Books for Unschoolers
belinda.dutch@...
I have recently read the wonderful 'My Family and Other Animals' by Gerald Durrell, to my 12 year old daughter - a chapter before she sleeps most nights.
Beside the fact that its so eccentric, funny, almost true and about an idyllic time on a greek island (you will want to to there) ..... it struck me that Gerry, the young narrator, is the closest thing I've seen to an unschooled character in any book I've read. His mother makes the odd attempt at hiring a tutor but it always seems to have very little impact on his passions and time. He is gloriously free to follow his obsessive animal observations and specimen collecting (it's old fashioned!), the family are hilarious, flawed and human, and there is no attempt to 'socialise' him with boys his own age - his best friend is a local doctor and intellectual who shares his passion for nature and sees him as a partner to go collecting with.
Just thought I'd share that observation, it's highly recommended but the humour may go over heads of younger readers (under 10?).
I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!
Belinda
sukaynalabboun@...
==I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!==
What does your daughter enjoy? I learned that I really enjoy fantasy after all from my kids! If you look at older books- Jane Austen for example, Inkheart is newer, there are characters either out of school or homeschooled. My kids were ok with school in books/ movies, and much more interested in the stories being told. School was like part of the costume in a play or a description, not something to be bothered about.
Sylvia Woodman
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:38 AM, belinda.dutch@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:I have recently read the wonderful 'My Family and Other Animals' by Gerald Durrell, to my 12 year old daughter - a chapter before she sleeps most nights.
Beside the fact that its so eccentric, funny, almost true and about an idyllic time on a greek island (you will want to to there) ..... it struck me that Gerry, the young narrator, is the closest thing I've seen to an unschooled character in any book I've read. His mother makes the odd attempt at hiring a tutor but it always seems to have very little impact on his passions and time. He is gloriously free to follow his obsessive animal observations and specimen collecting (it's old fashioned!), the family are hilarious, flawed and human, and there is no attempt to 'socialise' him with boys his own age - his best friend is a local doctor and intellectual who shares his passion for nature and sees him as a partner to go collecting with.
Just thought I'd share that observation, it's highly recommended but the humour may go over heads of younger readers (under 10?).
I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!
Belinda
Sylvia Woodman
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Sylvia Woodman <sylvia057@...> wrote:Here is a series about a traveling unschooling family written by someone I know. http://www.wrightontimebooks.comOn Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:38 AM, belinda.dutch@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:I have recently read the wonderful 'My Family and Other Animals' by Gerald Durrell, to my 12 year old daughter - a chapter before she sleeps most nights.
Beside the fact that its so eccentric, funny, almost true and about an idyllic time on a greek island (you will want to to there) ..... it struck me that Gerry, the young narrator, is the closest thing I've seen to an unschooled character in any book I've read. His mother makes the odd attempt at hiring a tutor but it always seems to have very little impact on his passions and time. He is gloriously free to follow his obsessive animal observations and specimen collecting (it's old fashioned!), the family are hilarious, flawed and human, and there is no attempt to 'socialise' him with boys his own age - his best friend is a local doctor and intellectual who shares his passion for nature and sees him as a partner to go collecting with.
Just thought I'd share that observation, it's highly recommended but the humour may go over heads of younger readers (under 10?).
I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!
Belinda
Dudu
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On Apr 1, 2016, at 11:38, belinda.dutch@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
I have recently read the wonderful 'My Family and Other Animals' by Gerald Durrell, to my 12 year old daughter - a chapter before she sleeps most nights.
Beside the fact that its so eccentric, funny, almost true and about an idyllic time on a greek island (you will want to to there) ..... it struck me that Gerry, the young narrator, is the closest thing I've seen to an unschooled character in any book I've read. His mother makes the odd attempt at hiring a tutor but it always seems to have very little impact on his passions and time. He is gloriously free to follow his obsessive animal observations and specimen collecting (it's old fashioned!), the family are hilarious, flawed and human, and there is no attempt to 'socialise' him with boys his own age - his best friend is a local doctor and intellectual who shares his passion for nature and sees him as a partner to go collecti ng with.
Just thought I'd share that observation, it's highly recommended but the humour may go over heads of younger readers (under 10?).
I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!
Belinda
mellingersa@...
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Friday, April 1, 2016, 09:51 -0700 from [email protected] <[email protected]>:
This is another book about a kid living without school. http://www.amazon.com/Dove-Robin-L-Graham/dp/0060920475/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1459529451&sr=1-1&keywords=doveOn Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Sylvia Woodman <sylvia057@...> wrote:Here is a series about a traveling unschooling family written by someone I know. http://www.wrightontimebooks.comOn Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:38 AM, belinda.dutch@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:I have recently read the wonderful 'My Family and Other Animals' by Gerald Durrell, to my 12 year old daughter - a chapter before she sleeps most nights.
