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Wishing you all a safe and fun
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**Fourth of July*******
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from one of your northern neighbors

Kathy

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I'm up WAY too early this 4th of July! But all my family members are
otherwise engaged for tonight, and so it's a very different 4th.

Figuring I'd seen enough fireworks for a lifetime (including 2nd row seats at
a competition between American manufacturors years ago when I had no children
and hallucinogenic drugs didn't seem so illegal), I agreed one by one to
release my husband, middle son, oldest son and daughter to their various and
sundry other 4th of July activities. Keith will be in Wyoming at an SCA
event with a male friend. Marty will be three hours south at Elephant Butte
Lake with his friend Logan's extended family. Kirby is going with Carol
Rice's family (famous here from the really-late reading article at
www.unschooling.com) to watch the fireworks at Kirtland Air Force Base, and
Holly had a choice of two plans and is going to go with Kirby.

Me, I'll stay here and comfort the dog and make a webpage for my friend
Ramona King whose husband and three kids are away in North Carolina.

Holly is a big Anglophile. She doesn't know or care much about castles and
kings, which is the draw for many such folk. She's interested in language
and modern cultural differences. She asked me what they do in England on the
4th of July. Well, I said, probably nothing much but feel bad that we kicked
their butts.

The cool thing is that the thought of that will not leave her until she's too
old to remember (or otherwise can't remember), because I said they can do the
little happy dance about whupin' Spain in the 1600s still, but it was down
hill for them militarily for a long time.

All she knows about colonization and the American Revolution (which at her
age and with her interests isn't much) she will tie to how England feels
about us now, and how all that came to evolve.

What she knows about Russia and the USSR and eastern Europe is WAY different
from the small propagandistic nonsense I knew at her age, and it's for
entirely different reasons and from different angles.

I love watching them learn, and thinking back and wishing I could have
learned that way. Sometimes I did, but not with the same outside approval
and in the absense of the school outline and brittle summary.

So the 4th of July is not hot-dog day for my kids. It's exploration day.

But that's not so exciting for them because so is every other day!!

And I get to make a website, using the scanner I hooked up myself, and the
knowledge I've (somewhat painstakingly) gathered over the past couple of
years about html (more the past month than all the time before that, but I
did have my toe in the water a long time on that before I decided it wasn't
beyond me), and hang out with Ramona for the first time ever without two to
six children in and around the conversation.

Sounds like a GREAT day!!

Sandra

Kate Green

Hate to disapoint you yanks but most Brits aren't really bothered by the
fact the US was "given" independence. It's kind of no big deal!
We don't celebrate it and it was always interesting when the US bases in
the UK had celebrations -- they were forced to be very low key.

Now what will really piss off the older generation is when you discuss how
the US pushed their way in during WWII -- that really gets tempers flying:)

Kate

>Holly is a big Anglophile. She doesn't know or care much about castles and
>kings, which is the draw for many such folk. She's interested in language
>and modern cultural differences. She asked me what they do in England on
the
>4th of July. Well, I said, probably nothing much but feel bad that we
kicked
>their butts.
>

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In a message dated 7/4/02 9:43:31 AM, karegree@... writes:

<< Hate to disapoint you yanks but most Brits aren't really bothered by the
fact the US was "given" independence. It's kind of no big deal! >>

It's the only day of the year people here generally dis England. Other
times, pretty much the whole country is Anglophiliac! <g>

Kelly Jo Murphy

I see the 4th as a celebration of the birth of our country,
not a time to dis anyone.

And we were not "given" independence, we fought for it.

Have a wonderful day, no matter where you live!

Love,
Kelly Jo
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In a message dated 7/4/02 9:43:31 AM, karegree@... writes:

<< Hate to disapoint you yanks but most Brits aren't really bothered by the
fact the US was "given" independence. It's kind of no big deal! >>

It's the only day of the year people here generally dis England. Other
times, pretty much the whole country is Anglophiliac! <g>

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In a message dated 7/4/02 9:54:50 AM, kellyjo.murphy@... writes:

<< I see the 4th as a celebration of the birth of our country,
not a time to dis anyone. >>

One momentary mental happy dance that King George wasn't more organized or
better at divergent thought isn't dissing England for all time. Nor is it a
reflection on the current population of the United Kingdom, any more than I
can personally take credit for the founding of the United States. It's a
holiday, that's all. People remember or "celebrate" what they want, and I'm
sure MOST celebration is lacking in lofty purpose or political correctness.
A day off and a case of Bud is sufficient for a lot of guys.

