Is it necessary to correct?
k
I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that it
doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in order
for learning to take place? I don't think it does.
What do you think?
~Katherine
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doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in order
for learning to take place? I don't think it does.
What do you think?
~Katherine
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Joanna Murphy
--- In [email protected], k <katherand@...> wrote:
And when they were younger, and very excited about a thought they'd come up with, I'd just leave it alone if it wasn't spot-on, and knew that time and experience would "fix" the misinterpretation. I would focus on sharing their enthusiasm. And sometimes after hearing them I could help them shape their idea if it seemed like they were receptive to that.
I have, however, been in the company of many parents who thought that their five year olds needed to get every factoid right and that that was what was important. It's not pretty. It's not pretty to see the light of discovery fade from a child's eyes.
Joanna
>I don't think this is a yes or no answer. I have both provided more info (correction) and I have not said anything--it has depended on the situation. I think the more important consideration is whether more info would add anything to my child's world. Sometimes yes, but sometimes no if the actual fact isn't the important thing to them.
> I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that it
> doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in order
> for learning to take place? I don't think it does.
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> What do you think?
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And when they were younger, and very excited about a thought they'd come up with, I'd just leave it alone if it wasn't spot-on, and knew that time and experience would "fix" the misinterpretation. I would focus on sharing their enthusiasm. And sometimes after hearing them I could help them shape their idea if it seemed like they were receptive to that.
I have, however, been in the company of many parents who thought that their five year olds needed to get every factoid right and that that was what was important. It's not pretty. It's not pretty to see the light of discovery fade from a child's eyes.
Joanna
Joyce Fetteroll
On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:10 PM, k wrote:
the right answer. But if they'll never encounter it again, does it
matter? ;-)
Most all knowledge is imperfect. It gets refined as we go along
because we keep encountering it in different contexts.
If someone has an urge to correct, it might help to assume you might
be mistaken. Then you'll mentally put yourself in a place of more
equal footing.
Joyce
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> I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that itIf they'll never encounter it again, then you're their only source of
> doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in
> order
> for learning to take place? I don't think it does.
the right answer. But if they'll never encounter it again, does it
matter? ;-)
Most all knowledge is imperfect. It gets refined as we go along
because we keep encountering it in different contexts.
If someone has an urge to correct, it might help to assume you might
be mistaken. Then you'll mentally put yourself in a place of more
equal footing.
Joyce
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k
>>>> If someone has an urge to correct, it might help to assume you mightbe mistaken. Then you'll mentally put yourself in a place of more
equal footing. <<<<
Ah. I wonder aloud alot. Which worries me sometimes that it will seem like
I never know what I'm talking about. I'm much better now when people
correct me than when I was a kid. I figure even if what someone says isn't
right, it's more ideas than I had before. As a kid though... I agree it's
better not to quash a child's wondering aloud or fact finding. Because the
danger is they might believe that more statements are facts than really
are.
It's funny or maybe only to be expected that Karl seldom asks questions in a
question format. He puts things out there to test them and at times I
wonder if he wants me to be part of that or not. Most of the time, I think
not. When I do that, I usually do want to know what others think. Which
explains why I like lists and forums. It helps that I don't take everything
as fact though. ;) I hope others do the same because that's the truth.
Don't believe everything you hear, read or think.
~Katherine
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Verna
--- In [email protected], k <katherand@...> wrote:
>I was wondering something similiar about reading. My 7 year old is wanting to read. We sit and read together sometimes and while reading he makes many mistakes since he is just beginning. I mostly dont say anything about them unless they change the meaning of a passage, but then wonder if I should just say nothing unless he asks.
> I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that it
> doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in order
> for learning to take place? I don't think it does.
>
> What do you think?
>
> ~Katherine
Joyce Fetteroll
On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Verna wrote:
And if he says yes, check periodically to make sure it's not getting
annoying if he's not the type to speak up.
Joyce
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> We sit and read together sometimes and while reading he makes manyAsk him!
