callymom2000

From: Earth <the_earth_witch@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 31, 2002 7:42 am

<<<<I know many,
far too many,adults who think they know it all about
'raising' kids because they have had 4 that are now
adults. But the truth is, their experience of raising
kids is far from my ideals and my experiences of being
a kid. Their experience only helps me from the what
not to do point of view. Their advice is useless to
me. Experience does not necessarily mean knowledge,
understanding, or "good" advice>>>>>>

<<<<<<I know some people who are pretty old, 90, that
do not know half of what I do. Yes, she has the
experience of living every age up to that one, but the
WAY she lived it does not provide her with knowledge
or wisdom. Does age really matter? >>>>>>>

I think a helpful word to remember here would be *Context*...The
setting, the background of this list, why it exist. Do you really
think you will find thoughtless parents or 90yr. olds that lived a
thoughtless bitter life doling out useless advise? Not likley. But
what you will find are thoughtful, experienced, charitable people
wanting to help others in their understanding of
an issue that they know well.

I am thankful for the imput here, even if I do not always agree I
love the thought processes the conversation provokes, provided it
does not come from a hostile p.o.v. which some of the less
expericenced have displayed.

Cally

Jessica Kelly

you know, no matter how much experience one has, or hold old one is, one
should never *judge* someone else. being judgemental (arrogant,
closed-minded, etc), using judgemental terms (right, wrong, etc), is a *huge*
barrier to communication, no matter how you slice it.

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"There would be no greater joy than to see a beautiful park
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- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
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In a message dated 1/31/02 12:42:12 PM, wordup@... writes:

<< you know, no matter how much experience one has, or hold old one is, one
should never *judge* someone else. being judgemental (arrogant,
closed-minded, etc), using judgemental terms (right, wrong, etc), is a *huge*
barrier to communication, no matter how you slice it. >>

Judgment is a good thing.

I really want my kids to have good judgment, to be aware of their options and
to make good choices. I don't want them thinking all options are equally
valid, that helping an elderly neighbor to clean her yard is no better or
worse than snorting cocaine.

Judgment is what causes people to homeschool. They judge that their children
will be harmed if they remain in school.

Judgment is what makes people treat their children better than they were
treated. They judge their parents to have done things that might could have
been done better.

<<you know, no matter how much experience one has, or hold old one is, one
should never *judge* someone else. being judgemental (arrogant,
closed-minded, etc), using judgemental terms (right, wrong, etc), is a *huge*
barrier to communication, no matter how you slice it.>>

It seems you've unequivocably judged something or someone a huge barrier to
communication. Not everyone here would agree, I think.

It's good to remember that words have connotations. Is a canine companion a
sweet pet or a dirty mutt? Is someone using persuasion or being a bully?
Standing by his convictions or being stubborn?

To call someone judgmental is probably in the realm of a judgmental mutt
biting its own tail. (Or a discerning dog chasing logic in a circle.)

To avoid this charge of "judgmentalism," would one have to violate her own
beliefs to the point of saying there is no "right" or "wrong"?

It's just not as black and white as it all first seems.

Sandra

Sandra

Jessica Kelly

there are several common meaning of the word judgement. when people say it's ok
to judge someone else, which means to decide whether or not what someone else
does is appropriate or inappropriate for that other person, it concerns me,
because my own experience has shown me that judgementalism is indeed a strong
barrier to productive communication.

your comment regarding judgement in terms of "good sense" is another meaning, and
is of course something i'd think we'd all hope for, for ourselves and our
families.

i'm confused and concerned as to why in your post you say that i've judged
someone for being judgemental, therefore making my own actions judgemental. i
think what i stated was a plain fact regarding interpersonal communication, and
nowhere within my post did i point fingers or judge anyone. once again, it seems
like the defensiveness on this list runs in hyper mode. i won't give up on it
yet, but it is a bit trying.

