use of this group
NCMama
This isn't my list, and actually I just answered one of these questions, but I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic wall and where to find Manga books aren't the best use of this list. Those things are easily found by googling, or on other parenting lists.
I'm a *bit* cranky today, so sorry if this is out of line - these just seemed like such different discussion than we usually have here.
peace,
Caren
I'm a *bit* cranky today, so sorry if this is out of line - these just seemed like such different discussion than we usually have here.
peace,
Caren
Robin Bentley
I know what you mean, Caren, but I think it gives people a chance to
talk about what their kids love. And it might show someone who's
wondering what manga is or whether unschoolers read such a thing
another window into our lives.
I know some of our manga ideas came from one of Joyce's previous posts
about it.
I'm sure we'll be back to "deeper" subjects pretty soon <g>.
Robin B.
talk about what their kids love. And it might show someone who's
wondering what manga is or whether unschoolers read such a thing
another window into our lives.
I know some of our manga ideas came from one of Joyce's previous posts
about it.
I'm sure we'll be back to "deeper" subjects pretty soon <g>.
Robin B.
On Feb 25, 2010, at 10:39 AM, NCMama wrote:
> This isn't my list, and actually I just answered one of these
> questions, but I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic
> wall and where to find Manga books aren't the best use of this list.
> Those things are easily found by googling, or on other parenting
> lists.
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> I'm a *bit* cranky today, so sorry if this is out of line - these
> just seemed like such different discussion than we usually have here.
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> peace,
> Caren
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Pam Sorooshian
This isn't my list, and actually I just answered one of these questions, but
I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic wall and where to find
Manga books aren't the best use of this list. Those things are easily found
by googling, or on other parenting lists.
I'm a *bit* cranky today, so sorry if this is out of line - these just
seemed like such different discussion than we usually have here.
live where there is bad weather and you've been stuck indoors too much,
lately? Try to get some fresh air!
I'll try to use the topics you're feeling cranky about and get them into an
area that might seem more relevant to you, okay? To cheer you up?
The list sometimes gets onto these kinds of subjects - specifics about some
kind of activity. It isn't the usual discussion about unschooling, but it is
part of people's unschooling lives. Asking about manga on a conventional
parenting list might not get nearly the kind of helpful information as here
- it might get criticism. A bit of discussion about specific activities can
be interesting, too, as examples of what people are doing in their own
real-life families as unschoolers. I wonder how many conventional families
would paint a whole wall with magnetic paint and the parents would spend
time thinking of interesting things that would work on that wall. Some, for
sure. But lots would think it was a bit overboard. I know a lot of parents,
for example, who wouldn't let their kids use sidewalk chalk on their patios
or on the sidewalk in front of their houses because it "looks tacky." I LOVE
walking by someone's house and seeing children's drawings all over the
sidewalk - I always picture that the kids are being allowed to have fun
INSIDE the house, too. I never knew there was magnetic paint. I know someone
who bought a new refrigerator and it was NOT magnetic - it changed the
nature of their lives not to have a refrigerator to hang stuff on. Every
time I was in their kitchen I noticed it and it felt a little sad because
before they had that refrigerator, their old one had always been fun and
interesting to me.
Unschoolers homes are very likely going to be someone unconventional. That's
what I've noticed. Usually unschooling means more clutter, but not always.
ALWAYS it means more children's stuff being out and visible. I really don't
think unschooling is viable in a "designed" home, if you know what I mean,
where there are decorator touches and things are arranged just so.
I wish we'd had a magnetic wall. I really think that would have been so fun.
I might still do that when I have grandkids. I wasn't even, at first,
picturing a wall to play on (although that sounds awesome) - I was just
picturing an entire big wall with lots of magnets to hang pictures and
postcards and notes and stuff like that. Magnetic letters and numbers and
cool fridge magnets. The refrigerator has never been big enough!
Manga? I'm clueless - know nothing about it. But, it interested me a lot
that so many parents were able to step right in with so much information.
THAT shows what supporting a kids' interests looks like. Unschooling parents
don't need to know anything about manga UNLESS that's something their kids
are more and more into and then they need to be willing to learn a LOT in
order to expand on that interest, to build on it, to feed it and nurture it.
