Re: drivers ed
Julie Stauffer
<<Yikes. I lost a college friend that way>>
I think it has to do with personality on how you see that. I tend to see
the world as a pretty safe place, all told. I tend to think more of all the
people who have engaged in an activity and continue to be perfectly fine. I
have lost 2 good friends to car accidents but the vast majority of my
friends are alive and kicking.
Not saying we take the kids out in the back of the truck going 70 miles an
hour on an interstate but they do get to ride fairly often.
I think it has to do with personality on how you see that. I tend to see
the world as a pretty safe place, all told. I tend to think more of all the
people who have engaged in an activity and continue to be perfectly fine. I
have lost 2 good friends to car accidents but the vast majority of my
friends are alive and kicking.
Not saying we take the kids out in the back of the truck going 70 miles an
hour on an interstate but they do get to ride fairly often.
Joylyn
I knew someone who was in the back of a truck, the truck was on a dirt
road, going maybe 10-15 miles an hour. They hit a bump and he went
flying out of the truck. He hit wrong and his entire right arm/hand was
paralyzed.
My parents rode in vehicles without seat belts. As I child I wasn't in
a car seat but my parents did install seat belts and as toddlers we were
in harnesses. Both my parents and I are just fine, so does that mean I
shouldn't keep my kids in seat belts, or in car/booster seats? Of course
not. The risk, however slight, is decreased by my children being
buckled in safely.
I don't believe in sitting on a couch not living life for fear that we
will be injured. But I do believe in reducing that risk by not
practicing risky behavior, wearing seat belts, not riding unbelted, not
riding in the back of a truck, making sure the restraint system on a
rollercoaster fits correctly, etc.
I also don't see the desire to ride in the back of the truck being more
important than the risk of doing so. It's all about balancing risk vs
benefits.
So sorry, but Iwould never allow my children to ride in the back of a
truck.
joylyn
Julie Stauffer wrote:
road, going maybe 10-15 miles an hour. They hit a bump and he went
flying out of the truck. He hit wrong and his entire right arm/hand was
paralyzed.
My parents rode in vehicles without seat belts. As I child I wasn't in
a car seat but my parents did install seat belts and as toddlers we were
in harnesses. Both my parents and I are just fine, so does that mean I
shouldn't keep my kids in seat belts, or in car/booster seats? Of course
not. The risk, however slight, is decreased by my children being
buckled in safely.
I don't believe in sitting on a couch not living life for fear that we
will be injured. But I do believe in reducing that risk by not
practicing risky behavior, wearing seat belts, not riding unbelted, not
riding in the back of a truck, making sure the restraint system on a
rollercoaster fits correctly, etc.
I also don't see the desire to ride in the back of the truck being more
important than the risk of doing so. It's all about balancing risk vs
benefits.
So sorry, but Iwould never allow my children to ride in the back of a
truck.
joylyn
Julie Stauffer wrote:
> <<Yikes. I lost a college friend that way>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> I think it has to do with personality on how you see that. I tend to see
> the world as a pretty safe place, all told. I tend to think more of
> all the
> people who have engaged in an activity and continue to be perfectly
> fine. I
> have lost 2 good friends to car accidents but the vast majority of my
> friends are alive and kicking.
>
> Not saying we take the kids out in the back of the truck going 70 miles an
> hour on an interstate but they do get to ride fairly often.
>
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carolyn
Or experience. I worked for Nader back in the '70s and had an intense
experience reading letters and talking to people about all the things
that could and did go wrong when driving. It changed my mind/attitudes
forever. Still, I have a pretty care free attitude about life, but I
just don't take certain chances.
Carolyn
Julie Stauffer wrote:
experience reading letters and talking to people about all the things
that could and did go wrong when driving. It changed my mind/attitudes
forever. Still, I have a pretty care free attitude about life, but I
just don't take certain chances.
Carolyn
Julie Stauffer wrote:
> <<Yikes. I lost a college friend that way>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> I think it has to do with personality on how you see that.
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:47:38 -0500 "Julie Stauffer" <jnjstau@...>
writes:
dogs in the back of a pickup isn't.
It's all playing the odds, I suppose. A friend and I rode in the back of
a pickup all the way from Tucson to Laughlin and back once, stoned off my
ass and working on my tan. I'd ridden in the back of other pickups and
haven't been injured, although I know someone who was killed that way. I
just hate to use up all my good luck on unnecessary risks.
dar
writes:
> Not saying we take the kids out in the back of the truck going 70In California it's illegal. In Arizona it's legal, having your unsecured
> miles an
> hour on an interstate but they do get to ride fairly often.
dogs in the back of a pickup isn't.
It's all playing the odds, I suppose. A friend and I rode in the back of
a pickup all the way from Tucson to Laughlin and back once, stoned off my
ass and working on my tan. I'd ridden in the back of other pickups and
haven't been injured, although I know someone who was killed that way. I
just hate to use up all my good luck on unnecessary risks.
dar
Kate Green
I once had a student in my child development class who stated that he
believed seat belt laws were stupid and unnecessary. In his view it's all
about survival of the fittest -- stupid parents don't buckle children in so
their children have a higher chance of dying thus keeping the gene pool
strong!
It was one of those things thrown out in class that stumps you for a come
back.
Kate
PS Not writing this to accuse anyone of being stupid -- just repeating an
interesting remark.
believed seat belt laws were stupid and unnecessary. In his view it's all
about survival of the fittest -- stupid parents don't buckle children in so
their children have a higher chance of dying thus keeping the gene pool
strong!
It was one of those things thrown out in class that stumps you for a come
back.
Kate
PS Not writing this to accuse anyone of being stupid -- just repeating an
interesting remark.
Sharon Rudd
My fathers wife said the same of some kids playing in
a street (with traffic) when Bill (father) wanted to
stop and tell them to move. "Leave them", she said
"hopefully, it'll clean up the gene pool."
Sharon of the Swamp
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a street (with traffic) when Bill (father) wanted to
stop and tell them to move. "Leave them", she said
"hopefully, it'll clean up the gene pool."
Sharon of the Swamp
--- Kate Green <karegree@...> wrote:
>__________________________________________________
> I once had a student in my child development class
> who stated that he
> believed seat belt laws were stupid and unnecessary.
> In his view it's all
> about survival of the fittest -- stupid parents
> don't buckle children in so
> their children have a higher chance of dying thus
> keeping the gene pool
> strong!
>
> It was one of those things thrown out in class that
> stumps you for a come
> back.
>
> Kate
>
> PS Not writing this to accuse anyone of being stupid
> -- just repeating an
> interesting remark.
>
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Joylyn
freeform@... wrote:
if you take a lot of chanced, eventually you will be injured or worse.
the law of probability of something?
joylyn
> II like this... I don't necessarily believe in luck but I do believe that
> just hate to use up all my good luck on unnecessary risks.
>
> dar
if you take a lot of chanced, eventually you will be injured or worse.
the law of probability of something?
joylyn