a question from Kirby
Sandra Dodd
Kirby would like for me to ask this list for advice on moving and
setting up in an apartment for the first time.
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there? (He's moving to Austin in six weeks, to work, and it's a 15
or so hour drive from Albuquerque, slower with a trailer.) The
moving allowance is $1500 and there are two of them going, but
they're both too young to rent a truck. Keith has offered to let
them take our conversion van which can pull a trailer. (If they
can't rent a trailer either, we have a trailer that's about 4x8, two
feet deep or so, and has racks.)
I myself have never moved so far I couldn't just go to the old house
(where parents or friends were still living) the next day or on the
weekend and get some more stuff. I'm not a good advisor for him.
What's been forgotten that people wish they had brought from home?
This might seem off the topic of unschooling, but moving from one
place to another is another of those things people learn naturally,
from experience, pretty much, or observation, or asking. (Though if
anyone knows of websites or online checklists that would be great. A
year or some ago there was one in the USAA insurance magazine, but
Kirby can't find it now; it was probably thrown away.)
Thanks,
Sandra
setting up in an apartment for the first time.
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there? (He's moving to Austin in six weeks, to work, and it's a 15
or so hour drive from Albuquerque, slower with a trailer.) The
moving allowance is $1500 and there are two of them going, but
they're both too young to rent a truck. Keith has offered to let
them take our conversion van which can pull a trailer. (If they
can't rent a trailer either, we have a trailer that's about 4x8, two
feet deep or so, and has racks.)
I myself have never moved so far I couldn't just go to the old house
(where parents or friends were still living) the next day or on the
weekend and get some more stuff. I'm not a good advisor for him.
What's been forgotten that people wish they had brought from home?
This might seem off the topic of unschooling, but moving from one
place to another is another of those things people learn naturally,
from experience, pretty much, or observation, or asking. (Though if
anyone knows of websites or online checklists that would be great. A
year or some ago there was one in the USAA insurance magazine, but
Kirby can't find it now; it was probably thrown away.)
Thanks,
Sandra
Jenny E
Okay...this may sound silly and I'm not sure this is the type of answer you are looking for..
The first things that came to my mind were A TOASTER and CAN OPENER. The first time I moved away from home (moved two states away)...I got everything (which was not much) unpacked and felt settled in and wanted to eat something that I made in my very own kitchen. I didn't have a can opener to even open a can of soup. Had a pan, bowl, spoon and can of soup...no opener. Okay...I'll make an egg sandwich on toasted bread...no toaster. I had scrambeled eggs.
Good luck to Kirby on his move...how exciting! I'm sure we'll get lots of updates on his journey and how things unfold for him.
Jenny
Mom to Beck and Dane
"Learning the natural way every day."
---- Original Message -----
From: Sandra Dodd
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] a question from Kirby
Kirby would like for me to ask this list for advice on moving and
setting up in an apartment for the first time.
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there? (He's moving to Austin in six weeks, to work, and it's a 15
or so hour drive from Albuquerque, slower with a trailer.) The
moving allowance is $1500 and there are two of them going, but
they're both too young to rent a truck. Keith has offered to let
them take our conversion van which can pull a trailer. (If they
can't rent a trailer either, we have a trailer that's about 4x8, two
feet deep or so, and has racks.)
I myself have never moved so far I couldn't just go to the old house
(where parents or friends were still living) the next day or on the
weekend and get some more stuff. I'm not a good advisor for him.
What's been forgotten that people wish they had brought from home?
This might seem off the topic of unschooling, but moving from one
place to another is another of those things people learn naturally,
from experience, pretty much, or observation, or asking. (Though if
anyone knows of websites or online checklists that would be great. A
year or some ago there was one in the USAA insurance magazine, but
Kirby can't find it now; it was probably thrown away.)
Thanks,
Sandra
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The first things that came to my mind were A TOASTER and CAN OPENER. The first time I moved away from home (moved two states away)...I got everything (which was not much) unpacked and felt settled in and wanted to eat something that I made in my very own kitchen. I didn't have a can opener to even open a can of soup. Had a pan, bowl, spoon and can of soup...no opener. Okay...I'll make an egg sandwich on toasted bread...no toaster. I had scrambeled eggs.
Good luck to Kirby on his move...how exciting! I'm sure we'll get lots of updates on his journey and how things unfold for him.
Jenny
Mom to Beck and Dane
"Learning the natural way every day."
---- Original Message -----
From: Sandra Dodd
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] a question from Kirby
Kirby would like for me to ask this list for advice on moving and
setting up in an apartment for the first time.
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there? (He's moving to Austin in six weeks, to work, and it's a 15
or so hour drive from Albuquerque, slower with a trailer.) The
moving allowance is $1500 and there are two of them going, but
they're both too young to rent a truck. Keith has offered to let
them take our conversion van which can pull a trailer. (If they
can't rent a trailer either, we have a trailer that's about 4x8, two
feet deep or so, and has racks.)
I myself have never moved so far I couldn't just go to the old house
(where parents or friends were still living) the next day or on the
weekend and get some more stuff. I'm not a good advisor for him.
What's been forgotten that people wish they had brought from home?
This might seem off the topic of unschooling, but moving from one
place to another is another of those things people learn naturally,
from experience, pretty much, or observation, or asking. (Though if
anyone knows of websites or online checklists that would be great. A
year or some ago there was one in the USAA insurance magazine, but
Kirby can't find it now; it was probably thrown away.)
Thanks,
Sandra
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Paula Sjogerman
On Jul 10, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
Austin vs. Albuquerque?
I'd take everything he can fit that he already owns and buy stuff
there that he doesn't unless it's way more expensive there.
For me, the essentials would be: clothes he loves, any work things he
needs, a basic set of pots/pans/dishes/knives, a computer, a cell
phone, a bicycle if he rides one, and a lamp.
Of course, I like to pack light <gg>.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something that will make me say "duh," but
that's the beauty of lists.
