fear of failure
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In a message dated 8/25/02 9:58:19 AM, leschke@... writes:
<< >I suppose people can put things off because they are afraid they will
taking notes in class.
Kirby (with the perfectionist tendencies) does LOTS of things, but not
things he won't be good at. I'm pretty much the same way, so I understand it.
Sandra
<< >I suppose people can put things off because they are afraid they will
>fail or afraid they're not good enough. I don't see this as being aKirby put off driver's ed because he's afraid his handwriting isn't up to
>problem for kids who are unschoolers, though maybe I'm wrong. >>
taking notes in class.
Kirby (with the perfectionist tendencies) does LOTS of things, but not
things he won't be good at. I'm pretty much the same way, so I understand it.
Sandra
Sharon Rudd
Get him one of those little tape recorders. They are
easy. Work great for any sort of lectur or seminars
where note-taking is distracting or bothersome. You
can't see the visuals if you are looking at your
hands.
Sharon of the Swamp
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easy. Work great for any sort of lectur or seminars
where note-taking is distracting or bothersome. You
can't see the visuals if you are looking at your
hands.
Sharon of the Swamp
> Kirby put off driver's ed because he's afraid his__________________________________________________
> handwriting isn't up to
> taking notes in class.
>
> Kirby (with the perfectionist tendencies) does LOTS
> of things, but not
> things he won't be good at. I'm pretty much the
> same way, so I understand it.
>
> Sandra
>
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At 12:30 PM 8/25/2002 -0400, you wrote:
like any other high school and offer drivers ed ourselves. Have you
checked with your DMV? It might be an option.
...of course, it also means actually getting in the car with your
never-driven-before teenager... Thankfully, mine was scared enough that
she drove like a little old grandma at a whopping 5 miles an hour! (think:
midnight, empty parking lot.)
Heidi
>Kirby put off driver's ed because he's afraid his handwriting isn't up toHere in California, our 'private school' can register with the DMV, just
>taking notes in class.
like any other high school and offer drivers ed ourselves. Have you
checked with your DMV? It might be an option.
...of course, it also means actually getting in the car with your
never-driven-before teenager... Thankfully, mine was scared enough that
she drove like a little old grandma at a whopping 5 miles an hour! (think:
midnight, empty parking lot.)
Heidi
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In a message dated 8/25/02 8:24:22 PM, heidi@... writes:
<< Here in California, our 'private school' can register with the DMV, just
like any other high school and offer drivers ed ourselves. Have you
checked with your DMV? It might be an option. >>
I'm not registered to homeschool. <g>
Since he's waited to 16, it might be he could just get his own learner's
permit and study the book, though, and get his license straight across
without the advantages of early driver's ed. I don't know how that would
affect the insurance rates, not having driver's ed. At some point I know it
doesn't matter as much, but probably not at this age (16).
-=-...of course, it also means actually getting in the car with your
never-driven-before teenager... Thankfully, mine was scared enough that
she drove like a little old grandma at a whopping 5 miles an hour! (think:
midnight, empty parking lot.)-=-
Been there! <g>
There used to be roads behind abandoned businesses and a big parking lot near
us which were deserted at night, and all three of my kids have driven my van
(an automatic) there. I've taught a couple of teens to drive (when I was in
my 20's, not my own kids <g>), and really enjoyed it.
That's an idea, doing it ourselves!
Sandra
<< Here in California, our 'private school' can register with the DMV, just
like any other high school and offer drivers ed ourselves. Have you
checked with your DMV? It might be an option. >>
I'm not registered to homeschool. <g>
Since he's waited to 16, it might be he could just get his own learner's
permit and study the book, though, and get his license straight across
without the advantages of early driver's ed. I don't know how that would
affect the insurance rates, not having driver's ed. At some point I know it
doesn't matter as much, but probably not at this age (16).
-=-...of course, it also means actually getting in the car with your
never-driven-before teenager... Thankfully, mine was scared enough that
she drove like a little old grandma at a whopping 5 miles an hour! (think:
midnight, empty parking lot.)-=-
Been there! <g>
There used to be roads behind abandoned businesses and a big parking lot near
us which were deserted at night, and all three of my kids have driven my van
(an automatic) there. I've taught a couple of teens to drive (when I was in
my 20's, not my own kids <g>), and really enjoyed it.
