I'm back
Shyrley
Right, I'm back from the desert of no-mail having succeeded in annoying most
home-schoolers in this state :-)
Did ya miss me?
Shyrley
home-schoolers in this state :-)
Did ya miss me?
Shyrley
Sharon Rudd
> Did ya miss me?Yes.
Sharon of the Swamp
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Shyrley
I'm back.
Anyone coming to my house tomorrow?
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Anyone coming to my house tomorrow?
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Robin <[email protected]>
Greetings fello homeschoolers,
I have to vent to someone, I thought this is a good, safe place to
find some understanding women.
Once again, I was faced with a situation that labeled me as a
homemaker. But, what I really mean is someone basically saying "Just
a homemaker." I hope what I'm saying makes sense. I hate it when
someone asks me "What do you do?" And then when I give the
answer, "Homeschooling Mom," or "Homemaker," I am given that look and
then a fake reply of "That's nice..." Usually, because this person is
working behind a counter when they ask. I have to add here though, I
have just recently run into more and more women who honestly say
positive things like, "Oh, I don't blame you for homeschooling",
or "I would do the same if I didn't have to work," so times are
changing! Still, I'm fed up with people making me feel like I'm no
one because I don't have a working title after my name!
When we sat down at the table at the Title company to sign on our new
house, we found out that the mortgage broker (who up to this point we
only communicated with over the phone) had planned the mortgage in my
dh's name, only. We always put both names on the mortgage, and I was
angry. Mark had done all the talking with him except for one phone
call that I made and he was very condescending to me, almost
sarcastic. The title company woman called him to see why only Marks
name was on the documents, and he said he assumed because Mark was
the sole provider, and the one he always spoke with, the mortgage was
to be in his name! UGH!!! Oh, I see, because I don't punch a clock,
and have a respectable title to put in the occupation box, I'm
NOBODY! I have been upset over this ever since. Now we have to go
through the trouble of a quit-claim deed to get my name on the house!
I'm am so livid!
I've paid my dues. I worked and went to college when my firstborn was
growing up. I landed that great corporate job, that society tried to
made me think was so important. All I ended up feeling was guilty for
having to work when all I wanted to do was be there for my daughter.
I'm not knocking women who work and do it all, I've been there, I
know it's do-able, and I'm jealous that you have that little by-line
after your name: secretary, supervisor...
But, why isn't it just as respectable to say I'm a homemaker, mother,
homeschool teacher? I want some credit!! Why, when asked, what we
do, can't we say "I'm my kids Mom," as Dr. Laura says, and that
answer bring on some sort of "Ahh, what a great job," with a look of
respect and appreciation on the askers face? What in the heck has
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. Now society's
attitude is one that believes anyone can make a home and raise kids.
It's a real woman who can keep house, raise kids and hold a job, so,
if "all you do" is raise your kids, then you are looked upon as if
you have no skills, or intelligence.
I think I'll send Mr. Mortgage Man a letter telling him, I am not
just a stay-at-home Mom, I'm a crusader! I'm working every day from
the moment my feet touch the floor until the second my head hits the
pillow, and then sometimes a few times during those supposed sleeping
hours. I work every minute of every day, with no government
regulated, mandatory coffee breaks, no sick days, no weekends, no
holidays off. And, contrary to popular belief, my job doesn't just
consist of dishing out macaroni and cheese and wiping noses. My job
requires I think before I speak, always. I must research constantly
because I am not given a set of rules that, if followed, will keep me
moving up the company ladder. I'm given a barrage of information from
all different sources and it's up to me to decide what is right for
my family, and what is wrong. I must decide how to guide my children
morally and ethically while not sheltering them too much from the
craziness this world has become. Stress? Well, my job has it's fair
share. The difference is, I can't leave it all and come home each
day. It's with me constantly as I lay in bed exhausted and wondering
if I made the right decisions with each day. I've accepted the
horrendous, slave-like, working conditions because I know the deeper
reasons for taking this job. This job that has no accountability in
society's eyes. This job with no paycheck. I'm working to put a dent
in society, help to change it for the better. I'm working to create
children who one day will be adults that are capable, well rounded,
and strong. Adults who will feel confident, loved and compassionate
about what they believe in. Adults who have real moral values. Adults
who aren't afraid to work hard to achieve what they want, and who
understand working hard is honorable. I'm working to change society,
and hopefully, as my husband said, I'm one of the few in the spear
head, piercing through this mess that has become accepted as normal
in our society. One of the few who have taken my job seriously, very
seriously. I'm a spear head. My job is creating a future, better
world. It is unfortunate, that people like you, Mr. Mortgage Man,
cannot see farther than your upcoming weekend party, I will keep you
in mind as I teach my children...
