Hello Sandra
troubadour4me
I am keeping up with the topic of being in the south and how the people treat you whether you are christian or not or what church you go to(if you do).
I have a small question if you don't mind, I am from New York and have moved here to florida in the early 90's having found out how true it is as too whether you are accepted or not in a small town if your christian. I'm not but i do have a friend that is and so much of what she says shocks me because i find it to be silly and illogical.
Like,the wine Jesus and others drank wasn't fermented and achohol drinking is a sin. Well,isn't the definition of wine fermented grapes?
They should call it grape juice right? I never dispute what she says to keep her friendship but that feels like lying to myself ya know? Like this:
She was visiting one day and my son was joking around saying he was the king of the house and she said no,your daddy is the king of the house!
How would you respond to that?
Heather
I have a small question if you don't mind, I am from New York and have moved here to florida in the early 90's having found out how true it is as too whether you are accepted or not in a small town if your christian. I'm not but i do have a friend that is and so much of what she says shocks me because i find it to be silly and illogical.
Like,the wine Jesus and others drank wasn't fermented and achohol drinking is a sin. Well,isn't the definition of wine fermented grapes?
They should call it grape juice right? I never dispute what she says to keep her friendship but that feels like lying to myself ya know? Like this:
She was visiting one day and my son was joking around saying he was the king of the house and she said no,your daddy is the king of the house!
How would you respond to that?
Heather
Sandra Dodd
-=-Like,the wine Jesus and others drank wasn't fermented and achohol
drinking is a sin. Well,isn't the definition of wine fermented grapes?-
=-
It's illogical maybe, but it's not silly. It has all sorts of solid
historical bases in the history of Protestantism and American morality.
There are mentions of dancing in the Bible, too, but Baptists shun
dancers and dancing pretty much. My dad was pushing the envelope to
go out and dance the two-step at honky-tonks, with his mother being as
religious as she was.
-=-I am from New York and have moved here to florida in the early 90's
having found out how true it is as too whether you are accepted or not
in a small town if your christian. -=-
You must be in Northern Florida. They say Florida isn't really "the
South." (just joking, partly...)
-=-I never dispute what she says to keep her friendship but that feels
like lying to myself ya know? Like this:
She was visiting one day and my son was joking around saying he was
the king of the house and she said no,your daddy is the king of the
house!
How would you respond to that? -=-
If it were me... I would just smile and change the subject politely.
Maybe after she leaves, explain to your son (if you can; if you
understand it) why the friend believes that way. Don't tell him it's
silly and illogical. He'll know you don't agree with it, but you
could explain her side to him so that as he gets older he can avoid
baiting her. Some things could be offensive and the older he gets,
the more they will judge him by his own behavior and blame the mom.
Sandra
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drinking is a sin. Well,isn't the definition of wine fermented grapes?-
=-
It's illogical maybe, but it's not silly. It has all sorts of solid
historical bases in the history of Protestantism and American morality.
There are mentions of dancing in the Bible, too, but Baptists shun
dancers and dancing pretty much. My dad was pushing the envelope to
go out and dance the two-step at honky-tonks, with his mother being as
religious as she was.
-=-I am from New York and have moved here to florida in the early 90's
having found out how true it is as too whether you are accepted or not
in a small town if your christian. -=-
You must be in Northern Florida. They say Florida isn't really "the
South." (just joking, partly...)
-=-I never dispute what she says to keep her friendship but that feels
like lying to myself ya know? Like this:
She was visiting one day and my son was joking around saying he was
the king of the house and she said no,your daddy is the king of the
house!
How would you respond to that? -=-
If it were me... I would just smile and change the subject politely.
Maybe after she leaves, explain to your son (if you can; if you
understand it) why the friend believes that way. Don't tell him it's
silly and illogical. He'll know you don't agree with it, but you
could explain her side to him so that as he gets older he can avoid
baiting her. Some things could be offensive and the older he gets,
the more they will judge him by his own behavior and blame the mom.
Sandra
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plaidpanties666
"troubadour4me" <ronniegreek@...> wrote:
If it really feels like lying, then maybe that's not a friendship worth holding on to. If you can step past the idea of lying, though, to accepting that you can't change her or her opinions and its not going to help anything to try, then the relationship might work better. Can you agree to avoid talking about religion?
---Meredith (Mo 9, Ray 16)
>> She was visiting one day and my son was joking around saying he was the king of the house and she said no,your daddy is the king of the house!Something I've learned to say when another adult is "correcting" one if my kids is "It's okay with me (if he/she does/says that)." That's really circumstantial, though. There are things that are totally fine in my house but not someone else's or in public - and beyond that things that will draw the wrong kind of attention in public which *I* might be okay with under certain circumstances, but may make a friend uncomfortable. Swearing comes to mind as an example - if a friend of mine told Mo not to swear in public I wouldn't say "its okay with me" although I would talk about that with Mo at some point.
> How would you respond to that?
>>I never dispute what she says to keep her friendship but that feels like lying to myself ya know?***************
If it really feels like lying, then maybe that's not a friendship worth holding on to. If you can step past the idea of lying, though, to accepting that you can't change her or her opinions and its not going to help anything to try, then the relationship might work better. Can you agree to avoid talking about religion?
---Meredith (Mo 9, Ray 16)