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In a message dated 12/10/2001 9:02:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> If it's a bigger thing, we
> >might ask him to wait until Christmas or a birthday (Or Julian Day, another
> >story).
>
> OK, Let's hear it!
>

Okay...here it is...
Remember when you were a kid, around Mother's Day or Father's day, and asked
your parents "When is Children's Day?" Remember what they said?

"Everyday is Children's Day."

Well, when Julian asked (when he was about 5), we set a date, and now, every
year, we have a Julian Day. It's cool, because it's different than a
birthday. We recognize what he's especially interested in and do a special
activity, and there's a gift. The gifts are less likely to just be toy kinds
of things, and more connected to who he is. For example, this past year he
got a kayak. The gift isn't always that expensive, but it always reflects
something important about him or his interests.

We also have Mother's Day (for me) and Beffy-Boo Day ( for Beth). And he
celebrates Father's Day with his dad.

We're just party kinda people :)

Kathryn


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Karin

This sounds great Kathryn! I have always said "Every day is Kid's Day" to my kids. The standard response.
I'll think about incorporating a special day for each of them, besides their birthday. They would love it.
Thanks for the idea!

Karin


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From: KathrynJB@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:35 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Julian Day


In a message dated 12/10/2001 9:02:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> If it's a bigger thing, we
> >might ask him to wait until Christmas or a birthday (Or Julian Day, another
> >story).
>
> OK, Let's hear it!
>

Okay...here it is...
Remember when you were a kid, around Mother's Day or Father's day, and asked
your parents "When is Children's Day?" Remember what they said?

"Everyday is Children's Day."

Well, when Julian asked (when he was about 5), we set a date, and now, every
year, we have a Julian Day. It's cool, because it's different than a
birthday. We recognize what he's especially interested in and do a special
activity, and there's a gift. The gifts are less likely to just be toy kinds
of things, and more connected to who he is. For example, this past year he
got a kayak. The gift isn't always that expensive, but it always reflects
something important about him or his interests.

We also have Mother's Day (for me) and Beffy-Boo Day ( for Beth). And he
celebrates Father's Day with his dad.

We're just party kinda people :)

Kathryn


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meghan anderson

<<<<Okay...here it is...
Remember when you were a kid, around Mother's Day or
Father's day, and asked your parents "When is
Children's Day?" Remember what they said?

"Everyday is Children's Day."

Well, when Julian asked (when he was about 5), we set
a date, and now, every year, we have a Julian Day.
It's cool, because it's different than a
birthday. We recognize what he's especially interested
in and do a special activity, and there's a gift. The
gifts are less likely to just be toy kinds of things,
and more connected to who he is. For example, this
past year he got a kayak. The gift isn't always that
expensive, but it always reflects
something important about him or his interests.

We also have Mother's Day (for me) and Beffy-Boo Day (
for Beth). And he celebrates Father's Day with his
dad.

We're just party kinda people :)

Kathryn>>>>>

I love this idea! I'm a party kind of person too :-)

Meghan

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I LOVE THIS! I never asked about childrens day when I was
little and my daughter has never brought it up either. So
this whole idea hit me completely out of the blue. I love
the idea of it. Thanks for sharing!
Jacli



>Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:35:19 EST
> From: KathrynJB@...
>Subject: Re: Julian Day
>
>In a message dated 12/10/2001 9:02:52 PM Eastern Standard
Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
>
>> If it's a bigger thing, we
>> >might ask him to wait until Christmas or a birthday (Or
Julian Day,
>another
>> >story).
>>
>> OK, Let's hear it!
>>
>
>Okay...here it is...
>Remember when you were a kid, around Mother's Day or
Father's day, and
>asked
>your parents "When is Children's Day?" Remember what they
said?
>
>"Everyday is Children's Day."
>
>Well, when Julian asked (when he was about 5), we set a
date, and now,
>every
>year, we have a Julian Day. It's cool, because it's
different than a
>birthday. We recognize what he's especially interested in
and do a special
>activity, and there's a gift. The gifts are less likely to
just be toy
>kinds
>of things, and more connected to who he is. For example,
this past year he
>got a kayak. The gift isn't always that expensive, but it
always reflects
>something important about him or his interests.
>
>We also have Mother's Day (for me) and Beffy-Boo Day ( for
Beth). And he
>celebrates Father's Day with his dad.
>
>We're just party kinda people :)
>
>Kathryn
>
>
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>Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:37:16 EST
> From: KathrynJB@...
>Subject: Re: Rosemund
>
>In a message dated 12/10/2001 9:02:52 PM Eastern Standard
Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
>
>> The author of these "Bill of Rights" is John Rosemond,
>> a family psychologist who writes a weekly column which
>> is published in over 200 newspapers.
>> He gives terrific, common sense advice to parents. His
>> web site is www.rosemond.com. >>>>>
>>
>> Reads more like, 'How to crush your children's spirit
>> completely'. I feel like crying for the children of
>> the parents who read this guy and think that "He gives
>> terrific, common sense advice". IMO he seems like a
>> very frustrated (he obviously didn't get his 'needs'
>> met and needs to make sure that others don't get
>> theirs met either) and controlling person. The fact
>> that this guy is in over 200 newspapers is just plain
>> scary to me.
>>
>>
>
>I've heard that his mother thinks all his theories are
bull poopy (they
>are...estranged), and that he's a pretty inactive father.
>
>Kathryn
>
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>Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:25:46 -0700
> From: "Karin" <curtkar@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Julian Day
>
>This sounds great Kathryn! I have always said "Every day
is Kid's Day" to
>my kids. The standard response.
>I'll think about incorporating a special day for each of
them, besides
>their birthday. They would love it.
>Thanks for the idea!
>
>Karin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: KathrynJB@...
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:35 PM
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Julian Day
>
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2001 9:02:52 PM Eastern
Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > If it's a bigger thing, we
> > >might ask him to wait until Christmas or a birthday
(Or Julian Day,
>another
> > >story).
> >
> > OK, Let's hear it!
> >
>
> Okay...here it is...
> Remember when you were a kid, around Mother's Day or
Father's day, and
>asked
> your parents "When is Children's Day?" Remember what
they said?
>
> "Everyday is Children's Day."
>
> Well, when Julian asked (when he was about 5), we set a
date, and now,
>every
> year, we have a Julian Day. It's cool, because it's
different than a
> birthday. We recognize what he's especially interested
in and do a
>special
> activity, and there's a gift. The gifts are less likely
to just be toy
>kinds
> of things, and more connected to who he is. For example,
this past year
>he
> got a kayak. The gift isn't always that expensive, but
it always
>reflects
> something important about him or his interests.
>
> We also have Mother's Day (for me) and Beffy-Boo Day (
for Beth). And he
> celebrates Father's Day with his dad.
>
> We're just party kinda people :)
>
> Kathryn
>
>
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>Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:30:15 -0500
> From: "Tami Labig-Duquette" <labigduquette@...>
>Subject: Re: RE: Struggling
>
>My mom is also a Mimi, LOL she could not stand
grandma/granny etc. I would
>like to be a granny myself :) at some point.
>Indiana Tami
>
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>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] RE: Struggling
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:39:52 -0500
>
>My mom is "Grandmama" (theatrical accent on the 'grand'
and a quick 'mama'
>following) to our kids. It fits her personality so well!
>Jennifer
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:32 PM
>
>
> And woe be to the grandchild that calls her Grandma!
She's Mimi, thank
>you very much.
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>Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:30:22 -0800
> From: Tia Leschke <leschke@...>
>Subject: Titles was RE: Struggling
>
>At 09:39 PM 10/12/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>My mom is "Grandmama" (theatrical accent on the 'grand'
and a quick
>'mama'
>>following) to our kids. It fits her personality so well!
>
>When my granddaughter was born, we were all given the
choice of what we
>were called. I chose to be called Granna, which is what
we called my own
>maternal grandmother (because my oldest cousin couldn't
say grandma). My
>dh (the step-grandfather) chose Poppy. My ex wanted to be

