tick report
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In a message dated 5/16/02 3:00:55 PM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< Oh...New Mexico only has Texas ticks? not New Mexico
ticks? :-) >>
I've never had a tick, ever, and have been here since 1960.
Marty had one, which was caught in moments, and it was when he had gone to
Moriarty (east...toward Clovis, and Texas... <g>). I wasn't there, so I have
never yet seen a tick on a child. (Holly says it was Marty; I thought it had
been Kirby, but she was there and I wasn't.)
My husband used to hike and camp a LOT in southern New Mexico (near
Alamogordo). I'll go ask him if he's had ticks.
He says he knows there are wood ticks there but he's never been bitten by one.
Sandra
<< Oh...New Mexico only has Texas ticks? not New Mexico
ticks? :-) >>
I've never had a tick, ever, and have been here since 1960.
Marty had one, which was caught in moments, and it was when he had gone to
Moriarty (east...toward Clovis, and Texas... <g>). I wasn't there, so I have
never yet seen a tick on a child. (Holly says it was Marty; I thought it had
been Kirby, but she was there and I wasn't.)
My husband used to hike and camp a LOT in southern New Mexico (near
Alamogordo). I'll go ask him if he's had ticks.
He says he knows there are wood ticks there but he's never been bitten by one.
Sandra
Cottonwood Farm
Just to further elaborate on the NM "tick report".......we've been living in the southwest (CO/NM border area) for 15 plus years and have never gotten a tick. We've probably spent more daylight hours outside than inside.....the majority of the time by rivers and trees. Actually........ one of my two year olds had a tick the size of cherry pit behind his ear (well........not quite that large) but that tick hitchhiked back from Kansas (now there's a place with TICKS) with us.
Catherine
Catherine
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] tick report
In a message dated 5/16/02 3:00:55 PM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< Oh...New Mexico only has Texas ticks? not New Mexico
ticks? :-) >>
I've never had a tick, ever, and have been here since 1960.
Marty had one, which was caught in moments, and it was when he had gone to
Moriarty (east...toward Clovis, and Texas... <g>). I wasn't there, so I have
never yet seen a tick on a child. (Holly says it was Marty; I thought it had
been Kirby, but she was there and I wasn't.)
My husband used to hike and camp a LOT in southern New Mexico (near
Alamogordo). I'll go ask him if he's had ticks.
He says he knows there are wood ticks there but he's never been bitten by one.
Sandra
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Joylyn
The only tick I ever saw was in California, and I was raised in NM and
did much camping there. Didn't I tell that story here? It was my dog,
she had this thing--I thought it was maybe a growth--on her forhead. I
rushed her to the emergency vet, knowing as I drove there that it woudl
be $100 minimum because it was 11 at night. I took her in, all in a
panic, and the vet looked at the bump and did his best not to laugh. He
took a match, blew it out and put the hot end to the rear of the tick
and the tick backed out. He pulled the rest of it, showed me it was a
tick, and sent me on my way, didn't charge me a thing. I think he got
his payment in his laughter of me.
Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico either. No fleas there
either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn
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did much camping there. Didn't I tell that story here? It was my dog,
she had this thing--I thought it was maybe a growth--on her forhead. I
rushed her to the emergency vet, knowing as I drove there that it woudl
be $100 minimum because it was 11 at night. I took her in, all in a
panic, and the vet looked at the bump and did his best not to laugh. He
took a match, blew it out and put the hot end to the rear of the tick
and the tick backed out. He pulled the rest of it, showed me it was a
tick, and sent me on my way, didn't charge me a thing. I think he got
his payment in his laughter of me.
Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico either. No fleas there
either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn
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> In a message dated 5/16/02 3:00:55 PM, bearspawprint@... writes:
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> << Oh...New Mexico only has Texas ticks? not New Mexico
> ticks? :-) >>
>
> I've never had a tick, ever, and have been here since 1960.
> Marty had one, which was caught in moments, and it was when he had
> gone to
> Moriarty (east...toward Clovis, and Texas... <g>). I wasn't there, so
> I have
> never yet seen a tick on a child. (Holly says it was Marty; I thought
> it had
> been Kirby, but she was there and I wasn't.)
>
> My husband used to hike and camp a LOT in southern New Mexico (near
> Alamogordo). I'll go ask him if he's had ticks.
>
> He says he knows there are wood ticks there but he's never been bitten
> by one.