Robin Yule
"What we learn with pleasure we never forget."
Alfred Mercier
I have to vent to someone, I thought this is a good, safe place to
find some understanding women.
Once again, I was faced with a situation that labeled me as a
homemaker. But, what I really mean is someone basically saying "Just
a homemaker." I hope what I'm saying makes sense. I hate it when
someone asks me "What do you do?" And then when I give the
answer, "Homeschooling Mom," or "Homemaker," I am given that look and
then a fake reply of "That's nice..." Usually, because this person is
working behind a counter when they ask. I have to add here though, I
have just recently run into more and more women who honestly say
positive things like, "Oh, I don't blame you for homeschooling",
or "I would do the same if I didn't have to work," so times are
changing! Still, I'm fed up with people making me feel like I'm no
one because I don't have a working title after my name!
When we sat down at the table at the Title company to sign on our new
house, we found out that the mortgage broker (who up to this point we
only communicated with over the phone) had planned the mortgage in my
dh's name, only. We always put both names on the mortgage, and I was
angry. Mark had done all the talking with him except for one phone
call that I made and he was very condescending to me, almost
sarcastic. The title company woman called him to see why only Marks
name was on the documents, and he said he assumed because Mark was
the sole provider, and the one he always spoke with, the mortgage was
to be in his name! UGH!!! Oh, I see, because I don't punch a clock,
and have a respectable title to put in the occupation box, I'm
NOBODY! I have been upset over this ever since. Now we have to go
through the trouble of a quit-claim deed to get my name on the house!
I'm am so livid!
I've paid my dues. I worked and went to college when my firstborn was
growing up. I landed that great corporate job, that society tried to
made me think was so important. All I ended up feeling was guilty for
having to work when all I wanted to do was be there for my daughter.
I'm not knocking women who work and do it all, I've been there, I
know it's do-able, and I'm jealous that you have that little by-line
after your name: secretary, supervisor...
But, why isn't it just as respectable to say I'm a homemaker, mother,
homeschool teacher? I want some credit!! Why, when asked, what we
do, can't we say "I'm my kids Mom," as Dr. Laura says, and that
answer bring on some sort of "Ahh, what a great job," with a look of
respect and appreciation on the askers face? What in the heck has
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. Now society's
attitude is one that believes anyone can make a home and raise kids.
It's a real woman who can keep house, raise kids and hold a job, so,
if "all you do" is raise your kids, then you are looked upon as if
you have no skills, or intelligence.
I think I'll send Mr. Mortgage Man a letter telling him, I am not
just a stay-at-home Mom, I'm a crusader! I'm working every day from
the moment my feet touch the floor until the second my head hits the
pillow, and then sometimes a few times during those supposed sleeping
hours. I work every minute of every day, with no government
regulated, mandatory coffee breaks, no sick days, no weekends, no
holidays off. And, contrary to popular belief, my job doesn't just
consist of dishing out macaroni and cheese and wiping noses. My job
requires I think before I speak, always. I must research constantly
because I am not given a set of rules that, if followed, will keep me
moving up the company ladder. I'm given a barrage of information from
all different sources and it's up to me to decide what is right for
my family, and what is wrong. I must decide how to guide my children
morally and ethically while not sheltering them too much from the
craziness this world has become. Stress? Well, my job has it's fair
share. The difference is, I can't leave it all and come home each
day. It's with me constantly as I lay in bed exhausted and wondering
if I made the right decisions with each day. I've accepted the
horrendous, slave-like, working conditions because I know the deeper
reasons for taking this job. This job that has no accountability in
society's eyes. This job with no paycheck. I'm working to put a dent
in society, help to change it for the better. I'm working to create
children who one day will be adults that are capable, well rounded,
and strong. Adults who will feel confident, loved and compassionate
about what they believe in. Adults who have real moral values. Adults
who aren't afraid to work hard to achieve what they want, and who
understand working hard is honorable. I'm working to change society,
and hopefully, as my husband said, I'm one of the few in the spear
head, piercing through this mess that has become accepted as normal
in our society. One of the few who have taken my job seriously, very
seriously. I'm a spear head. My job is creating a future, better
world. It is unfortunate, that people like you, Mr. Mortgage Man,
cannot see farther than your upcoming weekend party, I will keep you
in mind as I teach my children...