>Grandpappy. When Skye was about 2, she had a little
friend who couldn't
>quite say Grandpappy, so she'd say, let's go see your
Happy. Happy, he's
>been ever since. It's kind of ironic, as he's one of the
least happy
>people I know.
>Tia
>
>Tia Leschke leschke@...
>On Vancouver Island
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>Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:15:57 EST
> From: SandraDodd@...
>Subject: Re: RE: Struggling
>
>I called my daddy "daddy" always (he died when I was in my
20's) but I
>started calling my mommy (who had been mommy) "mom" when I
was in my late
>20's because I was irritated with her. I was being
formal. <g> My
>sister
>still calls her mommy, at least behind her back. I don't.
>
>My kids call me Mom mostly, but Sandra in reference
sometimes, or on the
>phone. I don't catch when they use "Sandra" but other
people have pointed
>it
>out.
>
>Sandra
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>Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:50:21 -0800
> From: Tia Leschke <leschke@...>
>Subject: Math Site
>
>
>>
>>
>>http://www.shout.net/~mathman/
>>It is by Don Cohen, aka The Mathman. He's a nice guy who
sometimes
>>participates on homeschooling lists since homeschoolers
tend to be good
>>customers for his unusual materials.
>>
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>Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:20:21 EST
> From: PSoroosh@...
>Subject: Re: RE: Struggling
>
>My 17 yo still calls me "mommy." She said it in front of
some adults the
>other day (in a community college art class we are taking
together) and
>one
>of the other adults said, "Oh - watch out - she's wanting
something...."
>in a
>sort of sarcastic tone of voice. Roya and I didn't get it
- looked at him
>blankly. He explained, "You know --- when they call you
'Mommy' it means
>that
>they're buttering you up."
>
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>Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:08:12 -0800
> From: Tia Leschke <leschke@...>
>Subject: Re: struggling
>
>
>>
>> > I don't, but I have a good friend who is a widower
unschooling 4 kids.
> I
>> > think he's doing a great job. In fact I think he's
doing a somewhat
>better
>> > job than his wife did, and she was my good friend.
The kids were (I
>think)
>> > 5, 7, 11, and 13 when their mother died. Dennis would
do just about
>> > anything for his kids.
>> >
>>Are these Bonnie's children? I thought about asking how
they were doing
>>but wasn't sure if you knew them. Vancouver Island is
pretty big in some
>>ways!
>
>They used to live in the same town as me until they moved
to
>Victoria. Yes, this is Bonnie's family. Dennis works for
my dh off and
>on.
>
>
>>I joined the Home-Ed list a few months after she died -
it is a place
>where
>>she is greatly loved and highly respected by everyone.
In fact someone is
>>making pink fuzzy things for their pink flamingo
Christmas decorations.
>Did
>>she like pink fuzzy things in real life?
>
>LOL! When Bonnie and I first got online and joined
Home-Ed in about 1996,
>there was a discussion about leaving toilet seats up or
down, which
>degenerated into some discussion about people putting pink
fuzzy toilet
>seat covers on their toilets. It was good for a lot of
laughs over time,
>but you kinda had to be there. <g> When Bonnie got
cancer, Tane found a
>pink fuzzy jacket and sent it to Bonnie. She used it to
meet people at a
>homeschooling conference we went to in Vancouver. "We'll
just meet at the
>pink fuzzy jacket" or something like that. But it was
always a joke. She
>wouldn't have worn pink in real life.
>
>And I wouldn't say she was always highly respected by
*everyone*. Bonnie
>was a lot like Sandra, in that she always said what she
thought....no
>beating around the bush. The unschoolers and attachment
parents liked her
>though.
>
>
>>Her writings on her website helped me a lot when I first
started exploring
>>unschooling.
>
>I recently discovered that they're still available....all
of them. The
>addy is on my computer that's away at the computer
hospital, but if you
>search on Wayback Machine or something like that and then
put in the addy
>www.islandnet.com/bedford you'll probably get it. You
might have to add a
>second /bedford. I'm not sure. If you can't find it, ask
me in a couple
>of days when I have the other 'puter back.
>Tia
>
>Tia Leschke leschke@...
>On Vancouver Island
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>Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:42:24 EST
> From: SandraDodd@...
>Subject: Re: struggling
>
>In a message dated 12/10/01 10:33:36 PM Mountain Standard
Time,
>leschke@... writes:
>
>
>> And I wouldn't say she was always highly respected by
*everyone*.
>Bonnie
>> was a lot like Sandra, in that she always said what she
thought....no
>> beating around the bush. The unschoolers and attachment
parents liked
>her
>> though.
>>
>
>So you mean she was highly respected by the brighter,
saner people?
>
>(Just guessing...)
>
>Sandra
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>Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:15:40 -0800
> From: Cindy <crma@...>
>Subject: Re: struggling
>
>
>
>SandraDodd@... wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 12/10/01 10:33:36 PM Mountain
Standard Time,
>> leschke@... writes:
>>
>> > And I wouldn't say she was always highly respected by