Good luck, Kirby!
Paula
> , what should he consider acquiring here? BuyingOne question to answer is: how much more expensive are things in
> there? (He's moving to Austin in six weeks, to work, and it's a 15
> or so hour drive from Albuquerque, slower with a trailer.) T
Austin vs. Albuquerque?
I'd take everything he can fit that he already owns and buy stuff
there that he doesn't unless it's way more expensive there.
For me, the essentials would be: clothes he loves, any work things he
needs, a basic set of pots/pans/dishes/knives, a computer, a cell
phone, a bicycle if he rides one, and a lamp.
Of course, I like to pack light <gg>.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something that will make me say "duh," but
that's the beauty of lists.
Good luck, Kirby!
Paula
[email protected]
In a message dated 7/10/2007 3:12:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Sandra@... writes:
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there?
----
With a $1500 moving allowance and not much to move, he might want to check
online with U-Pack. _www.upack.com_ (http://www.upack.com) They will bring
a small pod to your house. You pack it and they pick it up and deliver it
your destination. We found out to actually be cheaper than the times we did it
ourselves and certainly much more convenient.
We have used both the U-Haul method (once with a trailer behind our car
right out of college) and another time driving a U-Haul truck as well as the
U-Pack. Recently, my children's dad just moved from Austin to here (Florida) and
he used 3 of the pods for all his stuff.
Of course, Albuquerque to Austin isn't as far as we were moving (you can
make it in 13 hours easily..<g>) I don't have much advice for what to bring but
I can offer some Austin recommendations after living there for 14 years and
still missing it after 10 here in Florida.
Gail
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Sandra@... writes:
From your own experiences or those of your grown children who have
moved (if any), what should he consider acquiring here? Buying
there?
----
With a $1500 moving allowance and not much to move, he might want to check
online with U-Pack. _www.upack.com_ (http://www.upack.com) They will bring
a small pod to your house. You pack it and they pick it up and deliver it
your destination. We found out to actually be cheaper than the times we did it
ourselves and certainly much more convenient.
We have used both the U-Haul method (once with a trailer behind our car
right out of college) and another time driving a U-Haul truck as well as the
U-Pack. Recently, my children's dad just moved from Austin to here (Florida) and
he used 3 of the pods for all his stuff.
Of course, Albuquerque to Austin isn't as far as we were moving (you can
make it in 13 hours easily..<g>) I don't have much advice for what to bring but
I can offer some Austin recommendations after living there for 14 years and
still missing it after 10 here in Florida.
Gail
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Kathleen Whitfield
--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd
<Sandra@...> wrote:
the company needs a receipt for and will reimburse? Or is it
$1500 that the company will give directly to Kirby? Also, is it
$1500 for each of the young men?
I moved six times, each times more than 300 miles, while I was
single. Since I've been married, I've moved to different cities four
different times. One of those moves was nearly 2,000 miles; the
other two were each about 80 miles.
I would say that it unless he has special furniture that he really
wants to bring or special electronic equipment, I would try to
avoid the whole trailer set-up.
If he has a lot of special electronic equipment that won't fit in the
vehicle he travels in, I'd probably price a moving company --
which can be less expensive than you'd think. Particularly if Kirby
gets together with his friend, it might be a better deal and
considerably less hassle -- particularly since this is a funded
move.
On the other hand, Austin is a huge college town, and there are
likely a lot of second-hand stores that cater to the student market
and who get their stock from the student market. There's also an
Ikea store, in addition to many Targets, which will have the same
prices as the Targets in Albuquerque. Ikea will be a great way to
furnish a first apartment; it has well-designed, inexpensive
kitchen supplies as well as furniture (I'm not a huge fan of the
furniture, but it's inexpensive. It does require assembly.)
I made a huge mistake when I moved from Albuquerque to
South Bend, Ind., when I was 18 because I imagined that a) I
wouldn't be able to get off campus to find things and b) the
things I needed wouldn't be available in Indiana (at the time,
good salsa and green chile *were* hard to find, but those things
soon arrived). So I overpacked. Big time. Plus, I then needed
things that I hadn't anticipated. Fortunately, South Bend did
indeed have stores!
I guess I would encourage Kirby to bring what he knows he
wants to bring and not try too hard to anticipate needs.
Kathleen Whitfield
in SoCal
<Sandra@...> wrote:
>but
> Kirby would like for me to ask this list for advice on moving and
> setting up in an apartment for the first time.
>
> The
> moving allowance is $1500 and there are two of them going,
> they're both too young to rent a truck.My questions would be these: Is the $1500 for moving costs that
the company needs a receipt for and will reimburse? Or is it
$1500 that the company will give directly to Kirby? Also, is it
$1500 for each of the young men?
I moved six times, each times more than 300 miles, while I was
single. Since I've been married, I've moved to different cities four
different times. One of those moves was nearly 2,000 miles; the
other two were each about 80 miles.
I would say that it unless he has special furniture that he really
wants to bring or special electronic equipment, I would try to
avoid the whole trailer set-up.
If he has a lot of special electronic equipment that won't fit in the
vehicle he travels in, I'd probably price a moving company --
which can be less expensive than you'd think. Particularly if Kirby
gets together with his friend, it might be a better deal and
considerably less hassle -- particularly since this is a funded
move.
On the other hand, Austin is a huge college town, and there are
likely a lot of second-hand stores that cater to the student market
and who get their stock from the student market. There's also an
Ikea store, in addition to many Targets, which will have the same
prices as the Targets in Albuquerque. Ikea will be a great way to
furnish a first apartment; it has well-designed, inexpensive
kitchen supplies as well as furniture (I'm not a huge fan of the
furniture, but it's inexpensive. It does require assembly.)
