Daughter says she wants a new mommy
Darcel
This is the 3rd time she has said this in two weeks. I asked her why and she said it was because i was mean. Then she told me that she was the new nice mommy.
I'm not really sure what to make of it. I know it hurts my feelings and makes me want to cry.
I've come a very long way from the mother/parent I was 2 years ago.
It's still hard for me not to yell and snap at her. she's 4.5 and I'm still working on bonding with her.
There is something in the way I don't know what it is. I get so upset with myself for not being able to figure this out.
I think it all started after the birth of our 2nd daughter. Our first was 2.5 at the time. She was very attached to me and called everyone mommy. I was the only one she wanted to go to sleep with at night.
After her sister was born things changed, but I started wearing her sister so I could still interact with Nakiah the way i was before.
Sometimes it feels like Nakiah belongs to my husband and Ava belongs to me. I don't like that at all. My husband blows me off and says I'm being silly.
I long for my oldest to want and need me the way she used to. I know it won't be exactly the same because she's much older now, but I feel like she's rejecting me.
The only thing I can think of is that she feels rejected by me.
I thought we were doing so well, but now I feel like there is a wall there and I don't know what to do.
We don't spank, stopped using timeouts a long time ago.
I'm jealous of the relationship my husband and daughter have. I want that with her! It's really breaking my heart. The other night my husband was stuck in traffic so I was getiing the girls ready for bed by myself, Nakiah looks at me and says "I don't wanna go to sleep with you. I want daddy"
She did end up going to sleep with me, but she didn't really want to.
I'm tired of feeling like I'm being punched in the gut. What else can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over reacting and I need to let her be?
Darcel
I'm not really sure what to make of it. I know it hurts my feelings and makes me want to cry.
I've come a very long way from the mother/parent I was 2 years ago.
It's still hard for me not to yell and snap at her. she's 4.5 and I'm still working on bonding with her.
There is something in the way I don't know what it is. I get so upset with myself for not being able to figure this out.
I think it all started after the birth of our 2nd daughter. Our first was 2.5 at the time. She was very attached to me and called everyone mommy. I was the only one she wanted to go to sleep with at night.
After her sister was born things changed, but I started wearing her sister so I could still interact with Nakiah the way i was before.
Sometimes it feels like Nakiah belongs to my husband and Ava belongs to me. I don't like that at all. My husband blows me off and says I'm being silly.
I long for my oldest to want and need me the way she used to. I know it won't be exactly the same because she's much older now, but I feel like she's rejecting me.
The only thing I can think of is that she feels rejected by me.
I thought we were doing so well, but now I feel like there is a wall there and I don't know what to do.
We don't spank, stopped using timeouts a long time ago.
I'm jealous of the relationship my husband and daughter have. I want that with her! It's really breaking my heart. The other night my husband was stuck in traffic so I was getiing the girls ready for bed by myself, Nakiah looks at me and says "I don't wanna go to sleep with you. I want daddy"
She did end up going to sleep with me, but she didn't really want to.
I'm tired of feeling like I'm being punched in the gut. What else can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over reacting and I need to let her be?
Darcel
Sandra Dodd
-=-I'm not really sure what to make of it. I know it hurts my feelings
and makes me want to cry.-=-
Try role playing. Let her be the mommy and you be the daughter. Be
neutral and see what she'll do. It might be fun. You might learn
some things she would like moms to do. Play along without making it
about you, but about letting her express herself.
It does sound that you're having a bout of immaturity. How can she
feel confident in the love of a strong parent if you're so fragile?
-=I'm jealous of the relationship my husband and daughter have. I want
that with her! It's really breaking my heart.-=-
Buck up and breathe.
http://sandradodd.com/breathing
-=-The other night my husband was stuck in traffic so I was getiing
the girls ready for bed by myself, Nakiah looks at me and says "I
don't wanna go to sleep with you. I want daddy"
She did end up going to sleep with me, but she didn't really want to.-=-
I hope you said you were sorry, and that you would try to stay awake
with her until he got home.
-=-I'm tired of feeling like I'm being punched in the gut. What else
can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over reacting
and I need to let her be?-=-
Is this baby responsible for your emotional wellbeing?
