[email protected]

Hi--

Eight new people joined the list kind of all-of-a-sudden, which is fine for
me but unusual for the list, so first, welcome! And second, was this group
listed in a newsletter or something? I'm curious about the quick influx!

For all newer members, if you go to the group's yahoogroups site, there are
photos of lots of the regulars (or of their children, or both) and a
collection of handwriting samples (so far, Dan's and mine! <g>), and lots of
archived discussion.

Have fun!

Sandra

joanna514

This may be my doing.
I felt compelled to disagree with the main voices over at the
unschooling.com group when they started talking about how great and
peaceful the board has become since Dec.
I guess I've stirred up quite a fuss. I can't believe the level one
woman has taken it too. I apparently am a spy, there to cause
trouble. Someone came on in the middle of it all and said they
hadn't been there in a long time and didn't recognize any names. I
told her she may find some familiar ones here, and gave the link.
I guess some more followed.
That list has really started to bother me. The main voices give
advice and pats on the back, and do not reach beyond their comfort
zone. I can leave and come here to stretch my mind(and was told to
do so!) but, I don't like the unschooling.com name left for them to
be an "authority" on.
It's very refreshing to read a post there with substance, but they
seem few and far between.
They have created this whole "out" if you have a child or family
history of OCD.
Anyway, I'm sure you're sick of this frustration, and I don't mean to
bring it here, but I wanted to explain the possible influx, and vent
a little.
Joanna(the spy reporting back)

--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> Hi--
>
> Eight new people joined the list kind of all-of-a-sudden, which is
fine for
> me but unusual for the list, so first, welcome! And second, was
this group
> listed in a newsletter or something? I'm curious about the quick
influx!
>
> For all newer members, if you go to the group's yahoogroups site,
there are
> photos of lots of the regulars (or of their children, or both) and
a
> collection of handwriting samples (so far, Dan's and mine! <g>),
and lots of
> archived discussion.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Sandra

[email protected]

> Joanna(the spy reporting back)

I left that list when Sandra started this one. It really disturbed me
that so many found comfort in listing things they thought were wrong
about their children. I've actually felt a little sick over it, but
ever since I left I've wondered if there was anyone still there who was a
REAL voice for unschooling. I'm glad to hear there are a few of you
left, fighting the fight. I'm sorry I bailed out. Maybe if I kept a
bottle of antacid beside me I could stand it, but I'm not sure.

I'm sorry to be mean but there is one there who is such a nut, I was
afraid I'd end up loosing it and expressing my thoughts about why her
poor children were so unhappy. Didn't know if they'd let me stay on the
list in jail.

Deb L, still feeling queasy.

Tia Leschke

>This may be my doing.
>I felt compelled to disagree with the main voices over at the
>unschooling.com group when they started talking about how great and
>peaceful the board has become since Dec.
>I guess I've stirred up quite a fuss. I can't believe the level one
>woman has taken it too. I apparently am a spy, there to cause
>trouble.

Hey, no fair! *I'm* the spy. I'm only on there so I can report back here
on what they're doing there.......sigh.

>That list has really started to bother me. The main voices give
>advice and pats on the back, and do not reach beyond their comfort
>zone. I can leave and come here to stretch my mind(and was told to
>do so!) but, I don't like the unschooling.com name left for them to
>be an "authority" on.

That's one of the main reasons I'm there as well.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

[email protected]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:18:42 -0700 ddzimlew@... writes:
> I'm glad to hear there are a few of you
> left, fighting the fight. I'm sorry I bailed out.

Yeah, I feel sort of the same way. I just got overwhelmed and went nomail
there for a while, and every time I thought about going back I couldn't
seem to do it

> I'm sorry to be mean but there is one there who is such a nut, I was
> afraid I'd end up loosing it and expressing my thoughts about why
> her poor children were so unhappy. Didn't know if they'd let me stay
> on the list in jail.

You know, when I was feeling sort of angry at thre world right after my
mom died, I was really good on that list. I *wanted* to argue, and that
was a perfect venue, because I could immerse myself in all that crap and
feel like I was using my angry feelings to do something positive.

Now I just feel sad, and being there made me feel more sad.

