this) *reading curriculum*!!!! and she's saying how she makes her kid take
tests because *they live in the real world* and she doesn't want him to be
limited in his future life or something equally inane.
Okay, so I mostly-politely posted how tests don't mean diddly squat and
have absolutely no relation to anything else when all I wanted to do was
yell that she was a DOOFUS doing that to her kid when Testing Doesn't Mean
Diddly Squat You Insecure Doofus Of An Unthinking Dolt!
So, I wanted to vent here because I'm tired of hearing such stupid, doofus,
mindless, kid-wasting things out there in the world and getting frustrated
about it is seriously inhibiting my linguistic abilities because I don't
usually repeat my insults and can generally come up with something a great
deal more interesting than 'doofus' and 'dolt'... but I digress.
The sheer inability of people to break from that 'educator-think' mold is,
is, well, it's infuriating. I want to go shake them all until they can't
think straight and maybe a fresh thought will break into their stagnant,
pudding-filled brainpans. Yeah, right. Next millennium maybe.
GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr......
Okay. Right.
I'd quit the list, but then they'd talk all the newbies into curriculum
lists and essential tests and etc. I'll leave it someday, but maybe not
just yet. I've got a few more people to free.
It's nice to have somewhere where I'm *not* the radical.
Thanks for sitting through the vent.
Heidi
Peggy
Heidi wrote:
couldn't be winners... Some parents really buy into that reflected glory thing
too. And, to some, I think it is sort of god with them, the god of "Quantify"
everything cut up into it's tiniest parts and formed into a chart all neat and
tidy for all the world to see. And they graph the aberrations in their kids as
well.
You know how they are advertising wireless phones with pictures now? I just
had this mental image of some of those folks considering "picture phone time"
with their kids as "quality time". And imagining them glance at their watches
to make sure they talk long enough...
Peggy
> deal more interesting than 'doofus' and 'dolt'... but I digress.Don't ya know it's a race? And if there weren't losers then their kids
>
> The sheer inability of people to break from that 'educator-think' mold is, is, well, it's infuriating. I want to go shake them all until they can't think straight and maybe a fresh thought will break into their stagnant, pudding-filled brainpans. Yeah, right. Next millennium maybe.
>
> GRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr......
couldn't be winners... Some parents really buy into that reflected glory thing
too. And, to some, I think it is sort of god with them, the god of "Quantify"
everything cut up into it's tiniest parts and formed into a chart all neat and
tidy for all the world to see. And they graph the aberrations in their kids as
well.
You know how they are advertising wireless phones with pictures now? I just
had this mental image of some of those folks considering "picture phone time"
with their kids as "quality time". And imagining them glance at their watches
to make sure they talk long enough...
Peggy
Janet Hamlin
Heidi, I laughed so hard at your post.....I GET it, LOL.
You are describing my neighbor, but she isn't a homeschooler. She goes on
and on about the stupidity of school, the idiocy of homework (her son is in
first grade), then goes on to babble about how when he writes he still gets
his letters backwards (well, duh, it's normal and he's only six!). I keep
using Sandra's line on her, "Well, you could always pull him out....." or
"There ARE alternatives..."
Last week the boy called, wanting to come over and play with my kids. I
said, sure, they're out riding bikes. Bring yours. Well, he shows up with
his dad, sans bike. The dad says he couldn't bring his bike because he
can't ride it yet. I asked about the training wheels. Well, dontcha know,
the parents took them off back in the spring trying to coerce the kid into
riding without them (why???) and he (the kid) doesn't want to. So I said,
why don't you just put them back on? He'll ride without when he's ready.
The dad sheepishly admitted he threw them out. I countered with the fact
that they're only ten bucks at Wal-Mart, you could buy new ones. Meanwhile,
the kid has been without a bike ALL SUMMER, YOU MORON!! (I wanted to shout
that but didn't.) He left, and his kid happily rode my 4yo's bike with
training wheels (BWEG:) while ds rode his trike so all 3 could ride.
Janet, mom to Caroline, 8, and Thomas, 4
You are describing my neighbor, but she isn't a homeschooler. She goes on
and on about the stupidity of school, the idiocy of homework (her son is in
first grade), then goes on to babble about how when he writes he still gets
his letters backwards (well, duh, it's normal and he's only six!). I keep
using Sandra's line on her, "Well, you could always pull him out....." or
"There ARE alternatives..."