Robin Yule
"What we learn with pleasure we never forget."
Alfred Mercier
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2002 2:08:47 PM Central Standard Time,
YuleMom@... writes:
time warp is he stuck in, anyway?
I liked what you wrote! Get mad as hell and don't take it anymore!
Tuck
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YuleMom@... writes:
> I think I'll send Mr. Mortgage Man a letter telling him, I am notI'd do it! What a pig. You'd think the guy had run into this before? What
> just a stay-at-home Mom, I'm a crusader!
time warp is he stuck in, anyway?
I liked what you wrote! Get mad as hell and don't take it anymore!
Tuck
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[email protected]
Have you ever read Lisa Bugg's (at least I think it is Lisa!) essay on this
very subject. She wants to answer "changing the world" to that question.
Does anyone know where to find it?
Leslie (who keeps meaning to introduce herself to the list...)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
very subject. She wants to answer "changing the world" to that question.
Does anyone know where to find it?
Leslie (who keeps meaning to introduce herself to the list...)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
Well hell! You're ranting to the choir (to scramble a metaphor), but it was
a fun rant to read!!
<< But, why isn't it just as respectable to say I'm a homemaker, mother,
homeschool teacher? I want some credit!! >>
Are you sure?
IS there credit? Points? Stars?
If you were a highly paid stripper or tattoo artist would you be proud to put
that down?
There is being paid, and there is being respected, and there is also lack of
confidence.
I sure hope it's not costing you one PENNY to get the deed changed, and maybe
you should ask them for compensation (at least a nice free lunch somewhere
fancy).
I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could say
"self employeed."
<<Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. >>
Fifty years ago there was a huge propaganda push to get women out of the
factory jobs so the returning GIs could get off unemployment. It was a
conscious government campaign to tell women that there was great value in
their foregoing their employment and getting pregnant and buying one of those
jazzy new tract houses in the new and still tree-free suburbs.
Sandra
a fun rant to read!!
<< But, why isn't it just as respectable to say I'm a homemaker, mother,
homeschool teacher? I want some credit!! >>
Are you sure?
IS there credit? Points? Stars?
If you were a highly paid stripper or tattoo artist would you be proud to put
that down?
There is being paid, and there is being respected, and there is also lack of
confidence.
I sure hope it's not costing you one PENNY to get the deed changed, and maybe
you should ask them for compensation (at least a nice free lunch somewhere
fancy).
I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could say
"self employeed."
<<Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. >>
Fifty years ago there was a huge propaganda push to get women out of the
factory jobs so the returning GIs could get off unemployment. It was a
conscious government campaign to tell women that there was great value in
their foregoing their employment and getting pregnant and buying one of those
jazzy new tract houses in the new and still tree-free suburbs.
Sandra
Betsy
** What in the heck has
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did**
Hi, Robin --
I don't think so. I think people doing jobs for zero or low paychecks
are not and have never been respected in our money-centric culture.
Women were EXPECTED to stay home, but their work wasn't much valued or
admired, in my opinion.
I started reading Ms. magazine about thirty years ago, when the first
issue was published. There were lots of quoted media examples about the
childishness and incompetence of women. Jokes about women being
terrible drivers used to be common.
That aside, we're buying a house, too. I just filled out the form
yesterday that showed that I hadn't held a job in 10 years. (Silver
lining -- I could fill the form out quickly!)
I would be livid if my name wasn't on the deed.
Betsy
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did**
Hi, Robin --
I don't think so. I think people doing jobs for zero or low paychecks
are not and have never been respected in our money-centric culture.
Women were EXPECTED to stay home, but their work wasn't much valued or
admired, in my opinion.
I started reading Ms. magazine about thirty years ago, when the first
issue was published. There were lots of quoted media examples about the
childishness and incompetence of women. Jokes about women being
terrible drivers used to be common.