Sandra

Shyrley

I had some idiot be rude to me just cos I'm English. Next year I will
get a T-shirt made up saying 'We let ya win'
Well, I'm off to the fireworks to celebrate getting rid of the yanks :-)

Shyrley who likes fireworks and parties



On 4 Jul 02, at 8:52, Kelly Jo Murphy wrote:

> I see the 4th as a celebration of the birth of our country,
> not a time to dis anyone.
>
> And we were not "given" independence, we fought for it.
>
> Have a wonderful day, no matter where you live!
>
> Love,
> Kelly Jo
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> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:48 AM
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> In a message dated 7/4/02 9:43:31 AM, karegree@...
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>
> << Hate to disapoint you yanks but most Brits aren't really bothered
> by the fact the US was "given" independence. It's kind of no big
> deal! >>
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> It's the only day of the year people here generally dis England.
> Other times, pretty much the whole country is Anglophiliac! <g>
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Kate Green

>I see the 4th as a celebration of the birth of our country,
>not a time to dis anyone.

I don't think any of us were.

>
>And we were not "given" independence, we fought for it.

Well that could perhaps be the reason for the quotation marks!! However I
think it's nice to remember that "we" were Brits against Brits so heck we
are all from the same pack originally:)


Kate
>
>Have a wonderful day, no matter where you live!
>
>Love,
>

Shyrley

On 4 Jul 02, at 19:39, Kate Green wrote:

> Hate to disapoint you yanks but most Brits aren't really bothered by
> the fact the US was "given" independence. It's kind of no big deal! We
> don't celebrate it and it was always interesting when the US bases in
> the UK had celebrations -- they were forced to be very low key.
>
> Now what will really piss off the older generation is when you discuss
> how the US pushed their way in during WWII -- that really gets tempers
> flying:)
>
> Kate
>

What do you mean 'pushed their way in'
If you listen to people here in Virginia you would think the US won
the 1st and 2nd World Wars single-handed. I've tried reminding
them that one, they were late (almost missed the first one all-
together) and two, other people were involved. In fact us brits
softened up the germans first.
I don't mind admitting that the Americans were a big help during
WW2 but they only arrived for the last 18 months or so.
Right. I'll get off my soapbox. I've been harassed by people here in
Virginia for being English so I'm feeling a tad ticked off.

Shyrley who declared her house as independant yesterday from
the rest of the US.


Q. When the devil tempted Jesus after his 40 day fast (40 days would kill anyone) what form did the devil take and is he still roaming the earth as we speak?
A. It is quite clear from scripture (Satan showing Jesus all the Kingdoms and offering them) that Lucifer took the form of a ReMax Realtor®

Nancy Wooton

on 7/5/02 3:05 PM, Shyrley at shyrley.williams@... wrote:

> If you listen to people here in Virginia you would think the US won
> the 1st and 2nd World Wars single-handed. I've tried reminding
> them that one, they were late (almost missed the first one all-
> together) and two, other people were involved. In fact us brits
> softened up the germans first.
> I don't mind admitting that the Americans were a big help during
> WW2 but they only arrived for the last 18 months or so.

Have you ever read a US history textbook? Or better still, James Loewen's
"Lies My Teacher Told Me"? American children are taught history for the
purpose of creating Americans (one culture, one mindset, one big crowd of
right-voting and -buying ignoramuses), not for the purpose of learning
history. Those Virginians are only repeating what they've been taught (and
of course, the teacher wouldn't have *lied*...)

> Right. I'll get off my soapbox.

Me too. <g> (though the view from up here is nice.)

> I've been harassed by people here in
> Virginia for being English so I'm feeling a tad ticked off.

I'm sorry. Americans aren't called "ugly" oversees for nothing, I guess.

Nancy (anglophile and English on all sides of the pedigree - 'cept for the
Irishman who married the Cherokee ;-)

Sharon Rudd

> Shyrley who declared her house as independant
> yesterday from
> the rest of the US.