Do a thousand little things to change and better your relationship.
Smile. Be patient. Be fun and sweet and interested in her. Ask her
advice sometimes. Let her have her way about something you usually
just decide for her--could be something really minor.
I think you are overreacting, but I don't think you need to "let her
be." Be WITH her. Be the newer nicer mommy.
Sandra
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and makes me want to cry.-=-
Try role playing. Let her be the mommy and you be the daughter. Be
neutral and see what she'll do. It might be fun. You might learn
some things she would like moms to do. Play along without making it
about you, but about letting her express herself.
It does sound that you're having a bout of immaturity. How can she
feel confident in the love of a strong parent if you're so fragile?
-=I'm jealous of the relationship my husband and daughter have. I want
that with her! It's really breaking my heart.-=-
Buck up and breathe.
http://sandradodd.com/breathing
-=-The other night my husband was stuck in traffic so I was getiing
the girls ready for bed by myself, Nakiah looks at me and says "I
don't wanna go to sleep with you. I want daddy"
She did end up going to sleep with me, but she didn't really want to.-=-
I hope you said you were sorry, and that you would try to stay awake
with her until he got home.
-=-I'm tired of feeling like I'm being punched in the gut. What else
can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over reacting
and I need to let her be?-=-
Is this baby responsible for your emotional wellbeing?
Do a thousand little things to change and better your relationship.
Smile. Be patient. Be fun and sweet and interested in her. Ask her
advice sometimes. Let her have her way about something you usually
just decide for her--could be something really minor.
I think you are overreacting, but I don't think you need to "let her
be." Be WITH her. Be the newer nicer mommy.
Sandra
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Su Penn
On May 22, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Darcel wrote:
time Daddy love around the age of three. Eric used to say things to me
when he was little like, "You see how you have that little spot beside
your nose? Daddy doesn't have a spot like that. That's why I like
Daddy better." Me: "Hmmm." [Inwardly: "Your Daddy has plenty of
spots!" LOL.]
About two years ago, I overheard them plotting my death. It was just
after Carl had weaned, and he was like, "Yeah, and I'm not nursing
anymore so I don't need her!" (This is a funny story, but weirdly,
some people freak out when I tell it, as if my 3yo and my 6yo were
actually planning to off me!)
I think part of it might be developmental, as they shift away from
that early super-dependence on Mom. David and I also theorize that it
has to do with me being the stay-at-home Mom: I'm like the air they
breathe, hardly worth commenting on. But David is gone all day 5 days
a week and his homecoming is a celebration every afternoon, and time
with him is extra-precious because of it.
Carl is just now being willing to let me put him to bed sometimes
instead of David. Eric will accept me if David isn't home but
otherwise it's got to be David. Doesn't seem like that big a deal to
me. I'm with them all the time and we have a great time, they climb on
me and hug me, they're affectionate, they obviously love me. It's good
that they love their dad too.
A lot of times when they say things like, "I wish Daddy were here
instead of you," I'll just say, "Sounds like you miss your dad," or,
"I like it when David is here with us, too," or "I miss him when he's
at work, too." Or I'll ask if they want to call him, or write him a
note, or IM with him. Supporting that Daddy-love, because, really
think about how great it is that my partner is so involved with them
that they have developed those kinds of ties and feelings for him. I
can see just in my circle of acquaintances that it's not true for a
lot of men.
I'm the mom. Of course they love me. They can't help it. What they say
in a cranky moment, or the awkward ways they express their feelings
for their dad doesn't change that.
Of course, it's easy for me to say this since they never carried
actually through with their death-plot.
Su
mom of Eric, 8; Carl; 5; Yehva, almost 2
> I'm tired of feeling like I'm being punched in the gut. What elseMight be over-reacting. My two boys, now 8 and 5, both developed big-
> can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over
> reacting and I need to let her be?
time Daddy love around the age of three. Eric used to say things to me
when he was little like, "You see how you have that little spot beside
your nose? Daddy doesn't have a spot like that. That's why I like
Daddy better." Me: "Hmmm." [Inwardly: "Your Daddy has plenty of
spots!" LOL.]