I made a huge mistake when I moved from Albuquerque to
South Bend, Ind., when I was 18 because I imagined that a) I
wouldn't be able to get off campus to find things and b) the
things I needed wouldn't be available in Indiana (at the time,
good salsa and green chile *were* hard to find, but those things
soon arrived). So I overpacked. Big time. Plus, I then needed
things that I hadn't anticipated. Fortunately, South Bend did
indeed have stores!
I guess I would encourage Kirby to bring what he knows he
wants to bring and not try too hard to anticipate needs.
Kathleen Whitfield
in SoCal
Sandra Dodd
-=-Okay...this may sound silly and I'm not sure this is the type of
answer you are looking for..
The first things that came to my mind were A TOASTER and CAN OPENER-=-
No, that's great. Thank you.
That's part of what we were wondering is what have people forgotten
and wished they had.
But the suggestions of the pod-shipping or moving company are great,
too.
I thought he should just take what will fit in his car and take a
futon to sleep on and decide when he gets there what he needs and
wants and get it later, but I'm passing all these things to him and
THANK YOU ALL.
Any little thing anyone thinks of would be appreciated.
We will face the difficult decisions about which DVDs he takes. <g>
Music is easier now, with iTunes and Mp3 players, at least.
And HOW WONDERFUL that his cell phone number will be the same and we
can all IM and e-mail. It's not as bad as it would've been in
earlier decades.
Sandra
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answer you are looking for..
The first things that came to my mind were A TOASTER and CAN OPENER-=-
No, that's great. Thank you.
That's part of what we were wondering is what have people forgotten
and wished they had.
But the suggestions of the pod-shipping or moving company are great,
too.
I thought he should just take what will fit in his car and take a
futon to sleep on and decide when he gets there what he needs and
wants and get it later, but I'm passing all these things to him and
THANK YOU ALL.
Any little thing anyone thinks of would be appreciated.
We will face the difficult decisions about which DVDs he takes. <g>
Music is easier now, with iTunes and Mp3 players, at least.
And HOW WONDERFUL that his cell phone number will be the same and we
can all IM and e-mail. It's not as bad as it would've been in
earlier decades.
Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
-=-s the $1500 for moving costs that
the company needs a receipt for and will reimburse? Or is it
$1500 that the company will give directly to Kirby? Also, is it
$1500 for each of the young men? -=-
For each.
They give them the money. If they stay less than a year, they owe
some of it back (I assume they wouldn't get their last two checks,
or whatever--it would be pro-rated for however many months they were
there).
Sandra
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the company needs a receipt for and will reimburse? Or is it
$1500 that the company will give directly to Kirby? Also, is it
$1500 for each of the young men? -=-
For each.
They give them the money. If they stay less than a year, they owe
some of it back (I assume they wouldn't get their last two checks,
or whatever--it would be pro-rated for however many months they were
there).
Sandra
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space_and_freedom
--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
pop tops :)
I'd say a toaster oven is more versatile than a toaster (got one for a
wedding present ten years ago and never went back to a toaster).
I'd also make sure to pack some toilet paper, and a bath towel and all
applicable toiletries.
Maybe have a bag (with a few changes of clothes and toiletries as if
he were going on a weekend trip) easily accessible so he doesn't have
to search for stuff right when he gets there.
Sheets for the futon. Pillows. Light bulbs. Does he already have an
apartment arranged, or does he have to find something once he is there?
He probably has to pay taxes on the 1500.00.
Quarters for laundry.
All right, I'll stop now :)
Good luck to Kirby.
Jen H.
>I second the can opener suggestion, though these days most soup have
> -=-Okay...this may sound silly and I'm not sure this is the type of
> answer you are looking for..
> The first things that came to my mind were A TOASTER and CAN OPENER-=-
>
> No, that's great. Thank you.
> That's part of what we were wondering is what have people forgotten
> and wished they had.
pop tops :)
I'd say a toaster oven is more versatile than a toaster (got one for a
wedding present ten years ago and never went back to a toaster).
I'd also make sure to pack some toilet paper, and a bath towel and all
applicable toiletries.
Maybe have a bag (with a few changes of clothes and toiletries as if
he were going on a weekend trip) easily accessible so he doesn't have
to search for stuff right when he gets there.
Sheets for the futon. Pillows. Light bulbs. Does he already have an
apartment arranged, or does he have to find something once he is there?
He probably has to pay taxes on the 1500.00.
Quarters for laundry.
All right, I'll stop now :)
Good luck to Kirby.
Jen H.
Sandra Dodd
-=-Does he already have an
apartment arranged, or does he have to find something once he is
there? -=-
He's corresponding with an agent who has a website with photos. All
new deal. <g>
-=-He probably has to pay taxes on the 1500.00.-=-
Thanks for that reminder!!
Sandra
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apartment arranged, or does he have to find something once he is
there? -=-
He's corresponding with an agent who has a website with photos. All
new deal. <g>
-=-He probably has to pay taxes on the 1500.00.-=-
Thanks for that reminder!!
Sandra
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[email protected]
If he *does* end up taking a trailer or having to pack a large
truck/trailer/vehicle, I would suggest getting help from a friend or relative who has
moved frequently. We know how to pack to get the most out of the available space.
Sang,
Who moved 4 times in the first 5 years of marriage, 6 times total, and
helped numerous friends move (but never moved more than an hour away from the
farthest points)
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truck/trailer/vehicle, I would suggest getting help from a friend or relative who has
moved frequently. We know how to pack to get the most out of the available space.
Sang,
Who moved 4 times in the first 5 years of marriage, 6 times total, and
helped numerous friends move (but never moved more than an hour away from the
farthest points)
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com
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alexandriapalonia
Moving things is almost more expensive than acquiring them. (Esp.
things like light bulbs and coat hangers).
My first post-college move I did via airplane, with the knowledge that
I might have to walk as much as 4 miles on the other end. I had a
duffel bag and two boxes. In the bottom of the duffel bad were a thin
pillow, a quilt, a sheet, one setting of silverware, one paring knife,
a small sauce pan, a partial roll of toilet paper, a second pair of
shoes, and sweater. The rest was clothes. In one of the boxes was my
computer, and in the other important papers and books.