These are just two particular things - magnetic walls and manga - but the
responses about those were great examples of how unschooling works in
practice. I figured that there are people on this list who appreciated
seeing the responses even if they weren't interested in magnetic walls or
manga. The magnetic wall stuff was really about strewing - thinking about
something that might be interesting to the kids. The manga stuff was about
how to accommodate a kid's interest, how to support it, especially when it
was interfering with family life in some way.
-pam
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I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic wall and where to find
Manga books aren't the best use of this list. Those things are easily found
by googling, or on other parenting lists.
I'm a *bit* cranky today, so sorry if this is out of line - these just
seemed like such different discussion than we usually have here.
>>>Sorry you're feeling cranky, Caren. Hope you feel better today - maybe you
live where there is bad weather and you've been stuck indoors too much,
lately? Try to get some fresh air!
I'll try to use the topics you're feeling cranky about and get them into an
area that might seem more relevant to you, okay? To cheer you up?
The list sometimes gets onto these kinds of subjects - specifics about some
kind of activity. It isn't the usual discussion about unschooling, but it is
part of people's unschooling lives. Asking about manga on a conventional
parenting list might not get nearly the kind of helpful information as here
- it might get criticism. A bit of discussion about specific activities can
be interesting, too, as examples of what people are doing in their own
real-life families as unschoolers. I wonder how many conventional families
would paint a whole wall with magnetic paint and the parents would spend
time thinking of interesting things that would work on that wall. Some, for
sure. But lots would think it was a bit overboard. I know a lot of parents,
for example, who wouldn't let their kids use sidewalk chalk on their patios
or on the sidewalk in front of their houses because it "looks tacky." I LOVE
walking by someone's house and seeing children's drawings all over the
sidewalk - I always picture that the kids are being allowed to have fun
INSIDE the house, too. I never knew there was magnetic paint. I know someone
who bought a new refrigerator and it was NOT magnetic - it changed the
nature of their lives not to have a refrigerator to hang stuff on. Every
time I was in their kitchen I noticed it and it felt a little sad because
before they had that refrigerator, their old one had always been fun and
interesting to me.
Unschoolers homes are very likely going to be someone unconventional. That's
what I've noticed. Usually unschooling means more clutter, but not always.
ALWAYS it means more children's stuff being out and visible. I really don't
think unschooling is viable in a "designed" home, if you know what I mean,
where there are decorator touches and things are arranged just so.
I wish we'd had a magnetic wall. I really think that would have been so fun.
I might still do that when I have grandkids. I wasn't even, at first,
picturing a wall to play on (although that sounds awesome) - I was just
picturing an entire big wall with lots of magnets to hang pictures and
postcards and notes and stuff like that. Magnetic letters and numbers and
cool fridge magnets. The refrigerator has never been big enough!
Manga? I'm clueless - know nothing about it. But, it interested me a lot
that so many parents were able to step right in with so much information.
THAT shows what supporting a kids' interests looks like. Unschooling parents
don't need to know anything about manga UNLESS that's something their kids
are more and more into and then they need to be willing to learn a LOT in
order to expand on that interest, to build on it, to feed it and nurture it.
These are just two particular things - magnetic walls and manga - but the
responses about those were great examples of how unschooling works in
practice. I figured that there are people on this list who appreciated
seeing the responses even if they weren't interested in magnetic walls or
manga. The magnetic wall stuff was really about strewing - thinking about
something that might be interesting to the kids. The manga stuff was about
how to accommodate a kid's interest, how to support it, especially when it
was interfering with family life in some way.
-pam
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b prince
Pam wrote something that has me thinking:
<Usually unschooling means more clutter, but not always.
ALWAYS it means more children's stuff being out and visible. I really
don't
think unschooling is viable in a "designed" home, if you know what I
mean,
where there are decorator touches and things are arranged just so. >>
At this point in time and various points in the past, we have shared homes with family members. It's been difficult to find a happy medium where stuff can be out yet not look like a tornado has gone through. I'm new to unschooling and this is one thing that I'm struggling with. I would like to have more stuff out and leave things out but that isn't working for others in the house. Can strewing be kept "neat"? Does an unschooling home need to look cluttered? Care to share ideas on ways I can work around it?
