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Does anyone know any good tricks for helping someone learn to roll their
r's? The only one I know is saying "butter" over and over really fast
until it just happens, but that hasn't helped the person I know who wants
to be able to do this. I've also talked about where I out my tongue when
I do it, and sort of explained what happens, but that hasn't worked
either.
TIA,
Dar
r's? The only one I know is saying "butter" over and over really fast
until it just happens, but that hasn't helped the person I know who wants
to be able to do this. I've also talked about where I out my tongue when
I do it, and sort of explained what happens, but that hasn't worked
either.
TIA,
Dar
Joylyn
And my question is... why does one need to roll their "r's"?
I've never learned to do it. Beyond a problem with Spanish (which
unfortunately will not be cured with this ability) it's never bothered
me.
I have heard on lacnet that a tight frelinium (I can't spell it and
spell check isn't helping--tongue tied..?) may cause this problem.
Joylyn
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I've never learned to do it. Beyond a problem with Spanish (which
unfortunately will not be cured with this ability) it's never bothered
me.
I have heard on lacnet that a tight frelinium (I can't spell it and
spell check isn't helping--tongue tied..?) may cause this problem.
Joylyn
freeform@... wrote:
> Does anyone know any good tricks for helping someone learn to rollADVERTISEMENT
> their
> r's? The only one I know is saying "butter" over and over really fast
> until it just happens, but that hasn't helped the person I know who
> wants
> to be able to do this. I've also talked about where I out my tongue
> when
> I do it, and sort of explained what happens, but that hasn't worked
> either.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dar
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I should add, I saw speech therapists for years as a child, I couldn't
pronouce my "r's" or "l's" at all, until i was in mid school. And I
learned myself. When I was in the 5th grade my m&d said no more
therapy, i would do it when it was important, and I did. Unless I'm
drunk or on benadryl or muscle relaxing drugs or when I smoked pot (in
high school) I can usually say my "r's and "l's" now. Not that I get
drunk often these days and I haven't smoked pot in years, but I still
have to take care to say certain words correctly. I believe it was the
word "purse" that finally made me a. work hard to say my "r's"correctly
and b. made me NEVER use that word. Even today I generally say
anything else. Just imagine a middle school girl asking a bunch of her
mean spirited peers to hand "me my purse" with out the "r" and you'll
see why. But anyway, while I can say my r's now, I cannot nor do I even
attempt to roll them. To me it's enough that I can say purse without
raised eyebrows.
Joylyn
Joylyn wrote:
pronouce my "r's" or "l's" at all, until i was in mid school. And I
learned myself. When I was in the 5th grade my m&d said no more
therapy, i would do it when it was important, and I did. Unless I'm
drunk or on benadryl or muscle relaxing drugs or when I smoked pot (in
high school) I can usually say my "r's and "l's" now. Not that I get
drunk often these days and I haven't smoked pot in years, but I still
have to take care to say certain words correctly. I believe it was the
word "purse" that finally made me a. work hard to say my "r's"correctly
and b. made me NEVER use that word. Even today I generally say
anything else. Just imagine a middle school girl asking a bunch of her
mean spirited peers to hand "me my purse" with out the "r" and you'll
see why. But anyway, while I can say my r's now, I cannot nor do I even
attempt to roll them. To me it's enough that I can say purse without
raised eyebrows.
Joylyn
Joylyn wrote:
> And my question is... why does one need to roll their "r's"?ADVERTISEMENT
>
> I've never learned to do it. Beyond a problem with Spanish (which
> unfortunately will not be cured with this ability) it's never bothered
>
> me.
>
> I have heard on lacnet that a tight frelinium (I can't spell it and
> spell check isn't helping--tongue tied..?) may cause this problem.
>
> Joylyn
>
> freeform@... wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know any good tricks for helping someone learn to roll
> > their
> > r's? The only one I know is saying "butter" over and over really
> fast
> > until it just happens, but that hasn't helped the person I know who
> > wants
> > to be able to do this. I've also talked about where I out my tongue
> > when
> > I do it, and sort of explained what happens, but that hasn't worked
> > either.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Dar
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Oh! From "Singing In The Rain" --Round and round the rugged rock the
ragged rascal ran. --
If it doesn't help you roll your R's it will surely kill all warm
feelings for old movie stars.
Deb L
ragged rascal ran. --
If it doesn't help you roll your R's it will surely kill all warm
feelings for old movie stars.