That's an idea, doing it ourselves!
Sandra
dabejorysmom
I have two kids that went through drivers ed in NM. Neither of them
took a single note! They passed the class and their tests, both
written and behind the wheel with no problem. They just studied the
book and drove a lot with mom or dad in the car. They both were at
least 16 when they first got their permits. They were both over at
least 17 by the time they felt ready to test and get their license to
drive on their own.
-Suzanna
took a single note! They passed the class and their tests, both
written and behind the wheel with no problem. They just studied the
book and drove a lot with mom or dad in the car. They both were at
least 16 when they first got their permits. They were both over at
least 17 by the time they felt ready to test and get their license to
drive on their own.
-Suzanna
--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/25/02 8:24:22 PM, heidi@d... writes:
>
> << Here in California, our 'private school' can register with the
DMV, just
> like any other high school and offer drivers ed ourselves. Have
you
> checked with your DMV? It might be an option. >>
>
> I'm not registered to homeschool. <g>
>
> Since he's waited to 16, it might be he could just get his own
learner's
> permit and study the book, though, and get his license straight
across
> without the advantages of early driver's ed. I don't know how that
would
> affect the insurance rates, not having driver's ed. At some point
I know it
> doesn't matter as much, but probably not at this age (16).
>
> -=-...of course, it also means actually getting in the car with
your
> never-driven-before teenager... Thankfully, mine was scared enough
that
> she drove like a little old grandma at a whopping 5 miles an hour!
(think:
> midnight, empty parking lot.)-=-
>
> Been there! <g>
>
> There used to be roads behind abandoned businesses and a big
parking lot near
> us which were deserted at night, and all three of my kids have
driven my van
> (an automatic) there. I've taught a couple of teens to drive (when
I was in
> my 20's, not my own kids <g>), and really enjoyed it.
>
> That's an idea, doing it ourselves!
>
> Sandra
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
The place everyone AND their brother (except me, my parents made me take
drivers ed at some new place close to home so I could--gasp--WALK!) is
still in business!
McGinnis School Of Driving
1521 Eubank Blvd NE ABQ NM 87112 (505) 294-1205
McGinnis School Of Driving
2745 San Mateo Blvd NE ABQ NM 87110 (505) 881-6466
McGinnis School Of Driving
9311 Coors Blvd NW ABQ NM 87114 (505) 897-1126
McGinnis School Of Driving
5701 Royal Oak Pl. NE ABQ NM 87111 (505) 821-0001
Mark took it at the one on Eubank, that's where my brother took it too,
and let me tell you, my brother didn't take any notes! I just asked
Mark and he said he didn't take a single note either!
Joylyn
ps, here is the website I found.
http://www.abqonline.com/directory/schools/driversed/
>Just checked on line and...
>
> Kirby put off driver's ed because he's afraid his handwriting isn't up to
> taking notes in class.
>
> Kirby (with the perfectionist tendencies) does LOTS of things, but not
> things he won't be good at. I'm pretty much the same way, so I
> understand it.
The place everyone AND their brother (except me, my parents made me take
drivers ed at some new place close to home so I could--gasp--WALK!) is
still in business!
McGinnis School Of Driving
1521 Eubank Blvd NE ABQ NM 87112 (505) 294-1205
McGinnis School Of Driving
2745 San Mateo Blvd NE ABQ NM 87110 (505) 881-6466
McGinnis School Of Driving
9311 Coors Blvd NW ABQ NM 87114 (505) 897-1126
McGinnis School Of Driving
5701 Royal Oak Pl. NE ABQ NM 87111 (505) 821-0001
Mark took it at the one on Eubank, that's where my brother took it too,
and let me tell you, my brother didn't take any notes! I just asked
Mark and he said he didn't take a single note either!
Joylyn
ps, here is the website I found.
http://www.abqonline.com/directory/schools/driversed/
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Just ask permission first -- many instructors get very ticked off at being
taped without their knowing it!
Kate -- very relieved to be in a country with driving age of 18:)
At 01:08 PM 8/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
taped without their knowing it!