SandraDodd@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/31/02 12:42:12 PM, wordup@... writes:
>
> << you know, no matter how much experience one has, or hold old one is, one
> should never *judge* someone else. being judgemental (arrogant,
> closed-minded, etc), using judgemental terms (right, wrong, etc), is a *huge*
> barrier to communication, no matter how you slice it. >>
>
> Judgment is a good thing.
>
> I really want my kids to have good judgment, to be aware of their options and
> to make good choices. I don't want them thinking all options are equally
> valid, that helping an elderly neighbor to clean her yard is no better or
> worse than snorting cocaine.
>
> Judgment is what causes people to homeschool. They judge that their children
> will be harmed if they remain in school.
>
> Judgment is what makes people treat their children better than they were
> treated. They judge their parents to have done things that might could have
> been done better.
>
> <<you know, no matter how much experience one has, or hold old one is, one
> should never *judge* someone else. being judgemental (arrogant,
> closed-minded, etc), using judgemental terms (right, wrong, etc), is a *huge*
> barrier to communication, no matter how you slice it.>>
>
> It seems you've unequivocably judged something or someone a huge barrier to
> communication. Not everyone here would agree, I think.
>
> It's good to remember that words have connotations. Is a canine companion a
> sweet pet or a dirty mutt? Is someone using persuasion or being a bully?
> Standing by his convictions or being stubborn?
>
> To call someone judgmental is probably in the realm of a judgmental mutt
> biting its own tail. (Or a discerning dog chasing logic in a circle.)
>
> To avoid this charge of "judgmentalism," would one have to violate her own
> beliefs to the point of saying there is no "right" or "wrong"?
>
> It's just not as black and white as it all first seems.
>
> Sandra
>
> Sandra
>
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that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
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- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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In a message dated 1/31/02 5:24:42 PM, wordup@... writes:

<< i'm confused and concerned as to why in your post you say that i've judged
someone for being judgemental, therefore making my own actions judgemental. i
think what i stated was a plain fact regarding interpersonal communication,
and
nowhere within my post did i point fingers or judge anyone. once again, it
seems
like the defensiveness on this list runs in hyper mode. i won't give up on it
yet, but it is a bit trying. >>

I'm assuming you think defensiveness is a bad thing.

Saying "I'm not judgmental and people who are are bad" or "...wrong" or "...a
barrier to communication" is like having a bumper sticker that says "Mean
People Suck."


Every person who has ever said "judge not lest ye be judged" is saying to
someone "You are being judgmental."

Sandra

Jessica Kelly

let me get this straight -- you think that defensiveness is a positive trait in
terms of interpersonal communication? and you believe that a reminder that
judgementalism is unproductive to communication should be dismissed as
judgemental? i just want to get confirmation of this before i *judge* to dismiss
the validity or relevance of this thread.

SandraDodd@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/31/02 5:24:42 PM, wordup@... writes:
>
> << i'm confused and concerned as to why in your post you say that i've judged
> someone for being judgemental, therefore making my own actions judgemental. i
> think what i stated was a plain fact regarding interpersonal communication,
> and
> nowhere within my post did i point fingers or judge anyone. once again, it
> seems
> like the defensiveness on this list runs in hyper mode. i won't give up on it
> yet, but it is a bit trying. >>
>
> I'm assuming you think defensiveness is a bad thing.
>
> Saying "I'm not judgmental and people who are are bad" or "...wrong" or "...a
> barrier to communication" is like having a bumper sticker that says "Mean
> People Suck."
>
> Every person who has ever said "judge not lest ye be judged" is saying to
> someone "You are being judgmental."
>
> Sandra
>
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"There would be no greater joy than to see a beautiful park
that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
oil and gas industry."
- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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In a message dated 1/31/02 7:04:10 PM, wordup@... writes:

<< let me get this straight -- you think that defensiveness is a positive
trait in
terms of interpersonal communication? and you believe that a reminder that
judgementalism is unproductive to communication should be dismissed as
judgemental? i just want to get confirmation of this before i *judge* to
dismiss
the validity or relevance of this thread. >>

Your whole argument is a defense, yet you're accusing others of being
defensive.

And your characterizations of others seems judgmental.

I was being sarcastic, in part, in hopes that you might see the hypocrisy of
your writing and so maybe we could get away from arguing about arguing. It's
tiresome.

How do you feel about unschooling? What's your personal best story? Do you
have any concerns? Have you seen anything glorious in it lately?

Sandra

Pat Cald...

>How do you feel about unschooling? What's your personal best story? Do >you
>have any concerns? Have you seen anything glorious in it lately?

I know nobody asked me but I felt like sharing something. OK - we started homeschooling in September, unschooling in November. But of course I didn't get the unschooling thing at first and thought I had to just give them fun ways to do the 5 subjects. I bought a math game to give them at Christmas. When the game came by UPS, I didn't remember what it was so I let my dd open it. I say what it was, quickly swept it away and said to forget it. Well by Christmas, I was understanding unschooling a little more and I felt like a heel for getting them an educational gift for Christmas so I didn't give it to them. This week my dd asked why I didn't give them the game she saw and asked if she could get it. I told her it was a math game thinking she would not be interested. They have been playing the game all week and love it.

