Something quite atrocious!
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Geez, wonder off for a little while and everyone goes bonkers!
Super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis??? <G> There's a
little karmic justice in store for someone and I don't think it's going
to be pretty. I sang that damn song all day!
Ok, I'm Deb Lewis, I live in Deer Lodge, Montana and I'll be thirty-nine
in March. Thanks to a strict vegan diet and exercise I look more like
thirty-eight. I'm not afraid of perverts, perverts are afraid of ME.
You would be too if you knew the secret definition of *vegan*.
Young unschooling moms relax! There's whale snot enough for everyone.
You'll get your "atta boys" when you express yourself as eloquently as
Sandra, Joyce, Pam, Pam and Sharon the blasphemer, among others.
Everyone here wants to say YES you're right! but can't if you only want
to argue.
Pam Hartley, now that I know so much about you and where you live, I
have a little something I'm sending you. Don't be alarmed if it's
roughly the size and shape of a Basenji Hound and yodels. No need to
thank me.
Thanks to this list I'll be up all night watching Mary Poppin's trying to
reprogram myself.
Just an aside, in our unlimited TV house, since Monday my son watched
one hour of the State of the Union address Tuesday night and the TV
hasn't been on since. That may be due to his State of Depression over
the State of the Union address, I don't know. But I AM relieved that
John Ashcroft won't have to look at nekked stone hooters anymore.
Deb L, because Lewis takes longer to type.
Super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis??? <G> There's a
little karmic justice in store for someone and I don't think it's going
to be pretty. I sang that damn song all day!
Ok, I'm Deb Lewis, I live in Deer Lodge, Montana and I'll be thirty-nine
in March. Thanks to a strict vegan diet and exercise I look more like
thirty-eight. I'm not afraid of perverts, perverts are afraid of ME.
You would be too if you knew the secret definition of *vegan*.
Young unschooling moms relax! There's whale snot enough for everyone.
You'll get your "atta boys" when you express yourself as eloquently as
Sandra, Joyce, Pam, Pam and Sharon the blasphemer, among others.
Everyone here wants to say YES you're right! but can't if you only want
to argue.
Pam Hartley, now that I know so much about you and where you live, I
have a little something I'm sending you. Don't be alarmed if it's
roughly the size and shape of a Basenji Hound and yodels. No need to
thank me.
Thanks to this list I'll be up all night watching Mary Poppin's trying to
reprogram myself.
Just an aside, in our unlimited TV house, since Monday my son watched
one hour of the State of the Union address Tuesday night and the TV
hasn't been on since. That may be due to his State of Depression over
the State of the Union address, I don't know. But I AM relieved that
John Ashcroft won't have to look at nekked stone hooters anymore.
Deb L, because Lewis takes longer to type.
Bronwen
HA! Deb!
Im cracking up over here!
My son is watching Monty Python's Holy Grail movie- while I am reading about
whale snot and a exercizing vegan youthful 38 year old, I am hearing "You
must bring me a SHUBBERY!"
"..or I will say--NEE!"
"After you bring me the SHRUBBERY- you must cut down the mightiest tree in
the forest -with- a HERRING!"
Bronwen
Im cracking up over here!
My son is watching Monty Python's Holy Grail movie- while I am reading about
whale snot and a exercizing vegan youthful 38 year old, I am hearing "You
must bring me a SHUBBERY!"
"..or I will say--NEE!"
"After you bring me the SHRUBBERY- you must cut down the mightiest tree in
the forest -with- a HERRING!"
Bronwen
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:04:55 -0800 "Bronwen" <felesina@...> writes:
My husband and son get on a Monty Python kick about once a month and
there's nothing can be done about it but RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!
Deb L
> My son is watching Monty Python's Holy Grail movie-<G>
My husband and son get on a Monty Python kick about once a month and
there's nothing can be done about it but RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!
Deb L
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Oh Deb, thank you for what must be my favorite post of the year! Vegans and
whale snot and pervs, Oh my! LOL!