I acquired a few things here and there, but until we had the first
baby, no move occupied more than one car (Subaru) load.
Andrea-the-light
things like light bulbs and coat hangers).
My first post-college move I did via airplane, with the knowledge that
I might have to walk as much as 4 miles on the other end. I had a
duffel bag and two boxes. In the bottom of the duffel bad were a thin
pillow, a quilt, a sheet, one setting of silverware, one paring knife,
a small sauce pan, a partial roll of toilet paper, a second pair of
shoes, and sweater. The rest was clothes. In one of the boxes was my
computer, and in the other important papers and books.
I acquired a few things here and there, but until we had the first
baby, no move occupied more than one car (Subaru) load.
Andrea-the-light
tracy
Warning:42 year old women remembering her youth up ahead...kinda OT
Oh Boy I moved alot after college...it was such a great adventure. The
first really big one was from SC to what I tought was gonna be
California ;-) My VW Rabbit didn't fair to well in the Rocky Mountains
and this was after some break down in Kansas (can't even remember
now...too old <g>) Anyhoo, I just desided to call a friend of a friend
in Breckenridge and ask if I could stay on her floor until I found a
place to live. Thats what I did...I found a place to live in a couple
of days, got a job and had the best time all winter long, skiing, silk
screening t-shirts and meeting boys ;-) The last boy I met ended up to
be my husband that is right upstairs now! I guess I was meant to have a
broken down old car in Colorado with out even a place to live, a can
opener or a Toaster and I wouldn't trade it for the world. So I guess
my recommendation to Kirby is go and start the next big adventure...who
knows what you'll need...but one thing is for sure with the love and
support of friends and family you'll always be fine. Have Fun and good
luck!
Peace~Love~Free~
Tracy
Oh Boy I moved alot after college...it was such a great adventure. The
first really big one was from SC to what I tought was gonna be
California ;-) My VW Rabbit didn't fair to well in the Rocky Mountains
and this was after some break down in Kansas (can't even remember
now...too old <g>) Anyhoo, I just desided to call a friend of a friend
in Breckenridge and ask if I could stay on her floor until I found a
place to live. Thats what I did...I found a place to live in a couple
of days, got a job and had the best time all winter long, skiing, silk
screening t-shirts and meeting boys ;-) The last boy I met ended up to
be my husband that is right upstairs now! I guess I was meant to have a
broken down old car in Colorado with out even a place to live, a can
opener or a Toaster and I wouldn't trade it for the world. So I guess
my recommendation to Kirby is go and start the next big adventure...who
knows what you'll need...but one thing is for sure with the love and
support of friends and family you'll always be fine. Have Fun and good
luck!
Peace~Love~Free~
Tracy
--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
>
> -=-Does he already have an
> apartment arranged, or does he have to find something once he is
> there? -=-
>
> He's corresponding with an agent who has a website with photos. All
> new deal. <g>
>
> -=-He probably has to pay taxes on the 1500.00.-=-
>
> Thanks for that reminder!!
>
> Sandra
>
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>
emmy
i too have moved alot (and traveled light all around the world). i would suggest taking only (large) things that are "worth it" to him=stereo etc, in comparrison $1500 on a trailer could buy you a whole lot of groovy goods at a second hand store which are always abundant in a college town. dollar stores are great for setting up house cheap too-they aren't all that tacky either! with creativity you can turn any thrift/$ store find into a one of a kind cool must have.
good luck kirby on your adventure!
emmy
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good luck kirby on your adventure!
emmy
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cyrusnmayasmama
The one thing that I remember specifically was that my Mom bought me a
brand new set of towels. There were plenty of old grubby ones I could
have packed, but my Mom was insistent that I have new towels -
something she herself considered a luxury! They were green and I still
have them 20 years later. I did appreciate the sentiment.
As far as the moving allowance goes I would do all I could to keep the
costs of the physical move low because there will be plenty of little
expenses that will add up when setting up in a new home- especially
for the first time, i.e., a broom, mop, toilet plunger, toilet brush,
trash cans, lightbulbs, and pantry supplies like spices and such.
Although I know I ate a lot of rice cakes and peanutbutter and pizza
bought by the slice!- Alyse
Best of luck! - I'm excited just thinking about it. I love moving to
new places and hear that Austin is good fun!
brand new set of towels. There were plenty of old grubby ones I could
have packed, but my Mom was insistent that I have new towels -
something she herself considered a luxury! They were green and I still
have them 20 years later. I did appreciate the sentiment.
As far as the moving allowance goes I would do all I could to keep the
costs of the physical move low because there will be plenty of little
expenses that will add up when setting up in a new home- especially
for the first time, i.e., a broom, mop, toilet plunger, toilet brush,
trash cans, lightbulbs, and pantry supplies like spices and such.
Although I know I ate a lot of rice cakes and peanutbutter and pizza
bought by the slice!- Alyse
Best of luck! - I'm excited just thinking about it. I love moving to
new places and hear that Austin is good fun!
Robyn L. Coburn
I have never lived at a single address for more than two years until I
married and have been here for 10 years.
One of the things I did when I moved from Australia to Texas was to pack up
all my books into boxes and leave them with my best friend. When I was
settled in Los Angeles, she shipped them to me (on a pallet). But the key
point is that they were pre-packed into liftable sized boxes.
When I travelled in Australia, I always took those things that had personal
meaning to me - my books and my sewing machine. How quickly is Kirby to
report for work upon arrival? Perhaps he would need an iron if he has to
iron his work shirt. I would pack a towel for the shower and my personal
toiletries.