Pat


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Jessica Kelly

i didn't realize that we were arguing, but if we were, as you would probably say,
"is arguing a bad thing?" as to my argument being a defense, i know what a
defense is, and i know what defensive communication is, and my paragraph contains
neither. of course to prove that, i would have to go on defense, and that's not
worth my time (nor the time of anyone reading this, i'd think). i too was being
sarcastic, in my use of "dismiss," but that's about as far as it goes. as to
hypocracy, well, that's your judgement, and you have a right to it, they i
certainly don't agree. tiresome, you bet -- i believe i said that about 3
messages ago.

how do i feel about unschooling? well, i think it's wonderful, in theory and in
action, which is why we've ascribed to it. i didn't learn until late last year
that what we were doing had a name, and i tend to resist labels, but unschooling
it must be. i don't have a singular best story -- what i have is a child who
absorbs the world around him like a sponge, and i can't even imagine interferring
with that. we just try to facilitate and enjoy, and it's wonderful -- and in the
process, we're learning something new (or relearning something we'd forgotten)
every day. one interest flows smoothly into another, and pretty soon we're
hanging home-made planetary mobiles from the ceiling, then reading about
astrology, and then looking for constellations in the night sky, which leads to
the reading of some simplified greek or roman myths. the garden is our second
home (if that could be said of something that's a part of one's home), and the
library is our third home -- we're all home together, and the unschooling life is
glorious. the only concerns are the isolation aspect. i won't go into the
socialization thing, because i think we all agree that the "but what about
socialization question?" is b.s., but we have only one child, and in the winter
it's especially hard to find folks to gather with on a regular basis. our local
homeschooling group is absolutely wonderful -- i'm so grateful to have found such
a supportive, interesting group -- but it's winter, folks are hibernating
(including us -- we didn't get out of bed until 10, which is why i'm still stuck
working now), and sometimes i feel like we're not getting out as much as we
"should." other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics, but a
friend just turned me on to thornton burgess, and i just rediscovered the wind in
the willows and the littles, and so hope is not lost...


> << let me get this straight -- you think that defensiveness is a positive
> trait in terms of interpersonal communication? and you believe that a reminder
> that
> judgementalism is unproductive to communication should be dismissed as
> judgemental? i just want to get confirmation of this before i *judge* to
> dismiss the validity or relevance of this thread. >>
>
> Your whole argument is a defense, yet you're accusing others of being
> defensive.
>
> And your characterizations of others seems judgmental.
>
> I was being sarcastic, in part, in hopes that you might see the hypocrisy of
> your writing and so maybe we could get away from arguing about arguing. It's
> tiresome.
>
> How do you feel about unschooling? What's your personal best story? Do you
> have any concerns? Have you seen anything glorious in it lately?
>
> Sandra
>
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"There would be no greater joy than to see a beautiful park
that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
oil and gas industry."
- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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Bronwen

other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
> ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics,


my four year olds loved all the Raggedy Ann books, (and they were very
different characters- makes me think all four year olds would love them)

My Father's Dragon series, Gannett (I dont remember that it was scary, but
we found it when my son was six)

thats all i can think of right now-gotta go
Bronwen

Jessica Kelly

thanks for the raggedy tip. my father's dragon is great -- the whole series
was interesting and not scary, i'd say even for the youngest kids (we started
'em when our son was 2 1/2). and of course there's the original pooh's...
thanks again!

Bronwen wrote:

> other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
> > ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics,
>
> my four year olds loved all the Raggedy Ann books, (and they were very
> different characters- makes me think all four year olds would love them)
>
> My Father's Dragon series, Gannett (I dont remember that it was scary, but
> we found it when my son was six)
>
> thats all i can think of right now-gotta go
> Bronwen
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that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
oil and gas industry."
- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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In a message dated 1/31/02 9:35:23 PM, homeschoolmd@... writes:

<< They have been playing the game all week and love it. >>

What game?

I bought one I had seen at a conference once called Muggins (which is also
the name of another game, so never mind that)--it has dice and marbles to
mark places. My kids were only kind of interested the two times it's been
out, but adult visitors have played with it and "mathematized" to one another
about strategies.

