Good Movies for Unschoolers
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Good for awakening ideas about learning:
Mary Poppins
The Sound of Music
Ferris Beuller's Day Off (too rough for some little kids)
Heidi (Shirley Temple)
Just plain rich with images, characters, history, ideas, STUFF:
Spartacus
El Cid
Ben Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Star Wars (all)
Karate Kid (all three in marathon was cool once!)
Hamlet (I like the one with Mel Gibson)
Romeo and Juliet (I like the one from the late 60's the Zeferelli)
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
The Music Man
The Last Starfighter
Last Action Hero
The Patriot
I think those would be easy to see the wealth in. When you get better at it,
more comfortable with what your child likes, knows, and wants to know, you
could find lots of value in just about any movie. We had plenty to talk
about the other day with The Litte Princess, with Shirley Temple. We talked
LOTS about characterization and motivation and plot detail after the first
Ninja Turtle Movie, when the boys were little. They have learned to milk a
movie for all it's worth, and I helped. Marty came in halfway through Joe
vs. the Volcano (which I bought at the fleamarket after someone quoted it
here, or at unschooling.com), and though I offered to rewind it, he was happy
to just pick up where it was and fall into it.
How NOT to watch movies:
Don't be cynical and critical and dismissive. Find the good acting, the good
sets, the good props. Don't say "OH BROTHER." If there's a movie you really
don't like, don't watch it with your kids. For me, that is Robin Hood,
Prince of Thieves, which I think is atrocious. I walked out of it in the
theatre. It was on TV the other night, and I watched some I had missed that
first night, and TRIED to watch it to the end, but the script and the acting
and the whole concept just irritated me beyond bearing, and I turned it off.
If someone else had been watching too and been interested, I would have just
left the room instead and let them watch in peace.
Can others add movies to this list? I'll just gather up a list and put it on
the web and when this discussion comes up again we can send people there for
viewing ideas.
Sandra
Mary Poppins
The Sound of Music
Ferris Beuller's Day Off (too rough for some little kids)
Heidi (Shirley Temple)
Just plain rich with images, characters, history, ideas, STUFF:
Spartacus
El Cid
Ben Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Star Wars (all)
Karate Kid (all three in marathon was cool once!)
Hamlet (I like the one with Mel Gibson)
Romeo and Juliet (I like the one from the late 60's the Zeferelli)
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
The Music Man
The Last Starfighter
Last Action Hero
The Patriot
I think those would be easy to see the wealth in. When you get better at it,
more comfortable with what your child likes, knows, and wants to know, you
could find lots of value in just about any movie. We had plenty to talk
about the other day with The Litte Princess, with Shirley Temple. We talked
LOTS about characterization and motivation and plot detail after the first
Ninja Turtle Movie, when the boys were little. They have learned to milk a
movie for all it's worth, and I helped. Marty came in halfway through Joe
vs. the Volcano (which I bought at the fleamarket after someone quoted it
here, or at unschooling.com), and though I offered to rewind it, he was happy
to just pick up where it was and fall into it.
How NOT to watch movies:
Don't be cynical and critical and dismissive. Find the good acting, the good
sets, the good props. Don't say "OH BROTHER." If there's a movie you really
don't like, don't watch it with your kids. For me, that is Robin Hood,
Prince of Thieves, which I think is atrocious. I walked out of it in the
theatre. It was on TV the other night, and I watched some I had missed that
first night, and TRIED to watch it to the end, but the script and the acting
and the whole concept just irritated me beyond bearing, and I turned it off.
If someone else had been watching too and been interested, I would have just
left the room instead and let them watch in peace.
Can others add movies to this list? I'll just gather up a list and put it on
the web and when this discussion comes up again we can send people there for
viewing ideas.
