The South
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In a message dated 8/30/02 8:27:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< We used to love and camp at Big Lagoon State Park and my all time
favorite,
can't be beat beach in my opinion, is at Perdido Key, the second part coming
from the "FloraBama" >>
Oh yes! We went camping last year at Big Lagoon when an unschooling.com
gathering of Floridians fell apart. It was really fun. We liked the little
hike from the campgrounds over to the beach area.
Perdido key is really pretty, we like Johnson beach the best. Just went
kayaking there last month and got up close to dolphins (even a little baby)
and many sting rays.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< We used to love and camp at Big Lagoon State Park and my all time
favorite,
can't be beat beach in my opinion, is at Perdido Key, the second part coming
from the "FloraBama" >>
Oh yes! We went camping last year at Big Lagoon when an unschooling.com
gathering of Floridians fell apart. It was really fun. We liked the little
hike from the campgrounds over to the beach area.
Perdido key is really pretty, we like Johnson beach the best. Just went
kayaking there last month and got up close to dolphins (even a little baby)
and many sting rays.
Ren
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In a message dated 8/30/02 8:27:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Ever been to Fairhope, AL? That's my hometown. >>
Yep. Lived in Gulf Shores for the first three months we moved here (while
house hunting) so we drove through Elberta and all those little outlying
areas while searching around.
Fairhope is pretty, and close enough to Mobile to get all the culture.
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< Ever been to Fairhope, AL? That's my hometown. >>
Yep. Lived in Gulf Shores for the first three months we moved here (while
house hunting) so we drove through Elberta and all those little outlying
areas while searching around.
Fairhope is pretty, and close enough to Mobile to get all the culture.
Ren
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In a message dated 8/30/2002 10:32:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< Perdido key is really pretty, we like Johnson beach the best. Just went
kayaking there last month and got up close to dolphins (even a little baby)
and many sting rays.
Joy
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< Perdido key is really pretty, we like Johnson beach the best. Just went
kayaking there last month and got up close to dolphins (even a little baby)
and many sting rays.
>>See why I'm so homesick!
Joy
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In a message dated 9/1/02 4:09:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<<
I remember being in the line at the grocery store when we first moved to
Houston and saw a couple (one Caucasian, the other African American) walk
into the store and I was waiting to here a comment, see a look,
something........but no one even blinked an eye at them.
That's how I know Houston IS NOT the South. And it is one of the only
things I like about this place. When you grow up in an area and live there
all your life you think certain things are just "normal" or you know they
aren't right but you're not sure how to respond to those not so "tolerant"
individuals. Am I making any sense. If you've ever grown up in what I call
an "undercurrent" maybe this makes sense. >>
I SO understand. I grew up in Alaska, where this "undercurrent" of racial
intolerance is NOT the norm at all. There aren't a whole lot of black
families in Fairbanks, but there are a lot of well traveled people and a
touch of many different cultures even though it's predominantly caucasian
still.
It's a fairly liberal college town, lots of hippy type people and musicians,
authors, artists....sigh. I really love that about it. Plenty of weirdos
too.....really weird in a not good way...but that's the beauty of it.
I lived for nine years in the NW after Alaska (Washington/Oregon) which is
fairly liberal too (at least the Portland and Seattle areas are!)
So when I got down here it was a bit of a shock to say the least. Anyone up
North that would actually admit they thought interracial marriage was bad,
would be heavily questioned at the least! It's not an attitude that would be
tolerated by most.
I hear stuff like that down here and nobody saying anything against it. I've
been the lone voice more than once. YIKES!!
My firtst and biggest shock was seeing an anouncement about a KKK rally in
the newspaper after we'd been here about 2 weeks. I almost jumped in the car
and headed back North at that point. But I'm glad I stayed to see that there
are many, many wonderful people here, gorgeous beaches and a really strong
arts community here in Pensacola. I'm staying thank you. At least for now...
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<<
I remember being in the line at the grocery store when we first moved to
Houston and saw a couple (one Caucasian, the other African American) walk
into the store and I was waiting to here a comment, see a look,
something........but no one even blinked an eye at them.
