truth to shine light on lies
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A nice homeschooling mom is being harrassed because she invited me to speak
at a conference one state from where I live. Those harrassing her are MANY
states away and weren't considering going to her conference anyway.
That's not right, but it happened.
Now on a mailing list I had never heard of, someone has told a lie about me
and about THIS list.
That's not right, but it happened.
I do not want this list to turn into a discussion of other lists. That would
be a drag. But I don't want this list providing fodder for lies for other
lists either. That I can't control, but I can put forth the truth. Holly
Furgason has been harrassed because another list or two has a very few people
who enjoy badmouthing me and wanting to "get at" me. It's immature and
probably bordering on actionable by now. I would like for it to stop. If
anyone has ideas for a simple solution, please e-mail me on the side at
SandraDodd.com.
Below is the false report and then a letter which was mailed this morning
which can be quoted on any list people want to send it to. I'm tired of
being lied about. If any of you are on lists where I'm being badmouthed,
please ask the people to live their own lives and give their own best advice.
Except for replacing DJ Brewer's business mail address with her personal one
at her request, this is untouched. It is addressed to conference
coordinators, liasons, and those quoted and affected and was mailed because I
was sent a copy of Sarah's letter below.
--------------------------
Subj: Holly did NOT send me the "boycott letter"
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:12:38 AM
From: SandraDodd
To: [DJ of Texas@...], Kbcdlovejo, fetteroll@...,
HEM-Editor@..., PSoroosh, furgfam@...,
puddles@..., SandraDodd
For the record, Holly Furgason neither sent me a copy of the letter NOR did
she tell me who wrote it. She only told me that there was threat of a
national boycott, with no names. These words exactly: " There's national
movement to boycott my conference because of you. I am hearing a lot of good
stuff about you too
though." I assumed wrongly that it had been Lynda until I saw a copy of what
had been posted to the unschooling families list. It was shown to me by
other people, but MANY people have seen it. As far as I know, Holly didn't
send it out to anyone.
I was sent a copy of DJ Brewer's letter. It was not hateful. I've included
it below for those who did not see it. DJ knows me personally, and lives in
Houston. For expressing her opinion directly to the one threatening
boycott, she has been falsely and cruelly depicted IN PUBLIC in the post
below.
Sandra
Subj: [unschoolingfamilies] I'm out of here...
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:57:05 AM
From: puddles@...
To: [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected]
From: puddles@... (Sarah Carothers)
Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected] (Unschoolingfamilies@Yahoogroups.
Com), [email protected], [email protected]
With all the commotion over the boycott letter I sent to Holly (which she
forwarded to Sandra and apparently every Texas homeschooler she
knows...DJBrewer, Tanya, etc.), I'm getting hateful mail from every fan of SD
on the planet. Rather than stick around and read these poslindly follow those
types as if they have a ring in their noses, WAITING to be led around. There
are way too many people supporting her to try to effect a change with just a
few of us willing to stick our necks out and speak up. So many people who
disagree with her and her tactics (and there ARE quite a few) would rather
just leave and go about unschooling solo.... forget about trying to help new
people to unschooling; forget about trying to create a movement that
represents ALL our voices, not just the loudest.
Well, I guess these silent people have the right idea by just dropping out of
the picture because sticking my neck out hasn't done a bit of good.
Wishing you all the best and lotsa luck in your endeavors~
Regards,
Sarah
"Don't wrestle with pigs--you both get dirty and the pig likes it."
----------------
DJ's letter to Sarah:
Subj: howdy fellow homeschooler
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:19:13 AM
From: [DJ of Texas@...]
To: SandraDodd@...
Dear Sarah,
Howdy. I am a homeschooling mother of four in the Houston area. I am
planning to attend the conference you were metioning, and I was very
surprised at your letter's description of Sandra Dodd. (it was sent to
me by another homeschooling friend who is attending the conference)
I know Sandra Dodd personally, and have never found her to have an "in
your face" "slap you upside the head" approach at all.
Did ya'll have some kind of run in or something?
I personally was offended by you telling people that they should not
attend -- it makes you sound like some sort of censor to what should or
shouldn't be done or learned or something.
I have a sister in Lubbock. I dont see how a trip there would in any
way facilitate a trip to Houston. I am a 12 hour drive away from my
sister. Of course, one could fly from Lubbock to Houston, but
thankfully, you wont need to.
I am sorry to have to say this, but I found your letter nothing more
than a thinly veiled attempt to loose some vitriolic diatribe against a
very decent person.
I mean, its fine if you dont like someone, but why use your own personal
prejudice and foist it upon others, just because you dont like a
particular speaker's method. Why not let others find out for
themselves. If Sandra is truly as bad as you say, let her hang herself
with her own rope. There is no need for you to waste time or energy on
such an endevor.
I hope you have a wonderful homeschooling life. Please allow others to
do so always. Let's not block the path of learning with petty
personality differences.
Sincerely
DJ Brewer
at a conference one state from where I live. Those harrassing her are MANY
states away and weren't considering going to her conference anyway.
That's not right, but it happened.
Now on a mailing list I had never heard of, someone has told a lie about me
and about THIS list.
That's not right, but it happened.
I do not want this list to turn into a discussion of other lists. That would
be a drag. But I don't want this list providing fodder for lies for other
lists either. That I can't control, but I can put forth the truth. Holly
Furgason has been harrassed because another list or two has a very few people
who enjoy badmouthing me and wanting to "get at" me. It's immature and
probably bordering on actionable by now. I would like for it to stop. If
anyone has ideas for a simple solution, please e-mail me on the side at
SandraDodd.com.