*everyone*.
>Bonnie
>> > was a lot like Sandra, in that she always said what
she thought....no
>> > beating around the bush. The unschoolers and
attachment parents liked
>her
>> > though.
>> >
>>
>> So you mean she was highly respected by the brighter,
saner people?
>>
>> (Just guessing...)
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>
>She was respected by the people whose posts I enjoy
reading, people whose
>words make me think and question why I'm doing whatever.
I'd say they
>were the saner, brighter people!
>
>--
>
>Cindy Ferguson
>crma@...
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>Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:31:09 -0800
> From: Cindy <crma@...>
>Subject: Re: struggling
>
>
>
>Tia Leschke wrote:
>>
>> >Her writings on her website helped me a lot when I
first started
>exploring
>> >unschooling.
>>
>> I recently discovered that they're still
available....all of them. The
>> addy is on my computer that's away at the computer
hospital, but if you
>> search on Wayback Machine or something like that and
then put in the addy
>> www.islandnet.com/bedford you'll probably get it. You
might have to add
>a
>> second /bedford. I'm not sure. If you can't find it,
ask me in a couple
>> of days when I have the other 'puter back.
>> Tia
>>
>
>When I used www2.islandnet.com/~bedford/bonnie.html for my
search, I found
>them! That's neat to see those again!!!
>
>--
>
>Cindy Ferguson
>crma@...
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>Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:50:28 EST
> From: Natrlmama@...
>Subject: Re: Shopping/Money
>
>In a message dated 12/9/01 1:55:14 PM Pacific Standard
Time,
>jdeets@... writes:
>
><< I'm thinking there should be a set base amount (even
if it's only 50
>cents a week) they get just because they are in our family
and are unable
>to
>get money any other way. >>>>
>
>In our family, my children (eldest dd) have come up with
ideas for making
>her
>own money. She doesn't ask for money or ask to work for me
to make money.
>I think it started out that she just liked the idea of
selling something
>and
>making money, not that she really had a want or need for
it, just the idea
>of a "sale". So we picked avocadoes and she sold them
when she was
>6. She made a fortune. Next year our friend, and avocado
rancher told
>us to come pick his so we did, and the kids almost tripled
their income.
>Obviously this is a little niche the children have found,
they have the
>right
>product (plus its FREE) and a good location.
>
>
><<<This small sum would permit them not to have to feel
the extent of my
>money-spending power all the time -- they would not be
completely
>dependent
>upon me (except for getting them to the stores :)). >>>>>>
>
>I am finding this allowance talk informative. I like what
you have said
>here.
>We don't give an allowance and I
>really hadn't planned on it. The way I was raised, I
didn't get
>one but I seldom seemed to want for anything either. Mom
paid for the
>show,
>or whatever. We did garage sales and I always got stuff.
With
>the kids it seems to be the same way. Plus their dad
leaves tons of change
>around which sometimes they ask if they can have. If it
falls from the
>dresser
>or counter, its goes to whomever finds it LOL. I thought
for a long time
>that
>this was the best way, letting them come up with ways to
earn money
>(but not making it too hard by letting them have the
change, plus Grandma
>money etc). but I do sometimes like the ideas discussed
with allowances.
>They opened savings accounts from their last sale and
frankly I think
>they have forgotten about the money.
>I have to share the cutest story today. We were at a
Stationary store and
>the kids were off shopping on their own, each carrying
his/her wallet. I
>was on one end they on the other with calling back and
forth mom? how
>much is this, I would go check or have them bring it to
me. Half way thru
>my shopping expedition my littlest who is 4 comes up to me
telling me
>he wants to buy this pencil. So I let him know how much it
is as he gets
>in line. I stand back a ways. He asks me to hold his
balloon and I say
>no you better pay for it first. He tells me he already
payed for it. He
>was
>just so cute to see standing in line like he knew his
business and paying
>for his stuff and he really didn't need me at all! When I
had been in
>another
>part of the store he had gotten in line and already paid
for the balloon!
>
> <<The other part is can they do things to add to their
regular amount if
>they want to get something special? I am loathe to make
regular
>keep-the-house-running-smoothly tasks up for financial
grabs, but maybe
>there
>are other things they could do to be entrepreneurs.... >>
>
>My dd has a book on ideas for kids to make money.
Something I think would
>be really cool for a kid to do is to sell outgrown toys,
games etc. on
>ebay.
>My
>dd wanted a new American Girl doll, so she sold her old
one on ebay for
>almost
>as much as we paid for it and purchased a new one. I
think she only had
>to pay a difference of about $6 and I picked up the
difference for her
>anyhow,
>plus I hate to have her pay for shipping so I paid for
that also.
>Sometimes I
>think I'm not teaching her about money when I don't have
her pay for those
>Shipping etc. but she has little and I have more and I
like to share.
>
>Kathy
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