Didn't something like that start a bloody war ...a bit
over a hundred years ago.....quite near to where you
are now....

Sharon of the Swamp elligble for Daughters of the
Conferacy and Daughters of the American Revolution

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Shyrley

On 5 Jul 02, at 16:10, Sharon Rudd wrote:

>
> > Shyrley who declared her house as independant
> > yesterday from
> > the rest of the US.
>
> Didn't something like that start a bloody war ...a bit
> over a hundred years ago.....quite near to where you
> are now....
>
> Sharon of the Swamp elligble for Daughters of the
> Conferacy and Daughters of the American Revolution
>

Well, no-ones been round yet.
I heard someone mention the Daughters of the Revolution. Who or
what are they?

Shyrley


Q. When the devil tempted Jesus after his 40 day fast (40 days would kill anyone) what form did the devil take and is he still roaming the earth as we speak?
A. It is quite clear from scripture (Satan showing Jesus all the Kingdoms and offering them) that Lucifer took the form of a ReMax Realtor®

Sharon Rudd

Daughters of the American Revolution
Direct descendeants of persons who participated in the
revolution, in continuous residence in USA and also
descendants of women who are part of that organiztion.
Some other stuff too, but I don't remember what.

Same for Daughters of the Confederacy. Mostly they do
up keep on memorials have fete's of various types and
participate in reinactments and have meetings.

I'm not actually active in either group, but am
eligible :-)

Are you doing OK with the heat and the MS?

Sharon of the Swamp


--- Shyrley <shyrley.williams@...> wrote:
> On 5 Jul 02, at 16:10, Sharon Rudd wrote:
>
> >
> > > Shyrley who declared her house as independant
> > > yesterday from
> > > the rest of the US.
> >
> > Didn't something like that start a bloody war ...a
> bit
> > over a hundred years ago.....quite near to where
> you
> > are now....
> >
> > Sharon of the Swamp elligble for Daughters of
> the
> > Conferacy and Daughters of the American Revolution
> >
>
> Well, no-ones been round yet.
> I heard someone mention the Daughters of the
> Revolution. Who or
> what are they?
>
> Shyrley
>
>
> Q. When the devil tempted Jesus after his 40 day
> fast (40 days would kill anyone) what form did the
> devil take and is he still roaming the earth as we
> speak?
> A. It is quite clear from scripture (Satan showing
> Jesus all the Kingdoms and offering them) that
> Lucifer took the form of a ReMax Realtor�
>


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On 5 Jul 02, at 16:27, Sharon Rudd wrote:

> Daughters of the American Revolution
> Direct descendeants of persons who participated in the
> revolution, in continuous residence in USA and also
> descendants of women who are part of that organiztion.
> Some other stuff too, but I don't remember what.
>
> Same for Daughters of the Confederacy. Mostly they do
> up keep on memorials have fete's of various types and
> participate in reinactments and have meetings.
>
> I'm not actually active in either group, but am
> eligible :-)
>
> Are you doing OK with the heat and the MS?
>
> Sharon of the Swamp
>

MS is starting up again which is a pain and VA had temps with a
heat index of 112F which was unbelievable. I moved into the freezer
for the week :-)

Shyrley


Q. When the devil tempted Jesus after his 40 day fast (40 days would kill anyone) what form did the devil take and is he still roaming the earth as we speak?
A. It is quite clear from scripture (Satan showing Jesus all the Kingdoms and offering them) that Lucifer took the form of a ReMax Realtor®

Sue Patterson

<<I don't mind admitting that the Americans were a big help during WW2 but
they only arrived for the last 18 months or so. Right. I'll get off my
soapbox. I've been harassed by people here in Virginia for being English so
I'm feeling a tad ticked off. >>

I'm so sorry to hear that people are giving you a hard time there, Shyrley.
:(

My dad fought in WW2, landed on the beaches in Normandy, actually. And he
always had nothing but admiration for the British. He said they were the
toughest people he had seen in a long time...strong and determined in spite
of the bombings and raids that were happening in their country at the time.
He wasn't someone to compliment easily - and certainly didn't have the same
to say about the French. But the British - held in the highest esteem.