~Mary, 42 and anxious to start handing out those "atta boys" :o)
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HA!! Have they seen this site?
http://www.pythonline.com/home.html
Bronwen
it's merely a flesh wound...
http://www.pythonline.com/home.html
Bronwen
it's merely a flesh wound...
> <G>
> My husband and son get on a Monty Python kick about once a month and
> there's nothing can be done about it but RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!
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Oh dear, you don't know quite enough.
Wally's first wife was a Basenji owner. Let's not go there. <g>
Pam
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From: ddzimlew@...
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Something quite atrocious!
Date: Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 5:43 PM
Pam Hartley, now that I know so much about you and where you live, I
have a little something I'm sending you. Don't be alarmed if it's
roughly the size and shape of a Basenji Hound and yodels. No need to
thank me.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Wally's first wife was a Basenji owner. Let's not go there. <g>
Pam
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From: ddzimlew@...
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Something quite atrocious!
Date: Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 5:43 PM
Pam Hartley, now that I know so much about you and where you live, I
have a little something I'm sending you. Don't be alarmed if it's
roughly the size and shape of a Basenji Hound and yodels. No need to
thank me.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Karen
I'm still wiping the tears from reading the Hobbit out loud for an hour
("He... knocked their king Golfimbul's head clean off with a wooden club. It
sailed a hundred yards through the air and went down a rabbit-hole, and in
this way the battle was won and the game of Golf invented at the same
moment.") and I return to whale snot, fragile mystics, and holy hand
grenades. You's all my kind of people.
All this to say: I absolutely love this decision to let go and let the kids.
Not that long ago, by this time of the evening, I'd have been exhausted from
fighting over baths and bedtime and would have just wanted to crawl onto the
couch. Instead, look at all the keyboarding energy I have left! I'm
rediscovering things *I* like to do; tonight I made homemade pretzels just
because they sounded good, and not to give the kids a lesson on yeast. I
took an online class in Spanish today and didn't even tell them! It feels so
subversive. It feels delicious.
Mattie
"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
http://www.pythonet.org/grail3.html
P.S. I've kept my mouth shut all week. ::taking up gauntlet:: FWIW, I was
high school valedictorian, have two college degrees, and can quote the
lyrics to the theme song of practically every TV show aired in the late
sixties to early eighties, as well as the entire script of every M*A*S*H
episode. ::gently laying gauntlet back down::
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("He... knocked their king Golfimbul's head clean off with a wooden club. It
sailed a hundred yards through the air and went down a rabbit-hole, and in
this way the battle was won and the game of Golf invented at the same
moment.") and I return to whale snot, fragile mystics, and holy hand
grenades. You's all my kind of people.
All this to say: I absolutely love this decision to let go and let the kids.
Not that long ago, by this time of the evening, I'd have been exhausted from
fighting over baths and bedtime and would have just wanted to crawl onto the
couch. Instead, look at all the keyboarding energy I have left! I'm
rediscovering things *I* like to do; tonight I made homemade pretzels just
because they sounded good, and not to give the kids a lesson on yeast. I
took an online class in Spanish today and didn't even tell them! It feels so
subversive. It feels delicious.
Mattie
"You can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
http://www.pythonet.org/grail3.html
P.S. I've kept my mouth shut all week. ::taking up gauntlet:: FWIW, I was
high school valedictorian, have two college degrees, and can quote the
lyrics to the theme song of practically every TV show aired in the late
sixties to early eighties, as well as the entire script of every M*A*S*H
episode. ::gently laying gauntlet back down::
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Jorgen & Ann
I think this is kind of interesting. My youngest, Solvij, she's 7, is
really interested in numbers right now. This week she was looking at a book
called Puzzle Mountain we've read a few times. There's a page in it with
pictures of tables of snacks with prices for each on little signs. The
puzzle is if you have 10 pp, how many snacks can you buy.
She wrote on a piece of paper 10 and then started figuring out how many
snacks to get. So she chose the first one, which cost 2pp. She counted it
out on her fingers and then wrote down 8, how much she had left. Then she
kept going until she got to 0.