Kate -- very relieved to be in a country with driving age of 18:)
At 01:08 PM 8/25/02 -0700, you wrote:
> Get him one of those little tape recorders. They are
> easy. Work great for any sort of lectur or seminars
> You
> can't see the visuals if you are looking at your
> hands.
> Sharon of the Swamp
>
>> Kirby put off driver's ed because he's afraid his
>> handwriting isn't up to
>> taking notes in class.
>>
>> (with the perfectionist tendencies) does LOTS
>> of things, but not
>> I'm pretty much the
>> same way, so I understand it.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>
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In a message dated 8/25/02 9:34:46 PM, suzanna.n@... writes:
<< I have two kids that went through drivers ed in NM. Neither of them
took a single note! >>
Thanks!
Just tonight (well, this morning to many of you, but I couldn't sleep) I was
reading the new HEM, and there's an ad in there for an online driver's ed
course. Hmmmm.... I'll look at that too. Scheduling is another
Kirby-problem, as he has a filled-up and lumpy schedule.
Sandra
<< I have two kids that went through drivers ed in NM. Neither of them
took a single note! >>
Thanks!
Just tonight (well, this morning to many of you, but I couldn't sleep) I was
reading the new HEM, and there's an ad in there for an online driver's ed
course. Hmmmm.... I'll look at that too. Scheduling is another
Kirby-problem, as he has a filled-up and lumpy schedule.
Sandra
Sharon Rudd
It is fun to teach kids to drive :-) Aren't there any
backroads? Out by the prairie-dog towns maybe?
Driver's Ed. is good for insurance discounts, but not
anything else that I can think of. He can come borrow
our dirt road. He will have to watch out for the other
unliscened learners, though, and for Brer Terrypin,
and don't go all the way to the sand-trap!
Roy sits on my lap to steer home. I work the peddles
and he does the rest. First he always gets the radio
station he prefers :-).
Sharon of the Swamp
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backroads? Out by the prairie-dog towns maybe?
Driver's Ed. is good for insurance discounts, but not
anything else that I can think of. He can come borrow
our dirt road. He will have to watch out for the other
unliscened learners, though, and for Brer Terrypin,
and don't go all the way to the sand-trap!
Roy sits on my lap to steer home. I work the peddles
and he does the rest. First he always gets the radio
station he prefers :-).
Sharon of the Swamp
--- SandraDodd@... wrote:
>__________________________________________________
> In a message dated 8/25/02 9:34:46 PM,
> suzanna.n@... writes:
>
> << I have two kids that went through drivers ed in
> NM. Neither of them
> took a single note! >>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Just tonight (well, this morning to many of you, but
> I couldn't sleep) I was
> reading the new HEM, and there's an ad in there for
> an online driver's ed
> course. Hmmmm.... I'll look at that too.
> Scheduling is another
> Kirby-problem, as he has a filled-up and lumpy
> schedule.
>
> Sandra
>
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My 16 yo ds is going to learn to drive here in Houston. I think if you can
drive here you can drive just about anywhere!!
Joy
drive here you can drive just about anywhere!!
Joy
Tia Leschke
>Lars is too big to sit on my lap (and no seatbelt) but he steers from the
>Roy sits on my lap to steer home. I work the peddles
>and he does the rest. First he always gets the radio
>station he prefers :-).
passenger seat. I keep one hand right around the steering wheel, ready to
tighten my grip and correct any mistakes, but I never have to. I think he
will be a good driver. It's quite a bit harder to steer from over there.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
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leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
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**Driver's Ed. is good for insurance discounts, but not anything else that I
can think of. **
Like almost everything having to do with laws on these national
(international!) lists, that varies. Here in Illinois, without passing state
licensed drivers ed a kid can't get a license until they're 18. To get a
permit before they're 17 years and 9 months old they must show proof of
current registration in a driver ed course.
Deborah in IL
can think of. **
Like almost everything having to do with laws on these national
(international!) lists, that varies. Here in Illinois, without passing state
licensed drivers ed a kid can't get a license until they're 18. To get a
permit before they're 17 years and 9 months old they must show proof of
current registration in a driver ed course.