Last week the boy called, wanting to come over and play with my kids. I
said, sure, they're out riding bikes. Bring yours. Well, he shows up with
his dad, sans bike. The dad says he couldn't bring his bike because he
can't ride it yet. I asked about the training wheels. Well, dontcha know,
the parents took them off back in the spring trying to coerce the kid into
riding without them (why???) and he (the kid) doesn't want to. So I said,
why don't you just put them back on? He'll ride without when he's ready.
The dad sheepishly admitted he threw them out. I countered with the fact
that they're only ten bucks at Wal-Mart, you could buy new ones. Meanwhile,
the kid has been without a bike ALL SUMMER, YOU MORON!! (I wanted to shout
that but didn't.) He left, and his kid happily rode my 4yo's bike with
training wheels (BWEG:) while ds rode his trike so all 3 could ride.
Janet, mom to Caroline, 8, and Thomas, 4
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/3/02 10:32:03 PM, heidi@... writes:
<< I'll leave it someday, but maybe not
just yet. I've got a few more people to free.
It's nice to have somewhere where I'm *not* the radical.
Thanks for sitting through the vent. >>
I don't go to the local homeschooling meetings anymore. My choice is to sit
on a bench and hear calmly how someone can't get her child to do her work (a
four or five year old, sometimes) OR for me to go into unschooling. I don't
want to do either, in person, with people who might not even be back.
Maybe you could just not read the list for a few weeks and then go in twice a
month or so with links to unschooling stuff and a reminder for new people
that the school model doesn't work or it would be working at school!
Sandra
<< I'll leave it someday, but maybe not
just yet. I've got a few more people to free.
It's nice to have somewhere where I'm *not* the radical.
Thanks for sitting through the vent. >>
I don't go to the local homeschooling meetings anymore. My choice is to sit
on a bench and hear calmly how someone can't get her child to do her work (a
four or five year old, sometimes) OR for me to go into unschooling. I don't
want to do either, in person, with people who might not even be back.
Maybe you could just not read the list for a few weeks and then go in twice a
month or so with links to unschooling stuff and a reminder for new people
that the school model doesn't work or it would be working at school!
Sandra
Stephanie Elms
Hi Heidi. I am on that same list with you. In fact I think that it was
my comment on why test at all that got it started. I am still composing
my reply but want to not feel rushed like I do now with my kids awake.
And I have to admire your control and how well you hold your tongue! LOL!
I have been meaning to post an introduction. I know some folks from the
unschooling.com list and have been lurking here for a little while.
I am relatively new to unschooling (I have 5.5 yo and 2.5 yo boys) and
we have just started incorporating the concepts into all areas of our lives.
We got rid of tv/computer limits about a month or so ago (that is going
great) and we got rid of junk food restrictions about 2 weeks ago (still
in the adjustment phase and hoping to survive. Still debating the wisdom of
doing it around Halloween LOL!).
I have really enjoyed reading the posts here and have been learning a lot.
Oh, and I have to put my vote in for Sean Connery....
Stephanie E.
my comment on why test at all that got it started. I am still composing
my reply but want to not feel rushed like I do now with my kids awake.
And I have to admire your control and how well you hold your tongue! LOL!
I have been meaning to post an introduction. I know some folks from the
unschooling.com list and have been lurking here for a little while.
I am relatively new to unschooling (I have 5.5 yo and 2.5 yo boys) and
we have just started incorporating the concepts into all areas of our lives.
We got rid of tv/computer limits about a month or so ago (that is going
great) and we got rid of junk food restrictions about 2 weeks ago (still
in the adjustment phase and hoping to survive. Still debating the wisdom of
doing it around Halloween LOL!).
I have really enjoyed reading the posts here and have been learning a lot.
Oh, and I have to put my vote in for Sean Connery....
Stephanie E.
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/4/02 11:08:42 AM, stephanie.elms@...
writes:
<< and we got rid of junk food restrictions about 2 weeks ago (still
in the adjustment phase and hoping to survive. Still debating the wisdom of
doing it around Halloween LOL!). >>
The best time!!
OTHER people paid for the materials.
All our lives people say "If you eat too much of that you'll get sick."
Some people have never managed to get sick no matter how much candy they eat.
Some have. But we don't know what's true unless we actually try it. And
sick from candy is rarely worse than not wanting more, or the squirts.
And the amount it takes to get sick is not three pieces.