If Austin is anything like where I live (close to a college) Kirby might be
able to furnish a lot of his apartment via the back alleys of apartment
buildings. We are constantly noticing very nice furniture put out back for
every room, and indeed have done the same ourselves. One day I saw a
distinctively shaped sofa in one alley, while the matching loveseat was in
another alley - I imagine that the set was originally put out together but
has been split up and recycled around different apartments over time. When I
put out our old dining set, someone approached me even as I was carrying it
out and wanted it. It's better than Craig's List, our alley!
Austin has plenty of thrift stores as I recall as well as an artsy vibe. I
remember one slightly shady character who nonetheless could tell me where I
could find just about anything I needed for the film I was working on,
including a stuffed armadillo for very little money - Virgil Borders at All
American Recycling. He had a junk yard that was one of the exterior
locations for "Love and a .45". Everyone was extremely helpful to the film.
The Department of Roads (or whatever it was called) made up a bunch of
custom road signs for me, and when I went to ask how much they cost, were
surprised and said they were free! Now that doesn't happen in Los Angeles.
I would always say to have a microwave, but sometimes (rarely) they are
included in apartments. It is not something I would haul, but buy locally.
It's not like he's moving to the back of beyond. He's moving to a fairly
cosmopolitan little city.
Robyn L. Coburn.
married and have been here for 10 years.
One of the things I did when I moved from Australia to Texas was to pack up
all my books into boxes and leave them with my best friend. When I was
settled in Los Angeles, she shipped them to me (on a pallet). But the key
point is that they were pre-packed into liftable sized boxes.
When I travelled in Australia, I always took those things that had personal
meaning to me - my books and my sewing machine. How quickly is Kirby to
report for work upon arrival? Perhaps he would need an iron if he has to
iron his work shirt. I would pack a towel for the shower and my personal
toiletries.
If Austin is anything like where I live (close to a college) Kirby might be
able to furnish a lot of his apartment via the back alleys of apartment
buildings. We are constantly noticing very nice furniture put out back for
every room, and indeed have done the same ourselves. One day I saw a
distinctively shaped sofa in one alley, while the matching loveseat was in
another alley - I imagine that the set was originally put out together but
has been split up and recycled around different apartments over time. When I
put out our old dining set, someone approached me even as I was carrying it
out and wanted it. It's better than Craig's List, our alley!
Austin has plenty of thrift stores as I recall as well as an artsy vibe. I
remember one slightly shady character who nonetheless could tell me where I
could find just about anything I needed for the film I was working on,
including a stuffed armadillo for very little money - Virgil Borders at All
American Recycling. He had a junk yard that was one of the exterior
locations for "Love and a .45". Everyone was extremely helpful to the film.
The Department of Roads (or whatever it was called) made up a bunch of
custom road signs for me, and when I went to ask how much they cost, were
surprised and said they were free! Now that doesn't happen in Los Angeles.
I would always say to have a microwave, but sometimes (rarely) they are
included in apartments. It is not something I would haul, but buy locally.
It's not like he's moving to the back of beyond. He's moving to a fairly
cosmopolitan little city.
Robyn L. Coburn.
juillet727
My first thought was an electric rice steamer and 2 lamps. One for the
bedroom and one for the living room, just in case there's no overhead
lighting. A tea kettle helps too, for instant noodles or coffee/tea.
For those first days in a new place.
~~Julie
bedroom and one for the living room, just in case there's no overhead
lighting. A tea kettle helps too, for instant noodles or coffee/tea.
For those first days in a new place.
~~Julie
jenbgosh
Ooooh, moving is so exciting, and I'm so happy for Kirby. I've
heard Austin is way cool. (Not weather cool, but groovy cool.)
How is Mom holding up? <g>
I agree with the "pack what you absoutely need to get through the
day, buy the rest there" crowd.
Also seconding the very good idea to have one box or bag with the
stuff you are going to want right away like toilet paper, soap,
shampoo, toothbrush, towel/washcloth, light bulbs, sheets (if there
is a mattress to put them on!) pajamas. Be sure to label this and
all boxes.
The last time we moved we got a book (I think it was put out by a
real estate company) that went through the best way to pack. It
will cover more than Kirby needs, as it talks about moving
appliances and all that stuff, but very good tips nevertheless.
(Like have cleaning supplies in a caddy nearby as you pack, and
clean your stuff before you pack it. It's so much nicer having
clean stuff in a new apartment!) Lots of realtor websites have
packing tips.
heard Austin is way cool. (Not weather cool, but groovy cool.)
How is Mom holding up? <g>
I agree with the "pack what you absoutely need to get through the
day, buy the rest there" crowd.
Also seconding the very good idea to have one box or bag with the
stuff you are going to want right away like toilet paper, soap,
shampoo, toothbrush, towel/washcloth, light bulbs, sheets (if there
is a mattress to put them on!) pajamas. Be sure to label this and
all boxes.
The last time we moved we got a book (I think it was put out by a
real estate company) that went through the best way to pack. It
will cover more than Kirby needs, as it talks about moving
appliances and all that stuff, but very good tips nevertheless.
(Like have cleaning supplies in a caddy nearby as you pack, and
clean your stuff before you pack it. It's so much nicer having
clean stuff in a new apartment!) Lots of realtor websites have
packing tips.
[email protected]
On our last move, we were in our house for several weeks before our
belongings arrived. We didn't have beds and what worked for us was to buy a couple
of queen size air mattresses. If it's going to take a while to find beds,
they come in very handy.
Then they can be stored in a closet and when mom comes to visit, Kirby can
sleep on an air mattress and she can have his bed! <g>
Gail
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belongings arrived. We didn't have beds and what worked for us was to buy a couple
of queen size air mattresses. If it's going to take a while to find beds,
they come in very handy.
Then they can be stored in a closet and when mom comes to visit, Kirby can
sleep on an air mattress and she can have his bed! <g>
Gail
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Sandra Dodd
-=-How is Mom holding up? <g>-=-
It's very odd.
We've seen friends and acquaintances and relatives push their 18 year
olds out (or start pushing when they're sixteen, with pressure to
apply to college or investigate military opportunities), and then
either say "bye bye" or "pay rent" on the should-be-happy 18th birthday.