Sandra

Jorgen & Ann

>
>"should." other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
>
>ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics, but a
>
>friend just turned me on to thornton burgess, and i just rediscovered the
>wind in
>
>the willows and the littles, and so hope is not lost...

How about:
Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle
anything by Dick King-Smith
The Borrowers
Mr. Popper's Penguins
Little House books
anything by Roald Dahl
Homer Price and Centerville Tales
Charlotte's Web
Henry Huggins
Kildee House
Pippi books
Rascal
Farley Mowat books
Mary Poppins

I could go on . . . and on. But these are favorites here.
Ann

Jessica Kelly

ty ty ty -- we do have a couple of those. mr. popper was rejected for some reason,
but i think the borrowers will be a good bet! another good one i forgot we found:
the james herriott books. tx again.

Jorgen & Ann wrote:

> How about:
> Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle
> anything by Dick King-Smith
> The Borrowers
> Mr. Popper's Penguins
> Little House books
> anything by Roald Dahl
> Homer Price and Centerville Tales
> Charlotte's Web
> Henry Huggins
> Kildee House
> Pippi books
> Rascal
> Farley Mowat books
> Mary Poppins
>
> I could go on . . . and on. But these are favorites here.
> Ann

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that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
oil and gas industry."
- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:01:14 EST SandraDodd@... writes:
> I bought one I had seen at a conference once called Muggins (which is
also
> the name of another game, so never mind that)--it has dice and marbles
to
> mark places. My kids were only kind of interested the two times it's
been
> out, but adult visitors have played with it and "mathematized" to
> one another about strategies.


I think we have that, the marble vriety. Cacie didn't like it much
either, it's more of a "game for the sake of doing arithmetic", IMO.

We're been getting a lot of old games at thrift stores and playing,
though. Inner Circle is kinda fun, that was Cacie's favorite, and also
Deuce and Can't Stop.

dar
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actually, some of the roald stuff is too scary for me! i have the same phobia
of alice in wonderland, at least with the original illustrations. speaking of
tired, i'm finally off work. geez, what a long day. books and bed await...

SandraDodd@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/31/02 11:09:05 PM, stargate@... writes:
>
> << anything by Roald Dahl >>
>
> Some of that's too scary for some (most?) little kids.
>
> We're on Mathilda again. We might be done, but reading helps me fall asleep
> (too easily!)
>
> Sandra
>
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"There would be no greater joy than to see a beautiful park
that our children and adults can go to and learn about the
oil and gas industry."
- Tony Sanchez, former Texas Parks & Wildlife Commissioner
[it's all about oil...]
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In a message dated 1/31/02 11:09:05 PM, stargate@... writes:

<< anything by Roald Dahl >>

Some of that's too scary for some (most?) little kids.

We're on Mathilda again. We might be done, but reading helps me fall asleep
(too easily!)

Sandra

Jorgen & Ann

>Some of that's too scary for some (most?) little kids.

Yeah, it definitely depends on the kid. Reading a book yourself first never
hurts.

Ann

Bronwen

> > anything by Roald Dahl

R.D. is one of our favorites around here but at times very scary and
disturbing for some young kids- my son at 4-5 loved CHrlie and the CHoclate
Factory- but it's sequel freaked him out and we couldnt get past the first
chapter..

play it buy ear, of course ,but I would definately red flag the RD as
possible scary/disturbing- oh my gosh..the adults are often so wonderfully
mean and cruel!!
God "the Twits"! love it.

Bronwen

Pat Cald...

>What game?

>I bought one I had seen at a conference once called Muggins (which >is also
>the name of another game, so never mind that)--it has dice and >marbles to
>mark places. My kids were only kind of interested the two times >it's been
>out, but adult visitors have played with it and "mathematized" to >one another
>about strategies.

That's the one. I got a two sided board - one side with Muggins, the other with Knock-Out. My dd went to their website and asked for Fudge and Opps. I ordered the opps wipe-off board because I think we can play the game on the Muggins board. I like playing but no one can go by me because I hate most other board games since they require so little thought. I get bored very easily. I also bought the geometric design maker. The designs you can make are gorgeous. It is kind of a connect the dot type thing.

The ps friends played and got very competitive about how easy it was to do the math. I didn't like that.

Pat




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Jorgen & Ann

>>Some of that's too scary for some (most?) little kids.