But how cool when a kid tastes a piece of candy and throws the rest in the
trash because he feels so rich with all his halloween candy that it's
expendable and he CAN throw it in the trash.
Kids who are not allowed candy will eat ALL of the most horrible little
piece, because it cost them so much to get it.
Sandra
writes:
<< and we got rid of junk food restrictions about 2 weeks ago (still
in the adjustment phase and hoping to survive. Still debating the wisdom of
doing it around Halloween LOL!). >>
The best time!!
OTHER people paid for the materials.
All our lives people say "If you eat too much of that you'll get sick."
Some people have never managed to get sick no matter how much candy they eat.
Some have. But we don't know what's true unless we actually try it. And
sick from candy is rarely worse than not wanting more, or the squirts.
And the amount it takes to get sick is not three pieces.
But how cool when a kid tastes a piece of candy and throws the rest in the
trash because he feels so rich with all his halloween candy that it's
expendable and he CAN throw it in the trash.
Kids who are not allowed candy will eat ALL of the most horrible little
piece, because it cost them so much to get it.
Sandra
Pam Hartley
----------
I've eaten way more Halloween candy than either of my daughters have (and I
was raised with limits <g>). We usually "combine the tubs" of candy after a
few days. This year, the day after Halloween when I was organizing
things-in-general I asked the girls if they minded if we just put all the
candy (both of theirs, some extras I'd bought, plus the leftovers that
didn't get handed out Halloween night) in one big tub.
They didn't.
If they were limited, they'd be candy misers like I was growing up. Sharing
out of one big tub would be abhorrent to them.
When my youngest asked if there were any more Twix and I told her there
weren't, she took it philosophically. I also told her I'd pick them up next
time I went to the store.
I like our way better. :)
Pam
>From: "Stephanie Elms" <stephanie.elms@...>Welcome, Stephanie. :)
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Gotta Vent... boob about testing
>Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2002, 10:06 AM
>
> I have been meaning to post an introduction. I know some folks from the
> unschooling.com list and have been lurking here for a little while.
> I am relatively new to unschooling (I have 5.5 yo and 2.5 yo boys) and
> we have just started incorporating the concepts into all areas of our lives.
> We got rid of tv/computer limits about a month or so ago (that is going
> great) and we got rid of junk food restrictions about 2 weeks ago (still
> in the adjustment phase and hoping to survive. Still debating the wisdom of
> doing it around Halloween LOL!).
I've eaten way more Halloween candy than either of my daughters have (and I
was raised with limits <g>). We usually "combine the tubs" of candy after a
few days. This year, the day after Halloween when I was organizing
things-in-general I asked the girls if they minded if we just put all the
candy (both of theirs, some extras I'd bought, plus the leftovers that
didn't get handed out Halloween night) in one big tub.
They didn't.
If they were limited, they'd be candy misers like I was growing up. Sharing
out of one big tub would be abhorrent to them.
When my youngest asked if there were any more Twix and I told her there
weren't, she took it philosophically. I also told her I'd pick them up next
time I went to the store.
I like our way better. :)
Pam
avgjean
--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema <heidi@d...>
wrote:
and I said something to one of my sisters about the legal crap that
was going on here in California. She is a lawyer, and kinda anti-
gov. so it was just chit chat, but before I knew it, four of my
sisters had got to the table and they were all ranting about crazy
parents who just kept their kids out of school and did nothing with
them. This it the justification for the gov. coming in to test all
kids, even homeschooled ones. One of my sisters very firmily told
me I should have my kids tested, IF ONLY to be sure they know how to
take tests! Oh gee, they don't even know that I am one of the
crazies who doesn't do a reading curriculum. Since we were heading
to a funeral, after all, I just held my tongue. I don't know, I
don't bother telling people my ideas unless they ask. That's
because I hate confrontation. :)
Jean
wrote:
> Okay,and she's saying how she makes her kid take
> tests because *they live in the real world* and she doesn't wanthim to be
> limited in his future life or something equally inane.Last month I was with my family, getting ready for a family funeral,
and I said something to one of my sisters about the legal crap that
was going on here in California. She is a lawyer, and kinda anti-
gov. so it was just chit chat, but before I knew it, four of my
sisters had got to the table and they were all ranting about crazy
parents who just kept their kids out of school and did nothing with
them. This it the justification for the gov. coming in to test all
kids, even homeschooled ones. One of my sisters very firmily told
me I should have my kids tested, IF ONLY to be sure they know how to
take tests! Oh gee, they don't even know that I am one of the
crazies who doesn't do a reading curriculum. Since we were heading
to a funeral, after all, I just held my tongue. I don't know, I
don't bother telling people my ideas unless they ask. That's
because I hate confrontation. :)
Jean
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/3/02 11:55:55 PM Central Standard Time,
peggy@... writes:
was working! (Back in the dark ages.) There was a report they would have to
compile on excel every month tracking workers compensation costs by
department by injury and updating the real dollars spent and the dollars in
reserve in cast the claim blew up. It was complicated, involved, really a
pain in the ass to do. I would spend a lot of time reviewing it, monitoring
the claims, etc. Turns out all the managers who NEEDED the report were not
even reading it and couldn't interpret it if they wanted to. But they needed
something for their files and it looked pretty.