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<Usually unschooling means more clutter, but not always.
ALWAYS it means more children's stuff being out and visible. I really
don't
think unschooling is viable in a "designed" home, if you know what I
mean,
where there are decorator touches and things are arranged just so. >>
At this point in time and various points in the past, we have shared homes with family members. It's been difficult to find a happy medium where stuff can be out yet not look like a tornado has gone through. I'm new to unschooling and this is one thing that I'm struggling with. I would like to have more stuff out and leave things out but that isn't working for others in the house. Can strewing be kept "neat"? Does an unschooling home need to look cluttered? Care to share ideas on ways I can work around it?
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k
It also provides relief from serious stuff sometimes. Being off and on this
and other unschooling lists, it's (a) a good reminder for people like me
still getting an unschooling nest going with the needed ideas and the
wavelength or vibe of attending to this sort of thing, (b) acceptance for
doing funky things is kinda low elsewhere (like Pam says), (c) it often gets
hilarious, and that tends to lift the "difficulty" learning curve of
unschooling out of the doldrums for people getting started who might be
getting tunnel vision about unschooling instead of enjoying their kids.
I am getting a hoot out of "poop, take 3" ... They're over there talking
about "aim" now. That's a sight different from the seriousness that thread
started out with. Comic "relief" (pun intended). Don't "go" there if you
don't want to.
I delete some threads because I have been reading for years now and we're
doing other stuff.
~Katherine
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pam Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@...>wrote:
parenting list might not get nearly the kind of helpful information as here
- it might get criticism. A bit of discussion about specific activities can
be interesting, too, as examples of what people are doing in their own
real-life families as unschoolers.
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and other unschooling lists, it's (a) a good reminder for people like me
still getting an unschooling nest going with the needed ideas and the
wavelength or vibe of attending to this sort of thing, (b) acceptance for
doing funky things is kinda low elsewhere (like Pam says), (c) it often gets
hilarious, and that tends to lift the "difficulty" learning curve of
unschooling out of the doldrums for people getting started who might be
getting tunnel vision about unschooling instead of enjoying their kids.
I am getting a hoot out of "poop, take 3" ... They're over there talking
about "aim" now. That's a sight different from the seriousness that thread
started out with. Comic "relief" (pun intended). Don't "go" there if you
don't want to.
I delete some threads because I have been reading for years now and we're
doing other stuff.
~Katherine
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pam Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@...>wrote:
> It isn't the usual discussion about unschooling, but it ispart of people's unschooling lives. Asking about manga on a conventional
parenting list might not get nearly the kind of helpful information as here
- it might get criticism. A bit of discussion about specific activities can
be interesting, too, as examples of what people are doing in their own
real-life families as unschoolers.
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lalow66
>I was on here the otherday reading and my 7 year old son looks over my shoulder and I hear him say, "poop, take 3"..."what does THAT mean?
> I am getting a hoot out of "poop, take 3" ... They're over there talking
> about "aim" now. That's a sight different from the seriousness that thread
> started out with. Comic "relief" (pun intended). Don't "go" there if you
> don't want to.
>
> I delete some threads because I have been reading for years now and we're
> doing other stuff.
>
> ~Katherine
>
Julie van der Wekken
>But lots would think it was a bit overboard. I know a lot of parents, for example, who wouldn't let their kids use sidewalk chalk on their patios or on the sidewalk in front of their houses because it "looks tacky." I LOVE walking by someone's house and seeing children's drawings all over the sidewalk - I always picture that the kids are being allowed to have fun<I also love seeing children's art in chalk on the sidewalks & driveways:) We don't have much cement or even a normal driveway where our kids can use the chalk, but their able to use the chalk on our deck and it shows up rather well.
I remember a couple summers ago, we had 4 neighbor kids over as well as our own two kids and they had a blast drawing with chalk on the deck and on our then just primed house. They were so thankful that they were able to draw on our house, something that I didn't think was a big deal at all. They can still draw on the house now that it's painted and it just hoses right off.