Sandra
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I can't make a long list - I'll have to just add them as they come
Fiddler on the Roof
All Mel Brooks movies - especially The Producers, Blazing Saddles, and The
Twelve Chairs
The Muppets Treasure Island
The Muppets Christmas Carol
Time Bandits
Wallace and Gromit cartoons - and Chicken Run
Into the West
The Secret of Roan Inish
paula, in a family of movie lovers
Fiddler on the Roof
All Mel Brooks movies - especially The Producers, Blazing Saddles, and The
Twelve Chairs
The Muppets Treasure Island
The Muppets Christmas Carol
Time Bandits
Wallace and Gromit cartoons - and Chicken Run
Into the West
The Secret of Roan Inish
paula, in a family of movie lovers
micnico1
A few of my favorites:
Baraka
Harold and Maude
American Movie
Moulin Rouge
Edward Scissorhands
Beetlejuice
Cinema Paridiso
There will be more just give me time.
Nic
Baraka
Harold and Maude
American Movie
Moulin Rouge
Edward Scissorhands
Beetlejuice
Cinema Paridiso
There will be more just give me time.
Nic
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From: SandraDodd@...
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Good Movies for Unschoolers
Good for awakening ideas about learning:
Mary Poppins
The Sound of Music
Ferris Beuller's Day Off (too rough for some little kids)
Heidi (Shirley Temple)
Just plain rich with images, characters, history, ideas, STUFF:
Spartacus
El Cid
Ben Hur
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Star Wars (all)
Karate Kid (all three in marathon was cool once!)
Hamlet (I like the one with Mel Gibson)
Romeo and Juliet (I like the one from the late 60's the Zeferelli)
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
The Music Man
The Last Starfighter
Last Action Hero
The Patriot
I think those would be easy to see the wealth in. When you get better at it,
more comfortable with what your child likes, knows, and wants to know, you
could find lots of value in just about any movie. We had plenty to talk
about the other day with The Litte Princess, with Shirley Temple. We talked
LOTS about characterization and motivation and plot detail after the first
Ninja Turtle Movie, when the boys were little. They have learned to milk a
movie for all it's worth, and I helped. Marty came in halfway through Joe
vs. the Volcano (which I bought at the fleamarket after someone quoted it
here, or at unschooling.com), and though I offered to rewind it, he was happy
to just pick up where it was and fall into it.
How NOT to watch movies:
Don't be cynical and critical and dismissive. Find the good acting, the good
sets, the good props. Don't say "OH BROTHER." If there's a movie you really
don't like, don't watch it with your kids. For me, that is Robin Hood,
Prince of Thieves, which I think is atrocious. I walked out of it in the
theatre. It was on TV the other night, and I watched some I had missed that
first night, and TRIED to watch it to the end, but the script and the acting
and the whole concept just irritated me beyond bearing, and I turned it off.
If someone else had been watching too and been interested, I would have just
left the room instead and let them watch in peace.
Can others add movies to this list? I'll just gather up a list and put it on
the web and when this discussion comes up again we can send people there for
viewing ideas.
Sandra
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moonmeghan
Antz - Great story about individualism within a community.
Impromptu - Story of Chopin and George Sands (her kids are
fabulously imaginative)
The Three Lives of Thomasina
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
I'm sure I have others lurking around in the back of my brain
somewhere, but for now, that's it. If Tamzin were here, I'm sure
she would have many to contribute.
Meghan
Impromptu - Story of Chopin and George Sands (her kids are
fabulously imaginative)
The Three Lives of Thomasina
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
I'm sure I have others lurking around in the back of my brain
somewhere, but for now, that's it. If Tamzin were here, I'm sure
she would have many to contribute.
Meghan
carolyn
Spitfire Grill
Mask
These are both for older kids, I think. My daughter's 11 and they
seemed to have quite an impact on her.
Did I read about Spitfire Grill here? I don't remember. But it has an
awful lot to say for a "small" film.
And Mask because it says so much about beauty and love. My daughter
kept asking if he was going to have plastic surgery and be cute at the
end, hoping. She couldn't wait to see what he really looked like.
Below is the spoiler, so don't read it if you don't already know the end
of the movies.
These are the first movies my daughter remembers seeing where the main
character dies. It blew her away. She'd believed it was practically a
law, that main characters never die. You could just watch her face and
see her mind opening up to possibility as we talked about it.
Carolyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Mask
These are both for older kids, I think. My daughter's 11 and they
seemed to have quite an impact on her.