So, yes, some things in life are like the testing these parents are requiring
of their kids. But they are still asinine.
Elizabeth
peggy@... writes:
> Some parents really buy into that reflected glory thing"Quantify"
> too. And, to some, I think it is sort of god with them, the god of
>This so reminds me of something my subordinates were required to do when I
> everything cut up into it's tiniest parts and formed into a chart all neat
> and
> tidy for all the world to see.
was working! (Back in the dark ages.) There was a report they would have to
compile on excel every month tracking workers compensation costs by
department by injury and updating the real dollars spent and the dollars in
reserve in cast the claim blew up. It was complicated, involved, really a
pain in the ass to do. I would spend a lot of time reviewing it, monitoring
the claims, etc. Turns out all the managers who NEEDED the report were not
even reading it and couldn't interpret it if they wanted to. But they needed
something for their files and it looked pretty.
So, yes, some things in life are like the testing these parents are requiring
of their kids. But they are still asinine.
Elizabeth
Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
Hey all,
I'm recently back from a three-week across-the-country (well, mostly) trip
with my darling 16 year old daughter. And we're both alive! (grin)
Anyway, what made it possible were two things.
1. Books on tape (from library and a discount book store)(Daughter hated
them, but I told her tough ta-tas unless she was willing to drive. She
wasn't.)
2. Feather pillow on my car seat, under my tuchus.
(Glory Hallelujah! Makes all the difference in the world.)
1 again. I chose the trip path going out, Daughter chose the trip path
going back.
(okay, so it's two things plus a third.)
2. Lots of snacky food in the back seat, reachable, and stopping for food
whenever one of us is hungry.
(Okay, four things.)
1. Driving late at night so we could get some distance, but letting
ourselves sleep late in the morning ('cause that's the way our body clocks
work.)
(alright, so who's counting?)
2. Being willing to drive on the Extraterrestrial Highway and not minding
taking a wrong turn and having to go through Death Valley instead of
someplace a little less warm. (When we make a wrong turn, we *really* make
a wrong turn!)
And those are my two secrets for successful long car rides.
Most important is maybe only traveling with one other person. Makes it
easier to meet everyone's needs, especially your own. (grin)
Heidi
I'm recently back from a three-week across-the-country (well, mostly) trip
with my darling 16 year old daughter. And we're both alive! (grin)
Anyway, what made it possible were two things.
1. Books on tape (from library and a discount book store)(Daughter hated
them, but I told her tough ta-tas unless she was willing to drive. She
wasn't.)
2. Feather pillow on my car seat, under my tuchus.
(Glory Hallelujah! Makes all the difference in the world.)
1 again. I chose the trip path going out, Daughter chose the trip path
going back.
(okay, so it's two things plus a third.)
2. Lots of snacky food in the back seat, reachable, and stopping for food
whenever one of us is hungry.
(Okay, four things.)
1. Driving late at night so we could get some distance, but letting
ourselves sleep late in the morning ('cause that's the way our body clocks
work.)
(alright, so who's counting?)
2. Being willing to drive on the Extraterrestrial Highway and not minding
taking a wrong turn and having to go through Death Valley instead of
someplace a little less warm. (When we make a wrong turn, we *really* make
a wrong turn!)
And those are my two secrets for successful long car rides.
Most important is maybe only traveling with one other person. Makes it
easier to meet everyone's needs, especially your own. (grin)
Heidi
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/6/02 11:38:42 PM Central Standard Time,
heidi@... writes:
the most unexpected yet fun/best part? Do tell more!