But the interesting thing to me is that she's been using her fingers like a
number line for quite a while now and she knows the written symbol for each
finger. She still doesn't know how to say the name of all the numbers. When
she wrote down 8, she asked me what that number was called. And the other
thing is that she has her own names for some numbers. She says 1,2,3,4,5,6,
and 7. But she calls 8 "snowman without a head," 9 is "upside down 6," 10
is "all the fingers," or "both hands," and 20 is "all the hands and feet."
The rest of us have started using her names, and I'm going to really miss
it when she calls numbers by their regular old names.
Then she was playing a Pokemon game on the gameboy and she had a piece of
paper and pencil next to her. She told me she was keeping track of
different trainers she had battled and how many times she battled them. She
made a little chart with circles that she then Xed out. She wrote the
numbers next to the symbols she made, put pluses in between them
vertically, then added the column up at the bottom.
I love watching this stuff,
Ann
really interested in numbers right now. This week she was looking at a book
called Puzzle Mountain we've read a few times. There's a page in it with
pictures of tables of snacks with prices for each on little signs. The
puzzle is if you have 10 pp, how many snacks can you buy.
She wrote on a piece of paper 10 and then started figuring out how many
snacks to get. So she chose the first one, which cost 2pp. She counted it
out on her fingers and then wrote down 8, how much she had left. Then she
kept going until she got to 0.
But the interesting thing to me is that she's been using her fingers like a
number line for quite a while now and she knows the written symbol for each
finger. She still doesn't know how to say the name of all the numbers. When
she wrote down 8, she asked me what that number was called. And the other
thing is that she has her own names for some numbers. She says 1,2,3,4,5,6,
and 7. But she calls 8 "snowman without a head," 9 is "upside down 6," 10
is "all the fingers," or "both hands," and 20 is "all the hands and feet."
The rest of us have started using her names, and I'm going to really miss
it when she calls numbers by their regular old names.
Then she was playing a Pokemon game on the gameboy and she had a piece of
paper and pencil next to her. She told me she was keeping track of
different trainers she had battled and how many times she battled them. She
made a little chart with circles that she then Xed out. She wrote the
numbers next to the symbols she made, put pluses in between them
vertically, then added the column up at the bottom.
I love watching this stuff,
Ann
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> Wally's first wife was a Basenji owner. Let's not go there. <g>Yes, I can really see how things end up this way for Basenji owners.<g>
It's not something a reasonable person would ever do TWICE, on purpose.
I do like the singing though. Just not at four in the morning. Last
night I came home to find her curled up an sleeping peacefully... on the
REFRIGERATOR! My husband wants a Golden Retriever. He's such a
sensible guy.
Deb L, sending Basenji to the ex, instead and wondering if this could be
considered an act of terrorism.
[email protected]
Send the basenji to me!
Kelly
Kelly
[email protected]
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:07:33 EST kbcdlovejo@... writes:
Please take careful note of the subject line and talk long and hard with
Pam before you even SAY the word Basenji. Then stock up on aspirin, and
maybe we'll talk. <G>
Deb L, who really loves the damn dog and will no longer threaten the nice
people of this list.
> Send the basenji to me!Kelly,
>
> Kelly
Please take careful note of the subject line and talk long and hard with
Pam before you even SAY the word Basenji. Then stock up on aspirin, and
maybe we'll talk. <G>
Deb L, who really loves the damn dog and will no longer threaten the nice
people of this list.
meghan anderson
Thanks Deb, for a drink spewingly funny moment!
Meghan :-)
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Bronwen
it's merely a flesh wound...>>>>
Thank you, oh thank you :-)
Meghan
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Thank you, oh thank you :-)
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>Bronwen
>it's merely a flesh wound...>>>>
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Hi!
My daughter writes perfect numbers backwards. She will be 7 next week. I have not said anything to her because when I have in the past (back in the pre-unschooling/deschoolin days) she melted down. I don't want to hurt her feelings or have her think she isn't doing well. Usually I'm okay with letting her do her thing and trust they will turn around in time. Then I get that inner critical self talk that says, "you should say some thing." Then I think maybe I could get some fun number stamps or stickers to play with? Then I looked at what she is creating and think, "lighten up, all is well." Thought I'd ask here since I am learning all the time.