>
> Sandra
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Karen
Joylyn, don't feel bad. I had a client years ago who brought in his dog to
have a tick removed. He'd tried and tried and it wouldn't come off. After a
quick exam, I tactfully pointed out it was her nipple. I explained it was an
easy mistake to make; I really felt bad for him (and the dog!) The problem
was, the next year he came back for the same thing. May have even been the
same nipple. I was still tactful, but this time he was so mortified I never
saw him again.
Karen
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From: Joylyn [mailto:joylyn@...]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report
The only tick I ever saw was in California, and I was raised in NM and
did much camping there. Didn't I tell that story here? It was my dog,
she had this thing--I thought it was maybe a growth--on her forhead. I
rushed her to the emergency vet, knowing as I drove there that it woudl
be $100 minimum because it was 11 at night. I took her in, all in a
panic, and the vet looked at the bump and did his best not to laugh. He
took a match, blew it out and put the hot end to the rear of the tick
and the tick backed out. He pulled the rest of it, showed me it was a
tick, and sent me on my way, didn't charge me a thing. I think he got
his payment in his laughter of me.
Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico either. No fleas there
either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn
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have a tick removed. He'd tried and tried and it wouldn't come off. After a
quick exam, I tactfully pointed out it was her nipple. I explained it was an
easy mistake to make; I really felt bad for him (and the dog!) The problem
was, the next year he came back for the same thing. May have even been the
same nipple. I was still tactful, but this time he was so mortified I never
saw him again.
Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: Joylyn [mailto:joylyn@...]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report
The only tick I ever saw was in California, and I was raised in NM and
did much camping there. Didn't I tell that story here? It was my dog,
she had this thing--I thought it was maybe a growth--on her forhead. I
rushed her to the emergency vet, knowing as I drove there that it woudl
be $100 minimum because it was 11 at night. I took her in, all in a
panic, and the vet looked at the bump and did his best not to laugh. He
took a match, blew it out and put the hot end to the rear of the tick
and the tick backed out. He pulled the rest of it, showed me it was a
tick, and sent me on my way, didn't charge me a thing. I think he got
his payment in his laughter of me.
Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico either. No fleas there
either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn
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Sharon Rudd
> Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico.............................
> either. No fleas there
> either! Here in california we worry about both.
NO FLEAS where exactly was this?
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Did you keep you dogs and cats restrained to a
particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
pound have no fleas, too? What about the wild
critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
there no dog contact with them?
This just sounds too good to be true. Like my
fantasies of the area :-)
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particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
pound have no fleas, too? What about the wild
critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
there no dog contact with them?
This just sounds too good to be true. Like my
fantasies of the area :-)
Sharon of the Swamp
> No fleas here in Arizona, either.__________________________________________________
> I have 2 dogs (9 and 3 yo) and a cat (14 yo) who
> have NEVER, not even once,
> had fleas.
>
> Karin
>
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In a message dated 5/17/02 7:21:50 AM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< NO FLEAS where exactly was this? >>
New Mexico.
I get flea bits in California. With one friend, I had them from riding in
her car where she carried her saddle blanket and riding boots and suchlike.
Last time I was there, I either got one from a dog or the carpet maybe. One
fleabite. I kept looking at it. <g>
I think because they've been so rare in my life (fleas) I have a worse
reaction to them than I might if they were normal around where I live.
We don't have scorpions from Albuquerque on north. When I was little I lived
in Fort Worth, Texas, and they were around in the house. I stepped on one.
It itched like a new bite for two or three days. Right in the arch of my
foot. Yuck!
After that the only scorpion I saw in Espanola (north of Santa Fe) was one my
dad caught in the back of a truck that had come to his place of work from
Texas. So he brought it for us to look at, but it was not a native New
Mexican.
I know that in the south of the state there are some, but not in the north as
far as I've ever seen or heard.
What we do have that's bad is rare but real: bubonic plague and hunta virus
Both have to do with rodents. But now the doctors here are on them, and can
catch them early. If you pass through New Mexico, tell the kids not to touch
any dead rodents, and not to reach into the nests of deermice. That should
make them safe enough.
Sandra
<< NO FLEAS where exactly was this? >>
New Mexico.
I get flea bits in California. With one friend, I had them from riding in
her car where she carried her saddle blanket and riding boots and suchlike.
Last time I was there, I either got one from a dog or the carpet maybe. One
fleabite. I kept looking at it. <g>
I think because they've been so rare in my life (fleas) I have a worse
reaction to them than I might if they were normal around where I live.