~Nancy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
heidi@... writes:
> And those are my two secrets for successful long car rides.I love your 6 uh, I mean 2 driving tips! <g> Where all did you go? What was
> Most important is maybe only traveling with one other person. Makes it
> easier to meet everyone's needs, especially your own. (grin)
> Heidi
>
the most unexpected yet fun/best part? Do tell more!
~Nancy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
At 01:04 AM 11/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
across on Hwy 70 (get out your atlas's) from California to Ohio, took the
back roads where Cali meets Nv and wasn't that pretty!, stopped in Reno at
Circus Circus (lost $20 at the slots and $20 for the kids to win stuffed
animals in the kiddy part so we'd have something to bring back to her
brother.) Realized I'd left *ALL* of my clothing at home, so I have a
circus-circus outfiit now with boxer underwear that says 'Big Winner!'
(grin). Stopped at various truck stops as soon as I figured they had
hawaiian shirts on sale and a stock of big-waisted sweatpants. I'm all
stocked up now, good and festive. (and Y-fronts are *amazingly*
comfortable, ladies! You might want to try them!) Stopped again for gas
somewhere in Montana and discovered 'Fred's Place' where the table setter
is 95 years old if he's a day and all the ranchers looked at us curiously
and the cook had his (pretty inane, but kind of funny) books self-published
and on each of the tables (available for purchase!) and they have the
World's Best Hamburgers! Honest! Had some tire-work done shortly
thereafter and the tire place gave us (just handed the keys over - no ID,
no nothin') this old conversion van from the early 70's, puke brown and
green with the little window in the rear and shag carpeting on the walls,
so we had fun trucking around in that for a while, trying to remember all
the disco tunes we knew until the tires were fixed. Ran out of gas in
Nebraska or Iowa someplace at 11 at night. Luckily gas was less than a
mile away. Hooray! Stopped a few other places, but we'd mostly just sped
to get to Ohio where I dropped the girls off to visit awhile. I went to
Minnesota, then took the ferry (complete with stateroom!) from Wisconsin to
Michigan to visit my new baby nephew and other assorted family members,
helped my brother paint his house, picked Rae up in Ohio again and mostly
took 80 back. We stopped for barbeque in St. Louis (went up the arch then
made it to the local AAA office five minutes before closing, but the guy
loved our trip and was hauling out maps left and right finding great places
for us to go and didn't leave until well after closing time) and Kansas
City (love that barbeque!) I said I'd wait to see carhenge (Nebraska)
until the next trip out, so she could do four corners and I could visit an
indian site (NM, or Arizona, I think.) I forgot my pillow in a hotel, but
called them and they UPS'd it back home so we didn't have to turn
around. Hooray! The Extra Terrestrial highway (long and flat, funky
vegetation!), almost running out of gas along the ET because there were
*no* gas stations and I didn't think to turn around and fill up completely
(15 gallon tank, it took 14.3 gallons to fill it when we finally found
gas!), almost getting a ticket in some little bitty town in Nevada, right
near the California border, missing the turnoff and going south into death
valley (hot, hot, hot, hot!) then through Yosemite and back home to the bay
area!
I suppose the most unexpected part was losing the tread on a tire -
Twice! I know what it feels and sounds like now and I have four new tires
on the car. Hooray! ..and then there was the time the air conditioner's
overflow tube got plugged up and we started a swimming pool on the right
side of the car. What a hoot! Couldn't figure it out for the longest time.
The best part was somewhere in Kansas, passing up seeing the six legged cow
(thank goodness), stopping for gas and lunch, looking to the right and
seeing the Prairie Museum. They had a really cool sod house, The Biggest
Barn in Kansas, an old 1800's house with furnishings and an old school
house we could walk through - all on our own, with nobody else around, and
we could touch whatever we wanted. The outhouse was smelly. Still in use,
I guess.
Inside was a museum that was made up of things folks have in their houses -
and not necessarily from a long time ago. It was kind of odd the things
the curator valued. Gaudy jewelry from the 1950's like my grandmama would
wear, in a case right next to a tiffany vase. A little wacky! It was kind
of like an every-day-person's museum with stuff a person would have
accumulated themselves. It was great!
I'd do it again in a minute, now that I'm all rested up again.