About two years ago, I overheard them plotting my death. It was just
after Carl had weaned, and he was like, "Yeah, and I'm not nursing
anymore so I don't need her!" (This is a funny story, but weirdly,
some people freak out when I tell it, as if my 3yo and my 6yo were
actually planning to off me!)
I think part of it might be developmental, as they shift away from
that early super-dependence on Mom. David and I also theorize that it
has to do with me being the stay-at-home Mom: I'm like the air they
breathe, hardly worth commenting on. But David is gone all day 5 days
a week and his homecoming is a celebration every afternoon, and time
with him is extra-precious because of it.
Carl is just now being willing to let me put him to bed sometimes
instead of David. Eric will accept me if David isn't home but
otherwise it's got to be David. Doesn't seem like that big a deal to
me. I'm with them all the time and we have a great time, they climb on
me and hug me, they're affectionate, they obviously love me. It's good
that they love their dad too.
A lot of times when they say things like, "I wish Daddy were here
instead of you," I'll just say, "Sounds like you miss your dad," or,
"I like it when David is here with us, too," or "I miss him when he's
at work, too." Or I'll ask if they want to call him, or write him a
note, or IM with him. Supporting that Daddy-love, because, really
think about how great it is that my partner is so involved with them
that they have developed those kinds of ties and feelings for him. I
can see just in my circle of acquaintances that it's not true for a
lot of men.
I'm the mom. Of course they love me. They can't help it. What they say
in a cranky moment, or the awkward ways they express their feelings
for their dad doesn't change that.
Of course, it's easy for me to say this since they never carried
actually through with their death-plot.
Su
mom of Eric, 8; Carl; 5; Yehva, almost 2
Sandra Dodd
-=-Of course, it's easy for me to say this since they never carried
actually through with their death-plot.-=-
Not yet.
Sandra Bwa-ha-dahd
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actually through with their death-plot.-=-
Not yet.
Sandra Bwa-ha-dahd
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Kris
I take what kids seriously but not personally, it's not their job to guard
their words for my feelings. Their bonds with people can change often based
on growth in maturity. One big way you could improve your relationship is
to empathize with her when she says she wants her dad. Listen to her when
she says you are mean, find out what is bothering her. If you are centered
on how it makes you feel she may not think you take her seriously about how
SHE feels.
Kris
their words for my feelings. Their bonds with people can change often based
on growth in maturity. One big way you could improve your relationship is
to empathize with her when she says she wants her dad. Listen to her when
she says you are mean, find out what is bothering her. If you are centered
on how it makes you feel she may not think you take her seriously about how
SHE feels.
Kris
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Darcel <harmonpanther228@...> wrote:
> What else can I do to change and better our relationship? Or am I over
> reacting and I need to let her be?
>
> Darcel
>
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Dickinson
I haz a blog, u can reedz it!
www.krisspeed.blogspot.com
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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
About two years ago, I overheard them plotting my death. It was just
after Carl had weaned, and he was like, "Yeah, and I'm not nursing
anymore so I don't need her!" (This is a funny story, but weirdly,
some people freak out when I tell it, as if my 3yo and my 6yo were
actually planning to off me!)
-=-=-=-
Hi Su I was laughing so had at this story.
I had images of Stewie plotting to murder Lois
Anyways, last year when my daughter Gigi was 2 and a half and still now at almost 3 and a half
she goes into "liking dad over mom" big time.
Specially because she loves being outside around the cows.
She loves to go with him run errands a lot.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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after Carl had weaned, and he was like, "Yeah, and I'm not nursing
anymore so I don't need her!" (This is a funny story, but weirdly,
some people freak out when I tell it, as if my 3yo and my 6yo were
actually planning to off me!)
-=-=-=-
Hi Su I was laughing so had at this story.
I had images of Stewie plotting to murder Lois
Anyways, last year when my daughter Gigi was 2 and a half and still now at almost 3 and a half
she goes into "liking dad over mom" big time.
Specially because she loves being outside around the cows.
She loves to go with him run errands a lot.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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Tammy Curry
Now that I have cleaned the Mountain Dew from my keyboard after reading about plotting to kill mommy I can respond.