We don't have scorpions from Albuquerque on north. When I was little I lived
in Fort Worth, Texas, and they were around in the house. I stepped on one.
It itched like a new bite for two or three days. Right in the arch of my
foot. Yuck!
After that the only scorpion I saw in Espanola (north of Santa Fe) was one my
dad caught in the back of a truck that had come to his place of work from
Texas. So he brought it for us to look at, but it was not a native New
Mexican.
I know that in the south of the state there are some, but not in the north as
far as I've ever seen or heard.
What we do have that's bad is rare but real: bubonic plague and hunta virus
Both have to do with rodents. But now the doctors here are on them, and can
catch them early. If you pass through New Mexico, tell the kids not to touch
any dead rodents, and not to reach into the nests of deermice. That should
make them safe enough.
Sandra
Karin
> > Anyway, I've never had a tick in New MexicoNo fleas here in Arizona, either.
> > either. No fleas there
> > either! Here in california we worry about both.
> .............................
>
> NO FLEAS where exactly was this?
>
> Sharon of the Swamp
>
I have 2 dogs (9 and 3 yo) and a cat (14 yo) who have NEVER, not even once,
had fleas.
Karin
Sharon Rudd
> I think because they've been so rare in my lifeI react strongly to them (anything with
> (fleas) I have a worse
> reaction to them than I might if they were normal
> around where I live.
anticoagulants..fleas, ticks, mosquitoes) and these
are all abundant in my area :-(
Sharon of the Swamp
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> Did you keep you dogs and cats restrained to aAnimals at the pound probably DO have a likehood of contracting fleas from
> particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
> pound have no fleas, too? What about the wild
> critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
> there no dog contact with them?
>
> This just sounds too good to be true. Like my
> fantasies of the area :-)
>
> Sharon of the Swamp
>
each other.
I think it has to do with dogs/cats that come in from living who-knows-where
and start infesting the other animals.
There must be *some* fleas in AZ. <g>
I'm not sure about wild critters.
But, our dogs live in and around us.
They have free access in and out through a doggie door, which they use all
the time.
Our cat is an inside cat, she just goes outside periodically to roll around
in the sun and on the ground.
So, I guess you could say our dogs *are* restrained to the area around our
house, because it's a fenced yard.
Other than that, no, they live with us.
Karin
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In a message dated 5/17/02 8:31:24 AM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< Did you keep you dogs and cats restrained to a
particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
pound have no fleas, too? >>
???
I don't know.
We had a found puppy once who scratched a lot and we put a flea collar on him
for a while. I never saw a flea, just went with symptoms.
We've used anti-flea puppy shampoo, but not for seeing fleas. Just GPs.
When we camp in the plague areas, we put flea powder on the dog because we
can't tell him not to touch dead rodents.
<<What about the wild
critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
there no dog contact with them?>>
Prairie dogs don't get caught by dogs, in my experience. Coyotes stay by
themselves. So no contact directly.
My cats catch mice, but we hold the cats in our laps a lot and haven't gotten
any fleabites.
What I'm most glad we don't have is chiggers. They are creepy creatures and
make beautiful lush lawns unwalkable, unsittable, and don't even THINK about
lying down in chigger-land.
Sandra
<< Did you keep you dogs and cats restrained to a
particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
pound have no fleas, too? >>
???
I don't know.
We had a found puppy once who scratched a lot and we put a flea collar on him
for a while. I never saw a flea, just went with symptoms.
We've used anti-flea puppy shampoo, but not for seeing fleas. Just GPs.
When we camp in the plague areas, we put flea powder on the dog because we
can't tell him not to touch dead rodents.
<<What about the wild
critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
there no dog contact with them?>>
Prairie dogs don't get caught by dogs, in my experience. Coyotes stay by
themselves. So no contact directly.
My cats catch mice, but we hold the cats in our laps a lot and haven't gotten
any fleabites.
What I'm most glad we don't have is chiggers. They are creepy creatures and
make beautiful lush lawns unwalkable, unsittable, and don't even THINK about
lying down in chigger-land.
Sandra
Dana Matt
I've never seen a flea here in Montana, either...at
least on this side of the state (Deb? Over
there?)--but there are ticks like crazy for a couple
of weeks a year...
Dana
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least on this side of the state (Deb? Over
there?)--but there are ticks like crazy for a couple
of weeks a year...