Thank You!
Dory
My daughter writes perfect numbers backwards. She will be 7 next week. I have not said anything to her because when I have in the past (back in the pre-unschooling/deschoolin days) she melted down. I don't want to hurt her feelings or have her think she isn't doing well. Usually I'm okay with letting her do her thing and trust they will turn around in time. Then I get that inner critical self talk that says, "you should say some thing." Then I think maybe I could get some fun number stamps or stickers to play with? Then I looked at what she is creating and think, "lighten up, all is well." Thought I'd ask here since I am learning all the time.
Thank You!
Dory
Steve & Tracy Schad
Hi, Dory,
I recently did a quick Google on this because my 5 3/4y.o. dd does the same
thing. I wasn¹t worried, but more curious. Here is a quote I forwarded my dh
³First, I am an elementary educator. It is totally normal for early
elementary students to reverse letters and numbers. They "should be done"
late first grade because of good teaching but sometimes correction slips
through the cracks in even the best schools.² Keep in mind that is a school
environment where they are working on correcting, so I¹d disregard the
age/grade and just focus on the ³normal² part. I read in another of the
posts that their brains go faster than their hands; basically I think that¹s
saying it has to do with the immature hand-eye coordination wiring. Because
the symbols are still recognizable the child doesn¹t notice the ³error².
Since my dd has been interested I¹ve offered to write the numbers for her to
trace, but mostly I just let her do her thing and trust. As my dd says, ³I
like it that way.² LOL.
Tracy in MN
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I recently did a quick Google on this because my 5 3/4y.o. dd does the same
thing. I wasn¹t worried, but more curious. Here is a quote I forwarded my dh
³First, I am an elementary educator. It is totally normal for early
elementary students to reverse letters and numbers. They "should be done"
late first grade because of good teaching but sometimes correction slips
through the cracks in even the best schools.² Keep in mind that is a school
environment where they are working on correcting, so I¹d disregard the
age/grade and just focus on the ³normal² part. I read in another of the
posts that their brains go faster than their hands; basically I think that¹s
saying it has to do with the immature hand-eye coordination wiring. Because
the symbols are still recognizable the child doesn¹t notice the ³error².
Since my dd has been interested I¹ve offered to write the numbers for her to
trace, but mostly I just let her do her thing and trust. As my dd says, ³I
like it that way.² LOL.
Tracy in MN
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Sandra Dodd
-=-My daughter writes perfect numbers backwards. She will be 7 next
week. -=-
Some kids will write entirely backwards--not consistently, but if they
happen to write the first letter or number backwards, they'll continue
to the left, all backwards, because they know the relationship of the
shapes to each other, but are not yet attached to left-to-right.
That's normal and bright; nothing wrong at all.
If she's doing two digit numbers (dates or ages of older kids) and
does both numbers backwards, that's cool. If she's doing one single
number or letter backwards, you won't know what she would've done
next, but it's not important.
Playing with stickers doesn't have anything to do with it. What
might help (if you're in a rush, or you're worried) is magnetic
numbers like for a fridge. You could cut some out of paper, but
those still have a good front and back, and won't make the
difference. If she plays with and touches those shapes of numbers
(fridge magnets) it MIGHT help. The 3 and 1 won't really make any
difference, though, and the 9 and 6 are always confusing.
I wouldn't worry.
-=-Then I looked at what she is creating and think, "lighten up, all
is well." Thought I'd ask here since I am learning all the time.-=-
Oh yeah. Maybe others have given this advice. I'm way behind on e-
mail. Sorry.
Lighten up! All is well.
Sandra
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week. -=-
Some kids will write entirely backwards--not consistently, but if they
happen to write the first letter or number backwards, they'll continue
to the left, all backwards, because they know the relationship of the
shapes to each other, but are not yet attached to left-to-right.
That's normal and bright; nothing wrong at all.
If she's doing two digit numbers (dates or ages of older kids) and
does both numbers backwards, that's cool. If she's doing one single
number or letter backwards, you won't know what she would've done
next, but it's not important.
