Nanci Kuykendall

My sister in law called me today (my brother's wife)
and asked me to help her convince her dad to take her
little brother Charlie out of school. He is 13 and in
eigth grade and is a wiz at computer programming and
games, and a bookworm. He is failing every class in
school, had been labeled (and medicated) as ADHD for
many years, although he is not medicated now. He has
terrible people skills and is sobbing and screaming in
frustration with school.

Charlie says it's not fair that he has to take all
this stuff that has nothing to do with what he wants
to do with his life, computer programming. His father
is a single dad, and Charlie's mother died of cancer
about 2 years ago. His father is very traditional and
"old school." Please I need your advice to help me
help this kid! Anyone and everyone with ideas to get
this kid out of school let me know!

Nanci K.

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Stacey Valnes

Hi. So I am having a little freak out with the unschooling and whether my
kids will ever learn the basics in math, reading, and writing. Learned
yesterday my wife is pregnant with #5. The kids were to be with their
grandparents this past weekend for 3 days, giving us some alone time, only
to be returned home the very next day, within 24 hours. I'm angry but
that's another issue I know how to deal with spiritualality. The same
grandpa was telling our kids in these 24 hours they should be in school.
More anger. He's one of the most controlling people I know. 2 of his 3
kids are highly dysfunctional (3 kids with 3 different woman)(not wife).
These events in the past 24 hours made me feel vulnerable last night. I'm
cool this morning. Can I support 5 kids - yes I can. Is unschooling the
right thing - hell yes it is. Just need some a little support.



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plaidpanties666@...

This morning I heard something on the radio about college remedial programs. Across the US, half of all high-school graduates who apply to college need some kind of remediation. That seems bonkers - a massive indictment of public education.

My daughter is 12 and writes as well as many adults. No-one ever taught her that. She writes a lot and enjoys it. She's very aware of turns of phrase and pacing what makes for a good story. She doesn't know her multiplication tables, though, and sometimes says she's bad a math. I'm not sure where she picked up that idea - probably from other kids - but even if she continues to think so, she won't be much different from lots and lots of kids who went through public school with nightly math homework.

School doesn't guarantee what kids will learn or know when they reach 18 - much less at 30.


>>> The same
grandpa was telling our kids in these 24 hours they should be in school.<<<

Do your kids like him? Do they enjoy staying with him? If not, don't send them to stay with him. If they want contact, make it neutral territory - parks and family restaurants, zoos and Chuck-E-Cheese.

If they ask why grandpa thinks they should be in school, you could tell them that he's old - when he was a kid, there was no internet, hardly any tv even. Depending on how old he is, books might have been still mostly hardcover - expensive luxuries. There weren't as many good ways to learn back then.

---Meredith

robin.bentley@...

First, breathe.

Then, breathe. :-)

How old are your kids? Maybe their grandfather's expectations of them is unrealistic.

Robin B.

Stacey Valnes

I meditated. Kids are almost 3, 5, almost 8, and 10.

Thanks for the feedback.



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First, breathe.

Then, breathe. :-)

How old are your kids? Maybe their grandfather's expectations of them is unrealistic.

Robin B.





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Sandra Dodd

-=-School doesn't guarantee what kids will learn or know when they reach 18 - much less at 30.-=-

School creates failures.  Guarantees failures.  For every A there's an F.  Half the children in school are below average.  Literally.  The "C" that some kids (in American grading system) get is *called* average, but it's below average.  The "average" falls between the B's and the C's.

School guarantees to start telling children when they're very young that they're behind, and that if they study hard they can catch up, but it's not true.  There is planned, scheduled, pre-determined failure.  Lots of it.

There are not good reasons to discuss school here.  I'm going to leave this steaming pile of school poo as a warning, for a while, not to think about the alleged glory of school.

Few people realize what a competition school is, and that it is a lie that "if you work hard you can get an A."  10 to 15% MIGHT get A's.  

Those problems don't come up with unschooling.  Can't.  

Sandra

Stacey Valnes

You rock. I love having our children home. I was the biggest failure in
school there ever was and now live a very successful life with everything I
ever wanted, especially my children home, far away from school. Hated
school. Hated every aspect. Drank, drugs, homelessness, jails, you name
it, to drown out school's pressures and my parents voices. Grateful for all
of it because it makes enjoying the good in my life so easy. Thanks for the
unschooling. Keep rocking!



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-=-School doesn't guarantee what kids will learn or know when they reach 18
- much less at 30.-=-



School creates failures. Guarantees failures. For every A there's an F.
Half the children in school are below average. Literally. The "C" that
some kids (in American grading system) get is *called* average, but it's
below average. The "average" falls between the B's and the C's.



School guarantees to start telling children when they're very young that
they're behind, and that if they study hard they can catch up, but it's not
true. There is planned, scheduled, pre-determined failure. Lots of it.



There are not good reasons to discuss school here. I'm going to leave this
steaming pile of school poo as a warning, for a while, not to think about
the alleged glory of school.



Few people realize what a competition school is, and that it is a lie that
"if you work hard you can get an A." 10 to 15% MIGHT get A's.



Those problems don't come up with unschooling. Can't.



Sandra





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robin.bentley@...

~ I am having a little freak out with the unschooling and whether my kids will ever learn the basics in math, reading, and writing. ~

This might help.

http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/academics/alltheyneedtoknow.html

~ Drank, drugs, homelessness, jails, you name it, to drown out school's pressures and my parents voices. Grateful for all of it because it makes enjoying the good in my life so easy. ~

Here's a wonderful thing about unschooling. Your kids won't need to be grateful they went through hell to appreciate the good stuff. Unschooling *is* the good stuff! They'll have it from the get-go, especially if you don't freak out about their learning. :-)

I like these pages (and links), because they address all kinds of parents' fears (and how parents got over them).

http://sandradodd.com/gettingit
http://sandradodd.com/fears

 

Robin B.