And I thought when I was almost asleep last night, prolly not My Uncle
Oswald, either. <g> But that wasn't written for kids.

Oh, and we got a neat kids biography of Dahl from the library. It had
pictures of his writing hut. And one of Dylan Thomas'.

Ann

Pat Cald...

<< anything by Roald Dahl >>

I loved reading "The Witches" out loud and using different voices.

Some books are really a drag to read out loud. I like when they have a nice flow to them.

Pat


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In a message dated 2/1/02 9:11:39 AM, homeschoolmd@... writes:

<< I loved reading "The Witches" out loud and using different voices. >>

there's a pretty good movie of this - with Anjelica Huston as the Grand High
Witch - but it is scary.

Paula

Pat Cald...

We have the play version of James and The Giant Peach and another one of his books.

Pat
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Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Roald Dahl again


>>Some of that's too scary for some (most?) little kids.

And I thought when I was almost asleep last night, prolly not My Uncle
Oswald, either. <g> But that wasn't written for kids.

Oh, and we got a neat kids biography of Dahl from the library. It had
pictures of his writing hut. And one of Dylan Thomas'.

Ann



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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:08:41 -0500 "Pat Cald..." <homeschoolmd@...>
writes:
> << anything by Roald Dahl >>
>
> I loved reading "The Witches" out loud and using different voices.
>

We read The Witches and loved it, then got the video and were So Upset.
It's totally wrong....

OTOH, I thought the video for Matilda was great, very true to the book.

Esio Trot is a great Dahl book but hard to read aloud, because you have
to keep stopping to point out the spelling stuff so everyone gets the
joke. Cacie finally just decided to read it herself, very kindly but
still...

Dar
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>other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
>ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics, but a
>friend just turned me on to thornton burgess, and i just rediscovered the
>wind in
>the willows and the littles, and so hope is not lost...

How old is your son? I could probably suggest some. My 7yo granddaughter
has gone through quite a list in the last year or two.
Tia


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In a message dated 2/1/02 9:51:33 AM, freeform@... writes:

<< OTOH, I thought the video for Matilda was great, very true to the book. >>

As close as it was, Holly keeps interrupting to say "But in the movie..." and
detailing the differences. And because she's kid of an Anglophile, she's
hyper-aware of the Britishisms they abandoned to make the characters American.

She can be an irritating kid. <g>

Sandra

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:14:26 EST SandraDodd@... writes:
> In a message dated 2/1/02 9:51:33 AM, freeform@... writes:
>
> << OTOH, I thought the video for Matilda was great, very true to the
> book. >>
>
> As close as it was, Holly keeps interrupting to say "But in the
movie..." and
> detailing the differences. And because she's kid of an Anglophile,
she's
> hyper-aware of the Britishisms they abandoned to make the characters
> American.
>
> She can be an irritating kid. <g>
>

Cacie does the same thing with most mvies from books... maybe with
Matilda there was a long enough lag-time bwteen seeing the movie and
reading the book that she missed some ;-) No, wait, *she* never read the
book, that's why! And I'm a much more lenient critic on that score.

A lot of movies seem to totally change the ending of the books, and that
bugs her most of all... after Witches she was literally jumping up and
down shouting at the tv... and she hissed at me all through Stuart
Little... she needs a friend like Holly, someone who enjoys the fine art
of critiquing.

Dar
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5. he's really into fantasy and myths, but i haven't found anything besides the
long pix books (like The Dragon & The Unicorn) that wouldn't scare him (wish
there was a harry potter-lite). we found this great book called a walk through
the heavens which has less-violent versions of the greek/roman constellation
myths, and that's been a big hit, but can't find anything else in that vein.
he's got both poohs, the 3 my father's dragon, all the catwings, and we just
started the wind in the willows. stuart little was met with *little* interest,
but the littles got raves, and so i'm going to try the borrowers next, i think.
i'm avoiding charlotte's web because i know the end will floor him at that
point.

Tia Leschke wrote:

> >other frustration is a lack of interesting chapter books for little
> >ones who are still young enough to get scared by, well, scary topics, but a
> >friend just turned me on to thornton burgess, and i just rediscovered the
> >wind in
> >the willows and the littles, and so hope is not lost...
>
> How old is your son? I could probably suggest some. My 7yo granddaughter
> has gone through quite a list in the last year or two.
> Tia
>
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We came across a book called "Backyard Dragon" that the kids liked.