Dana
Montana Mama
--- Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...> wrote:
>__________________________________________________
> Did you keep you dogs and cats restrained to a
> particular unifested area? Or do the critters at the
> pound have no fleas, too? What about the wild
> critters, coyotes and prarie dogs,hares, etc.? Is
> there no dog contact with them?
>
> This just sounds too good to be true. Like my
> fantasies of the area :-)
>
> Sharon of the Swamp
>
>
> > No fleas here in Arizona, either.
> > I have 2 dogs (9 and 3 yo) and a cat (14 yo) who
> > have NEVER, not even once,
> > had fleas.
> >
> > Karin
> >
> >
>
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>virus
> What we do have that's bad is rare but real: bubonic plague and hunta
> Both have to do with rodents. But now the doctors here are on them, andcan
> catch them early. If you pass through New Mexico, tell the kids not totouch
> any dead rodents, and not to reach into the nests of deermice. Thatshould
> make them safe enough.We have hunta virus in Arizona, too.
>
Some people and animals here get "Valley Fever" which is just in the dust
and dirt.
I think it is some sort of fungal condition.
Our dog got it and ultimately died from the medication he was on to control
it (Nizoral).
People get it too, but I don't think many die from it.
Karin
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 07:47:54 -0700 "Karin" <curtkar@...> writes:
We moved into an adorable little pink one-bedroom house a month and a
half before Rain (The Child Formerly Known As Cacie) was born, in the
older downtown Mesa area. The people living there before us (we lived
half a block down before we loved there, so we knew them) had a mama dog
and a whole litter of puppies, and they didn't seem very well-taken care
of (dog poop not picked up, mama dog's coat messy, etc.). So, since there
was a two week overlap between when we had to leave our old place and
move in to the new one (which we rented for $325 a month, BTW, and it had
great front and back yards) we steam-cleaned and scrubbed and then Dave
chemically de-fleaed the whole place, just in case...
The day we were moving in, we went home to get a load of stuff and came
back and two of the puppies were in our yard! We freaked out for an hour
or so (we had two cats and a dog of our own) and finally found out that
the people who had lived in our house had left these puppies with the
neighbors, saying they would be back to pick them up, but had never
returned, so the neighbors decided that they would just "return" them.
Arggh. We finally got them to take them back and drive them to the animal
shelter, but the damage was apparently done... our cats and dog had fleas
the whole damn time we lived there, 6 months, despite dipping and
spraying and everything we could think of that wouldn't be too toxic for
a baby. I even found a flea on my baby at one point. It was awful. I
think this was before Advantage, which would have helped...
Anyway, we packed up and moved to Chandler (not because of the fleas,
although it was nice to get away from them) and dipped all the critters
as we left, and they didn't reoccur...but I've known other Phoenicians
who had fleas, and ticks, too... when my parenst lived in the Tucson
foothills sitting and de-ticking dogs was a nightly ritual, although they
never had fleas...
Dar, in California, on the farm where the dogs have, yes, fleas
> No fleas here in Arizona, either.You've been lucky....
> I have 2 dogs (9 and 3 yo) and a cat (14 yo) who have NEVER, not
> even once,
> had fleas.
We moved into an adorable little pink one-bedroom house a month and a
half before Rain (The Child Formerly Known As Cacie) was born, in the
older downtown Mesa area. The people living there before us (we lived
half a block down before we loved there, so we knew them) had a mama dog
and a whole litter of puppies, and they didn't seem very well-taken care
of (dog poop not picked up, mama dog's coat messy, etc.). So, since there
was a two week overlap between when we had to leave our old place and
move in to the new one (which we rented for $325 a month, BTW, and it had
great front and back yards) we steam-cleaned and scrubbed and then Dave
chemically de-fleaed the whole place, just in case...
The day we were moving in, we went home to get a load of stuff and came
back and two of the puppies were in our yard! We freaked out for an hour
or so (we had two cats and a dog of our own) and finally found out that
the people who had lived in our house had left these puppies with the
neighbors, saying they would be back to pick them up, but had never
returned, so the neighbors decided that they would just "return" them.
Arggh. We finally got them to take them back and drive them to the animal
shelter, but the damage was apparently done... our cats and dog had fleas
the whole damn time we lived there, 6 months, despite dipping and
spraying and everything we could think of that wouldn't be too toxic for
a baby. I even found a flea on my baby at one point. It was awful. I
think this was before Advantage, which would have helped...