Heidi
>I love your 6 uh, I mean 2 driving tips! <g> Where all did you go? What wasWe (Rae, Zaria (Rae's NBTSC friend who lives in Ohio and I) high tailed it
>the most unexpected yet fun/best part? Do tell more!
across on Hwy 70 (get out your atlas's) from California to Ohio, took the
back roads where Cali meets Nv and wasn't that pretty!, stopped in Reno at
Circus Circus (lost $20 at the slots and $20 for the kids to win stuffed
animals in the kiddy part so we'd have something to bring back to her
brother.) Realized I'd left *ALL* of my clothing at home, so I have a
circus-circus outfiit now with boxer underwear that says 'Big Winner!'
(grin). Stopped at various truck stops as soon as I figured they had
hawaiian shirts on sale and a stock of big-waisted sweatpants. I'm all
stocked up now, good and festive. (and Y-fronts are *amazingly*
comfortable, ladies! You might want to try them!) Stopped again for gas
somewhere in Montana and discovered 'Fred's Place' where the table setter
is 95 years old if he's a day and all the ranchers looked at us curiously
and the cook had his (pretty inane, but kind of funny) books self-published
and on each of the tables (available for purchase!) and they have the
World's Best Hamburgers! Honest! Had some tire-work done shortly
thereafter and the tire place gave us (just handed the keys over - no ID,
no nothin') this old conversion van from the early 70's, puke brown and
green with the little window in the rear and shag carpeting on the walls,
so we had fun trucking around in that for a while, trying to remember all
the disco tunes we knew until the tires were fixed. Ran out of gas in
Nebraska or Iowa someplace at 11 at night. Luckily gas was less than a
mile away. Hooray! Stopped a few other places, but we'd mostly just sped
to get to Ohio where I dropped the girls off to visit awhile. I went to
Minnesota, then took the ferry (complete with stateroom!) from Wisconsin to
Michigan to visit my new baby nephew and other assorted family members,
helped my brother paint his house, picked Rae up in Ohio again and mostly
took 80 back. We stopped for barbeque in St. Louis (went up the arch then
made it to the local AAA office five minutes before closing, but the guy
loved our trip and was hauling out maps left and right finding great places
for us to go and didn't leave until well after closing time) and Kansas
City (love that barbeque!) I said I'd wait to see carhenge (Nebraska)
until the next trip out, so she could do four corners and I could visit an
indian site (NM, or Arizona, I think.) I forgot my pillow in a hotel, but
called them and they UPS'd it back home so we didn't have to turn
around. Hooray! The Extra Terrestrial highway (long and flat, funky
vegetation!), almost running out of gas along the ET because there were
*no* gas stations and I didn't think to turn around and fill up completely
(15 gallon tank, it took 14.3 gallons to fill it when we finally found
gas!), almost getting a ticket in some little bitty town in Nevada, right
near the California border, missing the turnoff and going south into death
valley (hot, hot, hot, hot!) then through Yosemite and back home to the bay
area!
I suppose the most unexpected part was losing the tread on a tire -
Twice! I know what it feels and sounds like now and I have four new tires
on the car. Hooray! ..and then there was the time the air conditioner's
overflow tube got plugged up and we started a swimming pool on the right
side of the car. What a hoot! Couldn't figure it out for the longest time.
The best part was somewhere in Kansas, passing up seeing the six legged cow
(thank goodness), stopping for gas and lunch, looking to the right and
seeing the Prairie Museum. They had a really cool sod house, The Biggest
Barn in Kansas, an old 1800's house with furnishings and an old school
house we could walk through - all on our own, with nobody else around, and
we could touch whatever we wanted. The outhouse was smelly. Still in use,
I guess.
Inside was a museum that was made up of things folks have in their houses -
and not necessarily from a long time ago. It was kind of odd the things
the curator valued. Gaudy jewelry from the 1950's like my grandmama would
wear, in a case right next to a tiffany vase. A little wacky! It was kind
of like an every-day-person's museum with stuff a person would have
accumulated themselves. It was great!
I'd do it again in a minute, now that I'm all rested up again.
Heidi
Shyrley
On 7 Nov 02, at 9:37, Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema wrote:
That sounds fantastic!
How long were you away?
Did you count up the miles you'd driven?
I'm planning to do a road trip of the US when my daughter is older.
That sounds just fab.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>Wow Heidi
> I'd do it again in a minute, now that I'm all rested up again.
