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I have more questions:
What about the warning by even mainstreem pediatrics that there
should be no tv for children under the age of two because it will
inhibit their developement? Why wouldn't you be concerned about that?

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Why should I? Do these "mainstream" pediatricians spend a lot of time
with unschooled, mindfully parented children?

I have proof it doesn't. They are 19 and 11 and 46 and 45.

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If you have ever read Naomi Aldort or listened to her CD's you know
that she highly recommends unschooling and yet she says no tv until
age 9.

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ANd if you want to believe what she says without question, we cannot
stop you. But if you want to question *WHY*, we can give you our
opinions too.

Keep in mind that none of us are expecting you to believe anything *we*
say either without deeply questioning us and, more importantly,
*YOURSELF*!

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I have taken many classes from Tom Brown at his willderness Awareness
school. A man named John Young who was his student for 10years taught
a class on Cayote teaching(basically unschooling by answering a
childs questions with another question)

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Kind of like the Socratic method.

The problem is that you are believing everything these people are
TELLING you *without* ASKING questions!!!

Kind of ironic. <g>

At the same time, I don't answer each and every question my kids ask
with a question. Very often, they simply want an answer, so I give them
what they ask for.

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He showed us that tv and more
so video games limit the mind to the point where they did studies on
kids that played alot of video games and were only using 5% of there
brains.

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Socrates/Coyote: Huh??? How is that measured?

OH! You mean the "researchers" were only using 5% of their brains?
Gotcha! <g>

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How exactly they test that I am not sure except that I know
that some kids lost the ability to see in three D and an Art teacher
had to take them out side and show them that this tree was actually
farther away then that tree.

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Socrates/Coyote: You *know* this? How?

And yet my 11 year old gamer is an artist. And completely understands
dimensions and depth of field. How do you explain this?

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For me watching tv puts me in tunnel vision and takes me away from
hearing my inner voices (messages from my spirit guides)

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But you didn't have TV as a child and don't have one now as an adult.

Socrates/Coyote: Why do you think that is? Would that be the same with
a child/adult who has always had free access to tv? What would make the
difference?

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What about the power of subliminal over the tv.

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Socrates/Coyote: What about it?

I believe my mind is stronger than a box. Is yours?

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Is it really allowing
for a young child to choose for themself when they are bombarded with
commertials that push hard for kids to get addicted to say soda etc?

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Socrates/Coyote: Do you think children are so powerless and able to be
manipulated? Mine aren't. Why do you think yours are?

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Is that really freedom of choice for them?.

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Socrates/Coyote: What? Being able to choose whether to "get addicted"
to soda??? Or free access to TV?

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Those advertising companies study extensively how to brainwash kids
into wanting there
stuff and the government does not protect the people from very toxic
ingredients in some so called food that is directly targeted towards
children.(Aspertame, propalene glysol etc.)

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Socrates/Coyote: Why do you think SOOOO much money is poured into
advertising? Don't you think that, if it WORKED, they wouldn't have to
spend really big bucks to figure out how to brainwash kids? If it were
*that* easy, wouldn't they find cheaper and easier ways to do it? Why
do you think they spend so much money every year on advertising?
Because it WORKS???

Do you think it's the GOVERNMENT'S job to protect you from toxic
ingredients? Why can you protect yourself? Do you not know what's toxic
and what's not? Why? How would you change that?

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What about these issues?

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Socrates/Coyote: What about them?

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Do you think that if you are able to
completely let go of these fears even subconsiously that none of
these will effect you or your children?

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Socrates/Coyote: What do *you* think?

Do you think I am fearful?

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I believe that could be true but I am not sure how to do that?

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Socrates/Coyote: How do you get over fear?

Would you hide from it? Would you run from it? Would you instill that
fear into others?

Or would you embrace it?

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These are all the deepest darkest fears I have about tv. I have never
heard anything that challenged thier validity until now.

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Socrates/Coyote: Then how could you make an informed decision?

Did you hear many others challenging the school system before you
decided to pull your children out of school? *Very* few people
challenge the validity of school; most praise it and worship it. Give
money to it (voluntarily even!)). Why did *you* buck that system and
remove your kids from it?

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Now I am all about letting go of fear and expanding my awareness..
First you have to be aware of the fear.

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Socrates/Coyote: Why must *I* be aware of fear?

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I did not see myself as
fearing tv for my children before, but now I see where the fear has
been instilled in me. I did not miss tv as a child tho. My dad would
read us esp stories around the table after dinner.

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Socrates/Coyote: Do you fear not being able to read to your children
around the table after dinner? Do you believe them (TV and reading) to
be exclusive of each other?


~Kelly

Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://www.LiveandLearnConference.org


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