Anyway, we packed up and moved to Chandler (not because of the fleas,
although it was nice to get away from them) and dipped all the critters
as we left, and they didn't reoccur...but I've known other Phoenicians
who had fleas, and ticks, too... when my parenst lived in the Tucson
foothills sitting and de-ticking dogs was a nightly ritual, although they
never had fleas...
Dar, in California, on the farm where the dogs have, yes, fleas
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 08:50:42 -0700 "Karin" <curtkar@...> writes:
name is coccidioidomycosis, or cocci for short. It's a fungus that lives
in the top layer of the desert dust, and most people who have lived in
Arizona for a number of years have had it, although most won't remember
it, and if you've had in once you're generally (although not always)
immune.
I'm sorry about your dog :-( Most dogs (like most humans) recover with
few or no symptoms, but it is occasionally fatal, especially in people
who are immunocompromised.
Dar
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> Some people and animals here get "Valley Fever" which is just in thedust
> and dirt. I think it is some sort of fungal condition.It is (says the Tucson pulmonary pathologist's daughter). The medical
name is coccidioidomycosis, or cocci for short. It's a fungus that lives
in the top layer of the desert dust, and most people who have lived in
Arizona for a number of years have had it, although most won't remember
it, and if you've had in once you're generally (although not always)
immune.
> Our dog got it and ultimately died from the medication he was on tofrom it.
> control it (Nizoral). People get it too, but I don't think many die
I'm sorry about your dog :-( Most dogs (like most humans) recover with
few or no symptoms, but it is occasionally fatal, especially in people
who are immunocompromised.
Dar
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Karen
Well, if there's bubonic plague, there are fleas. It's a bacteria in rat
fleas, and that's how it's spread. Hanta virus is airborne from mouse
droppings.
However, higher elevations don't have very many fleas or mosquitos either
one. And for some reason, I've never seen a scorpion, even though I've lived
in central and North Texas, and SW and central Oklahoma all my life.
Rattlers, centipedes, stinging caterpillars, fleas, ticks, mosquitos, every
kind of wasp, bee, hornet, and yellowjacket there is, but no scorpions. It's
a charmed life, what can I say?
But chiggers... God has some 'splaining to do about those critters.
Karen
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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report : fleas
In a message dated 5/17/02 7:21:50 AM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< NO FLEAS where exactly was this? >>
New Mexico.
I get flea bits in California. With one friend, I had them from riding in
her car where she carried her saddle blanket and riding boots and
suchlike.
Last time I was there, I either got one from a dog or the carpet maybe.
One
fleabite. I kept looking at it. <g>
I think because they've been so rare in my life (fleas) I have a worse
reaction to them than I might if they were normal around where I live.
We don't have scorpions from Albuquerque on north. When I was little I
lived
in Fort Worth, Texas, and they were around in the house. I stepped on
one.
It itched like a new bite for two or three days. Right in the arch of my
foot. Yuck!
After that the only scorpion I saw in Espanola (north of Santa Fe) was one
my
dad caught in the back of a truck that had come to his place of work from
Texas. So he brought it for us to look at, but it was not a native New
Mexican.
I know that in the south of the state there are some, but not in the north
as
far as I've ever seen or heard.
What we do have that's bad is rare but real: bubonic plague and hunta
virus
Both have to do with rodents. But now the doctors here are on them, and
can
catch them early. If you pass through New Mexico, tell the kids not to
touch
any dead rodents, and not to reach into the nests of deermice. That
should
make them safe enough.
Sandra
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fleas, and that's how it's spread. Hanta virus is airborne from mouse
droppings.
However, higher elevations don't have very many fleas or mosquitos either
one. And for some reason, I've never seen a scorpion, even though I've lived
in central and North Texas, and SW and central Oklahoma all my life.
Rattlers, centipedes, stinging caterpillars, fleas, ticks, mosquitos, every
kind of wasp, bee, hornet, and yellowjacket there is, but no scorpions. It's
a charmed life, what can I say?
But chiggers... God has some 'splaining to do about those critters.
Karen
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From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report : fleas
In a message dated 5/17/02 7:21:50 AM, bearspawprint@... writes:
<< NO FLEAS where exactly was this? >>
New Mexico.
I get flea bits in California. With one friend, I had them from riding in
her car where she carried her saddle blanket and riding boots and
suchlike.
Last time I was there, I either got one from a dog or the carpet maybe.
One
fleabite. I kept looking at it. <g>
I think because they've been so rare in my life (fleas) I have a worse
reaction to them than I might if they were normal around where I live.
We don't have scorpions from Albuquerque on north. When I was little I
lived
in Fort Worth, Texas, and they were around in the house. I stepped on
one.
