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How could a person avoid learning?

Dead (nobody knows about spirits for sure)
In a coma (maybe)
Unconscious (maybe)
Asleep (nope... this is not where I quit learning)
Go nuts/insane (maybe but probably not)
Be unwilling to learn (maybe but then again ...nope again... I've learned
lots I didn't want to know)

Does anybody know of any "for sure" ways?

~Katherine


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Anne Mills

I thought about it and

rest laying on the grass in the oak shadows, play wrestling with little ones and write love letters to your sweat heart
could be not learning activities ? Making love ?
Anne



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> To: [email protected]
> From: katherand@...
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:21:03 -0400
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Ways to avoid learning on Learn Nothing Day:
>
>
> How could a person avoid learning?
>
> Dead (nobody knows about spirits for sure)
> In a coma (maybe)
> Unconscious (maybe)
> Asleep (nope... this is not where I quit learning)
> Go nuts/insane (maybe but probably not)
> Be unwilling to learn (maybe but then again ...nope again... I've learned
> lots I didn't want to know)
>
> Does anybody know of any "for sure" ways?
>
> ~Katherine
>
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marji

At 13:30 6/28/2008, you wrote:
>I thought about it and rest laying on the grass in the oak
>shadows, play wrestling with little ones and write love letters to
>your sweat heart could be not learning activities ? Making love ?

Nah-uh; there's tons and tons of learning in all of those things!

~marji


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In a message dated 6/28/2008 6:15:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
katherand@... writes:

<<<I do the same thing falling asleep. Brain overdrive. Ds does too. Lots of
activity helps but our minds can go *on*.>>>


Us, too. Well, oldest DS and I... DH and youngest don't seem to have that
problem (in fact, DH can fall asleep in moments just about anywhere-even
standing up!). I seem to have hit upon a solution that works for us: repetitive,
boring hand-held video games. T.V. nor reading work for me-in fact, they wake
me up. But something about a game where you have to work a long time to build
experience points to move on, or something I'm so familiar with (from
childhood, even) like Monopoly seems to occupy my mind *just enough* to keep those
thoughts from racing around in my head, but doesn't engage it enough to merit
continued altertness. I've gone from 1-2 hours of time to fall asleep to
10-30 minutes!! Wyl (9), hasn't seemed to find a game that does that for him,
yet, and many games wake him. But we're working on that.

Peace,
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Margaret

I've been thinking about this for the last few days, and I think I
found a way around this problem. Travel. I was thinking of slowly
going west to go "back" in time, but I would probably have to think
carefully about exactly when to cross the international date line...
so really, it might be best to travel around, stop nearby and plan the
time of my crossing carefully. Reading about "Coordinated Universal
Time" and finding out that there is a period of 2 hours where 3 days
are going on was cheering... surely there will be a way to do this
without ever being in July 24th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Date_Line

Then, for me, Learn Nothing day will not have existed. And then,
being a mathy sort, I am ready to start saying things about the empty
set (my mathy husband and I make empty set jokes all the time. An
example of this sort of statement is that a statement like "All
unicorns are purple" and it is a true statement but you can't say
"Unicorns are purple" as it implies the existence of Unicorns). I can
then say "Nothing I did on "Learn Nothing Day" was learning". I could
also say "Everything I did on Learn Nothing day was Learning" which
would be equally true, but I won't say it ;)

Margaret

empty set stuff -->
http://books.google.com/books?id=HANUEkUdULcC&pg=PA280&lpg=PA280&dq=%22all+unicorns+are%22&source=web&ots=4lI3bqc2A9&sig=jD1mu7kK3VaC3IybmxQb5u6odNs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
If the link doesn't work, it is a google book result and it was the
top result when I searched for "All unicorns are" (in quotes).





On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM, k <katherand@...> wrote:
> How could a person avoid learning?
>
> Dead (nobody knows about spirits for sure)
> In a coma (maybe)
> Unconscious (maybe)
> Asleep (nope... this is not where I quit learning)
> Go nuts/insane (maybe but probably not)
> Be unwilling to learn (maybe but then again ...nope again... I've learned
> lots I didn't want to know)
>
> Does anybody know of any "for sure" ways?
>
> ~Katherine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

Incidentally (while on the subject of translations) my translation spurred
some internal disagreement (as so many do) about the use of the double
negative in Spanish: Part of me still wants to call it "El Dia de NO
Aprender Nada", as that sounds more natural, while my initially submitted
contribution was "El Dia de Aprender Nada" as a more literal "Learn Nothing"
day translation, which to me has some philosophical connotations (not just
that we would try NOT to learn that day, but that by "learning nothing" we
would be somehow "learning about nothing" if you will, which I realize is
contrary to the intent of the holiday :) but still struck me as meaningful
in context. So, my disclaimer is, for a purist, the transilation "El Dia de
No Aprender Nada" might be more appropriate.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I can say the same thing for the Portuguese tranlation.
"O Dia de Nao Aprender Nada "sounds better to me too.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/

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Pam Tellew

I've only been tangentially following this business on Learn Nothing
Day...sort of trying to get a head start on it, I guess. But darn if
I didn't wake up with *ideas* about it, blast it!

