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In a message dated 9/3/02 12:05:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< I still remember finally *getting* what the pledge was about, and then
refusing to say it anymore. Liberty and justice for all in
1962? Sure! Then there was the under God part. Not me.
Tia
>>

Hey Tia, you were smarter than I!!!
I just learned where that damned pledge came from (a socialist that pushed to
get it into schools in the late 1800's) and that the "under God" part was
added in the 50's by a very fundamentalist Christian group.
Dh and I went to a music in the park thing that is very popular here and they
did the pledge in opening the concert. I couldn't say it, but I did stand up
respectfully with my hand over my heart. I felt like a hypocrite even doing
that, but didn't want to start a debate with our friends.

Ren

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In a message dated 9/3/02 1:16:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:


> Dh and I went to a music in the park thing that is very popular here and
> they
> did the pledge in opening the concert. I couldn't say it, but I did stand
> up
> respectfully with my hand over my heart. I felt like a hypocrite even doing
> that, but didn't want to start a debate with our friends.
>
> Ren
>

Hey Ren! Come sit over here on the hypocrite couch with me! <g> At the boy
scout information meeting the other night, the color guard came out with the
flag and they asked the parents to stand and join in the pledge. I stood, put
my hand over my heart, and the words just wouldn't come out, so I mouthed
along. Darin leaned over after and asked if I had said the pledge. "Of course
honey. Didn't you hear me?" And then, on Sunday, at our family reunion, I was
laughing with Jack half way through the prayer before we ate. Poor Grandma, I
just didn't realize the prayer was being said.
~Nancy~ Who is having a hard time reconciling these new ideas with her
patriotism and being a Republican. Not to say that Democrats are unpatriotic,
and not to say I am ready to shed my GOP affiliation just yet either. <veg>


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Nancy Wooton

on 9/3/02 11:33 AM, Dnowens@... at Dnowens@... wrote:

> ~Nancy~ Who is having a hard time reconciling these new ideas with her
> patriotism and being a Republican.

It'll get easier.

another Nancy, whose dh just jumped the GOP ship to the libertarian
lifeboat.


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It is the fundamental theory of all the more recent American law...that the
average citizen is half-witted, and hence not to be trusted to either his
own devices or his own thoughts.
-- H. L. Mencken