Did I read about Spitfire Grill here? I don't remember. But it has an
awful lot to say for a "small" film.
And Mask because it says so much about beauty and love. My daughter
kept asking if he was going to have plastic surgery and be cute at the
end, hoping. She couldn't wait to see what he really looked like.
Below is the spoiler, so don't read it if you don't already know the end
of the movies.
These are the first movies my daughter remembers seeing where the main
character dies. It blew her away. She'd believed it was practically a
law, that main characters never die. You could just watch her face and
see her mind opening up to possibility as we talked about it.
Carolyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
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> put it on
> the web and when this discussion comes up again we can send people
> there for
> viewing ideas.
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> Sandra
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I got a few pictures scanned to email, and thought to
post them, BUT ? I seem to be unable to follow the
directions in the Help section. HELP?
I run into trouble when it says to find the file with
the pictures. I don't sem to be able to interpret the
logos or just plain don't know what I'm doing.
Can someone post with 1. 2. 3. in American English for
Swamp Rats?
Sharon of the Swamp What a Moon!!! Pow Wow this
weekend in St George. Monster Trucks tomorrow. The
buds on so many tender plants froze. But not all.
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post them, BUT ? I seem to be unable to follow the
directions in the Help section. HELP?
I run into trouble when it says to find the file with
the pictures. I don't sem to be able to interpret the
logos or just plain don't know what I'm doing.
Can someone post with 1. 2. 3. in American English for
Swamp Rats?
Sharon of the Swamp What a Moon!!! Pow Wow this
weekend in St George. Monster Trucks tomorrow. The
buds on so many tender plants froze. But not all.
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Sharon, it sounds like your 90% their already but here is the 1 2 3 list you
asked for.
1. go to the AlwaysLearnging group page at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlwaysLearning/
2. Click on Photos in the left column
3. Click on Add Photo, its below the Photos header and above the
1-16 of 25 list
3a.By now you will probably have to close one or more popup ad windows <G>
4. Where it says locate and name your photos
click the browse button by photo 1:
5. This should bring out your computer's standard find the file dialog
box. If you put the photo in an easy place to start with, like right on the
desktop, it should be easy to find it in this dialog box
6. Choose the file name of photo you want to post
7. this should take you back to the locate and name your photos page
8. scroll to the bottom of the page and click Upload
9. depending upon the size of the photo and your connection this should
take between a few seconds and a few minutes
10. in the add photos confirmation page click Back to Album.
11. Feel the joy and fulfillment that your friends on the AlwaysLearning
newsgroup can enjoy your Photo
12. do the same with a handwriting sample <G>
-Dan Vilter
on 3/1/02 5:44 AM, Sharon Rudd at bearspawprint@... wrote:
asked for.
1. go to the AlwaysLearnging group page at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlwaysLearning/
2. Click on Photos in the left column
3. Click on Add Photo, its below the Photos header and above the
1-16 of 25 list
3a.By now you will probably have to close one or more popup ad windows <G>
4. Where it says locate and name your photos
click the browse button by photo 1:
5. This should bring out your computer's standard find the file dialog
box. If you put the photo in an easy place to start with, like right on the
desktop, it should be easy to find it in this dialog box
6. Choose the file name of photo you want to post
7. this should take you back to the locate and name your photos page
8. scroll to the bottom of the page and click Upload
9. depending upon the size of the photo and your connection this should
take between a few seconds and a few minutes
10. in the add photos confirmation page click Back to Album.
11. Feel the joy and fulfillment that your friends on the AlwaysLearning
newsgroup can enjoy your Photo
12. do the same with a handwriting sample <G>
-Dan Vilter
on 3/1/02 5:44 AM, Sharon Rudd at bearspawprint@... wrote:
> I got a few pictures scanned to email, and thought toSent using the Entourage X Test Drive.
> post them, BUT ? I seem to be unable to follow the
> directions in the Help section. HELP?
>
> I run into trouble when it says to find the file with
> the pictures. I don't sem to be able to interpret the
> logos or just plain don't know what I'm doing.
>
> Can someone post with 1. 2. 3. in American English for
> Swamp Rats?
