Woodcraft Folk
Cottonwood Farm
I just read a post from someone from the UK and she mentioned Woodcraft Folk-a scout-like (well sort of) organization. I have been looking for alternatives to the girl scout / boy scout organizations and decided to check out the Woodcraft Folk site. WOW! An amazing organization....non-competitive, globally oriented, welcoming of all family members, in tune with the cycles of the earth. The sad part is they don't operate in the USA. If anyone knows of a similar organization in the USA please let me know.
catherine in NM
catherine in NM
----- Original Message -----
From: Betsy
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Family Life
>>Yesterday Marty showed me his pubic hair. Yes, I twinged too.
It was on his upper lip. He said, "Look, mom; pubic hair" and indicated
moustache stuff. Holly and I acted appropriately shocked and averted our
eyes and squealed and said "Don't Show Us! It's not right" and such. But
he
said he figures leg hairiness, underarm hair and moustache are all pubic
hair
because he got them from puberty.
eeek!
Sandra<<
A fine opportunity to drop in a little historical trivia. Remember the
Clarence Thomas conformation hearings? Anita Hill testified that he
made a tasteless joke about pubic hair, saying he had found one on his
can of soda? The media went kind of crazy saying "pubic hair" over and
over, like they were little kids having fun grossing out their friends.
But I'm pretty sure the underlying story was that he had just used a
hair from his head for an opportunity for some obnoxious adolescent humor.
Confirmation hearings for presidential appointments can be such a circus!
Everything is educational!
Do I even WANT to know if pubic hair has any other entries in the great
encyclopedia of history? Maybe not!
Betsy
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kayb85
Actually, if you look into Girl Scouts, the girls are *supposed* to
pretty much decide what activities they do, what badges they earn,
and how they spend the money they make on cookies. Of course the
older they get, the more freedom they're supposed to get. For
example, Brownie meetings (grades 1-3) are usually pre-planned by the
leader but the juniors (grades 4-6)are supposed to start planning a
lot of what they do on their own.
It is very easy to become a girl scout leader. If you tell them you
want a troop, they'll give it to you and you'll have girls signed up
almost immediately. At least that's how it is in my area--they seem
to be very short on leaders. If you want a girl scout troop that is
not authoritarian, you could have that kind of troop.
What I don't like about it is that it is only for girls, not their
families. I have a daughter who wants to have fun meeting girls her
age but of course I always have to have my boys tag along with me and
I don't want them only hanging out with girls.
Maybe we could create our own unschool-family friendly-non
authoritarian scout group!
Sheila
pretty much decide what activities they do, what badges they earn,
and how they spend the money they make on cookies. Of course the
older they get, the more freedom they're supposed to get. For
example, Brownie meetings (grades 1-3) are usually pre-planned by the
leader but the juniors (grades 4-6)are supposed to start planning a
lot of what they do on their own.
It is very easy to become a girl scout leader. If you tell them you
want a troop, they'll give it to you and you'll have girls signed up
almost immediately. At least that's how it is in my area--they seem
to be very short on leaders. If you want a girl scout troop that is
not authoritarian, you could have that kind of troop.
What I don't like about it is that it is only for girls, not their
families. I have a daughter who wants to have fun meeting girls her
age but of course I always have to have my boys tag along with me and
I don't want them only hanging out with girls.
Maybe we could create our own unschool-family friendly-non
authoritarian scout group!
Sheila
--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., "Cottonwood Farm" <angus@a...> wrote:
> I just read a post from someone from the UK and she mentioned
Woodcraft Folk-a scout-like (well sort of) organization. I have been
looking for alternatives to the girl scout / boy scout organizations
and decided to check out the Woodcraft Folk site. WOW! An amazing
organization....non-competitive, globally oriented, welcoming of all
family members, in tune with the cycles of the earth. The sad part
is they don't operate in the USA. If anyone knows of a similar
organization in the USA please let me know.
> catherine in NM
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In a message dated 8/11/2002 5:09:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sheran@...
writes:
why do Girl Scouts? Why not do Campfire Boys and Girls or 4-H? Girl Scouts
really IS for girls only - intentionally.
--pam
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writes:
> What I don't like about it is that it is only for girls, not theirSorry - coming in late -- but if you want boys and girls in the same group,
> families. I have a daughter who wants to have fun meeting girls her
> age but of course I always have to have my boys tag along with me and
> I don't want them only hanging out with girls.
>
> Maybe we could create our own unschool-family friendly-non
> authoritarian scout group!
why do Girl Scouts? Why not do Campfire Boys and Girls or 4-H? Girl Scouts
really IS for girls only - intentionally.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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Joylyn
Girl scouts are very much in need of leaders. I run a very relaxed
troop and we have a lot of fun. I try to let the girls make most of the
decisions, with me only guiding. I have brownies--ages 6-8 or 9 (1st -
3rd grade).