It itched like a new bite for two or three days. Right in the arch of my
foot. Yuck!
After that the only scorpion I saw in Espanola (north of Santa Fe) was one
my
dad caught in the back of a truck that had come to his place of work from
Texas. So he brought it for us to look at, but it was not a native New
Mexican.
I know that in the south of the state there are some, but not in the north
as
far as I've ever seen or heard.
What we do have that's bad is rare but real: bubonic plague and hunta
virus
Both have to do with rodents. But now the doctors here are on them, and
can
catch them early. If you pass through New Mexico, tell the kids not to
touch
any dead rodents, and not to reach into the nests of deermice. That
should
make them safe enough.
Sandra
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Karin
> The people living there before us (we livedThis must have been the main problem, IMO.
> half a block down before we loved there, so we knew them) had a mama dog
> and a whole litter of puppies, and they didn't seem very well-taken care
> of (dog poop not picked up, mama dog's coat messy, etc.).
We've always taken good care of our animals, and so far so good.
We haven't experienced any ticks, either.
But you're right, we may just live in a "lucky" area of town. <g>
Karin
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On Fri, 17 May 2002 08:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Dana Matt
<hoffmanwilson@...> writes:
with them, but have never had a problem with my own. I believe the
winters are too cold for flea eggs to survive.
There are about two weeks in spring when the ticks are bad, not bad like
they are in the south, but bad enough, and after that they are not much
of a problem. We hike and take the dog and she's never had a tick.
Not much problem with heart worm here, yet.
Montana has had a few, maybe six? cases of Haunta virus. Mostly folks
cleaning out old barns, etc.
There was a plague outbreak in a prairie dog community last year or the
year before in eastern MT, but I don't remember any human cases.
The big scare this year is West Nile virus, expected at least as far
north and west as South Dakota, but we are told to be watchful here in
MT.
Deb L
<hoffmanwilson@...> writes:
> I've never seen a flea here in Montana, either...atI have heard of dogs moving here from somewhere else and bringing fleas
> least on this side of the state (Deb? Over
> there?)
with them, but have never had a problem with my own. I believe the
winters are too cold for flea eggs to survive.
There are about two weeks in spring when the ticks are bad, not bad like
they are in the south, but bad enough, and after that they are not much
of a problem. We hike and take the dog and she's never had a tick.
Not much problem with heart worm here, yet.
Montana has had a few, maybe six? cases of Haunta virus. Mostly folks
cleaning out old barns, etc.
There was a plague outbreak in a prairie dog community last year or the
year before in eastern MT, but I don't remember any human cases.
The big scare this year is West Nile virus, expected at least as far
north and west as South Dakota, but we are told to be watchful here in
MT.
Deb L
Sharon Rudd
> The big scare this year is West Nile virus, expectedWe vaccinate our horses for this, for a year already,
> at least as far
> north and west as South Dakota, but we are told to
> be watchful here in
> MT.
nearby horses have died. I view our chickens as
sentinal chickens....nobody has it yet. But people
have contracted it in bordering counties. It is
mosquitoe vectored....but only one kind of mosquitoe,
the "tree-hole" mosquitoe. That is the kind that like
small, dark puddles, such as old beer cans, bottles,
areas under steps, holes in trees.....and they don't
like real cold winters, but can winter over in
basements and such. The breeding of these mosquitoes
in cold winter places is completely preventable. but
difficult. (I've been reading up on mosquitoes). I
asked out physician about prophylatic immunization for
people...not available. But horse have it.?????????
Sharon of the Swamp
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From: Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report : fleas : West Nile
Date: Fri, May 17, 2002, 1:41 PM
I
asked out physician about prophylatic immunization for
people...not available. But horse have it.?????????
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Pam
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From: Sharon Rudd <bearspawprint@...>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] tick report : fleas : West Nile
Date: Fri, May 17, 2002, 1:41 PM
I
asked out physician about prophylatic immunization for
people...not available. But horse have it.?????????
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Sharon Rudd
>Oooops we have those too. Though not as much as
> What I'm most glad we don't have is chiggers. They
> are creepy creatures and
> make beautiful lush lawns unwalkable, unsittable,
> and don't even THINK about
> lying down in chigger-land.
sunnier sites (lots of shade just here)
Sharon of the Swamp
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<<Anyway, I've never had a tick in New Mexico either. No fleas there
either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn>>
I lived in San Diego for 27 years and only had one tick, so tiny it
looked like a speck of dirt. As for fleas, the Native Americans in that
area used to burn their shelters every year and relocate due to the
fleas. They are like a plague there.