My 4 year old and I recently had a pretty long conversation about listening to words. He was tired and frustrated one afternoon and when this happens he actually speaks so quickly that I cannot understand what he is saying. I also know that there plenty of feelings and emotions he tries to express but isn't quite sure how. Add all this together and you get a meltdown, with him at least. I hugged him and just whispered to him while he cried, once he calmed down and had a sippy cup of chocolate milk (I knew he was also hungry but too upset to eat so a quick fix until he was ready to eat as well) we were able to talk. He looked at me and said calmly that I wasn't listening to his words. We were sitting on the floor still though I leaned over a little bit so we were on the same level. I asked him to repeat slowly what he had said so that I could hear his words. He looked at me and said, "No, mommy LISTEN not hear." He was trying to explain what he had been
doing with his friend and I didn't catch a few key words. He got frustrated because I was missing a key element of his story. So we talked about how to listen to each others words. Once he got frustrated he couldn't put his thoughts together, something I totally relate to. So we decided that when this happens we will both sit down and take a deep breath. I have also started asking him to slow down so that I can listen to his words or if I need to tell him something I remind him that he needs to listen to mommy's words too. But when I hear him say you are not listening to my words I know he is getting frustrated with me or someone else.
Perhaps your daughter saying she wants a new mommy is a similar message. Something is going on and she doesn't feel you are listening to what she is saying. I know with my son there are times when he doesn't know the right word to express what he is thinking so we have to sit and figure it out. We have also had bouts of "I hate you!" "I don't want you!" And other such expressions. It is frustration, tired, and or hungry with my son. 4 years old seems to be one of those transitions in development. Still very much a baby/toddler but becoming a "big kid" too. Both of my kids wanted to hold on to being babies and at the same time wanted to be big kids.
Take what your daughter is saying seriously but not to heart. She loves her mommy but maybe she needs something different from mommy now than when she did even 2 weeks ago, 2 months ago, etc. Roleplaying would be a good way to find out what she needs or help her figure out what she needs. As for wanting to be with daddy and having a strong relationship with him support that. It is an awesome thing for kids to have happy, healthy relationships with both parents. They don't belong to either one of you but to themselves. They will just express it in different ways. Your daughter is confident enough in your love of her to try to tell you she needs something else. It isn't her responsibility to make sure you are self confident but it is yours to help her build her confidence in herself.
As an aside, my daughter used to tell me I was fired when she got frustrate with me. Thank you Donald Trump.
Tammy Curry, Director of Chaos
http://tammycurry.blogspot.com/
http://crazy-homeschool-adventures.blogspot.com/
"If a child is to keep alive his inborn sense of wonder, he needs the companionship of at least one adult who can share it, rediscovering with him the joy, excitement and mystery of the world we live in."
Rachel Carson
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My 4 year old and I recently had a pretty long conversation about listening to words. He was tired and frustrated one afternoon and when this happens he actually speaks so quickly that I cannot understand what he is saying. I also know that there plenty of feelings and emotions he tries to express but isn't quite sure how. Add all this together and you get a meltdown, with him at least. I hugged him and just whispered to him while he cried, once he calmed down and had a sippy cup of chocolate milk (I knew he was also hungry but too upset to eat so a quick fix until he was ready to eat as well) we were able to talk. He looked at me and said calmly that I wasn't listening to his words. We were sitting on the floor still though I leaned over a little bit so we were on the same level. I asked him to repeat slowly what he had said so that I could hear his words. He looked at me and said, "No, mommy LISTEN not hear." He was trying to explain what he had been
doing with his friend and I didn't catch a few key words. He got frustrated because I was missing a key element of his story. So we talked about how to listen to each others words. Once he got frustrated he couldn't put his thoughts together, something I totally relate to. So we decided that when this happens we will both sit down and take a deep breath. I have also started asking him to slow down so that I can listen to his words or if I need to tell him something I remind him that he needs to listen to mommy's words too. But when I hear him say you are not listening to my words I know he is getting frustrated with me or someone else.