That aside, we're buying a house, too. I just filled out the form
yesterday that showed that I hadn't held a job in 10 years. (Silver
lining -- I could fill the form out quickly!)
I would be livid if my name wasn't on the deed.
Betsy
[email protected]
you go girl i am goign to hand this one out if it is ok you said it all .can
i print it and give it out i will leave it as you wrote it
wow it is great?
joey
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i print it and give it out i will leave it as you wrote it
wow it is great?
joey
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Stephanie Elms
One time I was filling out a form and I put mom down as my occupation. Then it
asked for employer...I put Jason and Kyle Elms. The woman taking the form started
asking me what kind of firm Jason and Kyle Elms was....
I would be ticked if my name was not on any of the deeds to our cars or houses, mainly
because if something ever happened to dh, it would make things much harder to deal with
if I was not legally on the deed. It would cost more money and take more time to sort
out. Things I would definitely not want to deal with on top of everything else...
Stephanie E.
asked for employer...I put Jason and Kyle Elms. The woman taking the form started
asking me what kind of firm Jason and Kyle Elms was....
I would be ticked if my name was not on any of the deeds to our cars or houses, mainly
because if something ever happened to dh, it would make things much harder to deal with
if I was not legally on the deed. It would cost more money and take more time to sort
out. Things I would definitely not want to deal with on top of everything else...
Stephanie E.
Robin
In a message dated 12/12/2002 2:08:47 PM Central Standard Time,
YuleMom@... writes:
time warp is he stuck in, anyway?
I liked what you wrote! Get mad as hell and don't take it anymore!
Tuck
Thanks Tuck! I'm going to take some kind of action because we shouldn't have to pay for the quit claim deed. I'm not finished!
Robin
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YuleMom@... writes:
> I think I'll send Mr. Mortgage Man a letter telling him, I am notI'd do it! What a pig. You'd think the guy had run into this before? What
> just a stay-at-home Mom, I'm a crusader!
time warp is he stuck in, anyway?
I liked what you wrote! Get mad as hell and don't take it anymore!
Tuck
Thanks Tuck! I'm going to take some kind of action because we shouldn't have to pay for the quit claim deed. I'm not finished!
Robin
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Robin
I'd love to read it! If anyone finds it or knows of it, please pass it on!
Warmly,
Robin
Have you ever read Lisa Bugg's (at least I think it is Lisa!) essay on this
very subject. She wants to answer "changing the world" to that question.
Does anyone know where to find it?
Leslie (who keeps meaning to introduce herself to the list...)
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Warmly,
Robin
Have you ever read Lisa Bugg's (at least I think it is Lisa!) essay on this
very subject. She wants to answer "changing the world" to that question.
Does anyone know where to find it?
Leslie (who keeps meaning to introduce herself to the list...)
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2002 9:14:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
YuleMom@... writes:
Leslie
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YuleMom@... writes:
> I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could sayLOL!! You can just claim you are really lousy at making money!
> "self employeed."
>
> My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income to
> back it up!
>
Leslie
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2002 2:43:21 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
demanded, and received, a standing ovation for having washing the kitchen
floor.
Elizabeth
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> But, why isn't it just as respectable to say I'm a homemaker, mother,when my kids were 18 and 6 months and I had just quit my job, I once
> homeschool teacher? I want some credit!!
demanded, and received, a standing ovation for having washing the kitchen
floor.
Elizabeth
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Robin
If you were a highly paid stripper or tattoo artist would you be proud to put
that down?
I think the highly paid stripper would put down "dancer" and a nice deposit on the house and not be discriminated against! The tattoo "artist," the same!
I sure hope it's not costing you one PENNY to get the deed changed, and maybe
you should ask them for compensation (at least a nice free lunch somewhere
fancy).
Now, that is something I'm shooting for!
I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could say
"self employeed."
My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income to back it up!
<<Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. >>
Fifty years ago there was a huge propaganda push to get women out of the
factory jobs so the returning GIs could get off unemployment. It was a
conscious government campaign to tell women that there was great value in
their foregoing their employment and getting pregnant and buying one of those
jazzy new tract houses in the new and still tree-free suburbs.
I did not know this! I'm very intrigued to start researching now. Thanks for the interesting info and insight, Sandra!
Robin
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
that down?
I think the highly paid stripper would put down "dancer" and a nice deposit on the house and not be discriminated against! The tattoo "artist," the same!