Dar
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-No Joanna, it was my doing. Inadvertantly.
I'm glad there are a few other voices so I'm not alone. I questioned
a person that said something about if her child "got behind" she
would do something about it.
Sheesh.
When I called that view into question, against the views of
unschooling, it started the whole mud slinging battle again.
What an idiot I am to think that someone over there could be
questioned and actually give some thoughtful answers without feeling
attacked.
I can't believe the fallout from my post.
I should know better. But like you I can not stomache the thought
of "do whatever works for your family"
Why even have Unschooling as a concept if we're just goint to tell
everyone that line of BS.
It's not right that they've ousted the clearest voice on the planet
about unschooling (Yes, Sandra)
and the voices that have taken over are giving lousy advice to people.
Ren




-- In AlwaysLearning@y..., "joanna514" <Wilkinson6@m...> wrote:
> This may be my doing.
> I felt compelled to disagree with the main voices over at the
> unschooling.com group when they started talking about how great and
> peaceful the board has become since Dec.
> I guess I've stirred up quite a fuss. I can't believe the level
one
> woman has taken it too. I apparently am a spy, there to cause
> trouble. Someone came on in the middle of it all and said they
> hadn't been there in a long time and didn't recognize any names. I
> told her she may find some familiar ones here, and gave the link.
> I guess some more followed.
> That list has really started to bother me. The main voices give
> advice and pats on the back, and do not reach beyond their comfort
> zone. I can leave and come here to stretch my mind(and was told to
> do so!) but, I don't like the unschooling.com name left for them to
> be an "authority" on.
> It's very refreshing to read a post there with substance, but they
> seem few and far between.
> They have created this whole "out" if you have a child or family
> history of OCD.
> Anyway, I'm sure you're sick of this frustration, and I don't mean
to
> bring it here, but I wanted to explain the possible influx, and
vent
> a little.
> Joanna(the spy reporting back)
>
> --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> > Hi--
> >
> > Eight new people joined the list kind of all-of-a-sudden, which
is
> fine for
> > me but unusual for the list, so first, welcome! And second, was
> this group
> > listed in a newsletter or something? I'm curious about the quick
> influx!
> >
> > For all newer members, if you go to the group's yahoogroups site,
> there are
> > photos of lots of the regulars (or of their children, or both)
and
> a
> > collection of handwriting samples (so far, Dan's and mine! <g>),
> and lots of
> > archived discussion.
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> > Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
>I should know better. But like you I can not stomache the thought
>of "do whatever works for your family"

I've got no problem with that. I just have a problem with calling it
unschooling. <G> And *that's* what they don't seem to get. No one is
saying they shouldn't do what's best for their family, even if it isn't
really unschooling. We're just trying to get across that it isn't
unschooling just because you want to call it that.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

jaypach

Although a long-time lurker, I never know about the photos. It's
going to take a few weeks to get all my mental pictures of you
regular posters rearranged. And my husband doesn't have a
beard, am I allowed to still be a member? <g>

Julie


> For all newer members, if you go to the group's yahoogroups
site, there are
> photos of lots of the regulars (or of their children, or both)

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/26/02 8:04:53 AM, Wilkinson6@... writes:

<< I felt compelled to disagree with the main voices over at the
unschooling.com group when they started talking about how great and
peaceful the board has become since Dec. >>

You mean the list, not the [message] board, I'm guessing. Because the
central operations, the website, seem very active and pretty productive these
days!

<<Anyway, I'm sure you're sick of this frustration, and I don't mean to
bring it here, but I wanted to explain the possible influx, and vent
a little.>>

I've never peeked back in there since I left. It was too horrible to be
believed, but this list is nicer, and if we consider it temporary and just a
happy party, we can not get so attached to it that it's worth fighting over.
If this group gets too difficult we can split it or abandon or
re-name/regroup after a week or two's "time out." There are lots of
solutions, I suppose.

But here's a sad little report on what used to be the Glorious Hive of
Unschooling, and that is the AOL homeschooling area. It used to be bigger
and better than (or as good as, but with clear, quick energy) all of
unschooling.com on a good day. Nowadays the unschooling folders are light,
lame, and apparently peopled by few to no unschoolers.

That's another example of a few jealous hot-heads running off the people who
were actually dedicated to helping other people learn about unschooling.

Sandra

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/26/02 9:30:43 AM, ddzimlew@... writes:

<< I'm sorry to be mean but there is one there who is such a nut, I was
afraid I'd end up loosing it and expressing my thoughts about why her
poor children were so unhappy. Didn't know if they'd let me stay on the
list in jail. >>

I think I DID say "I'd be depressed too," and look! I'm not in jail!