Deb L
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I always thought rolling r's was an "inborn thang", like attached or detached
ear lobes. :)
Joy
ear lobes. :)
Joy
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In a message dated 7/30/02 8:12:54 AM, GSmith8995@... writes:
<< I always thought rolling r's was an "inborn thang", like attached or
detached
ear lobes. :) >>
"They" say (researchers) that every baby can make every sound of every
language on the planet and they do so. And then their parents, speakers of a
language or two or three, will light up and be approving of those that sound
like the target language, and will ignore or discourage what doesn't sound
like it. And so the babies practice and perfect the "right" sounds and the
wrongs sounds are sometimes extinguished.
So if you have babies, play with all kinds of sounds. That gurgly French
thing, that Navajo "ts" that sounds like Doctor Evil shushing someone (Austin
Powers reference so early in the morning...), the click that's needed for
whichever African language, the hoik Germans need...
Sandra
<< I always thought rolling r's was an "inborn thang", like attached or
detached
ear lobes. :) >>
"They" say (researchers) that every baby can make every sound of every
language on the planet and they do so. And then their parents, speakers of a
language or two or three, will light up and be approving of those that sound
like the target language, and will ignore or discourage what doesn't sound
like it. And so the babies practice and perfect the "right" sounds and the
wrongs sounds are sometimes extinguished.
So if you have babies, play with all kinds of sounds. That gurgly French
thing, that Navajo "ts" that sounds like Doctor Evil shushing someone (Austin
Powers reference so early in the morning...), the click that's needed for
whichever African language, the hoik Germans need...
Sandra
meghan anderson
on 7/30/02 12:15 AM, [email protected] at
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out and go 'pthhh' (?), then try to do it inside your mouth. Your tongue
has the same fast movement that creates the vibration needed to roll r's.
Once they get the vibration thing down then the r sound (from the throat)
can be combined with it and tada you have rolling r's. This technique
worked for a friend of mine.
Meghan
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."
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[email protected] wrote:
> Does anyone know any good tricks for helping someone learn to roll theirYou could try getting them to practice the thing when you stick your tongue
> r's? The only one I know is saying "butter" over and over really fast
> until it just happens, but that hasn't helped the person I know who wants
> to be able to do this. I've also talked about where I out my tongue when
> I do it, and sort of explained what happens, but that hasn't worked
> either.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dar
out and go 'pthhh' (?), then try to do it inside your mouth. Your tongue
has the same fast movement that creates the vibration needed to roll r's.
Once they get the vibration thing down then the r sound (from the throat)
can be combined with it and tada you have rolling r's. This technique
worked for a friend of mine.
Meghan
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."
~ Benjamin Franklin
Shelly G
Well, when I was in college and taking Spanish, I was
the only one in my small class that could not roll her
R's. I'd never been able to do it.
I had a 45 minute commute each way to college, so I
practiced in the car, just pushing out the rrrrr sound
and trying to roll it. Over and over and over. I must
have looked kooky driving along the highway like that
:)
Eventually, I got it! It just took a lot of
repetition, and since I had plenty of time on my
hands, I got it.
Of course, I've since forgotten almost all the Spanish
I learned in college and have little use for the skill
anymore, but (I just checked), I can still do it!
Good luck :)
Shelly
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the only one in my small class that could not roll her
R's. I'd never been able to do it.
I had a 45 minute commute each way to college, so I
practiced in the car, just pushing out the rrrrr sound
and trying to roll it. Over and over and over. I must
have looked kooky driving along the highway like that
:)
Eventually, I got it! It just took a lot of
repetition, and since I had plenty of time on my
hands, I got it.
Of course, I've since forgotten almost all the Spanish
I learned in college and have little use for the skill
anymore, but (I just checked), I can still do it!
Good luck :)
Shelly
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> at
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> > Does anyone know any good tricks for helping
> someone learn to roll their
> > r's?
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on 7/30/02 10:42 AM, Shelly G at shellyrae00@... wrote:
the back of your throat, not with the tip of the tongue. I liked Sandra's
"the hoik Germans need... " although that's for ch sounds, if I remember
correctly.
Nancy
--
The appropriately beautiful or ugly sound of any word is an illusion wrought
on us by what the word connotes.