> mistakes since he is just beginning. I mostly dont say anything
> about them unless they change the meaning of a passage, but then
> wonder if I should just say nothing unless he asks.
And if he says yes, check periodically to make sure it's not getting
annoying if he's not the type to speak up.
Joyce
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Pam Sorooshian
On 3/18/2009 4:50 AM, k wrote:
doing - going through the things it could be, playing around a little to
see what would happen if I tried different things. That's how you figure
it out and fix it. I was wondering out loud for HIS benefit, because he
seemed interested, so I was saying aloud the possible problems as I was
eliminating them. But he watched me for a while and then I heard him in
the kitchen telling his mom, "She doesn't know what she's doing; she's
just guessing and trying things."
-pam
> Ah. I wonder aloud alot. Which worries me sometimes that it will seem likeI was fixing my nephew's computer for him. I TOTALLY knew what I was
> I never know what I'm talking about.
doing - going through the things it could be, playing around a little to
see what would happen if I tried different things. That's how you figure
it out and fix it. I was wondering out loud for HIS benefit, because he
seemed interested, so I was saying aloud the possible problems as I was
eliminating them. But he watched me for a while and then I heard him in
the kitchen telling his mom, "She doesn't know what she's doing; she's
just guessing and trying things."
-pam
k
>>>> I was fixing my nephew's computer for him. I TOTALLY knew what I wasdoing - going through the things it could be, playing around a little to
see what would happen if I tried different things. That's how you figure
it out and fix it. I was wondering out loud for HIS benefit, because he
seemed interested, so I was saying aloud the possible problems as I was
eliminating them. But he watched me for a while and then I heard him in
the kitchen telling his mom, "She doesn't know what she's doing; she's
just guessing and trying things." <<<<
LOL. I'm not *trying* to wonder aloud. I just do. But yeah. That's
the general opinion of that sorta thing.
That's called troubleshooting. And it's a highly prized skill.
Something we wouldn't want to dis.
So as to our children making untrue statements, it's the same thing.
The same exact skill.
My question sometimes is am I shortcutting his troubleshooting
process. Sometimes I think I might be but most times I don't think
so.
~Katherine
Sandra Dodd
-=-I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that it
doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in
order
for learning to take place? I don't think it does.-=-
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Principles aren't about what's "necessary," though.
The best answer to most questions is "it depends."
I'm sure children can learn even when their parents don't know enough
to correct their factoids. And children whose parents correct their
factoids unmercifully might give up trying to learn around their
parents.
With my kids, it depends how leisurely the moment is, what mood the
kid's in, whether it seems it could cause problems that they don't
know the thing... It depends.
Sandra
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doesn't mention if correction of a child's factoids is necessary in
order
for learning to take place? I don't think it does.-=-
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Principles aren't about what's "necessary," though.
The best answer to most questions is "it depends."
I'm sure children can learn even when their parents don't know enough
to correct their factoids. And children whose parents correct their
factoids unmercifully might give up trying to learn around their
parents.
With my kids, it depends how leisurely the moment is, what mood the
kid's in, whether it seems it could cause problems that they don't
know the thing... It depends.
Sandra
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k
>>>> whether it seems it could cause problems that they don'tknow the thing.. <<<<
An example of that ... the other day Karl said something about wrestlers and
he was twisting his own head around, I think wondering how far is too far or
if there even is a "too far." I said owls are made to be able to turn their
heads all the way around but not humans, that it can actually kill a human.
And since he was twisting his own head around with his hands, I added not to
let someone else do that to him or do it to someone else because you can
feel for yourself how far is too far but not for someone else.
I wouldn't want to leave that for him to discover on his own even though I
think he already had a pretty good inkling.
~Katherine
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Kandace M. Wright
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
it for them. I have the Google-fu. It gets us into all sorts of
topics because they usually want to hang around to the answer with me.
Sometimes they even take the laptop from me to take charge.