(Come to think of it, though, I have in the past month consumed both Tums AND
AlkaSeltzer.***)

Sandra

*** (neither because of online stuff--we have a stomach-sickening flu-thing
going aroun here <BWG>)

joanna514

.
>
> But here's a sad little report on what used to be the Glorious Hive
of
> Unschooling, and that is the AOL homeschooling area. It used to
be bigger
> and better than (or as good as, but with clear, quick energy) all
of
> unschooling.com on a good day. Nowadays the unschooling folders
are light,
> lame, and apparently peopled by few to no unschoolers.
>
> That's another example of a few jealous hot-heads running off the
people who
> were actually dedicated to helping other people learn about
unschooling.
>
> Sandra

I was one of those few and far between unschooler on the aol boards
up until last spring, when we switched to msn.
I miss P/CP, but the unschooling board was pretty lame even back then.
Joanna

[email protected]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:16:58 EST SandraDodd@... writes:

> I think I DID say "I'd be depressed too," and look! I'm not in
> jail!

Yes, you did!<g> I remember how I felt reading one of your replies to
some outrageous statement. You wrote clearly, expressed logic, talked
about working models, and I would think, ah, this one will bring some
kind of understanding...

I take comfort in believing there must have been an "innocent bystander"
or two who got it. I hope, anyway.

I have thought about it over and over again. Why would a person claim to
believe in something they clearly do not want to even try to understand?
It bothers me.
It's none of my business, but it bothers me.

Deb L

[email protected]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:13:53 -0700 freeform@... writes:

> You know, when I was feeling sort of angry at the world right after
> my
> mom died, I was really good on that list. I *wanted* to argue, and
> that
> was a perfect venue, because I could immerse myself in all that crap
> and
> feel like I was using my angry feelings to do something positive.


Dar,
I'm sorry about your mom. I know I heard she was sick, but I guess I
didn't hear that she had died. I lost my dad a year ago in November to
bone cancer. We took care of him at home and I still can't sleep nights
for thinking I can hear him. I know it's hard. You have my sympathy.
Deb L

[email protected]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 17:36:07 -0700 "Karin" <curtkar@...> writes:
>
> *Me* for one.
>
> Karin
> innocent bystander

Hi Karin,
But now you can't be an innocent bystander anymore.<g>

Now you're a REVOLUTIONARY!

Deb L

Tia Leschke

> I lost my dad a year ago in November to
>bone cancer. We took care of him at home and I still can't sleep nights
>for thinking I can hear him. I know it's hard. You have my sympathy.

Mine too. I lost my dad to bone cancer in 1967. It was quite a few years
before I stopped having dreams that he hadn't really died, that he'd really
been hidden by the CIA or something (not a chance) and that I'd see him
walking down the street. I think that happened a lot more than it might
have because I never had any kind of funeral, never saw a body or even
ashes. (He died in England, and the ashes were scattered over there.)
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Kathryn Orlinsky

> I should know better. But like you I can not stomache the thought
> of "do whatever works for your family"
> Why even have Unschooling as a concept if we're just goint to tell
> everyone that line of BS.

Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
parents.

Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
about religious dogma here. Or are we?

--
Kathy Orlinsky
mailto:kathyorlinsky@...

Nichoel

You know,
This entire conversation reminds me of another conversation on a state list I am on...

There the discussion is why people in AEP's choose to call it 'homeschooling' when it is most certainly NOT homeschooling, but is an AEP..And how this choice in terminology can harm people in the end, especially 'new' homeschoolers, by making them think an AEP is something it is most certainly, legally, and theoretically is NOT.

I see this situation as the same type of an issue: Sure, there are those who utilize SOME aspects of unschooling, but do not embrace unschooling in ALL aspects..There is nothing *wrong* with that, especially if that is what the best move for the family is..However that does not mean it IS unschooling. What is wrong with saying "we adapt some aspects of unschooling, and in other aspects we still utilize more conventional ideas and theories because that is what works best for us"?

I dont understand this anymore than I understand those who enroll their children in AEP's, and then want to say they are homeschooling...

Oh and I'm a newbie by the way, from the 'other' list ;)..New to homeschooling this year, 9 year old DD, and we just recently became unschoolers..

Nichoel

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From: Kathryn Orlinsky
To: AlwaysLearning
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Welcome new members (and question)


> I should know better. But like you I can not stomache the thought
> of "do whatever works for your family"
> Why even have Unschooling as a concept if we're just goint to tell
> everyone that line of BS.

Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
parents.

Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
about religious dogma here. Or are we?

--
Kathy Orlinsky
mailto:kathyorlinsky@...


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Karin

>I take comfort in believing there must have been an "innocent bystander"
>or two who got it. I hope, anyway.

>Deb L





*Me* for one.

Karin
innocent bystander


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Tia Leschke

>
>I dont understand this anymore than I understand those who enroll their
>children in AEP's, and then want to say they are homeschooling...

What are AEPs?

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Fetteroll

on 1/26/02 4:12 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> That's another example of a few jealous hot-heads running off the people who
> were actually dedicated to helping other people learn about unschooling.