You do have to take training, but it's not horrid.
Joylyn
kayb85 wrote:
troop and we have a lot of fun. I try to let the girls make most of the
decisions, with me only guiding. I have brownies--ages 6-8 or 9 (1st -
3rd grade).
You do have to take training, but it's not horrid.
Joylyn
kayb85 wrote:
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> Actually, if you look into Girl Scouts, the girls are *supposed* to
> pretty much decide what activities they do, what badges they earn,
> and how they spend the money they make on cookies. Of course the
> older they get, the more freedom they're supposed to get. For
> example, Brownie meetings (grades 1-3) are usually pre-planned by the
> leader but the juniors (grades 4-6)are supposed to start planning a
> lot of what they do on their own.
>
> It is very easy to become a girl scout leader. If you tell them you
> want a troop, they'll give it to you and you'll have girls signed up
> almost immediately. At least that's how it is in my area--they seem
> to be very short on leaders. If you want a girl scout troop that is
> not authoritarian, you could have that kind of troop.
>
> What I don't like about it is that it is only for girls, not their
> families. I have a daughter who wants to have fun meeting girls her
> age but of course I always have to have my boys tag along with me and
> I don't want them only hanging out with girls.
>
> Maybe we could create our own unschool-family friendly-non
> authoritarian scout group!
>
> Sheila
>
> --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., "Cottonwood Farm" <angus@a...> wrote:
> > I just read a post from someone from the UK and she mentioned
> Woodcraft Folk-a scout-like (well sort of) organization. I have been
> looking for alternatives to the girl scout / boy scout organizations
> and decided to check out the Woodcraft Folk site. WOW! An amazing
> organization....non-competitive, globally oriented, welcoming of all
> family members, in tune with the cycles of the earth. The sad part
> is they don't operate in the USA. If anyone knows of a similar
> organization in the USA please let me know.
> > catherine in NM
>
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kayb85
> Sorry - coming in late -- but if you want boys and girls in thesame group,
> why do Girl Scouts? Why not do Campfire Boys and Girls or 4-H? GirlScouts
> really IS for girls only - intentionally.We don't have campfire boys and girls around here. A 4-H group just
started but it's not a group of kids getting together to hang out and
decide on fun activities to do together. They are doing nature
journals and each child is trying to recreate a bird's nest. That's
fine if you want to do that kind of activity, but dd didn't find
nature journals and bird nest making to be activities that she wanted
to devote time to.
What would be ideal would be to get a group of homeschooled kids
together to do that kind of thing. It seems hard to get
homeschoolers together for that sort of thing sometimes, but I would
like to see us get together and ask the kids what kind of activities
they want to do together.
Sheila
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In a message dated 8/11/2002 7:36:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sheran@...
writes:
informational resources -- but you could use those anyway, of course. Boy
Scouts has these great little booklets on every subject in the world, for
example. Girl Scout badge books have a lot of ideas of things to do.
Otherwise -- the best way I've found to get hsed kids together for any kind
of activities is to make some offers to a few kids and see if they bite.
Sometimes you have to do the activity once or twice just to give them the
idea of what they're getting into.Think about the kids and think about what
you think they might enjoy. I run a Destination Imagination group here --
it is a combination of improvisational theater and structure building
challenges. I thought that there were kids that would like those two
different aspects - some liking improv more than the structure stuff and vice
versa, and I was right. They loved it last year and we're doing it again this
year. Lots of times just asking what activities they want to do isn't enough-
they don't really know what they COULD do. I like "demo" days -- everybody
knows it is a one-shot deal and they're aren't committing to anything by
trying it out one time.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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writes:
> What would be ideal would be to get a group of homeschooled kidsOf the already-organized groups, the advantage is lots of pretty nice
> together to do that kind of thing. It seems hard to get
> homeschoolers together for that sort of thing sometimes, but I would
> like to see us get together and ask the kids what kind of activities
> they want to do together.
informational resources -- but you could use those anyway, of course. Boy
Scouts has these great little booklets on every subject in the world, for
example. Girl Scout badge books have a lot of ideas of things to do.
Otherwise -- the best way I've found to get hsed kids together for any kind
of activities is to make some offers to a few kids and see if they bite.
Sometimes you have to do the activity once or twice just to give them the
idea of what they're getting into.Think about the kids and think about what
you think they might enjoy. I run a Destination Imagination group here --
it is a combination of improvisational theater and structure building
challenges. I thought that there were kids that would like those two
different aspects - some liking improv more than the structure stuff and vice
versa, and I was right. They loved it last year and we're doing it again this
year. Lots of times just asking what activities they want to do isn't enough-
they don't really know what they COULD do. I like "demo" days -- everybody
knows it is a one-shot deal and they're aren't committing to anything by
trying it out one time.
--pam
National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
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