I agree - those James Loewen books are great at helping to set some of the
historic records straight. Remember, I live in TEXAS - the state that James
said had the MOST inaccurate historical markers in the whole country! I
believe it!!! LOL!

We had a great 4th of July in spite of the rains. We did our own fireworks
in our own driveway out in the country. Very simple. The kids were thrilled.

Happy Belated 4th , Everyone! Including you, Shyrley the RDI (Recently
Declared Independent!) <g>

~Sue
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moonmeghan

<<<<--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., "Shyrley" <shyrley.williams@v...>
wrote:

What do you mean 'pushed their way in'
> If you listen to people here in Virginia you would think the US
won
> the 1st and 2nd World Wars single-handed. I've tried
reminding
> them that one, they were late (almost missed the first one all-
> together) and two, other people were involved. In fact us brits
> softened up the germans first.
> I don't mind admitting that the Americans were a big help
during
> WW2 but they only arrived for the last 18 months or so.
> Right. I'll get off my soapbox. I've been harassed by people
here in
> Virginia for being English so I'm feeling a tad ticked off.
>
> Shyrley who declared her house as independant yesterday
from
> the rest of the US.>>>>


What a bunch of morons! I'm sorry you're getting a hard time.
How are you holding up in the heat? It's supposed to be 105
here tomorrow. YUCK!! At least it's a dry heat (only 10-11%
humidity). I wish I had a swimming pool.
We had a great 4th! We went to a friend's house and swam and
barbecued and had a small firework display in the back yard. It
was relaxing, chilled and a whole lot of fun.

Meghan

Shyrley

On 10 Jul 02, at 10:35, moonmeghan wrote:


>
>
> What a bunch of morons! I'm sorry you're getting a hard time.
> How are you holding up in the heat? It's supposed to be 105
> here tomorrow. YUCK!! At least it's a dry heat (only 10-11%
> humidity). I wish I had a swimming pool.
> We had a great 4th! We went to a friend's house and swam and
> barbecued and had a small firework display in the back yard. It was
> relaxing, chilled and a whole lot of fun.
>
> Meghan
>
>
The heat here has been terrible. Heat plus humidity has had us up
to 112F. Yesterday is was only 101F but so humid you could
almost have a shower out there :-(
I hate the summers here.

Shyrley


"Reality is a just temporary illusion caused by a lack of alcohol in the
bloodstream."

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Driving home today I noticed a big sign with the temperature displayed on
it.......100 degrees at 6:30 PM!! and 100 percent humidity doesn't mean
rain. ):0

We have discovered eating a watermelon that has spent several hours in the
freezer is a great way to beat the heat. Snow cones and popsicles are great
too.

I teach an exercise class (Jazzercise) several times a week and I take
frozen wash clothes in my cooler with me. The participants are very
grateful. I put a few drops of lavender essential oil in the rinse cycle
before I put them in the freezer and that is a a real treat.

Joy

Trying to stay cool in Houston, Texas

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In a message dated 7/12/02 7:41:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
GSmith8995@... writes:


> 100 percent humidity doesn't mean
> rain.

So true. 100% humidity is pretty common here, along the banks of the
Mississippi River. Bleagh. Stepping outside feels like having a wet wool
sweater put on. :P Sometimes the air is so saturated here, that the
humidity just "falls" out of the sky on a cloudless day. It's water, but is
definitely NOT a refreshing rain! I don't understand how it works, but
unfortunately it does. It's usually accompanied by a strong smell of ozone.

Athena


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moonmeghan

<<<<--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., bunuz7@a... wrote:>
> 100 percent humidity doesn't mean
> > rain.

> In a message dated 7/12/02 7:41:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> GSmith8995@a... writes:

> So true. 100% humidity is pretty common here, along the
banks of the Mississippi River. Bleagh. Stepping outside feels
like having a wet wool sweater put on. :P Sometimes the air is
so saturated here, that the humidity just "falls" out of the sky on a
cloudless day. It's water, but is definitely NOT a refreshing rain! I
don't understand how it works, but unfortunately it does. It's
usually accompanied by a strong smell of ozone.
>
> Athena>>>>


All this humidity talk makes me thankful that I live in the dry heat
of CA!!

Meghan