Deborah in IL
Fetteroll
on 8/26/02 11:00 AM, GSmith8995@... at GSmith8995@... wrote:
all over the US agreed with me. Roads that branch off unexpectedly with no
signs. 7 way intersections. If you don't do at least 10 mph over the speed
limit you're like a rock in the river of traffic with cars passing on either
side. And if you're unsure of where you're going, other drivers are *not
kind*.
Joyce
> My 16 yo ds is going to learn to drive here in Houston. I think if you canNo, no, Boston's the worst! Lauara Derrick who lives in Texas and travels
> drive here you can drive just about anywhere!!
all over the US agreed with me. Roads that branch off unexpectedly with no
signs. 7 way intersections. If you don't do at least 10 mph over the speed
limit you're like a rock in the river of traffic with cars passing on either
side. And if you're unsure of where you're going, other drivers are *not
kind*.
Joyce
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/27/2002 4:34:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
fetteroll@... writes:
<< No, no, Boston's the worst! Lauara Derrick who lives in Texas and travels
all over the US agreed with me. Roads that branch off unexpectedly with no
signs. 7 way intersections. If you don't do at least 10 mph over the speed
limit you're like a rock in the river of traffic with cars passing on either
side. And if you're unsure of where you're going, other drivers are *not
kind*.
Houston!!............well maybe I'm just glad I don't have to deal with
Boston traffic. Yeah, that's it..........glad to live in Houston?? what was
I thinking?!!
Joy
Joy
fetteroll@... writes:
<< No, no, Boston's the worst! Lauara Derrick who lives in Texas and travels
all over the US agreed with me. Roads that branch off unexpectedly with no
signs. 7 way intersections. If you don't do at least 10 mph over the speed
limit you're like a rock in the river of traffic with cars passing on either
side. And if you're unsure of where you're going, other drivers are *not
kind*.
>>Well, this is the first time I've ever been glad I live in
Houston!!............well maybe I'm just glad I don't have to deal with
Boston traffic. Yeah, that's it..........glad to live in Houston?? what was
I thinking?!!
Joy
Joy
Kate Green
At 05:37 AM 8/27/02 -0400, you wrote:
can say that Abu Dhabi is about one of the worst. Take 10,000 illiterate
Afghanis and Pakistanis and make them taxi drivers and then add thousands
of millionaires in throw-away mercedes and jags and let me tell you it
creates slight havoc. We bought a 4-wheel drive out of necessity as you do
not want to be smaller than other people! People here haven't quite figured
out that whole white line thing of keeping your car in your own lane nor
have they figured out the speed limit signs or u-turns or anything else it
seems on some days!
Insurance is not for "if" you have an accident but "when."
Kate
> on 8/26/02 11:00 AM, GSmith8995@... at GSmith8995@... wrote:Well I'll have to argue this:) I've driven in many parts of the world but I
>
>> I think if you can
>> drive here you can drive just about anywhere!!
>
> No, no, Boston's the worst!
can say that Abu Dhabi is about one of the worst. Take 10,000 illiterate
Afghanis and Pakistanis and make them taxi drivers and then add thousands
of millionaires in throw-away mercedes and jags and let me tell you it
creates slight havoc. We bought a 4-wheel drive out of necessity as you do
not want to be smaller than other people! People here haven't quite figured
out that whole white line thing of keeping your car in your own lane nor
have they figured out the speed limit signs or u-turns or anything else it
seems on some days!
Insurance is not for "if" you have an accident but "when."
Kate
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/28/02 5:31:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
karegree@... writes:
bad.
~Nancy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
karegree@... writes:
> >> I think if you canTehran, Iran! Who ever honks first has the right of way. <g> now that was
> >> drive here you can drive just about anywhere!!
> >
> > No, no, Boston's the worst!
>
> Well I'll have to argue this:) I've driven in many parts of the world but I
> can say that Abu Dhabi is about one of the worst.
bad.