That's how I know Houston IS NOT the South. And it is one of the only
things I like about this place. When you grow up in an area and live there
all your life you think certain things are just "normal" or you know they
aren't right but you're not sure how to respond to those not so "tolerant"
individuals. Am I making any sense. If you've ever grown up in what I call
an "undercurrent" maybe this makes sense. >>
I SO understand. I grew up in Alaska, where this "undercurrent" of racial
intolerance is NOT the norm at all. There aren't a whole lot of black
families in Fairbanks, but there are a lot of well traveled people and a
touch of many different cultures even though it's predominantly caucasian
still.
It's a fairly liberal college town, lots of hippy type people and musicians,
authors, artists....sigh. I really love that about it. Plenty of weirdos
too.....really weird in a not good way...but that's the beauty of it.
I lived for nine years in the NW after Alaska (Washington/Oregon) which is
fairly liberal too (at least the Portland and Seattle areas are!)
So when I got down here it was a bit of a shock to say the least. Anyone up
North that would actually admit they thought interracial marriage was bad,
would be heavily questioned at the least! It's not an attitude that would be
tolerated by most.
I hear stuff like that down here and nobody saying anything against it. I've
been the lone voice more than once. YIKES!!
My firtst and biggest shock was seeing an anouncement about a KKK rally in
the newspaper after we'd been here about 2 weeks. I almost jumped in the car
and headed back North at that point. But I'm glad I stayed to see that there
are many, many wonderful people here, gorgeous beaches and a really strong
arts community here in Pensacola. I'm staying thank you. At least for now...
Ren
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In a message dated 9/1/2002 4:17:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< But I'm glad I stayed to see that there
are many, many wonderful people here, gorgeous beaches and a really strong
arts community here in Pensacola. I'm staying thank you. At least for now...
moving in and out! <BWG>
Joy
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< But I'm glad I stayed to see that there
are many, many wonderful people here, gorgeous beaches and a really strong
arts community here in Pensacola. I'm staying thank you. At least for now...
>>We always considered Pensacola pretty liberal with all those "Navy people"
moving in and out! <BWG>
Joy
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In a message dated 9/2/02 2:06:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< We always considered Pensacola pretty liberal with all those "Navy people"
moving in and out! >>
Yes, it is definitely more liberal than any of the areas nearby. That's why
I'm really glad we live in town now. There are about eight art galleries in a
three block area, that tells you what is important here!! If a town has a
strong arts community, it can't be that bad :)
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< We always considered Pensacola pretty liberal with all those "Navy people"
moving in and out! >>
Yes, it is definitely more liberal than any of the areas nearby. That's why
I'm really glad we live in town now. There are about eight art galleries in a
three block area, that tells you what is important here!! If a town has a
strong arts community, it can't be that bad :)
Ren
KT
>And we're not all racists, either.
>
>I hear stuff like that down here and nobody saying anything against it. I've
>been the lone voice more than once. YIKES!!
>My firtst and biggest shock was seeing an anouncement about a KKK rally in
>the newspaper after we'd been here about 2 weeks. I almost jumped in the car
>and headed back North at that point. But I'm glad I stayed to see that there
>are many, many wonderful people here, gorgeous beaches and a really strong
>arts community here in Pensacola.
>
It's true--racist comments and attitudes are more common than you'd
think. But the poeple who don't make the comments and don't have the
attitudes have to be careful about who they piss off, too. After all,
we have to live by our neighbors and work for our boss, you know? I
know it's horrible and bad not to stand up against it. You just can't
do that kind of thing every day. You'd never get anything done.
Memphis, where I live, is a majority black city. Dr. King was
assassinated here. The ripples of that event are still present in many
ways. Willie Herenton was the first black mayor of the city, 10 years
ago. He has armed guards around him day and night. Shelby County,
which is the outskirts of Memphis, is mostly white. In the last
election, white Shelby County elected its first black mayor. The
previous Shelby County mayors didn't have any armed guards the whole
time he was mayor. No need. The new black mayor is hiring some today,
because yesterday, someone threw a bomb-like device through the window
of his home.
As a taxpayer here, I don't begrudge his armed guards a bit.
Tuck