Kandace
Mom to Jackie - 12, Jacob 10, Jessica 7, James 3 and Jeremiah 10 months
Attachment Parenting International of Merrimack Valley Co-Leader
Artist - http://www.kandacewright.com
> -=-I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that itYeah, I go with this. It depends. If I don't know, I offer to google
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it for them. I have the Google-fu. It gets us into all sorts of
topics because they usually want to hang around to the answer with me.
Sometimes they even take the laptop from me to take charge.
Kandace
Mom to Jackie - 12, Jacob 10, Jessica 7, James 3 and Jeremiah 10 months
Attachment Parenting International of Merrimack Valley Co-Leader
Artist - http://www.kandacewright.com
John and Amanda Slater
Sometimes it can be good to follow their thoughts without correcting.
The other day Samuel asked me at least 3 times what zero plus zero is. The first time I just answered, the second time I turned it into a word problem, and the third time I asked why he was asking. His thinking was that 101 (his favorite number) is a big number, since it has a zero in it, zero must have a value.
I still need to show him how place value works since we were in the car at the time.
Anyway, my point is sometimes they have a good idea, but the wrong conclusion. It can be good to investigate further to find out how they got there.
Amanda
Elijah 7, Samuel 6
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The other day Samuel asked me at least 3 times what zero plus zero is. The first time I just answered, the second time I turned it into a word problem, and the third time I asked why he was asking. His thinking was that 101 (his favorite number) is a big number, since it has a zero in it, zero must have a value.
I still need to show him how place value works since we were in the car at the time.
Anyway, my point is sometimes they have a good idea, but the wrong conclusion. It can be good to investigate further to find out how they got there.
Amanda
Elijah 7, Samuel 6
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Anne Mills
Could you give some examples, Sandra, when you say depending on the child's mood ?
Lately I have noticed three possible dilemmas for me and wondered what to answer ti genuine questions about :
- BirthMy son -He is 5 1/2- was asking if he was coming from his father's belly as well as mine or before mine. His vision and his enthousiasm made me think. I told him as truthfully as I could. In a way he is coming from his father 's and his question amazed me quite a bit.
Otherwise,- William dreams to become a pilot that travels through space and sea. I don't correct him about his fictions. Should I ? Being a pilot is a dream. Reality vs dream, imagination, how do you encourage a happy child to keep on dreaming ?
- he asks me swimming technics so i delivered gladly but that did not really help him :-)
I really wish to be inspired to make a good point when needed only.
Anne
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Lately I have noticed three possible dilemmas for me and wondered what to answer ti genuine questions about :
- BirthMy son -He is 5 1/2- was asking if he was coming from his father's belly as well as mine or before mine. His vision and his enthousiasm made me think. I told him as truthfully as I could. In a way he is coming from his father 's and his question amazed me quite a bit.
Otherwise,- William dreams to become a pilot that travels through space and sea. I don't correct him about his fictions. Should I ? Being a pilot is a dream. Reality vs dream, imagination, how do you encourage a happy child to keep on dreaming ?
- he asks me swimming technics so i delivered gladly but that did not really help him :-)
I really wish to be inspired to make a good point when needed only.
Anne
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Being a pilot is a dream that could become a reality. It did for me. When i drove mini school buses up and down the parkways of Long Island i visualised flight maneuvers. 45 degree steep power turns,power on/off stalls,spins. I started flying before i could drive but had to postpone getting my license until my 20's. I love landing on little town grass strips,tying down and going for lunch.--- In [email protected], Anne Mills <anne-mills@...> wrote:
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Sandra Dodd
-=-Could you give some examples, Sandra, when you say depending on the
child's mood ?-=-
I'll give examples not about mothers and children, and you can see it
in a clearer light, maybe.
When my husband came home yesterday, I needed some groceries. I had
food cooking and couldn't leave. The store is very near, quick
walking distance. Usually when Keith gets home, his routine is to
check the mail and change his clothes. I greeted him and thought...