Sharon Rudd
Thank you, Dan. I didn't save the pictures in an easy
to find file. I scanned them directly to email.
Back to it, later. I'll move 'em.
Thanks again,
Sharon, trying to get unswamped
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to find file. I scanned them directly to email.
Back to it, later. I'll move 'em.
Thanks again,
Sharon, trying to get unswamped
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An interesting study
By Jean Houston
A landmark UCLA study suggests that women respond to
stress with a
cascade of brain chemicals that cause us to make and
maintain
friendships with other women. It's a stunning finding
that has turned
five decades of stress research-most of it on
men-upside down.
"Until this study was published, scientists generally
believed that when
people experience stress, they trigger a hormonal
cascade that revs the body
to either stand and fight or flee as fast as
possible," explains Laura
Cousino Klein, PhD, now an assistant professor of
biobehavioral health at
Pennsylvania State University in State College and one
of the study's
authors. It's an ancient survival mechanism left over
from the time we were
chased across the planet by saber-toothed tigers. Now
the researchers
suspect
that women have a larger behavioral repertoire than
just "fight or flight."
In fact, says Dr. Klein, it seems that when the
hormone oxytocin is released
as part of the stress response in a woman, it buffers
the fight or flight
response and encourages her to tend children and
gather with other women
instead. When she actually engages in this tending or
befriending, studies
suggest that more oxytocin is released, which further
counters stress and
produces a calming effect. This calming response does
not occur in men, says
Dr. Klein, because testosterone-which men produce in
high levels when
they're
under stress - seems to reduce the effects of
oxytocin. Estrogen, she adds,
seems to enhance it.
The discovery that women respond to stress differently
than men was made in
a
classic "aha!" moment shared by two women scientists
who
were talking one day in a lab at UCLA. "There was this
joke that when the
women who worked in the lab were stressed, they came
in, cleaned
the lab, had coffee, and bonded," says Dr. Klein.
"When the men were
stressed, they holed up somewhere on their own. "I
commented one day to
fellow researcher Shelley Taylor that nearly 90% of
the stress research is
on
males. I showed her the data from my lab, and the two
of us knew instantly
that we were onto something." The women cleared their
schedules and started meeting with one scientist after
another from
various research specialties. Very quickly, Drs. Klein
and Taylor
discovered that by not including women in stress
research, scientists had
made a huge mistake: The fact that women respond to
stress differently than
men has significant implications for our health.
It may take some time for new studies to reveal all
the ways that oxytocin
encourages us to care for children and hang out with
other women, but the
"tend and befriend" notion developed by Drs. Klein and
Taylor may explain
why
women consistently outlive men. Study after study has
found that social ties
reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure,
heart rate, and
cholesterol. "There's no doubt," says Dr. Klein, "that
friends are helping
us
live longer."
In one study, for example, researchers found that
people who had no friends
increased their risk of death over a 6-month period.
In another study, those
who had the most friends over a 9-year period cut
their risk of death by
more
than 60%. Friends are also helping us live better. The
famed Nurses' Health
Study from Harvard Medical School found that the more
friends women had, the
less likely they were to develop physical impairments
as they aged, and the
more likely they were to be leading a joyful life. In
fact, the results were
so significant, the researchers concluded, that not
having a close friend or
confidante was as detrimental to your health as
smoking or carrying extra
weight! And that's not all: When the researchers
looked at how well the
women
functioned after the death of their spouse, they
found that even in the
face
of this bigger stressor of all, those women who had a
close friend and
confidante were more likely to survive the experience
without any new
physical impairment or permanent
Yet if friends counter the stress that seems to
swallow up so much of our
life these days, if they keep us healthy and even add
years to our life, why
is it so hard to find time to be with them? That's a
question that has
troubled researcher Ruthellen Josselson, PhD, coauthor
of Best Friends: The
Pleasures and Perils of Girls' and Women's Friendships
(Three River
Press,1998). "Every time we get overly busy with work
and family, the first
thing we do is let go of friendships with other
women," explains Dr.
Josselson. "We push them right to the back burner.