~Nancy
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Fetteroll
on 8/28/02 6:20 AM, Kate Green at karegree@... wrote:
heard horror stories of driving in Rome. Abu Dhabi sounds even worse. At
least people in Boston are aware of the laws they're breaking ;-)
Joyce
> Well I'll have to argue this:) I've driven in many parts of the world but IYour right! I was being very narrow minded thinking just of the US! I've
> can say that Abu Dhabi is about one of the worst.
heard horror stories of driving in Rome. Abu Dhabi sounds even worse. At
least people in Boston are aware of the laws they're breaking ;-)
Joyce
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/28/2002 8:43:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
Dnowens@... writes:
<< Tehran, Iran! Who ever honks first has the right of way. <g> now that was
bad. >>
Dnowens@... writes:
<< Tehran, Iran! Who ever honks first has the right of way. <g> now that was
bad. >>
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/28/2002 8:43:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
Dnowens@... writes:
<< Tehran, Iran! Who ever honks first has the right of way. <g> now that was
bad. >>
In Mobile (pronounced Mobeeeeel) Alabama, the old lady with the blue hair
driving the pink Cadillac has the right of way! I'm originally from this
area so I can say this. <g>
Joy
Dnowens@... writes:
<< Tehran, Iran! Who ever honks first has the right of way. <g> now that was
bad. >>
In Mobile (pronounced Mobeeeeel) Alabama, the old lady with the blue hair
driving the pink Cadillac has the right of way! I'm originally from this
area so I can say this. <g>
Joy
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/28/02 10:06:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< In Mobile (pronounced Mobeeeeel) Alabama, the old lady with the blue hair
driving the pink Cadillac has the right of way! I'm originally from this
area so I can say this. <g> >>
That should have a spew alert on it!!! Sheesh. Southern drivers are idiots.
No offense to any Southerners here...I'm technically a Southerner now.
I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!!
Anyway, I think our worst experience with crazy drivers was in Mexico.
We rode in the cabs and busses with white knuckles, praying for our lives at
every turn.
Scary.
Ren, only 45 minutes from Mobile (Mobeeeeeel)
[email protected] writes:
<< In Mobile (pronounced Mobeeeeel) Alabama, the old lady with the blue hair
driving the pink Cadillac has the right of way! I'm originally from this
area so I can say this. <g> >>
That should have a spew alert on it!!! Sheesh. Southern drivers are idiots.
No offense to any Southerners here...I'm technically a Southerner now.
I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!!
Anyway, I think our worst experience with crazy drivers was in Mexico.
We rode in the cabs and busses with white knuckles, praying for our lives at
every turn.
Scary.
Ren, only 45 minutes from Mobile (Mobeeeeeel)
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/28/2002 4:37:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< Southern drivers are idiots.
No offense to any Southerners here...I'm technically a Southerner now.
I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't
know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!! >>
And guess what?........we don't want to live in a big city either!! Thank
you very much.
Joy
A Southern Belle (a.k.a. an idiot)
starsuncloud@... writes:
<< Southern drivers are idiots.
No offense to any Southerners here...I'm technically a Southerner now.
I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't
know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!! >>
And guess what?........we don't want to live in a big city either!! Thank
you very much.
Joy
A Southern Belle (a.k.a. an idiot)
Kate Green
>There are some nasty places in Europe and around the world so I guess it's
> Your right! I was being very narrow minded thinking just of the US! I've
> heard horror stories of driving in Rome.
all relative (the old ladies in TN were pretty bad too:)
In Paris if you are crazy enough to get into the mass of traffic that heads
around the Arc de Triomphe then your insurance company won't cover you no
matter who's fault it is -- standard practice that all insurance ends the
minute you get into the circle.
Kate
Abu Dhabi sounds even worse. At
> least people in Boston are aware of the laws they're breaking ;-)
>
> Joyce
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They have lights (to let traffic on the freeway in a scattered? is the
word?) at the end of the on ramps here in california. They do not in
New Mexico. The first itme I saw them I was a bit concerned. My
brother in law had clued me in and I still didn't get it. It was
unnerving.
Driving in New Mexico is also an interesting experience. I feel I
should have a sticker on my car that says "Native New Mexican!" They
very much have a manana approach to life, although I think that is
changing a bit. Sadly.
joylyn
Fetteroll wrote:
word?) at the end of the on ramps here in california. They do not in
New Mexico. The first itme I saw them I was a bit concerned. My
brother in law had clued me in and I still didn't get it. It was
unnerving.
