Schuyler

What about something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Munchkin-Three-Stay-Suction-3-Pack/dp/B000JOT2RO/ref=pd_sim_ba_6 or like this: http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Meal-Solutions-Go-Pack/dp/B00025X2YO/ref=sr_1_95?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1235834060&sr=1-95 (http://tinyurl.com/ck2mxa) Oh, this one's better: http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Serving-Center-Set-Raspberry-Red/dp/B0006IC0Z4/ref=pd_sbs_hg_1 or this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Prodyne-APPETIZERS-ICE-Lids-AB-5-L/dp/B000UMK9QS/ref=pd_sbs_hg_3

A few possibities.

Schuyler




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From: k <katherand@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 28 February, 2009 3:05:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: food again

>>>> I still haven't figured out a plate/platter/container that's kid accessible
but not dog accessible. <<<<

Do you have a tupperware veggies & dip container with a lid?

~Katherine




On 2/28/09, emiLy Q. <emilyjo@...> wrote:
> We say "done for now" and the plate gets put in the pantry because food left
> out gets eaten by our pets.
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> but not dog accessible.
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emiLy Q.

My dogs will eventually chew up plastic stuff. The tupperware thing looks
great, if the lid is easy enough to get off without spilling stuff inside
(for young kids). But one day we'll leave it out and leave the house, or
just go in the basement and my dogs will chew it up to get at whatever's
inside -- including celery and stupid not yummy for dogs food like that. :)

A glass cake stand would be good, except the dome would be too heavy and
unwieldy for a young kid. And I have really stupid ceramic tile floors that
are death to lots of glass stuff too. We moved in about 1.5 years ago and
have broken SO many dishes it's not even funny.

I've figured out to get the glass Pyrex dishes with plastic lids because I
can order them separately, so when we break a dish or the dogs get the lids,
I can order them individually -- annoying, but better than having lots of
mismatched food storage stuff. Been there, done that. :) Plus I like the
glass in that situation because I often microwave them and prefer to
microwave in glass rather than plastic. My kids can NOT easily get the lids
off these containers though, so they don't work either.

We are fine -- we have found workarounds that involves the kids eating in
the kitchen more often than not. They can get water for themselves, and can
open the fridge/freezer too. At least that limits what the dogs get to what
the kids leave after eating and I don't see quickly enough to put away. If
my kids want to take food elsewhere, I try to close them in a room or close
the dogs in another room.

We have really nice, friendly, sometimes rambunctious dogs that we clicker
trained (sort of...) and were a HUGE part of what brought me towards AP and
unschooling! I owe those dogs a lot, and my kids owe them even more because
my husband and I practiced on them before we ever had kids! :) What I'd
REALLY like is a less open house with a kitchen I could close off completely
so our pets could be kept out of there altogether. And a different floor...
Maybe someday! At least the way it is now we can sit at a counter in the
kitchen and look straight at our big TV. :)

-emiLy, mom to Delia (5) & Henry (1.5)
The EC Store
http://www.TheECstore.com


On 2/28/09 9:41 AM, "k" <katherand@...> wrote:

>>>>> What about something like this:
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Munchkin-Three-Stay-Suction-3-Pack/dp/B000JOT2RO/ref
>>>>> =pd_sim_ba_6 or like this:
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Meal-Solutions-Go-Pack/dp/B00025X2YO/ref=
>>>>> sr_1_95?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1235834060&sr=1-95
>>>>> (http://tinyurl.com/ck2mxa) Oh, this one's better:
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tupperware-Serving-Center-Set-Raspberry-Red/dp/B0006
>>>>> IC0Z4/ref=pd_sbs_hg_1 or this one:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Prodyne-APPETIZERS-ICE-Lids-AB-5-L/dp/B000UMK9QS/ref=pd_
> sbs_hg_3
> <<<<
>
> And.... A cake stand or anything with a dome could work.
>

eaglefalconlark

At first I was thinking, well, we don't leave food out either (we
don't have dogs) but in reality we do, it just doesn't look like an
intentional "put out a platter-full of choices to work from all day".
For instance, I'll cut up an apple and the kids don't have to sit
there to specifically to eat the apple and then decide when they are
done and put it away. It's occurred to me after reading this thread
that because they can take it over a period of time based on their
appetite -- graze -- it's supporting their sense of appetite and what
they really need.