Playing with stickers doesn't have anything to do with it. What
might help (if you're in a rush, or you're worried) is magnetic
numbers like for a fridge. You could cut some out of paper, but
those still have a good front and back, and won't make the
difference. If she plays with and touches those shapes of numbers
(fridge magnets) it MIGHT help. The 3 and 1 won't really make any
difference, though, and the 9 and 6 are always confusing.
I wouldn't worry.
-=-Then I looked at what she is creating and think, "lighten up, all
is well." Thought I'd ask here since I am learning all the time.-=-
Oh yeah. Maybe others have given this advice. I'm way behind on e-
mail. Sorry.
Lighten up! All is well.
Sandra
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space_and_freedom
--- In [email protected], "emsimmom" <emsimmom@...> wrote:
I remember as a child looking at a 3 and not being able to see any difference if it was written frontwards or backwards (back to back I could tell they were different, but couldn't have picked the right one). It wouldn't have mattered how many times someone corrected me, I could not remember which way to write it.
I wouldn't point out the problem to your daughter. It probably won't help her get the numbers the right direction, and it might end up with her not writing as much. Just make sure there are lots of examples of numbers in her environment.
Good luck,
Jen H. (DD8, DD6, DS3)
>My daughter is 8 and she still flips some of her numbers. She also consistently writes the first letter of my name backwards. She just doesn't "see" it right in her minds eye yet. It will come eventually.
> Hi!
> My daughter writes perfect numbers backwards. She will be 7 next week. I have not said anything to her because when I have in the past (back in the pre-unschooling/deschoolin days) she melted down. I don't want to hurt her feelings or have her think she isn't doing well. Usually I'm okay with letting her do her thing and trust they will turn around in time. Then I get that inner critical self talk that says, "you should say some thing." Then I think maybe I could get some fun number stamps or stickers to play with? Then I looked at what she is creating and think, "lighten up, all is well." Thought I'd ask here since I am learning all the time.
> Thank You!
> Dory
>
I remember as a child looking at a 3 and not being able to see any difference if it was written frontwards or backwards (back to back I could tell they were different, but couldn't have picked the right one). It wouldn't have mattered how many times someone corrected me, I could not remember which way to write it.
I wouldn't point out the problem to your daughter. It probably won't help her get the numbers the right direction, and it might end up with her not writing as much. Just make sure there are lots of examples of numbers in her environment.
Good luck,
Jen H. (DD8, DD6, DS3)
Jenny C
> >>I remember as a child looking at a 3 and not being able to see anydifference if it was written frontwards or backwards (back to back I
could tell they were different, but couldn't have picked the right one).
It wouldn't have mattered how many times someone corrected me, I could
not remember which way to write it.>>>
I was the same way when I was a kid. It lasted for years. I started
associating letters and numbers and their proper directions with holding
out my left thumb a certain way, which I could remember was left because
I sucked that one. So, I'd hold my thumb a certain way and make sure
that whatever letter or number I was confused by, would look the right
way by how it worked with the direction my thumb was pointing.
That's hard to explain without a visual.
In school, it made me feel stupid, and other kids teased me for sucking
my thumb, but that part was necessary for me to get the writing stuff
down and knowing my left from right. I was also ambidextrous, which
confused the heck out of me when I was trying to learn how to read and
write, and forced to use just my right hand for things. I'm less
ambidextrous now because of that. Over twelve years in school using
only my right hand really did impact that.
My 14, almost 15, yr old daughter still writes some letters and numbers
backward, but she can see immediately that she's done it wrong, and she
corrects it. She didn't used to be able to "see" that it was wrong.
Using the computer and typing has really helped a lot!
emsimmom
Thank you for your posts about 'Numbers.' It has been very helpful for me to hear others stories and the thoughts behind backward writing. She does write double digits backwards too. Thanks Sandra! Now I'm thinking it is very cool! :) So much of this, if not all, is me getting out of the way and just enjoying the ride. It is very fun watching her grow and learn in her very own way.
Thanks so much!
Peace to you all~
Dory
Thanks so much!
Peace to you all~
Dory