Beside the fact that its so eccentric, funny, almost true and about an idyllic time on a greek island (you will want to to there) ..... it struck me that Gerry, the young narrator, is the closest thing I've seen to an unschooled character in any book I've read. His mother makes the odd attempt at hiring a tutor but it always seems to have very little impact on his passions and time. He is gloriously free to follow his obsessive animal observations and specimen collecting (it's old fashioned!), the family are hilarious, flawed and human, and there is no attempt to 'socialise' him with boys his own age - his best friend is a local doctor and intellectual who shares his passion for nature and sees him as a partner to go collecting with.
Just thought I'd share that observation, it's highly recommended but the humour may go over heads of younger readers (under 10?).
I wonder if there are any other characters people can think of from books that are so unfettered? I do get fed up with all the teen/tween fiction about all the bullying/japes that people get up to in school! Even the funny ones (just william?) and the exciting ones (harry potter?) are still school based. The ones that are not school based tend to by fantasies about vampires and suchlike!
Belinda
Elise
Elise Lauterbach
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Robin Stevenson
Robin Stevenson
A more exciting, faster paced read is Raider's Ransom, and the sequel Flood and Fire, both by Emily Diamand. Both are set in a future, slightly dystopian (but not too dark) world. The main characters are fabulously free, independent and unfettered, and it is a terrific adventure story (no school, no bullying, lots of humor, plus a cat, boats, rocket launchers and- in the second book- a terrific AI who may actually be an advanced gaming system). Highly recommend these ones!
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Heather Stafford
The Familiars by Adam Jay Epstein & Andrew Jacobson and the Wings of Fire dragon books are two other fun series that have nothing to do with school or school issues (it helps that the main characters aren't human I suppose!).The Land of Stories books by Chris Colfer is another series that we've really enjoyed listening to as an audio book (the author reads his books and he is spectacular with voices!). The main characters go to school, but the lead girl opts out of school after a while (and the stories have very little to do with school actually). The two main characters, a brother and sister, have a very supportive and loving family and a good relationship with them (which isn't often the case in novels about teens). My oldest thinks I should add the How to train Your Dragon books by Cressida Cowell to this list as well. She says they are in pirate school, training to be pirates, but that it is nothing like regular school. I haven't read those books yet, though, so I don't know how appropriate to the topic they really are.
On a side note, my kids and I really love watching Curious George episodes. Because he's a "monkey" (he's actually a chimpanzee I think, which is not a monkey) he doesn't have to go to school, so he is free to be curious about everything and has the time and support to explore all the things he's curious about. Basically, he's a perfect example of unschooling in action!
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On Sat, 4/2/16, Robin Stevenson rhswriting@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Books for Unschoolers
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, April 2, 2016, 12:28 PM
The Wanderer, by Sharon Creech, is beautifully
written. The story takes place on a sail boat, so no school,
and it is very much about self-discovery. The main character
is 13 and an independent thinker. It's a quiet story-
wouldn't appeal to every kid- but I think it is an
exceptionally good one.
A more exciting, faster paced read is Raider's Ransom,
and the sequel Flood and Fire, both by Emily Diamand. Both
are set in a future, slightly dystopian (but not too dark)
world. The main characters are fabulously free, independent
and unfettered, and it is a terrific adventure story (no
school, no bullying, lots of humor, plus a cat, boats,
rocket launchers and- in the second book- a terrific AI who
may actually be an advanced gaming system). Highly recommend
these ones!
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belinda.dutch@...
Clare Kirkpatrick
Caitlin Moran isn't in favour of home education because of how it was handled in her family. I like her and I like the programme, but I don't think it's a good advert for unschooling because of all the bits non unschoolers will see and focus on. And the mum is not involved enough, although I agree she is loving in her own way. Although they are clearly a close family unit, there's not much kindness within the family and that bugs me too.
In the UK, Sarah and Duck b on CBeebies is home educated, I believe.
Jorie Denny
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On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 3:56 AM, belinda.dutch@... [AlwaysLearning] <[email protected]> wrote:I'm really excited to check out these book suggestions, thank you!
While we don't deliberately steer away from well written books set in school situations, it is nonetheless really nice to have a non school perspective reflected at us. I have recently had another experience of how refreshing it is to have one's personal, maybe marginal, situation reflected in the mainstream media in a positive way, and has made me realise that it really does have some value, it is very helpful in somehow making one feel more relaxed with one's choices - look, we are not alone!!!There is an increasingly well known journalist and author here in the UK called Caitlin Moran. She worked in the music press mainly until she wrote 'How to Be A Woman'. She was home educated and the more I read about and find out about her childhood it looks a lot like unschooling to me. Which by all accounts was very brave of her parents in the 1970's, without the internet. Caitlin realised there was nobody 'like her family' represented on the television (home schooled and working class) and she and her sister have written a sit-com loosely based around their childhood. It's called 'Raised By Wolves' and is into it's second series on the UK Channel 4. I have to say we all find it absolutely brilliant, if a little edgy - lots of swearing, smoking and sexual references - like in real families with teenagers ;-) - but all with love and humour. My 12 year old girl has seen all the episodes multiple times as she says the humour gets better with every viewing - she gets more of the jokes each time.I'm not sure if it would translate at all well outside of the UK, I can't really tell how much of the humour is specific to our cultural references, and it IS an18 certificate, but somehow watching it has gladdened all our family (especially dad), and made us feel more culturally included. I particularly like the episode where one of the daughters decides to go to school 'because she isn't learning anything' at home. She wants to learn calculus etc. She is expelled on her first day as she is so appalled at the lack of respect for learning that she shouts 'doesn't anyone have any *****ing respect for Marco Polo in this classroom?' or words to that effect. She then enrols in the local adult ed college and has a ball with all the older folk there :-)Anyway, if you check it out, maybe do it without the children first if they are younger, and if anyone else has any similar recommendations that would be amazing - to be reflected, even if we are quite different to that family - really seems to have made a subtle but significant difference to how we feel about our place in our wider culture.Any other thoughts on this idea of reflection? Or anyone else got thoughts on that program?