Perhaps your daughter saying she wants a new mommy is a similar message. Something is going on and she doesn't feel you are listening to what she is saying. I know with my son there are times when he doesn't know the right word to express what he is thinking so we have to sit and figure it out. We have also had bouts of "I hate you!" "I don't want you!" And other such expressions. It is frustration, tired, and or hungry with my son. 4 years old seems to be one of those transitions in development. Still very much a baby/toddler but becoming a "big kid" too. Both of my kids wanted to hold on to being babies and at the same time wanted to be big kids.
Take what your daughter is saying seriously but not to heart. She loves her mommy but maybe she needs something different from mommy now than when she did even 2 weeks ago, 2 months ago, etc. Roleplaying would be a good way to find out what she needs or help her figure out what she needs. As for wanting to be with daddy and having a strong relationship with him support that. It is an awesome thing for kids to have happy, healthy relationships with both parents. They don't belong to either one of you but to themselves. They will just express it in different ways. Your daughter is confident enough in your love of her to try to tell you she needs something else. It isn't her responsibility to make sure you are self confident but it is yours to help her build her confidence in herself.
As an aside, my daughter used to tell me I was fired when she got frustrate with me. Thank you Donald Trump.
Tammy Curry, Director of Chaos
http://tammycurry.blogspot.com/
http://crazy-homeschool-adventures.blogspot.com/
"If a child is to keep alive his inborn sense of wonder, he needs the companionship of at least one adult who can share it, rediscovering with him the joy, excitement and mystery of the world we live in."
Rachel Carson
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Joyce Fetteroll
On May 22, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Darcel wrote:
Listen So Kids Will Talk. The first chapter is actually about how to
listen :-) Very easy read and practical information.
Rather than reading an adult meaning into her words, see them as
feedback. Something is off and she's trying to let you know that in
the only way she can. Listen :-) Don't take it personally.
negative. Rather than seeing it as a rejection, see it as a very cool
thing that she is bonding with her father. :-)
I don't want to imply that you should give up trying to find a common
ground to connect on, but some personalities mesh better than others.
It could be they "get" each other. That's a GOOD thing :-) Embrace
the things you do have in common but celebrate the fact that she has
someone who has even more in common with her.
If you had two friends and one had the same taste in movies and
clothes and rhythm to their life as you do, and the other was a fun
person for a weekly cup of coffee, how would you feel if the coffee
friend got jealous of your other friend and started getting emotional
that you weren't spending as much time with her as with your other
friend. Wouldn't that negativity undermine what connection you did have?
Don't be the grasping coffee friend! You'll drive her away. Embrace
that she will come to you for what you connect on. Embrace that she
has others she can connect to. Anything that fosters more and better
relationships is great :-)
JOyce
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> This is the 3rd time she has said this in two weeks. I asked herTry reading the first chapter of How To Talk So Kids Will Listen and
> why and she said it was because i was mean. Then she told me that
> she was the new nice mommy.
Listen So Kids Will Talk. The first chapter is actually about how to
listen :-) Very easy read and practical information.
Rather than reading an adult meaning into her words, see them as
feedback. Something is off and she's trying to let you know that in
the only way she can. Listen :-) Don't take it personally.
> Sometimes it feels like Nakiah belongs to my husband and AvaYou'll help both of you to see the positive in that rather than the
> belongs to me. I don't like that at all. My husband blows me off
> and says I'm being silly.
>
negative. Rather than seeing it as a rejection, see it as a very cool
thing that she is bonding with her father. :-)
I don't want to imply that you should give up trying to find a common
ground to connect on, but some personalities mesh better than others.
It could be they "get" each other. That's a GOOD thing :-) Embrace
the things you do have in common but celebrate the fact that she has
someone who has even more in common with her.
If you had two friends and one had the same taste in movies and
clothes and rhythm to their life as you do, and the other was a fun
person for a weekly cup of coffee, how would you feel if the coffee
friend got jealous of your other friend and started getting emotional
that you weren't spending as much time with her as with your other
friend. Wouldn't that negativity undermine what connection you did have?
Don't be the grasping coffee friend! You'll drive her away. Embrace
that she will come to you for what you connect on. Embrace that she
has others she can connect to. Anything that fosters more and better
relationships is great :-)
JOyce
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Su Penn
On May 23, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Tammy Curry wrote:
it.