That's really a mistake,
because women are such a source of strength to each
other. We nurture one
another. And we need to have unpressured space in
which we can do the
special
kind of talk that women do when they're with other
women. It's a very
healing
experience."
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By Jean Houston
A landmark UCLA study suggests that women respond to
stress with a
cascade of brain chemicals that cause us to make and
maintain
friendships with other women. It's a stunning finding
that has turned
five decades of stress research-most of it on
men-upside down.
"Until this study was published, scientists generally
believed that when
people experience stress, they trigger a hormonal
cascade that revs the body
to either stand and fight or flee as fast as
possible," explains Laura
Cousino Klein, PhD, now an assistant professor of
biobehavioral health at
Pennsylvania State University in State College and one
of the study's
authors. It's an ancient survival mechanism left over
from the time we were
chased across the planet by saber-toothed tigers. Now
the researchers
suspect
that women have a larger behavioral repertoire than
just "fight or flight."
In fact, says Dr. Klein, it seems that when the
hormone oxytocin is released
as part of the stress response in a woman, it buffers
the fight or flight
response and encourages her to tend children and
gather with other women
instead. When she actually engages in this tending or
befriending, studies
suggest that more oxytocin is released, which further
counters stress and
produces a calming effect. This calming response does
not occur in men, says
Dr. Klein, because testosterone-which men produce in
high levels when
they're
under stress - seems to reduce the effects of
oxytocin. Estrogen, she adds,
seems to enhance it.
The discovery that women respond to stress differently
than men was made in
a
classic "aha!" moment shared by two women scientists
who
were talking one day in a lab at UCLA. "There was this
joke that when the
women who worked in the lab were stressed, they came
in, cleaned
the lab, had coffee, and bonded," says Dr. Klein.
"When the men were
stressed, they holed up somewhere on their own. "I
commented one day to
fellow researcher Shelley Taylor that nearly 90% of
the stress research is
on
males. I showed her the data from my lab, and the two
of us knew instantly
that we were onto something." The women cleared their
schedules and started meeting with one scientist after
another from
various research specialties. Very quickly, Drs. Klein
and Taylor
discovered that by not including women in stress
research, scientists had
made a huge mistake: The fact that women respond to
stress differently than
men has significant implications for our health.
It may take some time for new studies to reveal all
the ways that oxytocin
encourages us to care for children and hang out with
other women, but the
"tend and befriend" notion developed by Drs. Klein and
Taylor may explain
why
women consistently outlive men. Study after study has
found that social ties
reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure,
heart rate, and
cholesterol. "There's no doubt," says Dr. Klein, "that
friends are helping
us
live longer."
In one study, for example, researchers found that
people who had no friends
increased their risk of death over a 6-month period.
In another study, those
who had the most friends over a 9-year period cut
their risk of death by
more
than 60%. Friends are also helping us live better. The
famed Nurses' Health
Study from Harvard Medical School found that the more
friends women had, the
less likely they were to develop physical impairments
as they aged, and the
more likely they were to be leading a joyful life. In
fact, the results were
so significant, the researchers concluded, that not
having a close friend or
confidante was as detrimental to your health as
smoking or carrying extra
weight! And that's not all: When the researchers
looked at how well the
women
functioned after the death of their spouse, they
found that even in the
face
of this bigger stressor of all, those women who had a
close friend and
confidante were more likely to survive the experience
without any new
physical impairment or permanent
Yet if friends counter the stress that seems to
swallow up so much of our
life these days, if they keep us healthy and even add
years to our life, why
is it so hard to find time to be with them? That's a
question that has
troubled researcher Ruthellen Josselson, PhD, coauthor
of Best Friends: The
Pleasures and Perils of Girls' and Women's Friendships
(Three River
Press,1998). "Every time we get overly busy with work
and family, the first
thing we do is let go of friendships with other
women," explains Dr.
Josselson. "We push them right to the back burner.
That's really a mistake,
because women are such a source of strength to each
other. We nurture one
another. And we need to have unpressured space in
which we can do the
special
kind of talk that women do when they're with other
women. It's a very
healing
experience."
__________________________________________________
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