Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Help in the "nonnutritive" food department...
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In a message dated 9/27/2007 9:00:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
boulier72@... writes:
<Children need to know how to make a good decision.>
<He can not make a good choice for himself >
And how will he ever learn to make good decisions or choices if his
decisions are always made by someone else?
<Your child is addicted to sugar, colorings, additives etc.. Can't you see
that? >
and
<you are supporting a terrible industry who's main objective is to make
money and create a generation of people addicted to their products?>
and
<educate yourself on the addictive/harmful nature of the ingredients within
the candy, soda etc- what you will find, among other things, is that when one
is consuming these products the brain & body in turn suffers greatly
rendering cognitive problems as well as a host of other terrible symptoms of the
addiction>
This is fear-mongering, plain and simple. And *not* helpful.
<you should try to push off the fear that you can't place a boundary.>
I can get this kind of "put your foot down, *YOU* are in charge" kind of
advice just about anywhere I ask-that's *why* I brought it here, because I knew
I would get honest, direct answers that would help me build my relationship
with my children, open my home and family to possibilities and bring more
peace and joy to our lives.
Sang
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boulier72@... writes:
<Children need to know how to make a good decision.>
<He can not make a good choice for himself >
And how will he ever learn to make good decisions or choices if his
decisions are always made by someone else?
<Your child is addicted to sugar, colorings, additives etc.. Can't you see
that? >
and
<you are supporting a terrible industry who's main objective is to make
money and create a generation of people addicted to their products?>
and
<educate yourself on the addictive/harmful nature of the ingredients within
the candy, soda etc- what you will find, among other things, is that when one
is consuming these products the brain & body in turn suffers greatly
rendering cognitive problems as well as a host of other terrible symptoms of the
addiction>
This is fear-mongering, plain and simple. And *not* helpful.
<you should try to push off the fear that you can't place a boundary.>
I can get this kind of "put your foot down, *YOU* are in charge" kind of
advice just about anywhere I ask-that's *why* I brought it here, because I knew
I would get honest, direct answers that would help me build my relationship
with my children, open my home and family to possibilities and bring more
peace and joy to our lives.
Sang
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In a message dated 9/27/2007 2:44:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hahamommy@... writes:
<The very best place to begin is my own thoughts that stand in my way --
somehow it's never about the kid, is it? ::bg::>
And yet mainstream parenting says it is *all* about the kid. That concept
was a very tough one to come to-for us, anyway. And yet, it was the turning
point for our journey into whole life unschooling.
<First I'd recommend losing (internal *&* external) judgment over what's
nutritious and what isn't. >
Oh, yeah, I do that all the time-I just keep finding it again. ;~)
< Even candy nourishes. For me, there is something soulful in the eating of
my favorite sweet. >
Really, though, this was *big*. A very "Wow... Yeah!" moment for me. That
helps a lot. Thanks.
<Is there a fear in him that you're going to begin restricting his candy?? >
From what we talked about tonight, no, I don't think he feels that way at
all. But then again, it could be "under the surface" so to speak. I will try to
work on my thinking of candy being more part of the tribe, though. It could
only help us all.
<there's a natural ebb and flow...>
That is SO funny-I was just blogging a few days ago about the ebb and flow
of *my* journey through unschooling!! Though my terminology was more about
"tides", but I like your terminology-it makes me think of the cute cartoon
shorts on Noggin with the little girl and her dog, Ebb and Flo. Connections. Makes
it seem like it was "meant to be".
<Does he know cans=cash?>
I had forgotten about this, myself. We used to hoard cans for the cash when
we were in leaner times. Funny, we'd probably have had more cash if we'd not
have drunk so much pop. lol Thank goodness that was before we became parents.
Wyl seemed really excited about it, but I wasn't sure about the price they
pay nowadays (we curb recycle), but I'll be finding that out for sure tomorrow.
I don't think we have any of those machines that you can put the cans in for
cash, near here. I haven't seen any in many years.
~~~I'm NOT comfortable with chemical sugar-substitute sweeteners,~~~
<I confess this is a *BIG* one with me!! We do read labels, definitely as an
"informed consent" not restriction. Hayden knows his dad had a brain tumor.
Hayden knows dad's doctors told him *never* to have nutrasweet. >
I read this part (among other parts) to Wyl and he would like to know more
of the story, like, "Did he drink the nutrasweet?". If you don't want to talk
about that, I understand, and if you'd rather keep that offlist, that's fine,
too-you're welcome to e-mail me anytime.
<There is flavored water with Splenda. Artificial yeah, but not a
neuroexciter :)>
Good point. Thanks for helping me see beyond my fears of The Dreaded
Artificial. Why do I always forget the "breathe" part?? Its almost always the first
thing I tell other people, but when things get to "critical" where I can't
fight my way out of the wet paper bag of my fears, I completely forget about
breathing.
Thanks.
Off to ~*breathe*~ and contemplate,
Sang
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hahamommy@... writes:
<The very best place to begin is my own thoughts that stand in my way --
somehow it's never about the kid, is it? ::bg::>
And yet mainstream parenting says it is *all* about the kid. That concept
was a very tough one to come to-for us, anyway. And yet, it was the turning
point for our journey into whole life unschooling.