Has anybody tried to get it listed on a "calendar of days"
website? I don't want to do it (I might learn something) but I'll
throw out some links if anyone wants to try:
http://www.mhprofessional.com/category/?cat=3
http://www.brownielocks.com/month2.html
http://www.holidaysmart.com/2007/year2007.htm
http://familycrafts.about.com/cs/holidays/l/blspecdays.htm
http://homeschooling.about.com/od/fundaycalendars/Holiday_Calendar_Celebrate_Special_Days_Every_Month.htm

Pam

Sandra Dodd

Darn it, I went and looked!

They didn't have Pioneers Day because it's limited to Utah, but they
had these:

July 24

Parents Day
Amelia Earhart's Birthday, 1897

they were here: http://homeschooling.about.com/od/fundaycalendars/a/
fundaysjul.htm

I don't think mainstream homeschoolers would understand...
Maybe the unschoolers should try it out. If it's a "second annual"
next year, that has more solidity than a never-yet-tested alleged
holiday.


Sandra

Sandra Dodd

-=-Reading about "Coordinated Universal
Time" and finding out that there is a period of 2 hours where 3 days
are going on was cheering... surely there will be a way to do this
without ever being in July 24th.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Date_Line-=-



Is that doable? Not whether one of us could actually afford to pull
it off, but is it a possibility, for someone to dodge a whole
calendar day? Has it been done?

-=-I can

then say "Nothing I did on "Learn Nothing Day" was learning". I could
also say "Everything I did on Learn Nothing day was Learning" which
would be equally true, but I won't say it ;)-=-

It seems it would be easier to say "I learned on the 23rd and I
learned on the 25th, but I didn't do anything on the 24th." <g>



Sandra

Margaret

I intended to reply earlier, but hopefully it is still worth posting.


On dodging days...

Sandra Dodd wrote:
> Is that doable? Not whether one of us could actually afford to pull
> it off, but is it a possibility, for someone to dodge a whole
> calendar day? Has it been done?

From what I have read, it really seems as though you can. It would
assume you were crossing the date line instantaneously to completely
miss it (like all those massless particles I remember from physics)
but yeah, I think you can. Step over from the side closer to the US
just as it is about to be midnight and the beginning of learn nothing
day and step across the international date line into the day after
learn nothing day, where it has been July 24th for the past 24 hours.


> -=-I can
> then say "Nothing I did on "Learn Nothing Day" was learning". I could
> also say "Everything I did on Learn Nothing day was Learning" which
> would be equally true, but I won't say it ;)-=-
>
> It seems it would be easier to say "I learned on the 23rd and I
> learned on the 25th, but I didn't do anything on the 24th." <g>

It would be easier to say it that way, but it isn't true,
unfortunately. You CAN make statements about properties of the
elements of the empty set (they all have this property, none of them
have this property, etc.) but you CAN'Timply existence. If you do
that the statement is false. That statement implies that you existed
on the the 24th. I guess I'm used to making these statements so they
don't sound awkward to me (just carefully said) but I see your point
that it is a bit of a mouthful.

katherand2003

Ooops! I was supposed to ask permission before cut & pasting anything
from Suite 101, so here's a repost without the cut/paste... just a
link to follow the info. Please pardon.

repost== Well here I was doing something unusual for me and actually
looking up something. (Yeh I want more deschooling.) I was over at a
discussion "The Scientific Method" and just out of curiosity thought
I'd search for something to explain more about what Ren mentioned ...
logic and how to avoid fallacious argument.

Here's what I found (having more to do with Margaret explanation of
time logic) on Linear vs. Circular -or Indigenous- Logic. Just like
Margaret said, time is a quantum physics concept. Pretty cool coinkdinky.

*The Quantum Reality
(http://aboriginalrights.suite101.com/article.cfm/linear_vs_circular_logic)
==end repost


--- In [email protected], Margaret <margaretz@...> wrote:
>
> I intended to reply earlier, but hopefully it is still worth posting.
>
>
> On dodging days...
>
> Sandra Dodd wrote:
> > Is that doable? Not whether one of us could actually afford to pull
> > it off, but is it a possibility, for someone to dodge a whole
> > calendar day? Has it been done?
>
> From what I have read, it really seems as though you can. It would
> assume you were crossing the date line instantaneously to completely
> miss it (like all those massless particles I remember from physics)
> but yeah, I think you can. Step over from the side closer to the US
> just as it is about to be midnight and the beginning of learn nothing
> day and step across the international date line into the day after
> learn nothing day, where it has been July 24th for the past 24 hours.
>
>
> > -=-I can
> > then say "Nothing I did on "Learn Nothing Day" was learning". I could
> > also say "Everything I did on Learn Nothing day was Learning" which
> > would be equally true, but I won't say it ;)-=-
> >
> > It seems it would be easier to say "I learned on the 23rd and I
> > learned on the 25th, but I didn't do anything on the 24th." <g>
>
> It would be easier to say it that way, but it isn't true,
> unfortunately. You CAN make statements about properties of the
> elements of the empty set (they all have this property, none of them
> have this property, etc.) but you CAN'Timply existence. If you do
> that the statement is false. That statement implies that you existed
> on the the 24th. I guess I'm used to making these statements so they
> don't sound awkward to me (just carefully said) but I see your point
> that it is a bit of a mouthful.
>