Driving in New Mexico is also an interesting experience. I feel I
should have a sticker on my car that says "Native New Mexican!" They
very much have a manana approach to life, although I think that is
changing a bit. Sadly.
joylyn
Fetteroll wrote:
> on 8/28/02 5:35 PM, starsuncloud@... at starsuncloud@... wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> > I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and
> don't know
> > how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try
> to enter
> > the highways. ARGH!!
>
> In Pittsburgh, at least when I was growing up, they had stop signs at the
> end of entrance ramps! My father came up to visit us when we first
> moved up
> to Boston and I had to yell at him when he automatically slowed down
> at the
> end of a ramp. *Especially* not good in Boston. Yikes!
>
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on 8/28/02 5:35 PM, starsuncloud@... at starsuncloud@... wrote:
end of entrance ramps! My father came up to visit us when we first moved up
to Boston and I had to yell at him when he automatically slowed down at the
end of a ramp. *Especially* not good in Boston. Yikes!
Joyce
> I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't knowIn Pittsburgh, at least when I was growing up, they had stop signs at the
> how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
> the highways. ARGH!!
end of entrance ramps! My father came up to visit us when we first moved up
to Boston and I had to yell at him when he automatically slowed down at the
end of a ramp. *Especially* not good in Boston. Yikes!
Joyce
[email protected]
<<I'm talking about the ones that have never lived in a big city and don't
know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!! >>
They are all here in DC too.
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
know
how to use freeway ramps, the ones that slow to a crawl as they try to enter
the highways. ARGH!! >>
They are all here in DC too.
~Elissa Cleaveland
An unlesson'd girl, unschool'd, unpractic'd;
Happy in this, she is not so old
But she may learn.
W.S. The Merchant of Venice III, ii, 160
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/29/02 2:54:37 AM, fetteroll@... writes:
<< In Pittsburgh, at least when I was growing up, they had stop signs at the
end of entrance ramps! My father came up to visit us when we first moved up
to Boston and I had to yell at him when he automatically slowed down at the
end of a ramp. >>
I was surprised when I first got to ramp lights in California. In New
Mexico, "merge" means "get in there and DO IT," but here were RED lights
which put the merger at a great disadvantage over the mergees <g>.
(I'm joking, don't eveybody give me a right-of-way lecture, I'm all lectured
out already and it's only 7:34 in the morning and it's going to be a rough
SCA day.)
Sandra
<< In Pittsburgh, at least when I was growing up, they had stop signs at the
end of entrance ramps! My father came up to visit us when we first moved up
to Boston and I had to yell at him when he automatically slowed down at the
end of a ramp. >>
I was surprised when I first got to ramp lights in California. In New
Mexico, "merge" means "get in there and DO IT," but here were RED lights
which put the merger at a great disadvantage over the mergees <g>.
(I'm joking, don't eveybody give me a right-of-way lecture, I'm all lectured
out already and it's only 7:34 in the morning and it's going to be a rough
SCA day.)
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/29/02 3:00:25 AM, joylyn@... writes:
<< Driving in New Mexico is also an interesting experience. I feel I
should have a sticker on my car that says "Native New Mexican!" They
very much have a manana approach to life, although I think that is
changing a bit. Sadly.
lights, and the roads were ancient donkey-cart farm roads along tiny rivers
and irrigation ditches, around big trees, etc., people didn't bother to
signal if they were turning at their own road or driveway. Why should they
tell you they're turning if you would totally EXPECT them to turn at their
own house?
And many of the roads were dead end roads anyway, basically (or not through
streets anyway) so if someone was on Chimayo road, or San Pedro, or some
residential kind of thing, they will turn in an obvious place, and so other
drivers should be aware. Store? Church? School? People will be turning.
Their own house? Of course.
So turn signals were used on the highway, or if you were turning
"unexpectedly" into a place you didn't usually go.
Sandra
<< Driving in New Mexico is also an interesting experience. I feel I
should have a sticker on my car that says "Native New Mexican!" They
very much have a manana approach to life, although I think that is
changing a bit. Sadly.