Below is the false report and then a letter which was mailed this morning
which can be quoted on any list people want to send it to. I'm tired of
being lied about. If any of you are on lists where I'm being badmouthed,
please ask the people to live their own lives and give their own best advice.
> From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>-------------------------
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:23:37 -0700
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [The_Unschooling_Forum] I'm out of here...
>
> According to Sandra and which she has posted on her list, you did indeed
> contact her and forward the letter. Just a snip she posted from your e-mail
> <<There's national movement to boycott my conference because of you. I am
> hearing a lot of good stuff about you too though.>>
>
> Lynda
Except for replacing DJ Brewer's business mail address with her personal one
at her request, this is untouched. It is addressed to conference
coordinators, liasons, and those quoted and affected and was mailed because I
was sent a copy of Sarah's letter below.
--------------------------
Subj: Holly did NOT send me the "boycott letter"
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:12:38 AM
From: SandraDodd
To: [DJ of Texas@...], Kbcdlovejo, fetteroll@...,
HEM-Editor@..., PSoroosh, furgfam@...,
puddles@..., SandraDodd
For the record, Holly Furgason neither sent me a copy of the letter NOR did
she tell me who wrote it. She only told me that there was threat of a
national boycott, with no names. These words exactly: " There's national
movement to boycott my conference because of you. I am hearing a lot of good
stuff about you too
though." I assumed wrongly that it had been Lynda until I saw a copy of what
had been posted to the unschooling families list. It was shown to me by
other people, but MANY people have seen it. As far as I know, Holly didn't
send it out to anyone.
I was sent a copy of DJ Brewer's letter. It was not hateful. I've included
it below for those who did not see it. DJ knows me personally, and lives in
Houston. For expressing her opinion directly to the one threatening
boycott, she has been falsely and cruelly depicted IN PUBLIC in the post
below.
Sandra
Subj: [unschoolingfamilies] I'm out of here...
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:57:05 AM
From: puddles@...
To: [email protected],
[email protected], [email protected]
From: puddles@... (Sarah Carothers)
Reply-to: [email protected]
To: [email protected] (Unschoolingfamilies@Yahoogroups.
Com), [email protected], [email protected]
With all the commotion over the boycott letter I sent to Holly (which she
forwarded to Sandra and apparently every Texas homeschooler she
knows...DJBrewer, Tanya, etc.), I'm getting hateful mail from every fan of SD
on the planet. Rather than stick around and read these poslindly follow those
types as if they have a ring in their noses, WAITING to be led around. There
are way too many people supporting her to try to effect a change with just a
few of us willing to stick our necks out and speak up. So many people who
disagree with her and her tactics (and there ARE quite a few) would rather
just leave and go about unschooling solo.... forget about trying to help new
people to unschooling; forget about trying to create a movement that
represents ALL our voices, not just the loudest.
Well, I guess these silent people have the right idea by just dropping out of
the picture because sticking my neck out hasn't done a bit of good.
Wishing you all the best and lotsa luck in your endeavors~
Regards,
Sarah
"Don't wrestle with pigs--you both get dirty and the pig likes it."
----------------
DJ's letter to Sarah:
Subj: howdy fellow homeschooler
Date: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:19:13 AM
From: [DJ of Texas@...]
To: SandraDodd@...
Dear Sarah,
Howdy. I am a homeschooling mother of four in the Houston area. I am
planning to attend the conference you were metioning, and I was very
surprised at your letter's description of Sandra Dodd. (it was sent to
me by another homeschooling friend who is attending the conference)
I know Sandra Dodd personally, and have never found her to have an "in
your face" "slap you upside the head" approach at all.
Did ya'll have some kind of run in or something?
I personally was offended by you telling people that they should not
attend -- it makes you sound like some sort of censor to what should or
shouldn't be done or learned or something.
I have a sister in Lubbock. I dont see how a trip there would in any
way facilitate a trip to Houston. I am a 12 hour drive away from my
sister. Of course, one could fly from Lubbock to Houston, but
thankfully, you wont need to.
I am sorry to have to say this, but I found your letter nothing more
than a thinly veiled attempt to loose some vitriolic diatribe against a
very decent person.
I mean, its fine if you dont like someone, but why use your own personal
prejudice and foist it upon others, just because you dont like a
particular speaker's method. Why not let others find out for
themselves. If Sandra is truly as bad as you say, let her hang herself
with her own rope. There is no need for you to waste time or energy on
such an endevor.
I hope you have a wonderful homeschooling life. Please allow others to
do so always. Let's not block the path of learning with petty
personality differences.
Sincerely
DJ Brewer
meghan anderson
The mind just boggles at all of this. Don't these people have anything
better to do with their time (like hang out with their kids!)? It's so
incredibly petty and small minded. Obviously, they're not big on letting go
of past resentments and getting on with their lives <sarky grin>.
Personally, I'm so looking forward to meeting you in Sacramento!! I can't
wait! I'm also looking forward to meeting some of you other list mates.
Meghan
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."
~ Benjamin Franklin
better to do with their time (like hang out with their kids!)? It's so
incredibly petty and small minded. Obviously, they're not big on letting go
of past resentments and getting on with their lives <sarky grin>.
Personally, I'm so looking forward to meeting you in Sacramento!! I can't
wait! I'm also looking forward to meeting some of you other list mates.
Meghan
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety, and ultimately will have neither."
~ Benjamin Franklin