michelle_bailey@...

My always unschooled 16 year old daughter started taking college classes at the end of her 15th year at the local community college. She tested into honors English and has done very well. She had been considering going to nursing school and found out she would need a GED to do so. This was shared with her father but she has since changed her mind and the degree she wants to pursue doesn't require it.


Her father and I have been divorced for about 12 years. He has never taken any interest in how the kids were educated and has barely been involved in their lives. His income is considerably higher than mine (10x) and he has so far paid for our daughter's college classes. She recently asked him to pay for two summer courses. He is refusing to pay for any more college classes until she gets her GED now. He keeps insisting that she won't be able to get a job (she has one?) without a GED and refuses to discuss it. As far as I can tell...the GED doesn't really matter if she has a college degree, right?


-Elle

Sandra Dodd

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the GED doesn't really matter if she has a college degree, right?
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Because there’s “cash and valuable prizes” involved, and it won’t be difficult for her to pass it, she should just get one, so her dad will pay for her classes. It’s not difficult or expensive.

Sandra

Heather

<<the GED doesn't really matter if she has a college degree, right? >>
I  think that is Usually the case. But I know of one instance where a young man had a college degree & still had to take the GED to fulfill some requirement for the job he wanted (I think it was something in law enforcement,; sheriff's department, maybe?) 
He tried to suggest that it wasn't needed because he had his College degree, but the office needed to cross the GED box off in order to give him the job.  They wouldn't accept his homeschool diploma. So he took the GED & got the job.
 - Heather 
 in Tucson AZ

chris ester

When I got a job that required a Master's Degree and a state license that was issued after passing a professional credential test, I still had to bring in my high school diploma as well as my Bachelor's degree as documentation of my credentials....  

I was happy that I even found all of those!
chris

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Heather swingdancechick@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
 

<<the GED doesn't really matter if she has a college degree, right? >>
I  think that is Usually the case. But I know of one instance where a young man had a college degree & still had to take the GED to fulfill some requirement for the job he wanted (I think it was something in law enforcement,; sheriff's department, maybe?) 
He tried to suggest that it wasn't needed because he had his College degree, but the office needed to cross the GED box off in order to give him the job.  They wouldn't accept his homeschool diploma. So he took the GED & got the job.
 - Heather 
 in Tucson AZ


sukaynalabboun@...

It's a very easy test- I think she should just take it and please her father, get the financial aid she needs, and as a bonus, it's out of the way later on if she ever needs it. FYI she needs to be 17 to sit for that test.

Joyce Fetteroll

The GED was revamped a few years ago. It’s more challenging than it was. So anyone considering taking it can avoid surprises by taking some practice tests first.

Joyce

K Pennell

When my son was applying for college a few years ago, he found that some colleges required the GED from homeschooled students. It may be a good idea for her to take it, just in case she needs it down the road.


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My always unschooled 16 year old daughter started taking college classes at the end of her 15th year at the local community college. She tested into honors English and has done very well. She had been considering going to nursing school and found out she would need a GED to do so. This was shared with her father but she has since changed her mind and the degree she wants to pursue doesn't require it.

Her father and I have been divorced for about 12 years. He has never taken any interest in how the kids were educated and has barely been involved in their lives. His income is considerably higher than mine (10x) and he has so far paid for our daughter's college classes. She recently asked him to pay for two summer courses. He is refusing to pay for any more college classes until she gets her GED now. He keeps insisting that she won't be able to get a job (she has one?) without a GED and refuses to discuss it. As far as I can tell...the GED doesn't really matter if she has a college degree, right?

-Elle




Sandra Dodd

Sorry for people outside the U.S. where this question is regional.
Maybe at least the philosophical aspects are useful in other places.



-=-The GED was revamped a few years ago. It’s more challenging than it was. So anyone considering taking it can avoid surprises by taking some practice tests first.-=-

Marty got a practice book, but mostly ignored it. He read through things, and I coached him a bit on what an essay should be. He passed it the first time.

I think that was eight years ago, so it might be harder now. There are probably online practice things>


Sandra

Sandra Dodd

-=-He tried to suggest that it wasn't needed because he had his College degree, but the office needed to cross the GED box off in order to give him the job. -=-

My kids have seen that a time or two, as well.

Usually, though, “Some college” has eliminated the “high school diploma” box. Depends how the forms are set up (online forms or paper).

Sandra

sukaynalabboun@...

Ruqayya just took practice tests- as did her sisters for fun- and flipped through the book. They all passed and were shocked at how easy it was (currently looking for testing center around here to take GED to help with homeschooled university admissions). 
It seems pretty basic, depending on her skill set, and probably with minor preparation, she would pass.