I don't know if these ideas have been mentioned yet: first, you said
something about your dogs eating plastic. There are all-glass storage
containers you can buy, made by anchor hocking. I'm thinking the
little ones (which are about 4 1/2 inches square) would be easy enough
for little hands to handle the lids.
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/glass-storage-dishes-small They're
expensive but well made (so they last,) I've broken glassware of all
kinds (I wash dishes by hand, so they tend to clank around against
each other and the porcelain sink while soaking, slip out of my hands
when soaped up, etc.) but not these. (Sorry about those tile floors --
we used to have them, what a pain. What about putting a washable rug
in the eating area?)

Second, what about just leaving food in a cupboard? Unless you
refrigerate everything, it wouldn't be any different than, say, buying
a package of cookies and putting them in the cabinet. I suppose a
clever dog could figure out how to open the door of certain types of
cabinets... But if you put magnetic closures on maybe the resistance
would be enough to prevent that.

Linda

Sandra Dodd

-=- "put out a platter-full of choices to work from all day".=-

Is this a quote from someone? I've had so much e-mail lately I
haven't been reading it all in order.
If someone wrote that, I missed it.

"All day" is a long time to leave some kinds of foods out, in some
kinds of climates. In New Mexico, bread can't be left out or it dries
up. In very humid places, crackers or chips can't be left out because
they'll get stale. (And in England crackers and chips are whole
different things, so I've failed to make an international statement.
And I don't know what might be left out in Australia. Vegemite on a
saltine? I guess it depends what part of Australia, how long that can
sit. <g>) I usually have a bowl of nuts out and refill it, but a
monkey platter is not going to be out for over an hour or so. If
they're through eating from it, I'll put the leftovers in a plastic
container in the fridge, or give it to the dog, if it's something
she'd want.

-=- I suppose a
clever dog could figure out how to open the door of certain types of
cabinets... But if you put magnetic closures on maybe the resistance
would be enough to prevent that. -=-

If dogs are not only getting food off tables and counters, and out of
the hands of young children, but they're going to go into the cabinets
too, those dogs are not being communicated with sufficiently and the
children aren't being protected very well, in my opinion.

Sandra

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eaglefalconlark

--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
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> -=- "put out a platter-full of choices to work from all day".=-
>
> Is this a quote from someone? I've had so much e-mail lately I
> haven't been reading it all in order.
> If someone wrote that, I missed it.

No it's not, I was referring to my own momentary definition of
"grazing" that had me thinking "we don't do that". I *have* read about
it in other discussions and I suppose it just stuck in my head, this
idea of fixing a platter of all kinds of small foods and just leaving
it out for some undefined period of time.

>>>"All day" is a long time to leave some kinds of foods out, in some
kinds of climates. In New Mexico, bread can't be left out or it dries
up. In very humid places, crackers or chips can't be left out because
they'll get stale.<<<

We live in the pacific northwest. Some things that could work here:
blueberries, strawberries, peach slices, broccoli florets, carrots,
peas, corn, cookies, sweet breads, pasta with ghee and salt and
pepper, nuts, chocolate chips...

I have safety issues with leaving food out, which I think are not
always entirely rational. One day my father-in-law came over and
picked a fried egg out of a frying pan that had been sitting in my
kitchen for probably several hours, I just hadn't gotten around to
cleaning up, and popped it right in his mouth. I was horrified. On the
other hand I regularly will make a batch of cookies and leave them in
the cupboard overnight and think nothing of it.

Linda

Verna

A kind of variation on the monkey platter theme is something we do in
the summer at the park or pool. I throw a bag of frozen fruit in our
cooler to help keep thing cold and bring it out when it seems like a
good time. It can be kind of messy but the kids love eating the cold,
slighty thawed fruit. I have brought cups before to put it in or we
just all reach over and grab from the opened, layed out bag.