We didn't do that. I didn't really know what to expect.
Kirby turns 21 July 29 and has to be at work in Austin August 27.
I feel excited and afraid and happy and sad.
It's balancing out.
Sandra
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It's very odd.
We've seen friends and acquaintances and relatives push their 18 year
olds out (or start pushing when they're sixteen, with pressure to
apply to college or investigate military opportunities), and then
either say "bye bye" or "pay rent" on the should-be-happy 18th birthday.
We didn't do that. I didn't really know what to expect.
Kirby turns 21 July 29 and has to be at work in Austin August 27.
I feel excited and afraid and happy and sad.
It's balancing out.
Sandra
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Amy Graber
Hi all,
I'm normally a lurker but being a Navy brat, I do have a little
experience moving, so I thought I'd share! Often when we moved it would
take a day or two for the electricity to actually get turned on so pack
like your camping (flashlights, cooler for food, coleman stove,
utensils, toilet paper, stuff like that).
As far as packing goes, my dad was a great packer! He's an engineer so
he has great spatial abilities! Always good to find someone like that
to help out! That can make a huge difference at how much you fit in the
van/u-haul!
I've heard Austin is a great city! There's a cool bat bridge
<http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=122> there. Tell him to
enjoy this adventure!
amy g
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I'm normally a lurker but being a Navy brat, I do have a little
experience moving, so I thought I'd share! Often when we moved it would
take a day or two for the electricity to actually get turned on so pack
like your camping (flashlights, cooler for food, coleman stove,
utensils, toilet paper, stuff like that).
As far as packing goes, my dad was a great packer! He's an engineer so
he has great spatial abilities! Always good to find someone like that
to help out! That can make a huge difference at how much you fit in the
van/u-haul!
I've heard Austin is a great city! There's a cool bat bridge
<http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=122> there. Tell him to
enjoy this adventure!
amy g
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[email protected]
In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:20:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Sandra@... writes:
I feel excited and afraid and happy and sad
___
I'm hoping I can have that excited and happy feeling when my kids leave. I
know already that I'll have the afraid and sad. Brenna is almost 18 and
plans to go somewhere away from home for college next fall.
While trying to figure out best ways for her to apply to colleges, I asked
her yesterday how important it was for her to go next fall on a scale of 1 -
10. She said a 9. I wish that it was not so soon but she is so excited about
a new phase in her life and for her that means not so close to home.
It will be different than Kirby going because she will probably come home
during breaks but still...I'm not ready yet. I'll do everything I can, though,
to help her make it happen.
I'm glad that you are having those balanced feelings and hope as the year
goes on that I can get to that point. I remember when I left New Mexico with a
U-Haul behind me and such a feeling of adventure. I don't remember giving
my parents much thought at all and only now do I realize how difficult it must
have been for them.
Gail
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Sandra@... writes:
I feel excited and afraid and happy and sad
___
I'm hoping I can have that excited and happy feeling when my kids leave. I
know already that I'll have the afraid and sad. Brenna is almost 18 and
plans to go somewhere away from home for college next fall.
While trying to figure out best ways for her to apply to colleges, I asked
her yesterday how important it was for her to go next fall on a scale of 1 -
10. She said a 9. I wish that it was not so soon but she is so excited about
a new phase in her life and for her that means not so close to home.
It will be different than Kirby going because she will probably come home
during breaks but still...I'm not ready yet. I'll do everything I can, though,
to help her make it happen.
I'm glad that you are having those balanced feelings and hope as the year
goes on that I can get to that point. I remember when I left New Mexico with a
U-Haul behind me and such a feeling of adventure. I don't remember giving
my parents much thought at all and only now do I realize how difficult it must
have been for them.
Gail
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com
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[email protected]
> But the suggestions of the pod-shipping or moving company are great,The pod company we used was Smart Move www.gosmartmove.com We were
> too.
> I thought he should just take what will fit in his car and take a
> futon to sleep on and decide when he gets there what he needs and
> wants and get it later, but I'm passing all these things to him and
> THANK YOU ALL.
>
> Any little thing anyone thinks of would be appreciated.
>
> We will face the difficult decisions about which DVDs he takes. <g>
> Music is easier now, with iTunes and Mp3 players, at least.
happy with them for our (much larger!) move last summer.
If he can fit his basic electronic needs, clothing, and spare items from
the family home into his car he could probably get everything else
cheaply at yard sales or thrift stores or Ikea, thus saving any other
moving costs. Or if the family homes have extra stuff the young men can
take, they could split a moving container. I wouldn't take the trailer
or van unless someone is going with them to bring it back.
I like thinking about this kind of thing, so after thinking about my
first apartment, here's my list of first apartment basics:
Stock pot w/removable strainer, 2qt pot, large skillet, stirfry pan,
9x11 pan, pizza pan, spatula, cooking spoon(s), tongs, potholder, dish
towels, set of 4+ dishes and cutlery and glasses and mugs, dish drainer,
large and small mixing/serving bowl, large and small sharp knife, bread
knife, large cutting board, vegetable peeler, grater, can opener,
toaster, blender or food processor/blender combo, coffee making
equipment of choice, covered pyrex casserole, microwave (if not in
apartment)
Futon or air mattress, pillows, sheets, duvet, lamp, clothing, hangers,
sleep mask in case there are no curtains (voice of experience), ear
plugs in case it's a party complex (voice of experience again!), laundry
basket
Toiletries, plunger, towels, bath mat
Swiffer sweep&vac for hard floors (can use w/o vac for sweeping, w/vac
for crumbs, and w/wet cloth for mopping), vacuum for carpet
computer, television, stereo, dvd player, game console
couch, chair(s), side table(s), dining room table&chairs, bookshelves,
tv stand, dresser, bed, shower curtain, window coverings (half the
places I've rented had none)
100-hour+ DVR and/or Netflix subscription so he doesn't take your dvds ;-)
Best of luck to Kirby as he steps into this new adventure!