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On May 29, 2017, at 7:06 PM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:

Sorry for people outside the U.S. where this question is regional.   
Maybe at least the philosophical aspects are useful in other places.



-=-The GED was revamped a few years ago. It’s more challenging than it was. So anyone considering taking it can avoid surprises by taking some practice tests first.-=-

Marty got a practice book, but mostly ignored it.  He read through things, and I coached him a bit on what an essay should be. He passed it the first time.

I think that was eight years ago, so it might be harder now.  There are probably online practice things>


Sandra

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Vicki Dennis

I agree she should just take the test and be done with it.   Certainly should ask her father to pay the fee for it :-).
It is not always necessary to be 17 to take the test.   Depends on the state you are in as well as other factors.
It IS necessary to sign an affidavit that you are not currently enrolled in high school.
An added bonus is that doing well on the test may bring scholarship offers.......or at least admission....to some colleges.
That was a surprising outcome when my son took it at age 16.

I have heard it is slightly more difficult now but just take a few practice tests.   If she has been doing Honors college classes.....especially English.....it is unlikely she would have difficulty even with the new one.
Vicki

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 6:40 AM, sukaynalabboun@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
 

It's a very easy test- I think she should just take it and please her father, get the financial aid she needs, and as a bonus, it's out of the way later on if she ever needs it. FYI she needs to be 17 to sit for that test.


chris ester

I think that it depends on the state that you live in.  Our state has raised the minimum mandatory school attendance age to 18, but has left the age at which you can take the GED at 16. 
chris

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:40 AM, sukaynalabboun@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
 

It's a very easy test- I think she should just take it and please her father, get the financial aid she needs, and as a bonus, it's out of the way later on if she ever needs it. FYI she needs to be 17 to sit for that test.


chris ester

Particularly for the math portion,  Kahn Academy is very helpful for the various standardized tests out there, including the GED.
chris

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Vicki Dennis vicki@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
 

I agree she should just take the test and be done with it.   Certainly should ask her father to pay the fee for it :-).
It is not always necessary to be 17 to take the test.   Depends on the state you are in as well as other factors.
It IS necessary to sign an affidavit that you are not currently enrolled in high school.
An added bonus is that doing well on the test may bring scholarship offers.......or at least admission....to some colleges.
That was a surprising outcome when my son took it at age 16.

I have heard it is slightly more difficult now but just take a few practice tests.   If she has been doing Honors college classes.....especially English.....it is unlikely she would have difficulty even with the new one.
Vicki

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 6:40 AM, sukaynalabboun@... [AlwaysLearning] <AlwaysLearning@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
 

It's a very easy test- I think she should just take it and please her father, get the financial aid she needs, and as a bonus, it's out of the way later on if she ever needs it. FYI she needs to be 17 to sit for that test.



Sandra Dodd

-=-I think that it depends on the state that you live in. Our state has raised the minimum mandatory school attendance age to 18, but has left the age at which you can take the GED at 16. -=-

It has always depended on the state. Kids from New Mexico used to go out of state, but they lowered the age here (years ago; I haven’t needed to know for a long time).

But “mandatory school attendance” doesn’t apply to kids who are out legitimately, and homeschooled kids are legitimately out. And if the parent says “We’re done, now, he’s graduated, let him take the test,” that can work.

Also, even when that age is in place, there ARE ways to drop out, and ways to leave early, always, in the fine print. And to attend a different school (which might require a GED) would not stump very many school administrators, on letting a kid out.

Sandra

sukaynalabboun@...

I had just read they need to be 17 to sit for GED- that may be for int'l students- and I mentioned it because these age requirements have been a bit annoying when one kid wants to take a test and cannot because she's still 15....It makes sense that the age varies by state.


On May 31, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Sandra Dodd Sandra@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:

-=-I think that it depends on the state that you live in.  Our state has raised the minimum mandatory school attendance age to 18, but has left the age at which you can take the GED at 16. -=-

It has always depended on the state.  Kids from New Mexico used to go out of state, but they lowered the age here (years ago; I haven’t needed to know for a long time).

But “mandatory school attendance” doesn’t apply to kids who are out legitimately, and homeschooled kids are legitimately out.  And if the parent says “We’re done, now, he’s graduated, let him take the test,” that can work.

Also, even when that age is in place, there ARE ways to drop out, and ways to leave early, always, in the fine print.  And to attend a different school (which might require a GED) would not stump very many school administrators, on letting a kid out.

Sandra

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