Holiday Aftermath
tealzabet
what a joy to be reading these posts now..the out of town family is gone, and the family that remains is whole --and tho there is a small hole in their going, we are filled with love, --there is also relief.
Our guests, the 'teachers' hating yet believing in the public education system - (one active, one retired) they have no ability to fathom our choices and way of life ------ this was our first Christmas together in my home--- it was lovely ---we just lived our life and did not change or challege or defend.
at one point I overheard one of our out of towners state with great dismay to my mother (we all live together)
Liz NEVER disciplines him (my son) she never disciplines him at all! Children need disciplining you know...
to which my mother asked, "Why?"
long pause......and the out of towner was left with a very perplexed look upon her face and no answer......
I love this group! thank you for being here in cyber space.
Liz, the undisciplinarian lol
Our guests, the 'teachers' hating yet believing in the public education system - (one active, one retired) they have no ability to fathom our choices and way of life ------ this was our first Christmas together in my home--- it was lovely ---we just lived our life and did not change or challege or defend.
at one point I overheard one of our out of towners state with great dismay to my mother (we all live together)
Liz NEVER disciplines him (my son) she never disciplines him at all! Children need disciplining you know...
to which my mother asked, "Why?"
long pause......and the out of towner was left with a very perplexed look upon her face and no answer......
I love this group! thank you for being here in cyber space.
Liz, the undisciplinarian lol
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One time my very beloved Aunt told me that I needed to discipline my kids more. They were not misbehaving so I am not sure why she said that. I told her "Oh Auntie every morning I give them a spankin for anything they may do during the day." Then she said "oh no don't do that." She raised two amazing boys. Her son told me later that day that what she said was funny because she never "disciplined" them. Now my two sons are wonderful teens who I love to be around so I feel like I am doing something right.
I had another "Aunt" who was really my moms best friend who loved to tell me all I was doing wrong with my kids. She spanked. punished and constantly pushed her kids. One was killed as a teen in a drug deal gone bad and I was a mean drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her.
Tiffani
I had another "Aunt" who was really my moms best friend who loved to tell me all I was doing wrong with my kids. She spanked. punished and constantly pushed her kids. One was killed as a teen in a drug deal gone bad and I was a mean drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her.
Tiffani
----- Original Message -----
From: "tealzabet" <Tealzabet@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:48:54 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Holiday Aftermath
what a joy to be reading these posts now..the out of town family is gone, and the family that remains is whole --and tho there is a small hole in their going, we are filled with love, --there is also relief.
Our guests, the 'teachers' hating yet believing in the public education system - (one active, one retired) they have no ability to fathom our choices and way of life ------ this was our first Christmas together in my home--- it was lovely ---we just lived our life and did not change or challege or defend.
at one point I overheard one of our out of towners state with great dismay to my mother (we all live together)
Liz NEVER disciplines him (my son) she never disciplines him at all! Children need disciplining you know...
to which my mother asked, "Why?"
long pause......and the out of towner was left with a very perplexed look upon her face and no answer......
I love this group! thank you for being here in cyber space.
Liz, the undisciplinarian lol
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Sandra Dodd
-=-One was killed as a teen in a drug deal gone bad and I was a mean
drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her. -=-
Did you mean to write that one was a mean drunk? I'm thinking yes...
Many stories on my mom's side of the family involve death and prison
and guns and jumping freight trains and all manner of yuckiness.
Except one brother of hers who was not like that at all, never was,
his kids turned out great, his wife is still with him after 60 years
or so, and he stayed in contact with the others, too, but he was never
an alcoholic lunatic. It was easy for me to look at that and think
to be more like Uncle Junior and Aunt Mona than like the Joe Paul and
Billy Jack and Doris Mae subsets of that family. Eeeeek... My mom
was Mary Lou. For sure they had those kinds of names. Uncle Joe
Paul's oldest was named Paula Jo. I have no idea what became of her.
Her parents divorced when we were still really little.
My parents moved away from relatives when I was six, and that made my
life MUCH better. My dad was never a drinker, nor his family either.
He met my mom from being Junior's best friend. Junior and my dad
drank when they were "kids" (21, 22 or however old when they were
hanging out), and when they got married they were responsible,
hardworking dads. My mom stayed away from alcohol unless she was
visiting her family or had drinking guests, when I was younger. It
started creeping back upon her and she let it flow, and so it got
worse during my "tweens" and by the time I was in mid teens she was a
loathesome drunk. Bad drunk.
The decisions I made with my babies were in response to seeing the
effects of that ignorance and alcohol and irresponsibility.
I knew how I didn't want to be.
Sandra
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drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her. -=-
Did you mean to write that one was a mean drunk? I'm thinking yes...
Many stories on my mom's side of the family involve death and prison
and guns and jumping freight trains and all manner of yuckiness.
Except one brother of hers who was not like that at all, never was,
his kids turned out great, his wife is still with him after 60 years
or so, and he stayed in contact with the others, too, but he was never
an alcoholic lunatic. It was easy for me to look at that and think
to be more like Uncle Junior and Aunt Mona than like the Joe Paul and
Billy Jack and Doris Mae subsets of that family. Eeeeek... My mom
was Mary Lou. For sure they had those kinds of names. Uncle Joe
Paul's oldest was named Paula Jo. I have no idea what became of her.
Her parents divorced when we were still really little.
My parents moved away from relatives when I was six, and that made my
life MUCH better. My dad was never a drinker, nor his family either.
He met my mom from being Junior's best friend. Junior and my dad
drank when they were "kids" (21, 22 or however old when they were
hanging out), and when they got married they were responsible,
hardworking dads. My mom stayed away from alcohol unless she was
visiting her family or had drinking guests, when I was younger. It
started creeping back upon her and she let it flow, and so it got
worse during my "tweens" and by the time I was in mid teens she was a
loathesome drunk. Bad drunk.
The decisions I made with my babies were in response to seeing the
effects of that ignorance and alcohol and irresponsibility.
I knew how I didn't want to be.
Sandra
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-=-One was killed as a teen in a drug deal gone bad and I was a mean
drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her. -=-
--Did you mean to write that one was a mean drunk? I'm thinking yes...--
OMG Yes her other son was a mean drunk not me. LOL
I am sorry your mom succumbed to alcoholism I have lots of alcoholics in my family. My parents also moved away from my extended family when I was a child. Including my older brothers who were drug addicts. One of my brothers committed suicide when I was 6 due to a really bad trip on LSD. I have stayed far away from drugs and alcohol. I hope my children do too.
Tiffani
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drunk. There was no way I would take parenting advice from her. -=-
--Did you mean to write that one was a mean drunk? I'm thinking yes...--
OMG Yes her other son was a mean drunk not me. LOL
I am sorry your mom succumbed to alcoholism I have lots of alcoholics in my family. My parents also moved away from my extended family when I was a child. Including my older brothers who were drug addicts. One of my brothers committed suicide when I was 6 due to a really bad trip on LSD. I have stayed far away from drugs and alcohol. I hope my children do too.
Tiffani
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