--Max Beerbohm, writer, critic, and caricaturist (1872-1956)
> Well, when I was in college and taking Spanish, I wasThe gutteral R for German is much harder to learn. You have to roll it in
> the only one in my small class that could not roll her
> R's.
the back of your throat, not with the tip of the tongue. I liked Sandra's
"the hoik Germans need... " although that's for ch sounds, if I remember
correctly.
Nancy
--
The appropriately beautiful or ugly sound of any word is an illusion wrought
on us by what the word connotes.
--Max Beerbohm, writer, critic, and caricaturist (1872-1956)
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
physical problems such as a tied tongue.
Dr. Palmer has a lot to say about this and breastfeeding.. go to
www.drbrianpalmer.com
Joylyn
>I think this is probably true with the exception of children who have
> In a message dated 7/30/02 8:12:54 AM, GSmith8995@... writes:
>
> << I always thought rolling r's was an "inborn thang", like attached
> or
> detached
> ear lobes. :) >>
>
> "They" say (researchers) that every baby can make every sound of every
>
> language on the planet and they do so.
physical problems such as a tied tongue.
Dr. Palmer has a lot to say about this and breastfeeding.. go to
www.drbrianpalmer.com
Joylyn
> And then their parents, speakers of aADVERTISEMENT
> language or two or three, will light up and be approving of those that
> sound
> like the target language, and will ignore or discourage what doesn't
> sound
> like it. And so the babies practice and perfect the "right" sounds
> and the
> wrongs sounds are sometimes extinguished.
>
> So if you have babies, play with all kinds of sounds. That gurgly
> French
> thing, that Navajo "ts" that sounds like Doctor Evil shushing someone
> (Austin
> Powers reference so early in the morning...), the click that's needed
> for
> whichever African language, the hoik Germans need...
>
> Sandra
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:11:04 -0700 Joylyn <joylyn@...> writes:
when one is pretending that she came from Ireland, it would be authenic.
Plus you never know when a play with an Irish character may come around.
The New Jersey accent is coming in very handy right now...
Dar
> And my question is... why does one need to roll their "r's"?Because one wishes to speak with an Irish accent, of course :-) So that
>
when one is pretending that she came from Ireland, it would be authenic.
Plus you never know when a play with an Irish character may come around.
The New Jersey accent is coming in very handy right now...
Dar
Joylyn
oh. Well, good luck! I guess I would just have an unauthentic irish
accent.
joylyn
freeform@... wrote:
accent.
joylyn
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> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:11:04 -0700 Joylyn <joylyn@...>
> writes:
> > And my question is... why does one need to roll their "r's"?
> >
> Because one wishes to speak with an Irish accent, of course :-) So
> that
> when one is pretending that she came from Ireland, it would be
> authenic.
>
> Plus you never know when a play with an Irish character may come
> around.
> The New Jersey accent is coming in very handy right now...
>
> Dar
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> <<The gutteral R for German is much harder to learn.>>Ooo, not for me. The German R and the French R are a cinch--it's that
pesky Spanish one--not the "r", but the "rrrrrrr".
I can easily say "Roberto" with one "roll" on each of the r's, but I
think that second "r" should be a long roll, and that I can't seem to
bring it from the back of my throat to the front (YET).
My older daughter's boyfriend (manfriend, significant other) is Hispanic
(grandparents from both sides are from Puerto Rico) and he was born
"tongue-tied" and was never able to do those long rolls either. He had
surgery to correct his tongue a couple of years ago--I'll have to ask
him if he can rrrrrrrroll now.
Susan
Kate Green
The kh sound in Arabic has to be one of the nastiest to learn. I have given
up even trying with some of the sounds as I just end up coughing in a nasty
way:)
Kate
At 11:37 PM 7/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
up even trying with some of the sounds as I just end up coughing in a nasty
way:)
Kate
At 11:37 PM 7/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
> ><<>>
>
> Ooo, not for me. The German R and the French R are a cinch--it's that
>"""".
>
>"""" on each of the r's, but I
>"" should be a long roll, and that I can't seem to
> bring it from the back of my throat to the front (YET).
>
> My older daughter's boyfriend (manfriend, significant other) is Hispanic
> (grandparents from both sides are from Puerto Rico) and he was born
>"" and was never able to do those long rolls either. He had
> surgery to correct his tongue a couple of years ago--I'll have to ask
> him if he can rrrrrrrroll now.
>
> Susan
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