It was more the behind the scenes take over of control that AOL did,
bringing in a hit team to make new rules and reorganize things without the
input the users and moderators used to have, to pull posts arbitrarily and
thus control what was being said about what was going on. I got the rare
privilege of being a volunteer Community whatever-it-was and got to witness
it going down behind the scenes. It was a bizarre invasion of incompetents
that, in retrospect, was undoubtedly a planned skillful attack to drive off
the established group. It worked very well.

*I* certainly wouldn't let hot heads drive me off ;-) But being gagged and
controlled by power wielding idiots, that got to be a bit too frustrating!

Joyce


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[email protected]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:16:24 -0800 Kathryn Orlinsky
<kathyorlinsky@...> writes:

> Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
> advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
> abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
> parents.
>
> Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who
> took
> control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
> differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not
> talking
> about religious dogma here. Or are we?
>
> Kathy Orlinsky

Not religious dogma! <g>
What was happening on that other list was a parent saying - Jonny *needs*
a chore chart every week and he has to do two hours of math a day, other
wise he just sits around and watches cartoons- Maybe this worked for the
parent in as much as it satisfied some need for control, but it doesn't
work in the context of unschooling if you believe children can pursue
their own interest and the pursuit leads to learning.

Deb L

Tia Leschke

>
>
>Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
>advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
>abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
>parents.

It's great advice. We should all be doing what's best for our families.


>Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
>control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
>differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
>about religious dogma here. Or are we?

There are a lot of words in use that aren't in the dictionary yet. How
about the person who first used the word? I *think* that was John Holt. I
doubt he would have agreed that the family that "unschools everything but
math" for instance, is unschooling, though they're partway there.

I do think it's important that people trying to "get" unschooling
understand that it has to do with who is making the choices, kids or
parents, and that it has to do with trusting kids to make good choices. If
it isn't at least that, then why not just throw the word away
completely? If a word means whatever the speaker (or writer) wants it to
mean, then it doesn't mean anything at all.
Tia

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
*********************************************
Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

Karin

Websters:
Revolutionist: One who believes in and works for radical change


Yes! I believe!
Working on radical changes in myself and family first.
Baby steps on changing (or challenging) others. <g>
But I'm getting there.

Karin





>Hi Karin,
>But now you can't be an innocent bystander anymore.<g>

>Now you're a REVOLUTIONARY!

>Deb L


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Cindy

Kathryn Orlinsky wrote:
>
> Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
> advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
> abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
> parents.
>
It can be a cop-out and probably is for some people. Rather than examining
beliefs about your child or your lifestyle one can shrug and say
"unschooling doesn't work for ____" where the blank is filled in either
by subject or by child's name.

> Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
> control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
> differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
> about religious dogma here. Or are we?
>
There is no definitive inerpretation of unschooling but some of the things
I have read on unschooling lists in the past may it clear to me that the
person really hasn't grasped the concept of unschooling. A good analogy
is if someone claimed to be a vegetarian but they ate meat on weekends or
when they weren't home. The above person certainly has vegetarian tendencies
but IMO they aren't a vegetarian. I have read/heard similar things from
supposed unschooling parents in the past.

--

Cindy Ferguson
crma@...

Nichoel

AEP=alternative education programs that are ran by the school districts =)

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From: Cindy
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Welcome new members (and question)




Kathryn Orlinsky wrote:
>
> Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
> advice? I'm assuming, of course, that 'what works' isn't illegal or
> abusive and that 'the family' includes the children as well as the
> parents.
>
It can be a cop-out and probably is for some people. Rather than examining
beliefs about your child or your lifestyle one can shrug and say
"unschooling doesn't work for ____" where the blank is filled in either
by subject or by child's name.

> Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
> control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
> differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
> about religious dogma here. Or are we?
>
There is no definitive inerpretation of unschooling but some of the things
I have read on unschooling lists in the past may it clear to me that the
person really hasn't grasped the concept of unschooling. A good analogy
is if someone claimed to be a vegetarian but they ate meat on weekends or
when they weren't home. The above person certainly has vegetarian tendencies
but IMO they aren't a vegetarian. I have read/heard similar things from
supposed unschooling parents in the past.

--

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crma@...