I sure hope it's not costing you one PENNY to get the deed changed, and maybe
you should ask them for compensation (at least a nice free lunch somewhere
fancy).
Now, that is something I'm shooting for!
I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could say
"self employeed."
My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income to back it up!
<<Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did, it
was, indeed a job, one of the most important jobs. >>
Fifty years ago there was a huge propaganda push to get women out of the
factory jobs so the returning GIs could get off unemployment. It was a
conscious government campaign to tell women that there was great value in
their foregoing their employment and getting pregnant and buying one of those
jazzy new tract houses in the new and still tree-free suburbs.
I did not know this! I'm very intrigued to start researching now. Thanks for the interesting info and insight, Sandra!
Robin
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Robin
Hi Betsy,
I guess I haven't thought of it this way either. It's true others who work for low paychecks are not respected either.
Good luck with the new home!
Robin
** What in the heck has
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did**
Hi, Robin --
I don't think so. I think people doing jobs for zero or low paychecks
are not and have never been respected in our money-centric culture.
Women were EXPECTED to stay home, but their work wasn't much valued or
admired, in my opinion.
I started reading Ms. magazine about thirty years ago, when the first
issue was published. There were lots of quoted media examples about the
childishness and incompetence of women. Jokes about women being
terrible drivers used to be common.
That aside, we're buying a house, too. I just filled out the form
yesterday that showed that I hadn't held a job in 10 years. (Silver
lining -- I could fill the form out quickly!)
I would be livid if my name wasn't on the deed.
Betsy
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I guess I haven't thought of it this way either. It's true others who work for low paychecks are not respected either.
Good luck with the new home!
Robin
** What in the heck has
happened in our society that we, the homemakers, home teachers,
wives, and mothers have become so disrespected? Just fifty years ago,
if you were a homemaker, you were respected for the work you did**
Hi, Robin --
I don't think so. I think people doing jobs for zero or low paychecks
are not and have never been respected in our money-centric culture.
Women were EXPECTED to stay home, but their work wasn't much valued or
admired, in my opinion.
I started reading Ms. magazine about thirty years ago, when the first
issue was published. There were lots of quoted media examples about the
childishness and incompetence of women. Jokes about women being
terrible drivers used to be common.
That aside, we're buying a house, too. I just filled out the form
yesterday that showed that I hadn't held a job in 10 years. (Silver
lining -- I could fill the form out quickly!)
I would be livid if my name wasn't on the deed.
Betsy
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Robin
Sure, hand it out! Leave my name on it!
Robin
you go girl i am goign to hand this one out if it is ok you said it all .can
i print it and give it out i will leave it as you wrote it
wow it is great?
joey
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Robin
you go girl i am goign to hand this one out if it is ok you said it all .can
i print it and give it out i will leave it as you wrote it
wow it is great?
joey
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Robin
<<<<<<<<<One time I was filling out a form and I put mom down as my occupation. Then it
asked for employer...I put Jason and Kyle Elms. The woman taking the form started
asking me what kind of firm Jason and Kyle Elms was....>>>>>>>>>
That is funny!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<I would be ticked if my name was not on any of the deeds to our cars or houses, mainly
because if something ever happened to dh, it would make things much harder to deal with
if I was not legally on the deed. It would cost more money and take more time to sort
out. Things I would definitely not want to deal with on top of everything else...
Stephanie E.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I agree, and this is part of the reason I'm so angry!
Robin
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
asked for employer...I put Jason and Kyle Elms. The woman taking the form started
asking me what kind of firm Jason and Kyle Elms was....>>>>>>>>>
That is funny!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<I would be ticked if my name was not on any of the deeds to our cars or houses, mainly
because if something ever happened to dh, it would make things much harder to deal with
if I was not legally on the deed. It would cost more money and take more time to sort
out. Things I would definitely not want to deal with on top of everything else...
Stephanie E.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I agree, and this is part of the reason I'm so angry!
Robin
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Robin
> My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income toLOL!! You can just claim you are really lousy at making money!
> back it up!
>
Leslie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
LOL! That is funny too! I'm self-employed and am really bad at what I do!
Robin
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Robin
<<<<<<<<<<<<when my kids were 18 and 6 months and I had just quit my job, I once
demanded, and received, a standing ovation for having washing the kitchen
floor.