Alyson
Pam Tellew
<<<<The one thing that I remember specifically was that my Mom bought me a
brand new set of towels. There were plenty of old grubby ones I could
have packed, but my Mom was insistent that I have new towels -
something she herself considered a luxury! They were green and I still
have them 20 years later. I did appreciate the sentiment.>>>>
My mom loaded me up with lots of her old dishes and cookware. I
still have lots of it 28 years later, and being the sentimental fool
I am, I really liked that the things I used every day were things
that had been in the family and had some history. This was when I
went away to college and moved to my first apartment . My parents
drove the car that pulled the little trailer. Then they took me to
the grocery store and helped me load my refrigerator and cabinets
with staples. I remember feeling a little eager to get rid of them
and start life on my own but extremely grateful for their
help. Somehow the material things gave me an emotional cushion to
land on while being on my own for the first time.
Pam T., still living (almost) in Berkeley 28 years later...
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brand new set of towels. There were plenty of old grubby ones I could
have packed, but my Mom was insistent that I have new towels -
something she herself considered a luxury! They were green and I still
have them 20 years later. I did appreciate the sentiment.>>>>
My mom loaded me up with lots of her old dishes and cookware. I
still have lots of it 28 years later, and being the sentimental fool
I am, I really liked that the things I used every day were things
that had been in the family and had some history. This was when I
went away to college and moved to my first apartment . My parents
drove the car that pulled the little trailer. Then they took me to
the grocery store and helped me load my refrigerator and cabinets
with staples. I remember feeling a little eager to get rid of them
and start life on my own but extremely grateful for their
help. Somehow the material things gave me an emotional cushion to
land on while being on my own for the first time.
Pam T., still living (almost) in Berkeley 28 years later...
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Pam Tellew
Oh, yeah...a shower curtain! You don't need to take it with you, but
you'll need one pretty early on in most places!
Pam T.
you'll need one pretty early on in most places!
Pam T.
Krisula Moyer
Take what you'd need if you were camping and anything you absolutely love.
Sell the rest at a yard sale and buy what you need (maybe at yard sales)
when you get there. Living on the minimum temporarily is a good way to
figure out what you really like to have. You may find that you don't want
to replace the stuff you left behind but instead want to decorate your life
with different stuff. You can always have your mom send you something you
miss. In fact, if it seems like too much trouble to have someone send it to
you it is probably not worth bringing.
FWIW, my husband has a completely different take. He likes to bring as much
as possible on the company's dime cuz "They'll pay to move you but they
won't pay to buy you new stuff." We actually live somewhere between these
two philosophies. Good luck and have fun!
Krisula
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Sell the rest at a yard sale and buy what you need (maybe at yard sales)
when you get there. Living on the minimum temporarily is a good way to
figure out what you really like to have. You may find that you don't want
to replace the stuff you left behind but instead want to decorate your life
with different stuff. You can always have your mom send you something you
miss. In fact, if it seems like too much trouble to have someone send it to
you it is probably not worth bringing.
FWIW, my husband has a completely different take. He likes to bring as much
as possible on the company's dime cuz "They'll pay to move you but they
won't pay to buy you new stuff." We actually live somewhere between these
two philosophies. Good luck and have fun!
Krisula
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Nancy Wooton
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:11 PM, cyrusnmayasmama wrote:
Nancy (but then, what do I know -- haven't moved in 19 years)
> The one thing that I remember specifically was that my Mom bought me aTowels could be used to cushion breakable items during the move, too.
> brand new set of towels. There were plenty of old grubby ones I could
> have packed, but my Mom was insistent that I have new towels -
> something she herself considered a luxury!
Nancy (but then, what do I know -- haven't moved in 19 years)
huntmom1996
***Lots of realtor websites have
change of address tips in a packet.
Peace~Jessica (who just bought a house and kinds freaks at the thought
of staying somewhere for more than three years...)
> packing tips.***The post office is a good resource for this, as well, giving moving and
change of address tips in a packet.
Peace~Jessica (who just bought a house and kinds freaks at the thought
of staying somewhere for more than three years...)
cyrusnmayasmama
> Towels could be used to cushion breakable items during the move, too.Just yesterday I opened a box that had stayed packed for the last 2
moves (being in temporary rental houses I didn't want to unpack
everything) and I found the cloth table napkins that matched the
dishes that I replaced last year!LOL -Alyse
Cally Brown
Hi Sandra,
Fortunately for me, they all live close - the furtherest lives 2 1/2
hours away. My eldest son did do a 2 year stint at the bottom of the
South Island of New Zealand at one stage (Winton, near Invercargil, for
those who love to pull out the maps and follow things) and that was hard.
Yeah, it is exciting and happy - and scary and sad. Such a mix of
feelings. But because you have been the sort of mother you have, they
will keep in touch, and visit and you will be welcome at their place.
Phones and e-mails and msm and texting and even an occasional snail mail
letter - all keep me close to mine.
My #2 son Steve (23), moved 2 1/2 hours away at the beginning of the
year to start a degree in Performance Jazz (saxophone, and also now
taking up flute). One of his best friends, James (21) (homeschooled) has
gone too, and they are living together, along with Steve's partner,
Heidi (also home/unschooled). Last week my youngest son Jeff (17), had
to perform in the New Zealand Brass Band National competitions near
where the kids are living. It's a tiny flat but we were welcome to stay.
We had been very very busy for the previous month, and I had not been
looking forward to this trip. We got to the flat just after lunch and my
son and his girlfriend weren't there but Jeff and I just spent the
afternoon hanging out with James and his visiting girlfriend. By the
time Jeff had had his 2 hour band practice, Steve and Heidi were home
and all 6 of us went to the movies together (Blades of Glory). The next
morning was the competition (or Jeff's part of it) and then we went back
to the flat to get our things and say goodbye. Except it was a grey,
rainy day outside and inside we were so welcome, and the talk was good.