That same day one of the kids asked if they could paint. I said "sure" and brought out all of our painting supplies and our big roll of butcher paper. They had fun for a good couple hours experimenting with all sorts of different painting styles. A lot of the paint ended up on our deck, and some of it is still there two years later. It makes me smile when I see it knowing how much fun these kids had and most of all because they would never have been allowed to do something like that at their own houses.
Julie van der Wekken
http://www.lerendzonderschool.blogspot.com/
k
Try this blogpost with some great idea about how to deal with some aspects
of your question:
http://www.swissarmywife.net/2010/02/managing-housework-making-cleaning-more-enjoyable/
~Katherine
of your question:
http://www.swissarmywife.net/2010/02/managing-housework-making-cleaning-more-enjoyable/
~Katherine
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:46 PM, b prince <flyingtwinsmom@...> wrote:
>
> Pam wrote something that has me thinking:
> <Usually unschooling means more clutter, but not always.
> ALWAYS it means more children's stuff being out and visible. I really
> don't
> think unschooling is viable in a "designed" home, if you know what I
> mean,
> where there are decorator touches and things are arranged just so. >>
>
> At this point in time and various points in the past, we have shared homes
> with family members. It's been difficult to find a happy medium where stuff
> can be out yet not look like a tornado has gone through. I'm new to
> unschooling and this is one thing that I'm struggling with. I would like to
> have more stuff out and leave things out but that isn't working for others
> in the house. Can strewing be kept "neat"? Does an unschooling home need to
> look cluttered? Care to share ideas on ways I can work around it?
>
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Ed Wendell
As a thought - I'm not even on any type of "other parenting list" - I'm only on a couple of unschooling lists. What if I'd never heard of Manga or Anime and wanted to offer it to my son as something I learned about on here and thought my son might like it?
- really not much different than when the discussion is about monkey platters, potty training, or some other thread.
To me unschooling is interwoven into the fabric of our lives - hard to tease it apart sometimes. I'm always learning about new ideas and new things/things to do that are out there in this whole wide world by reading my lists. The lists I'm on are great idea prompters.
Lisa W.
From: NCMama
This isn't my list, and actually I just answered one of these questions, but I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic wall and where to find Manga books aren't the best use of this list. Those things are easily found by googling, or on other parenting lists.
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- really not much different than when the discussion is about monkey platters, potty training, or some other thread.
To me unschooling is interwoven into the fabric of our lives - hard to tease it apart sometimes. I'm always learning about new ideas and new things/things to do that are out there in this whole wide world by reading my lists. The lists I'm on are great idea prompters.
Lisa W.
From: NCMama
This isn't my list, and actually I just answered one of these questions, but I'm thinking things like what to stick on a magnetic wall and where to find Manga books aren't the best use of this list. Those things are easily found by googling, or on other parenting lists.
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Ticia
Something that works well in our house is bin/box rotation of toys and interesting stuff. I have space in my attic and in the garage and a host of other nooks and cranny's to put boxes or bins of toys/stuff that hasn't really been played with recently. I go around every so often and put those items in a bin. Then I put it away. I rotate them and the kids ask for a fun bin also. My mom used to do this and I remember it was so fun to go through the bin and "remember an old toy" or just play with old toys/items that seemed now more interesting.
My house can often look cluttered, but to manage it more I've found this solution is fun and makes the kids an I very happy.
Ticia
(Chloe, Raiden, and Satori's mom)
My house can often look cluttered, but to manage it more I've found this solution is fun and makes the kids an I very happy.
Ticia
(Chloe, Raiden, and Satori's mom)
--- In [email protected], b prince <flyingtwinsmom@...> wrote:
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Vidyut Kale
Many of these conversations are rather irrelevant to me or where my
unschooling currently is.
I let them sink into the unfathomable depths of my inbox, where they can
rise up with information, variety of opinions to help me if I search for
something, or stay there, eating up negligible real estate on a free email
provider's server.
Vidyut
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unschooling currently is.
I let them sink into the unfathomable depths of my inbox, where they can
rise up with information, variety of opinions to help me if I search for
something, or stay there, eating up negligible real estate on a free email
provider's server.
Vidyut
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