Reading age graph
Jo Isaac
One more try at sending this graph - so sorry about the multiple emails! I don't know why it won't send as a picture!
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Sandra Dodd
This group is old, and “no attachments allowed” seemed like a great idea in 2001. Still, maybe. I’ll reconsider, but memes and emoticons are not nearly the same as carefully considered words.
http://sandradodd.com/readingage
I’ve put Jo’s words and graph there, and can update it, but maybe not in the next 24 hours.
Today Holly was here to help with prep for her dad’s birthday party tomorrow (he’s 60 July 6),
and Devyn stayed with u all day (she’s seven),
and I cooked and cleaned, fell asleep, woke up with a horrible leg cramp, and discovered all this excitement and some not-yet-approved posts (now approved).
I hope the new reports fit right into the curve so that the graph won’t need to be changed on the first day. :-)
Thank you, Jo, and sorry I wasn’t available when you needed more info and help.
Sandra
http://sandradodd.com/readingage
I’ve put Jo’s words and graph there, and can update it, but maybe not in the next 24 hours.
Today Holly was here to help with prep for her dad’s birthday party tomorrow (he’s 60 July 6),
and Devyn stayed with u all day (she’s seven),
and I cooked and cleaned, fell asleep, woke up with a horrible leg cramp, and discovered all this excitement and some not-yet-approved posts (now approved).
I hope the new reports fit right into the curve so that the graph won’t need to be changed on the first day. :-)
Thank you, Jo, and sorry I wasn’t available when you needed more info and help.
Sandra
Sandra Dodd
I deleted some posts from this thread, so that only the link to the graph at my site show and people aren’t milling around Jo’s blog. :-)
One thing Alex Polikowsky had added was a note (which I’ve corrected per her clarification):
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And in the US kids are not expected to read " unassisted" until they are third grade or around 8 years old.
So those kids in school would be learning to read anyway but without the baggage and pressure !
They would own their learning . They would not feel they are not smart enough if they are still not reading at 10 or 16!
Alex P
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Sandra
One thing Alex Polikowsky had added was a note (which I’ve corrected per her clarification):
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And in the US kids are not expected to read " unassisted" until they are third grade or around 8 years old.
So those kids in school would be learning to read anyway but without the baggage and pressure !
They would own their learning . They would not feel they are not smart enough if they are still not reading at 10 or 16!
Alex P
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Sandra
Joyce Fetteroll
> On Jul 5, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Alex & Brian Polikowsky polykowholsteins@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:*** So those kids in school would be learning to read anyway but without the baggage and pressure ! ***
But kids who won’t naturally be ready to read until later are still pressured to do the lessons. As far as the kids in school experience, the goal isn’t to effortlessly read when they’re able. The goal is to do today's lessons properly. It isn’t an atmosphere of “It’s okay even if you can’t do this. One day you will.” It’s more likely “You’re not trying,” even if it isn’t overtly said.
Joyce
Sue Solberg
What is the y axis on the chart? The x axis is the age, I know, but I don't see a label on the y axis.
Sue
Alex & Brian Polikowsky
Yes. It is terrible. My unschooled kids were all excited about reading and many of their schooled friends complained how hard it was to learn to read. So very different .
Gigi has a friend who was reading well a year before Gigi. Then a year later she told Gigi and I, when Gigi was reading, that she did not understand most of what she read and it was really hard for her. It made no sense!
Alex P.
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On Jul 6, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Joyce Fetteroll jfetteroll@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Alex & Brian Polikowsky polykowholsteins@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
*** So those kids in school would be learning to read anyway but without the baggage and pressure ! ***
But kids who won’t naturally be ready to read until later are still pressured to do the lessons. As far as the kids in school experience, the goal isn’t to effortlessly read when they’re able. The goal is to do today's lessons properly. It isn’t an atmosphere of “It’s okay even if you can’t do this. One day you will.” It’s more likely “You’re not trying,” even if it isn’t overtly said.
Joyce
Sandra Dodd
This is a comment Jo Isaac made that I’ve now added to the page:
“...so far the data is a perfect normal distribution/bell curve, with a median and a mode of 8.5 years, a mean of 8.02 years. Graph below (age on X axis)”
So the age is at the bottom, and the lefthand /Y is the deviation from the mean, I think. The “0.1” in the middle, on the vertical axis, shows where the mean is.
http://www.statisticshowto.com/what-is-standard-deviation/
Sandra (because Jo’s probably asleep at home in Austrail this time of the day/night)
http://sandradodd.com/readingage
“...so far the data is a perfect normal distribution/bell curve, with a median and a mode of 8.5 years, a mean of 8.02 years. Graph below (age on X axis)”
So the age is at the bottom, and the lefthand /Y is the deviation from the mean, I think. The “0.1” in the middle, on the vertical axis, shows where the mean is.
http://www.statisticshowto.com/what-is-standard-deviation/
Sandra (because Jo’s probably asleep at home in Austrail this time of the day/night)
http://sandradodd.com/readingage
Jo Isaac
Hi Sue - probability :)
Jo Isaac, PhD
Post-Doctoral Research Assistant,
Centre of Tropical Biodiversity and Climate Change,
James Cook University, Townsville.
Scientific Writer and Researcher: http://joisaac.wordpress.com
Post-Doctoral Research Assistant,
Centre of Tropical Biodiversity and Climate Change,
James Cook University, Townsville.
Scientific Writer and Researcher: http://joisaac.wordpress.com
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Sue Solberg italapas@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]>
Sent: 06 July 2016 17:03
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Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Reading age graph
Sent: 06 July 2016 17:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Reading age graph
What is the y axis on the chart? The x axis is the age, I know, but I don't see a label on the y axis.
Sue