Elizabeth>>>>>>>>>>>>>
LOL! I love it, I will have to remember this some day when I'm feeling unappreciated!
Robin
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
demanded, and received, a standing ovation for having washing the kitchen
floor.
Elizabeth>>>>>>>>>>>>>
LOL! I love it, I will have to remember this some day when I'm feeling unappreciated!
Robin
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Deborah Lewis
When someone asks my sil what she does (raising children) she says
"Sorry, it's classified, if I told you, I'd have to kill you."
I guess these day's some jack ass would take it as a threat. (which is
how she really means it anyway)<g>
Which comic used to say "Domestic Goddess"?
"Domestic Engineer" might work.
Deb L
"Sorry, it's classified, if I told you, I'd have to kill you."
I guess these day's some jack ass would take it as a threat. (which is
how she really means it anyway)<g>
Which comic used to say "Domestic Goddess"?
"Domestic Engineer" might work.
Deb L
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In a message dated 12/12/02 7:13:57 PM, YuleMom@... writes:
<< I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could
say
"self employeed."
<<My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income to
back it up! >>
That just means he pays himself better than you do.
Sandra
<< I use "Homeschooling mother at home" sometimes, on forms. Or you could
say
"self employeed."
<<My dh is self employed, but it works for him because he has the income to
back it up! >>
That just means he pays himself better than you do.
Sandra
Fetteroll
on 12/12/02 3:36 PM, Leslie530@... at Leslie530@... wrote:
So What Do You Do?
http://www.unschooling.com/library/essays/sowhatdo.shtml
Joyce
> Have you ever read Lisa Bugg's (at least I think it is Lisa!) essay on thisIs this it?
> very subject. She wants to answer "changing the world" to that question.
>
> Does anyone know where to find it?
So What Do You Do?
http://www.unschooling.com/library/essays/sowhatdo.shtml
Joyce
Schuyler Waynforth <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], "Robin <YuleMom@m...>"
<YuleMom@m...> wrote:
capital index that works to assess any country's economic well-being
and future growth potential. As a direct human capital provider for
your children you are positively and pivotally providing for the
future economic success of whatever country your children choose to
invest their work life in.
This is a quote from http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/hrm/chap2/ch2-
links5.htm.
"Human capital. Personal and national success are increasingly
correlated with the possession of skills. Skilled individuals can
command a premium salary in periods of high economic activity.
Worldwide, unemployment levels remain high, while organizations have
difficulty filling vacancies which require specific expertise. A
shortage of skilled people can act as a limiting factor on
individual organizations and the economy as a whole. It is in the
interest of any country to maximise its human resources by investing
in the skills of its workforce, its human capital."
And, it will confuse the hell out of the idiots at the mortgage
company.
Schuyler
<YuleMom@m...> wrote:
>. I hate it whenand
> someone asks me "What do you do?" And then when I give the
> answer, "Homeschooling Mom," or "Homemaker," I am given that look
> then a fake reply of "That's nice..."Try Human Capital Provider. Apparently countries now have a human
capital index that works to assess any country's economic well-being
and future growth potential. As a direct human capital provider for
your children you are positively and pivotally providing for the
future economic success of whatever country your children choose to
invest their work life in.
This is a quote from http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/hrm/chap2/ch2-
links5.htm.
"Human capital. Personal and national success are increasingly
correlated with the possession of skills. Skilled individuals can
command a premium salary in periods of high economic activity.
Worldwide, unemployment levels remain high, while organizations have
difficulty filling vacancies which require specific expertise. A
shortage of skilled people can act as a limiting factor on
individual organizations and the economy as a whole. It is in the
interest of any country to maximise its human resources by investing
in the skills of its workforce, its human capital."
And, it will confuse the hell out of the idiots at the mortgage
company.
Schuyler
Betsy
**Which comic used to say "Domestic Goddess"?
"Domestic Engineer" might work. **
I did major in engineering in college, so I do use Domestic Engineer <g>
on my tax forms.
Betsy
"Domestic Engineer" might work. **
I did major in engineering in college, so I do use Domestic Engineer <g>
on my tax forms.
Betsy
Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
Don't be silly.
You're not a 'homemaker'.
You're the owner of a very exclusive private school.
And you're socially-minded enough that you donate your time.