Kris
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either! Here in california we worry about both.
Joylyn>>
I lived in San Diego for 27 years and only had one tick, so tiny it
looked like a speck of dirt. As for fleas, the Native Americans in that
area used to burn their shelters every year and relocate due to the
fleas. They are like a plague there.
Kris
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My brother works for vector control in Bend, OR. and has been sending
Dylan charts and books for mosquito identification. We identified two
kinds last year that were growing in our rain barrels. The larvae are
very interesting to look at under a microscope. Dylan can look at some
kinds of mosquitos now, when they land somewhere, and tell what they are.
They all still look the same to me...
Deb L
On Fri, 17 May 2002 13:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Sharon Rudd
<bearspawprint@...> writes:
Dylan charts and books for mosquito identification. We identified two
kinds last year that were growing in our rain barrels. The larvae are
very interesting to look at under a microscope. Dylan can look at some
kinds of mosquitos now, when they land somewhere, and tell what they are.
They all still look the same to me...
Deb L
On Fri, 17 May 2002 13:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Sharon Rudd
<bearspawprint@...> writes:
> We vaccinate our horses for this, for a year already,
> nearby horses have died. I view our chickens as
> sentinal chickens....nobody has it yet. But people
> have contracted it in bordering counties. It is
> mosquitoe vectored....but only one kind of mosquitoe,
> the "tree-hole" mosquitoe. That is the kind that like
> small, dark puddles, such as old beer cans, bottles,
> areas under steps, holes in trees.....and they don't
> like real cold winters, but can winter over in
> basements and such. The breeding of these mosquitoes
> in cold winter places is completely preventable. but
> difficult. (I've been reading up on mosquitoes). I
> asked out physician about prophylatic immunization for
> people...not available. But horse have it.?????????
> Sharon of the Swamp
carolyn
Years ago I was bitten by a flea from a dog in South America, the pet
of the family I was living with and I got Rocky Mountain Spotting Fever.
I might have died since the spots had climbed up my legs and were above
my waist by the time gynocologist back in the U.S. thought he remembered
something about a lecture in medical school and, dug out his book and
.... here I am. (Some other wacky doctor said I had blood clots which
is why I was at the gyno in the first place, but that's another story.)
Carolyn
of the family I was living with and I got Rocky Mountain Spotting Fever.
I might have died since the spots had climbed up my legs and were above
my waist by the time gynocologist back in the U.S. thought he remembered
something about a lecture in medical school and, dug out his book and
.... here I am. (Some other wacky doctor said I had blood clots which
is why I was at the gyno in the first place, but that's another story.)
Carolyn
Nancy Wooton
on 5/17/02 4:06 PM, louisam1@... at louisam1@... wrote:
years, thanks to that particular advance in technology :-)
I read an ad for a product for horses, similar to Program, which breaks the
life cycle of *flies*. THAT's a miracle.
Nancy in San Diego -- flealess at our house, at least!
> I lived in San Diego for 27 years and only had one tick, so tiny itFrontline, Advantage, Frontline, Advantage..... Haven't seen a flea in 4
> looked like a speck of dirt. As for fleas, the Native Americans in that
> area used to burn their shelters every year and relocate due to the
> fleas. They are like a plague there.
years, thanks to that particular advance in technology :-)
I read an ad for a product for horses, similar to Program, which breaks the
life cycle of *flies*. THAT's a miracle.
Nancy in San Diego -- flealess at our house, at least!
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In a message dated 5/17/02 1:54:19 PM, kbmatlock@... writes:
<< Well, if there's bubonic plague, there are fleas. It's a bacteria in rat
fleas, >>
It was in europe in the Middle Ages, but here it's fleas on dead rodents in
the mountains.
There might be fleas on dead rodents in the mountains (and they're not rats,
they're mice and prairie dogs and ground squirrels), but they're not healthy
and roaming the world, and the're not in town as far as I can tell.
NO doubt vets and the animal shelter know a lot of fleas personally, but
because of the dryness and scatteredness of all the mammals (much more empty
space than people or animals) the fleas aren't happy and healthy here as they
seem to be in some other places.
Rats are not at all common here either. I've never seen one in my life (not
counting pet stores) and never known anyone who had any in a home or barn.
Mice, lots. Rats, no. Probably exterminators know some personally, but I
never have known anyone to know of any in New Mexico.