> Heidi
>
That sounds fantastic!
How long were you away?
Did you count up the miles you'd driven?
I'm planning to do a road trip of the US when my daughter is older.
That sounds just fab.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
[email protected]
In a message dated 11/7/02 11:40:44 AM Central Standard Time,
heidi@... writes:
~Nancy
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heidi@... writes:
> I'd do it again in a minute, now that I'm all rested up again.Sounds like you had a blast! Thanks for sharing.
> Heidi
~Nancy
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Shyrley
Anyone recommend a hotel in Las Vegas or are they all pretty
much the same?
Are they all attatched to casino's?
We want one suitable for a family, near the lights n stuff. Not in a
dodgy high murder rate area :-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
much the same?
Are they all attatched to casino's?
We want one suitable for a family, near the lights n stuff. Not in a
dodgy high murder rate area :-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Jocelyn Vilter
I found a good rate at the Hilton, which is *just* off of The Strip. Very
nice and is where the Star Trek Experience is located. I used this website:
http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=Las%20Vegas
They have information about deals at a lot of the hotels.
Jocelyn
nice and is where the Star Trek Experience is located. I used this website:
http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=Las%20Vegas
They have information about deals at a lot of the hotels.
Jocelyn
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> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:59:16 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Las Vegas
>
>
>
> Anyone recommend a hotel in Las Vegas or are they all pretty
> much the same?
> Are they all attatched to casino's?
>
> We want one suitable for a family, near the lights n stuff. Not in a
> dodgy high murder rate area :-)
>
> Shyrley
>
>
> "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the
> same."
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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
We were gone two and a half weeks or so, give or take...We could have gone
a while longer (lots to see!) but we were both feeling a little homesick,
so we high tailed it on back. I didn't keep track of the miles. That
would have been interesting info to have! My daughter amused herself by
marking where she'd been with a highlighter on her own AAA USA map
though. I think she's posted it on her bedroom wall.
Shoot, now I want to travel again!
Heidi
At 12:48 PM 11/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
a while longer (lots to see!) but we were both feeling a little homesick,
so we high tailed it on back. I didn't keep track of the miles. That
would have been interesting info to have! My daughter amused herself by
marking where she'd been with a highlighter on her own AAA USA map
though. I think she's posted it on her bedroom wall.
Shoot, now I want to travel again!
Heidi
At 12:48 PM 11/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>How long were you away?
>Did you count up the miles you'd driven?
Shyrley
On 7 Nov 02, at 12:12, Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema wrote:
travelling again.
Thats a lot of driving for so short a time! I thought you were gone a
month at least.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> We were gone two and a half weeks or so, give or take...We could haveIt's made me want to sling myrucksack on my back and get
> gone a while longer (lots to see!) but we were both feeling a little
> homesick, so we high tailed it on back. I didn't keep track of the
> miles. That would have been interesting info to have! My daughter
> amused herself by marking where she'd been with a highlighter on her
> own AAA USA map though. I think she's posted it on her bedroom wall.
> Shoot, now I want to travel again! Heidi
travelling again.
Thats a lot of driving for so short a time! I thought you were gone a
month at least.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Fetteroll
on 11/7/02 2:56 PM, Jocelyn Vilter at jocelyn@... wrote:
shuttle that stops right at that hotel that travels the strip. I think it
was cheap, like 1.25 or something.
Joyce
> I found a good rate at the Hilton, which is *just* off of The Strip. VeryThat's at the far end of the Strip from the coolest casinos but there's a
> nice and is where the Star Trek Experience is located. I used this website:
shuttle that stops right at that hotel that travels the strip. I think it
was cheap, like 1.25 or something.
Joyce
Shyrley
On 8 Nov 02, at 5:52, Fetteroll wrote:
assume there is only one Hilton and we have managed to pick on
20 miles away?
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
> on 11/7/02 2:56 PM, Jocelyn Vilter at jocelyn@... wrote:We found rooms at the Hilton for $39 which seemed good. I
>
> > I found a good rate at the Hilton, which is *just* off of The Strip.
> > Very nice and is where the Star Trek Experience is located. I used
> > this website:
>
> That's at the far end of the Strip from the coolest casinos but
> there's a shuttle that stops right at that hotel that travels the
> strip. I think it was cheap, like 1.25 or something.
>
> Joyce
>
assume there is only one Hilton and we have managed to pick on
20 miles away?
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."