>>In my home town, learning to drive in the 1960s where there were NO traffic
lights, and the roads were ancient donkey-cart farm roads along tiny rivers
and irrigation ditches, around big trees, etc., people didn't bother to
signal if they were turning at their own road or driveway. Why should they
tell you they're turning if you would totally EXPECT them to turn at their
own house?
And many of the roads were dead end roads anyway, basically (or not through
streets anyway) so if someone was on Chimayo road, or San Pedro, or some
residential kind of thing, they will turn in an obvious place, and so other
drivers should be aware. Store? Church? School? People will be turning.
Their own house? Of course.
So turn signals were used on the highway, or if you were turning
"unexpectedly" into a place you didn't usually go.
Sandra
Nancy Wooton
on 8/29/02 6:41 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
though. (At least in San Diego, I probably should add!) Most of the time,
you hit the gas and hope your Ford Escort can get to 65 by the end of the
ramp, and that there isn't a bluehair in a Lexus in the lane when you get
there (if it's my mom, she'll be doing 80 and run you down - not all
bluehairs drive slow!)
When I was a teen, Mom loved to drive the old station wagon out on the high
desert's bumpy dirt roads and see how much air she could get -- she called
it an E ticket ride!
Nancy
> I was surprised when I first got to ramp lights in California. In NewThe lights are only in operation during morning and evening rush hour crawl,
> Mexico, "merge" means "get in there and DO IT," but here were RED lights
> which put the merger at a great disadvantage over the mergees <g>.
though. (At least in San Diego, I probably should add!) Most of the time,
you hit the gas and hope your Ford Escort can get to 65 by the end of the
ramp, and that there isn't a bluehair in a Lexus in the lane when you get
there (if it's my mom, she'll be doing 80 and run you down - not all
bluehairs drive slow!)
When I was a teen, Mom loved to drive the old station wagon out on the high
desert's bumpy dirt roads and see how much air she could get -- she called
it an E ticket ride!
Nancy
Pam Hartley
They're called metering lights, and in many areas (notably the Silicon
Valley) when they're in operation the freeway traffic is slow-to-stopped
anyway (as Nancy said, they're used mainly during rush hours) so merging is
not a problem. <g>
Pam, glad to be in a town with no metering lights and hoping to move even
further from the nasty creatures and the traffic they're attracted to
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From: Nancy Wooton <ikonstitcher@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] fear of failure
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2002, 7:58 AM
though. (At least in San Diego, I probably should add!) Most of the time,
you hit the gas and hope your Ford Escort can get to 65 by the end of the
ramp, and that there isn't a bluehair in a Lexus in the lane when you get
there (if it's my mom, she'll be doing 80 and run you down - not all
bluehairs drive slow!)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Valley) when they're in operation the freeway traffic is slow-to-stopped
anyway (as Nancy said, they're used mainly during rush hours) so merging is
not a problem. <g>
Pam, glad to be in a town with no metering lights and hoping to move even
further from the nasty creatures and the traffic they're attracted to
----------
From: Nancy Wooton <ikonstitcher@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] fear of failure
Date: Thu, Aug 29, 2002, 7:58 AM
> I was surprised when I first got to ramp lights in California. In NewThe lights are only in operation during morning and evening rush hour crawl,
> Mexico, "merge" means "get in there and DO IT," but here were RED lights
> which put the merger at a great disadvantage over the mergees <g>.
though. (At least in San Diego, I probably should add!) Most of the time,
you hit the gas and hope your Ford Escort can get to 65 by the end of the
ramp, and that there isn't a bluehair in a Lexus in the lane when you get
there (if it's my mom, she'll be doing 80 and run you down - not all
bluehairs drive slow!)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
gruvystarchild
"merge" means "get in there and DO IT,"
This is how I like it!! There are some on ramps here where it is
imperative that you hustle, and some people just don't get it. I had
to delivery drive in Portland, OR for a while so I really got the
hang of hustling. Although there are some metering lights there too
(which I hated, but were necessary evils).
Ren
This is how I like it!! There are some on ramps here where it is
imperative that you hustle, and some people just don't get it. I had
to delivery drive in Portland, OR for a while so I really got the
hang of hustling. Although there are some metering lights there too
(which I hated, but were necessary evils).
Ren