Plague is very rare, a handful of cases a year. If untreated it can turn to
pneumonic plague, which can then be passed airborne. That's the level which
caused it to kill so many people in the Middle Ages. They didn't have to all
get it from fleas individually. Once some people were to they about-to-die
stage they could just cough it all over each other.
Sandra
<< Well, if there's bubonic plague, there are fleas. It's a bacteria in rat
fleas, >>
It was in europe in the Middle Ages, but here it's fleas on dead rodents in
the mountains.
There might be fleas on dead rodents in the mountains (and they're not rats,
they're mice and prairie dogs and ground squirrels), but they're not healthy
and roaming the world, and the're not in town as far as I can tell.
NO doubt vets and the animal shelter know a lot of fleas personally, but
because of the dryness and scatteredness of all the mammals (much more empty
space than people or animals) the fleas aren't happy and healthy here as they
seem to be in some other places.
Rats are not at all common here either. I've never seen one in my life (not
counting pet stores) and never known anyone who had any in a home or barn.
Mice, lots. Rats, no. Probably exterminators know some personally, but I
never have known anyone to know of any in New Mexico.
Plague is very rare, a handful of cases a year. If untreated it can turn to
pneumonic plague, which can then be passed airborne. That's the level which
caused it to kill so many people in the Middle Ages. They didn't have to all
get it from fleas individually. Once some people were to they about-to-die
stage they could just cough it all over each other.
Sandra
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<<Frontline, Advantage, Frontline, Advantage..... Haven't seen a flea in
4
years, thanks to that particular advance in technology :-)
I read an ad for a product for horses, similar to Program, which breaks
the
life cycle of *flies*. THAT's a miracle.
Nancy in San Diego -- flealess at our house, at least!>>
We are in Oregon now, fleas still a problem but we use Advantage and
agree that it's close to a miracle. We also use a spray called Knock
Out, works wonders and fairly safe for the kiddos being made from
chrysanthemums. Here, at least, we only need these controls for about 3
months out of the year.
Kris
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years, thanks to that particular advance in technology :-)
I read an ad for a product for horses, similar to Program, which breaks
the
life cycle of *flies*. THAT's a miracle.
Nancy in San Diego -- flealess at our house, at least!>>
We are in Oregon now, fleas still a problem but we use Advantage and
agree that it's close to a miracle. We also use a spray called Knock
Out, works wonders and fairly safe for the kiddos being made from
chrysanthemums. Here, at least, we only need these controls for about 3
months out of the year.
Kris
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Plague is very rare,
A very good point. It is there, but still rare, even
in the wild (from what I have read) And treatable.
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in the wild (from what I have read) And treatable.
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> Years ago I was bitten by a flea from a dog inAnother myth debunked.....I thought Rocky Mountain
> South America, the pet
> of the family I was living with and I got Rocky
> Mountain Spotting Fever.
Spotted Fever was confined to the Rocky Mts. If it is
in South America, it could be anywhere!!! Likewise
Lymes Disease. My daughter in law got that. :-( She
has some chronic nerve problems from that pathogen.
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moonmeghan
<<<<?.q?lwaysLearning@y..., "Karen" <kbmatlock@a...>
wrote:
didn't try very hard to get it out before I took Smudge to the vet (I
didn't burn it or pull at it). I was so embarrassed when the vet
pointed out that it was a nipple. Luckily, I already had an
appointment to get his boosters done. So while I was there, I
mentioned that he had, what I thought was, a tick. At least now I
know it's his nipple and I certainly won't make the same mistake
again!
Meghan
wrote:
> Joylyn, don't feel bad. I had a client years ago who brought inhis dog to
> have a tick removed. He'd tried and tried and it wouldn't comeoff. After a
> quick exam, I tactfully pointed out it was her nipple. I explainedit was an
> easy mistake to make; I really felt bad for him (and the dog!)The problem
> was, the next year he came back for the same thing. May haveeven been the
> same nipple. I was still tactful, but this time he was somortified I never
> saw him again.ROTFL! This is what happened to me! Although I have to say, I
>
> Karen>>>>
didn't try very hard to get it out before I took Smudge to the vet (I
didn't burn it or pull at it). I was so embarrassed when the vet
pointed out that it was a nipple. Luckily, I already had an
appointment to get his boosters done. So while I was there, I
mentioned that he had, what I thought was, a tick. At least now I
know it's his nipple and I certainly won't make the same mistake
again!
Meghan