Su
> Take what your daughter is saying seriously but not to heart.This is so beautifully put I just wanted to pull it out and highlight
it.
> As an aside, my daughter used to tell me I was fired when she gotLove it!
> frustrate with me. Thank you Donald Trump.
Su
Darcel
Thank you all for you responses. I never thought of it as making her responsible for my emotional well being. I don't want to put that responsibility on her at all.
When she told me she didn't want to go to sleep with me, I called my husband back and they talked for a few minutes.
I did tell her she didn't have to go to sleep with me and we sat and read books and watched TV. She ended up laying across my lap and falling sleep. I carried her upstairs and when my husband came home he went upstairs to kiss the girls.
I will try the role playing with her and really listen to what it is she's telling me.
After I typed my initial message to the group I went to Sandra's site and read about changing the next interaction instead of trying to change everything all at once. That I can do. After this I am going to read the link on breathing :)
They have the same daddy/daughter relationship that I have with my father. I think thats great!
They definitely get each other in a way that I don't get her.
I know my problem is I see my mom and myself when I see the relationship I have with Nakiah and it scares me. I've said before I didn't have the best role model in my mom.
She did everything she could to break my spirit and destroy my relationship with my dad.
We are not on speaking terms right now. I don't want that to happen with us.
I'm trying really hard not to focus on not being like my mom and really focus on being with my girls and enjoying them.
Sometimes I honestly feel very fragile and I know I'm still working through my childhood hurts and scars. I don't want to project that on to my kids.
Sometimes I do feel immature and needy and I wonder what in the world have I gotten myself into and what I am going to do!
I want to be the mother I never had while staying true to myself. I want to help them through transitions and their soft place to fall. I'm having some trouble getting there.
Darcel
When she told me she didn't want to go to sleep with me, I called my husband back and they talked for a few minutes.
I did tell her she didn't have to go to sleep with me and we sat and read books and watched TV. She ended up laying across my lap and falling sleep. I carried her upstairs and when my husband came home he went upstairs to kiss the girls.
I will try the role playing with her and really listen to what it is she's telling me.
After I typed my initial message to the group I went to Sandra's site and read about changing the next interaction instead of trying to change everything all at once. That I can do. After this I am going to read the link on breathing :)
They have the same daddy/daughter relationship that I have with my father. I think thats great!
They definitely get each other in a way that I don't get her.
I know my problem is I see my mom and myself when I see the relationship I have with Nakiah and it scares me. I've said before I didn't have the best role model in my mom.
She did everything she could to break my spirit and destroy my relationship with my dad.
We are not on speaking terms right now. I don't want that to happen with us.
I'm trying really hard not to focus on not being like my mom and really focus on being with my girls and enjoying them.
Sometimes I honestly feel very fragile and I know I'm still working through my childhood hurts and scars. I don't want to project that on to my kids.
Sometimes I do feel immature and needy and I wonder what in the world have I gotten myself into and what I am going to do!
I want to be the mother I never had while staying true to myself. I want to help them through transitions and their soft place to fall. I'm having some trouble getting there.
Darcel
Sandra Dodd
-=-I want to be the mother I never had while staying true to myself.-=-
Is there something about "staying true to yourself" that would involve
not being a good mother? Did you just write that without really
thinking? Sometimes people use phrases or idioms without thought.
Doing ANYthing without thought is a danger to your mental (and
sometimes physical) health and safety.
If what you want is to be the mother you didn't have, then every
single thing you do in that vein should be healing for you,
strenghtening for your confidence and maturity, and also wonderful for
your family.
http://sandradodd.com/phrases
Sandra
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Is there something about "staying true to yourself" that would involve
not being a good mother? Did you just write that without really
thinking? Sometimes people use phrases or idioms without thought.
Doing ANYthing without thought is a danger to your mental (and
sometimes physical) health and safety.
If what you want is to be the mother you didn't have, then every
single thing you do in that vein should be healing for you,
strenghtening for your confidence and maturity, and also wonderful for
your family.
http://sandradodd.com/phrases
Sandra
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