Holly was on her way home, more or less, somewhere, and I could ask
her. But the list was here, and I wasn't sure when Holly would call
me back. Keith wasn't limping (his back's been hurting) and he
walked like he was happy, so I asked him if he could go. If he had
said no, I wouldn't have whined or pressed. I'd've probably called
Holly again, or turned off the stove and gone.
Keith's mom (my mother in law) had her arm amputated. She's 90 or
so. She has tumor on the bones and it just wasn't going to heal or
accept a pin or plate. Kirby (my oldest, 22) was moving from his
apartment to a house that week, and then going to a conference. He
was really happy to hang out with Brett (Holly's boyfriend, and one of
Kirby's best friends for years), and Rosie Sorooshian, and Holly
(Holly was third no matter which order the other two were in), and so
I didn't tell him about his grandmother. I considered telling him on
the way to the airport, but the mood was light and I know he didn't
take his uncle's death in 2007 very well. I didn't want him to think
about it all the way to Austin, by himself. I told him by phone a few
days later, when he was home and recovered and in a calm mood. We
talked about it and he talked to his dad.
I predicted what he would need in terms of processing. I didn't want
to take any time or energy or focus out of the conference and his
visit with friends. I didn't want to make him afraid or unhappy or
unsettled.
My friend Bill (not his real name) was here talking about AA meetings
a week ago. I gave him a copy of Daily Affirmations, because half his
problems are about parents, and stepparents, and alcohol, drugs,
irresponsibility. Half his problem is his own drinking, and he had
been sober a week or ten days or something. He got drunk Saturday
night (not here, but where Marty was in another town). Usually we
talk every few days. I know he had planned to come by here before he
went on through Albuquerque to his own home elsewhere. It's
Thursday. It's been a week since we talked. Usually we talk more. I
could call him but he will take it as a "visitation," as a checking
in, like a mom calling a bad kid or something. So I'm going to wait
until he figures out how he wants to discuss it, if he wants to
discuss it. I'm not mad at him. I just don't want to impose on what
is probably an unsettled and embarrassing set of thoughts for him. By
the time I talk to him he will have had a counselling session or two,
talked with his wife, maybe gone to more AA meetings or thought about
why he doesn't want to, and I won't press him to share what he doesn't
want to share.
Same with my kids when they were young (as one of those was my child,
though he's a man living in another state). Same with any
considerations of whether it's a good time to say more or to be quiet.
-=Otherwise,- William dreams to become a pilot that travels through
space and sea. I don't correct him about his fictions. Should I ?
Being a pilot is a dream. Reality vs dream, imagination, how do you
encourage a happy child to keep on dreaming ?-=-
He dreams at night, you mean? Or he plans and dreams of the future?
If he's telling you his dreams, it's a dream. Dreams have their own
reality. If I honestly, truly dreamed my cat could fly, that's not a
fiction. It's the truth of what I dreamed.
If by dream you mean what he might want to do someday, how is that not
reality? Real people pilot those space shuttles and submarines. Real
pilots.
-=- I really wish to be inspired to make a good point when needed
only. -=-
"Good depends" and "needed" depends. <g>
Sandra
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child's mood ?-=-
I'll give examples not about mothers and children, and you can see it
in a clearer light, maybe.
When my husband came home yesterday, I needed some groceries. I had
food cooking and couldn't leave. The store is very near, quick
walking distance. Usually when Keith gets home, his routine is to
check the mail and change his clothes. I greeted him and thought...
Holly was on her way home, more or less, somewhere, and I could ask
her. But the list was here, and I wasn't sure when Holly would call
me back. Keith wasn't limping (his back's been hurting) and he
walked like he was happy, so I asked him if he could go. If he had
said no, I wouldn't have whined or pressed. I'd've probably called
Holly again, or turned off the stove and gone.