<First I'd recommend losing (internal *&* external) judgment over what's
nutritious and what isn't. >
Oh, yeah, I do that all the time-I just keep finding it again. ;~)
< Even candy nourishes. For me, there is something soulful in the eating of
my favorite sweet. >
Really, though, this was *big*. A very "Wow... Yeah!" moment for me. That
helps a lot. Thanks.
<Is there a fear in him that you're going to begin restricting his candy?? >
From what we talked about tonight, no, I don't think he feels that way at
all. But then again, it could be "under the surface" so to speak. I will try to
work on my thinking of candy being more part of the tribe, though. It could
only help us all.
<there's a natural ebb and flow...>
That is SO funny-I was just blogging a few days ago about the ebb and flow
of *my* journey through unschooling!! Though my terminology was more about
"tides", but I like your terminology-it makes me think of the cute cartoon
shorts on Noggin with the little girl and her dog, Ebb and Flo. Connections. Makes
it seem like it was "meant to be".
<Does he know cans=cash?>
I had forgotten about this, myself. We used to hoard cans for the cash when
we were in leaner times. Funny, we'd probably have had more cash if we'd not
have drunk so much pop. lol Thank goodness that was before we became parents.
Wyl seemed really excited about it, but I wasn't sure about the price they
pay nowadays (we curb recycle), but I'll be finding that out for sure tomorrow.
I don't think we have any of those machines that you can put the cans in for
cash, near here. I haven't seen any in many years.
~~~I'm NOT comfortable with chemical sugar-substitute sweeteners,~~~
<I confess this is a *BIG* one with me!! We do read labels, definitely as an
"informed consent" not restriction. Hayden knows his dad had a brain tumor.
Hayden knows dad's doctors told him *never* to have nutrasweet. >
I read this part (among other parts) to Wyl and he would like to know more
of the story, like, "Did he drink the nutrasweet?". If you don't want to talk
about that, I understand, and if you'd rather keep that offlist, that's fine,
too-you're welcome to e-mail me anytime.
<There is flavored water with Splenda. Artificial yeah, but not a
neuroexciter :)>
Good point. Thanks for helping me see beyond my fears of The Dreaded
Artificial. Why do I always forget the "breathe" part?? Its almost always the first
thing I tell other people, but when things get to "critical" where I can't
fight my way out of the wet paper bag of my fears, I completely forget about
breathing.
Thanks.
Off to ~*breathe*~ and contemplate,
Sang
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In a message dated 9/30/2007 5:32:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kmoke@... writes:
Sort of like how many adults lose touch with what excellent
health feels like and come to accept a fairly mediocre state of
health (allergies, headaches, fatigue etc) as their normal because
the decline occurs very gradually and they're not technically "sick
in bed"- the downside of human adaptability I guess.
But this is what I see as the difference between being raised respectfully,
with trust to know one's own body and mainstream parenting. All the adults I
know who come to that mediocre state of health have been raised
traditionally-*not* with respect and trust to know their own bodies. They've learned to
ignore what their body says and to listen to what an authority figure (parent,
then doctors and other professionals) say-without question. That is why I'm
so determined to find my way to trust and respect-so that my kids *can* listen
to their own bodies, their own minds, their own hearts. Without doubt or
fear or lack of confidence. In essence, to be more than I am/was.
Peace,
Sang
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kmoke@... writes:
Sort of like how many adults lose touch with what excellent
health feels like and come to accept a fairly mediocre state of
health (allergies, headaches, fatigue etc) as their normal because
the decline occurs very gradually and they're not technically "sick
in bed"- the downside of human adaptability I guess.
But this is what I see as the difference between being raised respectfully,
with trust to know one's own body and mainstream parenting. All the adults I
know who come to that mediocre state of health have been raised
traditionally-*not* with respect and trust to know their own bodies. They've learned to
ignore what their body says and to listen to what an authority figure (parent,
then doctors and other professionals) say-without question. That is why I'm
so determined to find my way to trust and respect-so that my kids *can* listen
to their own bodies, their own minds, their own hearts. Without doubt or
fear or lack of confidence. In essence, to be more than I am/was.
Peace,
Sang
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Sandra Dodd
-=-Why do I always forget the "breathe" part?? Its almost always
the
first
thing I tell other people, but when things get to "critical" where I
can't
fight my way out of the wet paper bag of my fears, I completely
forget about
breathing.-=-
This has been sitting in this state of first-draftedness for a
while, and eventually I guess it will have more...
http://sandradodd.com/breathing
I'll look for already-written things sometime and fill it in with
those, maybe.
Sandra
the
first
thing I tell other people, but when things get to "critical" where I
can't
fight my way out of the wet paper bag of my fears, I completely
forget about
breathing.-=-
This has been sitting in this state of first-draftedness for a
while, and eventually I guess it will have more...
http://sandradodd.com/breathing
I'll look for already-written things sometime and fill it in with
those, maybe.
Sandra