I spent a couple of hours talking to Steve, a couple more with Heidi,
James tore himself away from his girlfriend (schooled) a couple of times
to come sit next to me and have a hug (the schooled girlfriend seemed a
little stunned but was ok about it!) - so eventually we got away about
5.30. It was the most relaxing, lovely two days!
So what I discovered is that though I have 'lost' a son and 2 friends -
I have gained an extra home. I felt completely welcome and at home in
their flat (apartment?) How many 55yo women can say that? And it's
because of unschooling.
Last night all three arrived here, refugees from the storms in the north
- they had no power water or heating up there so all three came here.
They chose to come here rather than to the homes of either of the
others. I am soooooooo lucky :-)
I reckon that's the way it will be for you. And you know, although I
miss them so very much, at times like these, when they choose me over
other options, that just fills me with such joy.
Cally
> I feel excited and afraid and happy and sad.I know that feeling. I have 4 sons and all but one have left home.
>
Fortunately for me, they all live close - the furtherest lives 2 1/2
hours away. My eldest son did do a 2 year stint at the bottom of the
South Island of New Zealand at one stage (Winton, near Invercargil, for
those who love to pull out the maps and follow things) and that was hard.
Yeah, it is exciting and happy - and scary and sad. Such a mix of
feelings. But because you have been the sort of mother you have, they
will keep in touch, and visit and you will be welcome at their place.
Phones and e-mails and msm and texting and even an occasional snail mail
letter - all keep me close to mine.
My #2 son Steve (23), moved 2 1/2 hours away at the beginning of the
year to start a degree in Performance Jazz (saxophone, and also now
taking up flute). One of his best friends, James (21) (homeschooled) has
gone too, and they are living together, along with Steve's partner,
Heidi (also home/unschooled). Last week my youngest son Jeff (17), had
to perform in the New Zealand Brass Band National competitions near
where the kids are living. It's a tiny flat but we were welcome to stay.
We had been very very busy for the previous month, and I had not been
looking forward to this trip. We got to the flat just after lunch and my
son and his girlfriend weren't there but Jeff and I just spent the
afternoon hanging out with James and his visiting girlfriend. By the
time Jeff had had his 2 hour band practice, Steve and Heidi were home
and all 6 of us went to the movies together (Blades of Glory). The next
morning was the competition (or Jeff's part of it) and then we went back
to the flat to get our things and say goodbye. Except it was a grey,
rainy day outside and inside we were so welcome, and the talk was good.
I spent a couple of hours talking to Steve, a couple more with Heidi,
James tore himself away from his girlfriend (schooled) a couple of times
to come sit next to me and have a hug (the schooled girlfriend seemed a
little stunned but was ok about it!) - so eventually we got away about
5.30. It was the most relaxing, lovely two days!
So what I discovered is that though I have 'lost' a son and 2 friends -
I have gained an extra home. I felt completely welcome and at home in
their flat (apartment?) How many 55yo women can say that? And it's
because of unschooling.
Last night all three arrived here, refugees from the storms in the north
- they had no power water or heating up there so all three came here.
They chose to come here rather than to the homes of either of the
others. I am soooooooo lucky :-)
I reckon that's the way it will be for you. And you know, although I
miss them so very much, at times like these, when they choose me over
other options, that just fills me with such joy.
Cally
Liz in AZ
One more vote for taking the minimum--electronics, clothes, bedding,
personal items that he'll need for it to feel like home--and buying
the rest in Austin.
I would specifically caution against moving anything really bulky,
like a massive sofa or entertainment unit. I've known more than one
person who was thrilled to get something like that free from a family
member, only to discover there was no way to get it up the stairs/in
the elevator/through the door of the new apartment.
$1500 may sound like a lot, but getting set up can be expensive, so I
would spend as little of it on the actual getting-there as possible.
Utilities often require a deposit for first-timers and have turn-on
fees, there will be a deposit and first month's rent on the apartment,
and there may be a fee for a new driver's license/vehicle registration
(which he'll likely be required to get, by law). He'll need to make an
epic trip to the grocery store and Target for things like dish soap,
laundry detergent, sponges, kitchen towels, other cleaning supplies,
salt, pepper, other basic spices... Bear in mind, too, that his first
paycheck likely won't come for 3-4 weeks after his start date,
depending on the payroll cycle.
Mostly, though, I'd say have fun with it! He can't possibly leave
anything behind that couldn't be replaced, mailed, or retrieved on a
Cannonball Run trip home. If he finds himself late at night with a can
of refrieds and no can opener, well, time to hit the 24-hour Walmart.
Liz in AZ
personal items that he'll need for it to feel like home--and buying
the rest in Austin.
I would specifically caution against moving anything really bulky,
like a massive sofa or entertainment unit. I've known more than one
person who was thrilled to get something like that free from a family
member, only to discover there was no way to get it up the stairs/in
the elevator/through the door of the new apartment.
$1500 may sound like a lot, but getting set up can be expensive, so I
would spend as little of it on the actual getting-there as possible.
Utilities often require a deposit for first-timers and have turn-on
fees, there will be a deposit and first month's rent on the apartment,
and there may be a fee for a new driver's license/vehicle registration
(which he'll likely be required to get, by law). He'll need to make an
epic trip to the grocery store and Target for things like dish soap,
laundry detergent, sponges, kitchen towels, other cleaning supplies,
salt, pepper, other basic spices... Bear in mind, too, that his first
paycheck likely won't come for 3-4 weeks after his start date,
depending on the payroll cycle.
Mostly, though, I'd say have fun with it! He can't possibly leave
anything behind that couldn't be replaced, mailed, or retrieved on a
Cannonball Run trip home. If he finds himself late at night with a can
of refrieds and no can opener, well, time to hit the 24-hour Walmart.
Liz in AZ