Heidi
You're not a 'homemaker'.
You're the owner of a very exclusive private school.
And you're socially-minded enough that you donate your time.
Heidi
Kate Green
A
(you have to be sponsored thru your work and then the worker sponsors their
family) for my husband who stays home with the kids. It's hard enough in
the US for men to be the stay home parent but in this macho environment it
can be really tricky. Poor Mark has had many people (even our doorman)
offer to help him find a job and he even got yelled at by the police when
he was getting his driver's license because he had my letter approving it
for him -- they were so pissed off that I had to give a man permission that
the head police officer was actually shaking with anger:)
I think it's a great turn around that he can't even get a bank account or
be allowed to buy a car or booze without my permission! Luckily he thinks
the whole thing is funny and we have always shared everything before and
been balanced about these sorts of things.
Kate
>It's been funny moving to the Middle East with this. I am the sponsor here
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<I would be ticked if my name was not on any of the deeds
>to our cars or houses, mainly
> because if something ever happened to dh, it would make things much harder
>to deal with
> if I was not legally on the deed. It would cost more money and take more
>time to sort
> out. Things I would definitely not want to deal with on top of everything
>else...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
(you have to be sponsored thru your work and then the worker sponsors their
family) for my husband who stays home with the kids. It's hard enough in
the US for men to be the stay home parent but in this macho environment it
can be really tricky. Poor Mark has had many people (even our doorman)
offer to help him find a job and he even got yelled at by the police when
he was getting his driver's license because he had my letter approving it
for him -- they were so pissed off that I had to give a man permission that
the head police officer was actually shaking with anger:)
I think it's a great turn around that he can't even get a bank account or
be allowed to buy a car or booze without my permission! Luckily he thinks
the whole thing is funny and we have always shared everything before and
been balanced about these sorts of things.
Kate
Robin
I really like this! Sounds very professional.
Robin
Try Human Capital Provider. Apparently countries now have a human
capital index that works to assess any country's economic well-being
and future growth potential. As a direct human capital provider for
your children you are positively and pivotally providing for the
future economic success of whatever country your children choose to
invest their work life in.
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Robin
Try Human Capital Provider. Apparently countries now have a human
capital index that works to assess any country's economic well-being
and future growth potential. As a direct human capital provider for
your children you are positively and pivotally providing for the
future economic success of whatever country your children choose to
invest their work life in.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Robin
LOL, yes we are!
Robin
"Don't be silly.
You're not a 'homemaker'.
You're the owner of a very exclusive private school.
And you're socially-minded enough that you donate your time.
Heidi
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"Don't be silly.
You're not a 'homemaker'.
You're the owner of a very exclusive private school.
And you're socially-minded enough that you donate your time.
Heidi
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Robin
Wow! Amazing difference in culture! Forgive me for not reading the loop often enough to know what you do, could you tell me? How long will you be in the Middle East?
Robin
It's been funny moving to the Middle East with this. I am the sponsor here
(you have to be sponsored thru your work and then the worker sponsors their
family) for my husband who stays home with the kids. It's hard enough in
the US for men to be the stay home parent but in this macho environment it
can be really tricky. Poor Mark has had many people (even our doorman)
offer to help him find a job and he even got yelled at by the police when
he was getting his driver's license because he had my letter approving it
for him -- they were so pissed off that I had to give a man permission that
the head police officer was actually shaking with anger:)
I think it's a great turn around that he can't even get a bank account or
be allowed to buy a car or booze without my permission! Luckily he thinks
the whole thing is funny and we have always shared everything before and
been balanced about these sorts of things.
Kate
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Robin
It's been funny moving to the Middle East with this. I am the sponsor here
(you have to be sponsored thru your work and then the worker sponsors their
family) for my husband who stays home with the kids. It's hard enough in
the US for men to be the stay home parent but in this macho environment it
can be really tricky. Poor Mark has had many people (even our doorman)
offer to help him find a job and he even got yelled at by the police when
he was getting his driver's license because he had my letter approving it
for him -- they were so pissed off that I had to give a man permission that
the head police officer was actually shaking with anger:)
I think it's a great turn around that he can't even get a bank account or
be allowed to buy a car or booze without my permission! Luckily he thinks
the whole thing is funny and we have always shared everything before and
been balanced about these sorts of things.
Kate
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