Keith's mom (my mother in law) had her arm amputated. She's 90 or
so. She has tumor on the bones and it just wasn't going to heal or
accept a pin or plate. Kirby (my oldest, 22) was moving from his
apartment to a house that week, and then going to a conference. He
was really happy to hang out with Brett (Holly's boyfriend, and one of
Kirby's best friends for years), and Rosie Sorooshian, and Holly
(Holly was third no matter which order the other two were in), and so
I didn't tell him about his grandmother. I considered telling him on
the way to the airport, but the mood was light and I know he didn't
take his uncle's death in 2007 very well. I didn't want him to think
about it all the way to Austin, by himself. I told him by phone a few
days later, when he was home and recovered and in a calm mood. We
talked about it and he talked to his dad.
I predicted what he would need in terms of processing. I didn't want
to take any time or energy or focus out of the conference and his
visit with friends. I didn't want to make him afraid or unhappy or
unsettled.
My friend Bill (not his real name) was here talking about AA meetings
a week ago. I gave him a copy of Daily Affirmations, because half his
problems are about parents, and stepparents, and alcohol, drugs,
irresponsibility. Half his problem is his own drinking, and he had
been sober a week or ten days or something. He got drunk Saturday
night (not here, but where Marty was in another town). Usually we
talk every few days. I know he had planned to come by here before he
went on through Albuquerque to his own home elsewhere. It's
Thursday. It's been a week since we talked. Usually we talk more. I
could call him but he will take it as a "visitation," as a checking
in, like a mom calling a bad kid or something. So I'm going to wait
until he figures out how he wants to discuss it, if he wants to
discuss it. I'm not mad at him. I just don't want to impose on what
is probably an unsettled and embarrassing set of thoughts for him. By
the time I talk to him he will have had a counselling session or two,
talked with his wife, maybe gone to more AA meetings or thought about
why he doesn't want to, and I won't press him to share what he doesn't
want to share.
Same with my kids when they were young (as one of those was my child,
though he's a man living in another state). Same with any
considerations of whether it's a good time to say more or to be quiet.
-=Otherwise,- William dreams to become a pilot that travels through
space and sea. I don't correct him about his fictions. Should I ?
Being a pilot is a dream. Reality vs dream, imagination, how do you
encourage a happy child to keep on dreaming ?-=-
He dreams at night, you mean? Or he plans and dreams of the future?
If he's telling you his dreams, it's a dream. Dreams have their own
reality. If I honestly, truly dreamed my cat could fly, that's not a
fiction. It's the truth of what I dreamed.
If by dream you mean what he might want to do someday, how is that not
reality? Real people pilot those space shuttles and submarines. Real
pilots.
-=- I really wish to be inspired to make a good point when needed
only. -=-
"Good depends" and "needed" depends. <g>
Sandra
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pebsflower
---I, too, had dreams as a child and many of them have come true for me. Many have changed over time and I look forward now to many new adventures or dreams per say! I always love to try new things ....some times I enjoy them and learn thjem right away and others well...huh...not so good.
Pebs
In [email protected], "troubadour4me" <ronniegreek@...> wrote:
Pebs
In [email protected], "troubadour4me" <ronniegreek@...> wrote:
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> > Lately I have noticed three possible dilemmas for me and wondered what to answer ti genuine questions about :
> > - BirthMy son -He is 5 1/2- was asking if he was coming from his father's belly as well as mine or before mine. His vision and his enthousiasm made me think. I told him as truthfully as I could. In a way he is coming from his father 's and his question amazed me quite a bit.
> > Otherwise,- William dreams to become a pilot that travels through space and sea. I don't correct him about his fictions. Should I ? Being a pilot is a dream. Reality vs dream, imagination, how do you encourage a happy child to keep on dreaming ?
> > - he asks me swimming technics so i delivered gladly but that did not really help him :-)
> > I really wish to be inspired to make a good point when needed only.
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> > > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:06:33 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Is it necessary to correct?
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> > > -=-I was reading on unschooling principles and I had the thought that it
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> > > Principles aren't about what's "necessary," though.
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> > > The best answer to most questions is "it depends."
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> > > I'm sure children can learn even when their parents don't know enough
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> > > With my kids, it depends how leisurely the moment is, what mood the
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> > > kid's in, whether it seems it could cause problems that they don't
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