tandos mama

I will also chime in as mama from a family eternally grateful for the conversations here. Our kids are thriving as is our marriage in no small part due to the generosity of those who've taken the time to write so cogently here. We do not participate in facebook. Instead I receive a daily digest of emails from the couple of yahoo groups that I value. I personally find blogs to be a useful space for archiving information, images, and links. They can be set up to encourage discussion and folks can choose to follow them, but I know you're already aware of that. 

Tori



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

12 Messages

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Not junk / how's this group? by "Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "nacho katy" nachokaty
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "Dana Hayden" qmemom
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "chris ester" chris_e_bear
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "belinda dutch" belindadutch
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "rainbow mountains" rainmountain1
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "Erin Waterbury" pjsmomma
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd
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Re: Not junk / how's this group? by "Keisha Igbazua" keishaigbazua
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Phones, and discussions by "Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd

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Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd

The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in my e-mail. :-)
It was from me, from a group I own.

Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.

Any feedback or ideas?

I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in general).

I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.

Share your frustrations about the group if you want to, so I’ll know more.

I used to live on e-mail, and now I forget to check it some days.

Sandra

Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"nacho katy" nachokaty

I do think yahoo groups are dying, and I’m sad because I only just discovered them last year. 

I’ve never sent a post before because I’m in the “watch a little” phase still, but definitely enjoy and learn from the discussions here. 

I still don’t use Facebook which is probably limiting in some ways, but still feels right and very liberating to me in most ways. Perhaps if those feelings swap or grow too much one way, I’ll change. 

Maybe too many words to say the same thing which is I enjoy the group even though I’m primarily a voyeur. I wish there was more activity here, but even in the limited activity since I’ve joined (about a year or so), there has been meaningful information. 

Also, apologies if too many returns or not enough as sometimes returns are added and sometimes deleted and I’m never sure which one I’ll get....

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Monday, August 13, 2018, 8:48 AM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

 
The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in my e-mail. :-)
It was from me, from a group I own.

Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.

Any feedback or ideas?

I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in general).

I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.

Share your frustrations about the group if you want to, so I’ll know more.

I used to live on e-mail, and now I forget to check it some days.

Sandra
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Sandra Dodd" sandralynndodd

-=-Maybe too many words to say the same thing which is I enjoy the group even though I’m primarily a voyeur. I wish there was more activity here, but even in the limited activity since I’ve joined (about a year or so), there has been meaningful information. -=-

It can stay here. I’m willing to bring links to new things elsewhere, if nothing else. But questions are welcome! New discussions are welcome.

-=-Also, apologies if too many returns or not enough as sometimes returns are added and sometimes deleted and I’m never sure which one I’ll get….-=-

When the moderators see a post, to approve, depending where it came from , sometimes it looks like one big block of words, but posts up as individual paparagraphs. Sometimes we see junky symbols, but it posts fine.

Then sometimes it doesn’t post fine.

It’s all mysterious, from the secret world of different sites’ compilers and what programs’ codes are outdated.
The internet will probably never be perfect.

If you do go to facebook, Radical Unschooling Info is the closest to this group.

What other facebook unschooling discussions are a match for here? There are a few. People are welcome to name and link them.

We (older unschoolers whose kids are grown now) have enjoyed half a dozen great platforms and places to share info. Right not, the only busy site is Facebook. There’s no reason to think it will last forever, just as yahoogroups, the .ning sites, Home Education Magazine’s unschooling forum, AOL…. they all came, flourished, and withered. Bummer.

When I die, maybe occasionally send a donation to keep my site going. PayPal, my e-mail address, until someone catches on that I’m gone. :-) Then, ask my husband or daughter. It’s a few hundred dollars a year to keep it up, photos and all. I have automatic payments from paypal.

If my site does disappear, lots of it will be at the Internetarchive.com, the wayback machine. But even that might not last forever. :-)

Sandra

Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dana Hayden" qmemom

This group was a cornerstone to our family's unschooling journey. I still
browse it, but don't read as much as I once did. I do not belong to
Facebook and have no local unschooling groups, so it is still my connection
to the broader world of unschooling ideals.
Thanks for all of your time and commitment. My kids are 24, 22, and 14 now.
The positive impact on my family is immeasurable.
Dana

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@...
[AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

>
>
> The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in
> my e-mail. :-)
> It was from me, from a group I own.
>
> Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.
>
> Any feedback or ideas?
>
> I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a
> hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in
> general).
>
> I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.
>
> Share your frustrations about the group if you want to, so I’ll know more.
>
> I used to live on e-mail, and now I forget to check it some days.
>
> Sandra
>
>

Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"chris ester" chris_e_bear

Hi Sandra,
I own a couple of groups and moderate a few others. No yahoo group is easy
to navigate with a device not a laptop. There is apparently a browser app
that can be downloaded that helps. I think it is a firefox thing, but since
I was born so very many years ago..... I generally do not use my phone for
navigating groups.

