[email protected]

In a message dated 5/17/02 7:19:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< This afternoon she gave me a card. It said "ai no mirumo de
pon". "ai" written in roman alphabet and the rest in "hiragana"
(in the Japanese ps, they first teach this system of writing ).
"ai" means love in Japanese. "mirumo the pon" is one the newest
comic book character dd is in love with. >>

Wow, that is really cool!
I had a friend in HS whose folks were linguists with the University. They had
recordings of him while they were living in Africa (Collin was about 3 at the
time) speaking a pidgeon language he and the little African boys had
contrived out of English and whatever language was spoken in that village.
It was amazing.....kids are amazing.

Also Noemi,
I have a question for you. I realize you are in Japan, not China but maybe
you can point me in the right direction.
I have a ds that is obsessed with China. Chinese dragons, the language,
everything.
He copies Japanese characters from his pokemon card but says that he really
wants to learn Chinese characters. As a person that has not a CLUE about
Asian languages, I don't even know where to start.
I thought about buying the Chinese power glide for him to play around with
when he wants, but that's a lot of money and he may just have a passing
interest.
I want to feed this interest, what do you think about resources?
Ren

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In a message dated 5/17/02 6:52:24 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:

<< I have a ds that is obsessed with China. Chinese dragons, the language,
everything.
<<I want to feed this interest, what do you think about resources? >>


Art stores, libraries, bookstores, should have books on Chinese brush
calligraphy, and there will be characters, although maybe too fancy to follow
in some cases.

We had a library book out for a while that showed the 'etymology' of some
Chinese characters--what the literal meaning was, and what the character has
evolved to be. It only had thirty characters or so--a kids' version.

Internet??

Sandra

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On Fri, 17 May 2002 08:51:00 EDT starsuncloud@... writes:

> ...I have a ds that is obsessed with China. Chinese dragons, the
> language,
> everything.
> ...I want to feed this interest, what do you think about resources?

Ren,

When Dylan was very interested in Japanese culture I wrote to the
Japanese Consulate in Seattle, ( the nearest one ) and asked for "stuff".
They sent magazines in Japanese and English, posters, a flag,
newspapers, fliers, brochures, a computer game about Japan. Best of all
was access to their lending library. It's free, all you pay is postage,
and they have books, videos, cassettes, etc.
It's been a wonderful resource for us and all of it free. Maybe if you
contact the Chinese Consulate, they'd do the same for you.

You can also find printable pages on the Internet of Chinese characters,
for writing practice.

If you want to try Power Glide ( we have Japanese ) look for it on Ebay,
they are sometimes a better price there, or check some of the homeschool
swap boards. We really like the Japanese Power Glide and Dylan listens
to it a few times a week.

A university in your area might have a Chinese student club. We found
one in a town near us and one of the Japanese students was even nice
enough to come to Dylan's Karate class and talk to all the kids. The
university in Missoula, about eighty four miles away has a cultural food
festival every year and it's a great place to talk to the students from
other countries.

There are also Chinese restaurants, and grocery stores. Is he old enough
to work a few hours a week? That'd be a fun way to gain exposure to a
new language.

Deb L

Elizabeth Hill

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> We had a library book out for a while that showed the 'etymology' of
> some
> Chinese characters--what the literal meaning was, and what the
> character has
> evolved to be. It only had thirty characters or so--a kids' version.

Are the symbols called "ideographs" or am I remembering wrong?

I saw a book like this as a teen, and what sticks with me is that the
ideograph for trouble was constructed from symbols meaning literally
"two women under one roof".

I'm thinking, if we hurry, we could probably make up a cool ideograph
for "flame war" in the internet sense.

Betsy


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Nancy Wooton

on 5/17/02 9:14 AM, Elizabeth Hill at ecsamhill@... wrote:

>> We had a library book out for a while that showed the 'etymology' of
>> some
>> Chinese characters--what the literal meaning was, and what the
>> character has
>> evolved to be. It only had thirty characters or so--a kids' version.
>
> Are the symbols called "ideographs" or am I remembering wrong?
>
> I saw a book like this as a teen, and what sticks with me is that the
> ideograph for trouble was constructed from symbols meaning literally
> "two women under one roof".
>
I read recently that the one for learning is a child having something poured
into his head by an adult.

> I'm thinking, if we hurry, we could probably make up a cool ideograph
> for "flame war" in the internet sense.

So emoticons are modern ideographs? ;-)

Nancy

Elizabeth Hill

Nancy Wooton wrote:

>
>
> So emoticons are modern ideographs? ;-)
>

I reckon. :-)

But, woops, my dictionary says they are called ideograms. But *using
them* would be ideography.

The keyboard characters that are sometimes used for cursing, !@#$%^&*,
are also considered ideograms. (Don't ask me why!)

Betsy


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Sharon Rudd

Would a repetitive symbol be an idiotic?
Sharon of the SwampXXXXXXXXX000000000000


> > So emoticons are modern ideographs? ;-)
> >
>
> I reckon. :-)
>
> But, woops, my dictionary says they are called
> ideograms. But *using
> them* would be ideography.
>
> The keyboard characters that are sometimes used for
> cursing, !@#$%^&*,
> are also considered ideograms. (Don't ask me why!)


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