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Tia Leschke

>AEP=alternative education programs that are ran by the school districts =)

That's what I thought. I guess we aren't homeschooling, even though all
education decisions are made by us (really our son) and none of his
learning happens in school. Like "real" homeschoolers have to do in many
provinces and states, we have to keep a simple record of his learning and
forward it 3 times a year. This consists (in our case) of about a 1 page
description of books we've read to him, "educational TV shows he's watched,
and mention of a few conversations about various subjects we've had. I've
heard that the school district programs are much different than that in
some places, but I've also heard that there are lots much like ours. Why
do we do it? The computer, the internet access, and the cheque I just
received from the school district which will just about cover the cost of
the digital camera we just bought.
Tia

What you think of me is none of my business.
*********************************************************
Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/26/02 4:51:02 PM, ddzimlew@... writes:

<< I have thought about it over and over again. Why would a person claim to
believe in something they clearly do not want to even try to understand?
It bothers me.
It's none of my business, but it bothers me. >>

Why would it be none of your business?

If I claimed to be a native New Mexican, that would be the business of all
native New Mexicans, of those who might want to vote for or against me in
some local election (I'm not running for anything, ever, just used an
example), the business of my kids who might want to keep track of family
history, and the business of my SCA students who've been pressed to be honest.

I've lived here since I was six, about to turn seven. So even though I've
been here longer than some natives, I was NOT born here.

I think things like that can make a difference, and I hate bullshit.

So if I'm in the position of sharing a podium, committee, team, club, label
or airspace with someone who is bullshitting someone else, and whose
advice/noise could be detrimental to the label, cause, future of children
whose parents have come for help, I do personally have a REALLY hard time
thinking or saying or acting "whatever."

My bullshit detector is very sensitive and sometimes goes off loudly.

It's none of my business what people do in private, but what they say in my
presence, if it affects me or people I'm feeling protective of seems to be my
focal business at that moment.

(I'm undoubtedly worse than most about that. <g>)

Sandra

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In a message dated 1/26/02 5:17:17 PM, kathyorlinsky@... writes:

<< Why would "do whatever works for your family" be anything but good
advice? >>

Because people come to unschooling .com and sign up for its list to learn how
to unschool, and to get support to continue to do so.

<<Last time I checked, 'unschooling' was not in the dictionary. Who took
control of it 'as a concept'? Isn't it possible that there are
differing interpretations of the word 'unschooling'? We're not talking
about religious dogma here. Or are we?>>

There are differing interpretations, but they can only be expanded so far
before a person is recommending against unschooling. The range of
unschooling definitions and practices is still within a range.

Some of what's being recommended on AOL, for instance, is very much NOT
unschooling, so there's no reason to have it in the unschooling folder there.
And there is reason NOT to have it there. All unschoolers are aware of
curricular choices. Fewer curriculum-users are aware of unschooling.

Sandra

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In a message dated 1/26/02 5:49:14 PM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< It was a bizarre invasion of incompetents
that, in retrospect, was undoubtedly a planned skillful attack to drive off
the established group. It worked very well. >>

It was truly odd, that they put parents who weren't homeschooolers, and
homeschoolers who weren't unschoolers, in charge of something that had been
so vibrant.

Sandra

Nichoel

Tia,
I am in NO way passing judgment on anyone for using an AEP first of all, I think they are a WONDERFUL choice for some families.
The issue is they are not a homeschooling option legally. Legally they are overseen by the public school district.

Here is a great link that outlines the main legal differences between an AEP and homeschooling here in our state:

http://www.washhomeschool.org/whoAltEd.html

The issue here is when someone who is in an AEP says they are strictly homeschooling, that can be confusing for those newcomers to homeschooling who do not understand the fundamental differences, and the legal differences, of the two programs.

I also have philosophical questions as to why in our area the public school district targets so many homeschooling families for AEPs but does not offer the AEP option/program to their own public school students, but that is another rant for another time =).

Again I think AEPs are wonderful tools and looked into them myself, I do not look down on ANYONE for making that choice for their family.

I just dont understand why some do not call it as it is, an AEP..There is nothing wrong with it being that!

Nichoel

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----- Original Message -----
From: Tia Leschke
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Welcome new members (and question)



>AEP=alternative education programs that are ran by the school districts =)

That's what I thought. I guess we aren't homeschooling, even though all
education decisions are made by us (really our son) and none of his
learning happens in school. Like "real" homeschoolers have to do in many
provinces and states, we have to keep a simple record of his learning and
forward it 3 times a year. This consists (in our case) of about a 1 page
description of books we've read to him, "educational TV shows he's watched,
and mention of a few conversations about various subjects we've had. I've
heard that the school district programs are much different than that in
some places, but I've also heard that there are lots much like ours. Why
do we do it? The computer, the internet access, and the cheque I just
received from the school district which will just about cover the cost of
the digital camera we just bought.
Tia

What you think of me is none of my business.
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Tia Leschke leschke@...
On Vancouver Island


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