Negotiating with Kids and Time to Apologize
astrologerdawn
Thanks Pat and Deb L for putting perspective on what was being said
and apologies to Sandra for my outburst.... I was PMSing.... No
excuse but I'm sure many of you are aware of that situation LOL... I
think that being new to unschooling (7 months) I tend to get
defensive about the things that are happening in my household with
the kids. I know this is a learning process for myself and the kids
and also how to just let things go and look at the positive in
information that is given to me from seasoned unschoolers.
I will not be lurking... that's not my style... Again apologies for
my bratty school like behavior and thanks for the input of all in
helping me understand more about myself and unschooling.
Dawn
PS Please put on your calendar that Dawn PMS's at this time
and apologies to Sandra for my outburst.... I was PMSing.... No
excuse but I'm sure many of you are aware of that situation LOL... I
think that being new to unschooling (7 months) I tend to get
defensive about the things that are happening in my household with
the kids. I know this is a learning process for myself and the kids
and also how to just let things go and look at the positive in
information that is given to me from seasoned unschoolers.
I will not be lurking... that's not my style... Again apologies for
my bratty school like behavior and thanks for the input of all in
helping me understand more about myself and unschooling.
Dawn
PS Please put on your calendar that Dawn PMS's at this time
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In a message dated 2/12/02 8:34:04 AM, dawn@... writes:
<< apologies to Sandra for my outburst.... I was PMSing.... No
excuse >>
Thanks.
It didn't crush my feelings. I was only concerned about the list itself.
I'm used to people jumping me for being straightforward, but I decided a long
time ago that I would continue to point out when when a statement or theory
or practice misses the potential of families and unschooling, and let the
chips fall where they may. There will always be curriculum salesmen. They
make a big cut of sales. There will always be schools. There might not
always be people who are willing to help other unschoolers for free. Or
there might be, but they might be the people who don't quite understand it
themselves, or who tried it without a real understanding and reacted with
frustration, and tell other people it doesn't really work.
When Kirby was six and seven I got a lot of criticism, and was openly
pooh-poohed with "OH, you can ignore her; her oldest child is only seven."
Now I'm past the halfway mark with my kids I figure when Holly's a teen and
up and out, I'm not going to be as involved with others' newness. I had
first vowed to work at helping others be brave and unschool for four years,
because I felt really guilty about talking my cousin out of homeschooling.
The four years have come and gone and I'm still helping because it seems
helpful and appreciated--because I see the difference in families, and
because I get thank-you notes.
When I respond to posts it's very rarely directed to the person who wrote the
post. Sometimes it is, if a particular question was asked (especially on
unschooling.com, or a question about something specific), but in the general
philosophical exchange, I don't even look at who wrote what, and I will pull
a statement from someone else's quote and comment on it without ever looking
back to see where it first came from.
Because mailers have different automatic settings, some people's (and mine
too) will say "Babbette wrote..." just because a quote was taken from a post
where Babbette quoted someone quoting someone.
I want to deal with ideas here, and not with the people who brought them to
the table. There are some others on this list with the very same intent.
Beginning unschoolers can go to unschooling.com and read a thousand ideas
today. Anyone depending on this list (or any one source) for their total
unschooling support, idea-font, and guidance could be disappointed. But
those who want to look at ideas in the light of unschooling that's working
shouldn't be disappointed as long as we keep the personal elements to a
minimum.
Sandra
<< apologies to Sandra for my outburst.... I was PMSing.... No
excuse >>
Thanks.
It didn't crush my feelings. I was only concerned about the list itself.
I'm used to people jumping me for being straightforward, but I decided a long
time ago that I would continue to point out when when a statement or theory
or practice misses the potential of families and unschooling, and let the
chips fall where they may. There will always be curriculum salesmen. They
make a big cut of sales. There will always be schools. There might not
always be people who are willing to help other unschoolers for free. Or
there might be, but they might be the people who don't quite understand it
themselves, or who tried it without a real understanding and reacted with
frustration, and tell other people it doesn't really work.
When Kirby was six and seven I got a lot of criticism, and was openly
pooh-poohed with "OH, you can ignore her; her oldest child is only seven."
Now I'm past the halfway mark with my kids I figure when Holly's a teen and
up and out, I'm not going to be as involved with others' newness. I had
first vowed to work at helping others be brave and unschool for four years,
because I felt really guilty about talking my cousin out of homeschooling.
The four years have come and gone and I'm still helping because it seems
helpful and appreciated--because I see the difference in families, and
because I get thank-you notes.
When I respond to posts it's very rarely directed to the person who wrote the
post. Sometimes it is, if a particular question was asked (especially on
unschooling.com, or a question about something specific), but in the general
philosophical exchange, I don't even look at who wrote what, and I will pull
a statement from someone else's quote and comment on it without ever looking
back to see where it first came from.
Because mailers have different automatic settings, some people's (and mine
too) will say "Babbette wrote..." just because a quote was taken from a post
where Babbette quoted someone quoting someone.
I want to deal with ideas here, and not with the people who brought them to
the table. There are some others on this list with the very same intent.
Beginning unschoolers can go to unschooling.com and read a thousand ideas
today. Anyone depending on this list (or any one source) for their total
unschooling support, idea-font, and guidance could be disappointed. But
those who want to look at ideas in the light of unschooling that's working
shouldn't be disappointed as long as we keep the personal elements to a
minimum.
Sandra
Pat Cald...
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>But those who want to look at ideas in the light of unschooling that's >working shouldn't be disappointed as long as we keep the personal >elements to a minimum.Sandra, I have been very pleased with this list. I am impressed with how much time you take to share your ideas with those of us that are new. Thank you!
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>Sandra
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