Questioning College
JustSayin
My DH and I were talking this morning about the failure of college to prepare people for jobs in the "real world", and for the many irrelevant classes people are forced to endure (and pay for) just to get that piece of paper.
Lo and behold Yahoo runs an article today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110529/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_college_scholarship
--Melissa
Lo and behold Yahoo runs an article today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110529/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_college_scholarship
--Melissa
Priscilla Sanstead
Questioning college? Yes, we are, also.
One of the most interesting of the Thiel fellows (to dd18 and I)is Dale Stephens, who just founded Uncollege. He left school in 6th grade and was unschooled. He recently dropped out of his freshman year at Hendrix College, dismayed by the lack of passion and curiosity in his fellow students. It's certainly not confined to Hendrix, though; he makes that clear. After winter break conversations with a friend from an Ivy League school who was also disappointed with the college experience, he began developing his idea. He now has followers from all over the world, as well as speaking engagements everywhere, and a book in progress.
We've been following Dale and Uncollege closely. His Facebook pages are Uncollege [education] and Uncollege [group]. We are currently enjoying reading all the links to articles questioning college and the very lively discussions.
Also:
dalejstephens.com
uncollege.org
The questioning, doubting, and negative comments to articles about Dale or Uncollege will be familiar to many unschoolers. It takes a certain kind of early adopter / think-outside-the-box mindset to question the value of going to college. Most unschoolers have probably heard those same arguments against *their* alternate path out of K-12; most probably will "get" the idea of Uncollege.
Priscilla Sanstead
- On Mon, 5/30/11, JustSayin <mfcappella@...> wrote:
From: JustSayin <mfcappella@...>
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Questioning College
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 4:43 PM
My DH and I were talking this morning about the failure of college to prepare people for jobs in the "real world", and for the many irrelevant classes people are forced to endure (and pay for) just to get that piece of paper.
Lo and behold Yahoo runs an article today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110529/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_college_scholarship
--Melissa
One of the most interesting of the Thiel fellows (to dd18 and I)is Dale Stephens, who just founded Uncollege. He left school in 6th grade and was unschooled. He recently dropped out of his freshman year at Hendrix College, dismayed by the lack of passion and curiosity in his fellow students. It's certainly not confined to Hendrix, though; he makes that clear. After winter break conversations with a friend from an Ivy League school who was also disappointed with the college experience, he began developing his idea. He now has followers from all over the world, as well as speaking engagements everywhere, and a book in progress.
We've been following Dale and Uncollege closely. His Facebook pages are Uncollege [education] and Uncollege [group]. We are currently enjoying reading all the links to articles questioning college and the very lively discussions.
Also:
dalejstephens.com
uncollege.org
The questioning, doubting, and negative comments to articles about Dale or Uncollege will be familiar to many unschoolers. It takes a certain kind of early adopter / think-outside-the-box mindset to question the value of going to college. Most unschoolers have probably heard those same arguments against *their* alternate path out of K-12; most probably will "get" the idea of Uncollege.
Priscilla Sanstead
- On Mon, 5/30/11, JustSayin <mfcappella@...> wrote:
From: JustSayin <mfcappella@...>
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Questioning College
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 4:43 PM
My DH and I were talking this morning about the failure of college to prepare people for jobs in the "real world", and for the many irrelevant classes people are forced to endure (and pay for) just to get that piece of paper.
Lo and behold Yahoo runs an article today:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110529/ap_on_re_us/us_anti_college_scholarship
--Melissa
Sandra Dodd
-=Most unschoolers have probably heard those same arguments against *their* alternate path out of K-12; most probably will "get" the idea of Uncollege. -=-
Blake Boles is gathering up to do a zero-tuition college, and hangs out with unschoolers all the time, though he himself "did school."
http://www.ztcollege.com/blog/
http://www.edu-hacker.com/
I think that will be a stepping stone for some people to accept the idea that some people live in the real world directly, without the need for college OR alternative college.
Sandra
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Blake Boles is gathering up to do a zero-tuition college, and hangs out with unschoolers all the time, though he himself "did school."
http://www.ztcollege.com/blog/
http://www.edu-hacker.com/
I think that will be a stepping stone for some people to accept the idea that some people live in the real world directly, without the need for college OR alternative college.
Sandra
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dola dasgupta-banerji
Yes cool, I just went through this and have passed it on to unschoolers and
'walkouts' on the Indian network...
I really liked what Blake wrote on his blog....
Dola
'walkouts' on the Indian network...
I really liked what Blake wrote on his blog....
Dola
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
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> -=Most unschoolers have probably heard those same arguments against *their*
> alternate path out of K-12; most probably will "get" the idea of Uncollege.
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> Blake Boles is gathering up to do a zero-tuition college, and hangs out
> with unschoolers all the time, though he himself "did school."
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> http://www.ztcollege.com/blog/
> http://www.edu-hacker.com/
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> I think that will be a stepping stone for some people to accept the idea
> that some people live in the real world directly, without the need for
> college OR alternative college.
>
> Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
-=-'walkouts'-=-
In India, would "walkout" refer to a younger person (who might be called "a school refuser" in some other places)?
Or is it a term for someone who opts out of going to the university, or leaves university studies?
I'm interested in getting other places' terminology clear. :-)
I'm a three-time graduate-school dropout myself.
Sandra
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In India, would "walkout" refer to a younger person (who might be called "a school refuser" in some other places)?
Or is it a term for someone who opts out of going to the university, or leaves university studies?
I'm interested in getting other places' terminology clear. :-)
I'm a three-time graduate-school dropout myself.
Sandra
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dola dasgupta-banerji
In India a 'walkout' is one who refuses to go to university mostly, but it
is increasingly being used for adults who are refusing to be in
mono-dimensional jobs or careers and opting for multi diversity and living
without future savings and insurance and investments. I recently even heard
a new word called 'unjobbing'!!!!
Dola
is increasingly being used for adults who are refusing to be in
mono-dimensional jobs or careers and opting for multi diversity and living
without future savings and insurance and investments. I recently even heard
a new word called 'unjobbing'!!!!
Dola
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
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> -=-'walkouts'-=-
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> In India, would "walkout" refer to a younger person (who might be called "a
> school refuser" in some other places)?
> Or is it a term for someone who opts out of going to the university, or
> leaves university studies?
>
> I'm interested in getting other places' terminology clear. :-)
>
> I'm a three-time graduate-school dropout myself.
>
> Sandra
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