Clare Kirkpatrick
You can buy it on amazon prime, I think.
> Apparently, nobody outside of the UK or Ireland can view UK programming through the channel 4 website. :( Do you know of any other way we can watch this show in the U.S.???
>
sherryannehalliday@...
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belinda.dutch@...
missalexmissalex@...
I'd love more ideas, too! My 9 yo dislikes school environments but is sensitive about not being in school like most kids, so we choose audio books for the car that aren't really set there.
My Side of the Mountain (which has 2 sequels, though one is from the bird's point of view) and From the Mixed Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler were both WONDERFUL stories of kids who ran away from home to have adventures.
Pippi Longstocking is another that we loved, and I know I've seen it on another list of books for unschoolers that I just can't find again. (Anyone know of one?) The larger than life almost-orphan living alone with a horse and a monkey--oh, and did I mention she is the strongest girl in the world?--is just enchanting. She does try school for one day and both finds it silly, and also commits a number of faux pas because she doesn't understand the social conventions of school. I like the way this part is written, very silly but sympathetic to both Pippi and the teacher, to me anyway.
When K was 4, she spent hours a day listening to the whole Magic Tree House series by Mary Pope Osborne over and over. They go to school, but the stories don't happen there. I'm just realizing now how similar those books are in focusing on kids freely choosing to tackle big, interesting challenges without being told exactly how to by adults. Merlin and Morgan, the magicians who give them their missions, respectfully treat the kids as people who are extremely capable.
Alex N.
EVE KELLEHER
Sandra Dodd
I liked the kids novels set in Saxon and Viking settings, by Henry Treece. If any of those ever became audible books, that would be fun. He wrote some adult things, too, so sort, sort out the kids’ things.
Redwall books?
American Girl dolls have some books, but they’s way too school-heavy for my tastes, because Josefina Montoya was made to go to a school that doesn’t even exist. :-) And the living history museum they based her character around has buildings from the 18th and 19th centuries (for real) and then an early 20th-century school building that was moved there for preservation, but it’s only subtly noted that the people who lived there had no such school, and that the school is from 200 miles and 150 years away.
There are newer books, about unschoolers, by Lisa Cottrell-Bentley:
http://www.amazon.com/Lisa-M.-Cottrell-Bentley/e/B002T3CE82/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
Sandra
Robin Stevenson
We are reading a great trilogy now that my son is really loving (he is 12, but these would be great for younger or older as well): Leviathan, Behemoth and Goliath, by Scott Westerfield. Two young teens, and no school, but lots of airships and daring adventure and genetically engineered creatures, as well a fascinating alternate version of World War One... We learned some history and geography from looking up various things and going off on tangents, as one does... and there are gorgeous black and white illustrations. Kids who like them might also enjoy the wiki for the books online- these books also totally lend themselves to wonderful steampunk fan art.
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lisajceledon@...
Island of the Blue Dolphins, The Boxcar Children (they go to school, but I remember that the stories or most of it takes place away from school, during the summer and vacations).
The Chronicles of Narnia are good on audiobook. They were hard to read when I wanted to read them as a child (harder for me than Michael Crichton), but I loved them on audiobook later.
Cornelia Funke's books are fun and adventurous and have little or nothing to do with school- Dragon Rider, and The Thief Lord are my favorites.
Peter and the Starcatchers by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson
His Dark Materials, a trilogy by Philip Pullman (better known maybe as The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass) -- really really beautiful story. Maybe a bit too much in places for sensitive children. Maybe read it first or read ahead to know where and what could be skipped or glossed over.
I read this series the first time as I was first becoming a mother and before leaving my job in early childhood education. I think they had a profound impact on the way my ideas about learning and parenting and teaching and what actually matters in life began to flow away from the schoolish paradigm I'd been used to assuming as Truth.
They are definitely in my top ten list of favorite books.
The story begins in a University, but there is very little of the kind of mainstream school experience the original poster mentioned. The main character Lyra gets some ineffectual tutoring from the scholars there, but most of her learning happens outside of that, and it ends up being a minor thing in a much bigger story.
Lisa Celedon
ROGER PETERS
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