I personally shutter at the idea that facebook will be the only game in
town for groups like this. Hang in there!
chris

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@...
[AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

>
>
> The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in
> my e-mail. :-)
> It was from me, from a group I own.
>
> Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.
>
> Any feedback or ideas?
>
> I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a
> hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in
> general).
>
> I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.
>
> Share your frustrations about the group if you want to, so I’ll know more.
>
> I used to live on e-mail, and now I forget to check it some days.
>
> Sandra
>
>

Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"belinda dutch" belindadutch

I am astonished how quickly its dropped away! It seems really recent that there was something to chew over most days. Now once a month?!

It was definitely clunky to set up and use. Yahoo is a bit of a dinosaur in internet terms.

I get that Facebook is more intuitive and familiar for most users.
But FB is held at arms length by many still. I block almost everything but your group and a few other groups necessary for kids activities. I really dislike it. Its not the group itself i don’t like, it’s the fb environment. I forget to check it a lot of the time by which time the discussion has moved on..

Its still good information as it’s still curated and kept on topic. But i think a lot of the answers are written on phones and are less carefully crafted ... like many I check fb on my phone in ‘empty moments’ in between stuff. When i am much less likely to write a considered contribution.

I mourn the yahoo group. It shaped my parenting and my unschooling journey and am glad it was active when i was starting out.

No idea how to breathe life back into it though... there are still lots of people writing... just not there.

Is there a more modern alternative to yahoo? Does anyone have a lovely intuitive clear discussion platform to recommend?! Just wondering...

Belinda

> On 13 Aug 2018, at 19:29, Dana Hayden dana1095@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
>
> This group was a cornerstone to our family's unschooling journey. I still browse it, but don't read as much as I once did. I do not belong to Facebook and have no local unschooling groups, so it is still my connection to the broader world of unschooling ideals.
> Thanks for all of your time and commitment. My kids are 24, 22, and 14 now. The positive impact on my family is immeasurable.
> Dana
>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
>>
>> The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in my e-mail. :-)
>> It was from me, from a group I own.
>>
>> Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.
>>
>> Any feedback or ideas?
>>
>> I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in general).
>>
>> I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.
>>
>> Share your frustrations about the group if you want to, so I’ll know more.
>>
>> I used to live on e-mail, and now I forget to check it some days.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>
>

Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

sukaynalabboun

I agree completely with Dana: I still read each email, but my kids are older and I often find I've gotten the hang of this (unschooling), so when I meditate on things I usually see where I've gotten muddled or am not being as mindful as I need to be. The tools were here, or on your website, and without them, I'm not sure I could reflect on myself or our family so clearly. I still appreciate the learning you facilitate, every day...and I find it sad to think of a world without you or your contributions (I often see your ideas repackaged or reworded on newer sites or blogs- I wish they'd just credit you, but that's another story!)
Sometimes Just Add Light goes to junk mail, but not AL.
Thank you, Sandra, and wishing you and your growing family many blessed and peaceful years to come.

Treasaigh

> On Aug 13, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Dana Hayden dana1095@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
>
>
>
> This group was a cornerstone to our family's unschooling journey. I still browse it, but don't read as much as I once did. I do not belong to Facebook and have no local unschooling groups, so it is still my connection to the broader world of unschooling ideals.
> Thanks for all of your time and commitment. My kids are 24, 22, and 14 now. The positive impact on my family is immeasurable.
> Dana
>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
>> The post with the new links on my site showed as “this might be junk” in my e-mail. :-)
>> It was from me, from a group I own.
>>
>> Perhaps yahoogroups are really not going to survive.
>>
>> Any feedback or ideas?
>>
>> I think people need a yahoo ID to read the group online (which isn’t a hard thing to obtain, but lots of people have moved to google and gmail, in general).
>>
>> I was told the site isn’t easy to navigate with a phone, either.
>>
>> Share your frustrations about the gro

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Sandra Dodd

Tori wrote:

-=-
I personally find blogs to be a useful space for archiving information, images, and links. They can be set up to encourage discussion and folks can choose to follow them, but I know you're already aware of that.
-=-

I have the blog http://unschooling.blogspot.com
Laura Derrick created it, but named it otherwise. I think the name could be changed easily.
I used to use it for links to mainstream articles, and similar other announcements.

If you (Tori, particularly, or the plural vague/general all of you) think it would be an easier place to share topics, we could go over there.
Or use that in addition to this.

I have several blogs, and I wish my personal one was busier, but I shoot my wad on facebook, because it’s so easy to read and “like” and comment on the side privately that the other blogs can seem as dusty as yahoogroups. :-)

Tori, I’m sorry I didn’t see your post until today. I had thought about mentioning the possibility of a blog, and I could start a new one, and I do like the format pretty well, but… would it be splitting the audience once again?

unschooling.blogspot.com WOULD be easy to remember and find. :-)

I had hopes that my Thinking Sticks blog would catch some people’s interest, but it didn’t. Probably because facebook is more fun.

http://thinkingsticks.blogspot.com

Sandra