Carole Aguilar

I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be ex dh announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I took the kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but that is not the issue at hand.

The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her greatly. She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids, especially those going though a divorce. She believes that children belong in school.

So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both in our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.

So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney? (which I do not have the money for?)

Thanks
Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)



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In a message dated 2/23/2007 3:40:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cally_104@... writes:

So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney? (which I
do not have the money for?)




Possibly- HSLDA

or- compile your own folder to show, pictures, documentation from 'famous
minds' etc to show.. could be valuable to you.. sorry you're going through this.
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Sandi Graff

--- In [email protected], Carole Aguilar <cally_104@...>
wrote:
>
> I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be
ex dh announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I
took the kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but
that is not the issue at hand.
>
> The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her
greatly. She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids,
especially those going though a divorce. She believes that children
belong in school.
>
> So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both
in our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should
challenge my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of
my rights.
>
> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
(which I do not have the money for?)
>
> Thanks
> Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)
>
>
> Hi Carole,

You need to contact the Home School Legal Defense Association. They
are wonderful! I think it's www.hsld.org. If not, just do a search.
It's $100/yr. per family to join. After that, they will do
everything possible to defend your right to homeschool at no
additional charge.

Best of luck to you,

Sandi Graff
Hawaii
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On Feb 23, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Carole Aguilar wrote:

> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
> (which I do not have the money for?)

I know others will jump in to remind us that this is an international
list, so questions regarding specific state laws are best answered
elsewhere; to get you started, try

http://www.cthomeschoolnetwork.org/index.htm

http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/laws/blCT.htm

(both found by Googling "connecticut homeschooling")

Nancy in San Diego

tyra beaulieu

ooohhh fire me up. it is not her decision to determine whether or not your kids belong in school. You will, if you have not already, probably have to write a letter of intent stating that you want to pull your kids out of school. I love how people think they know whats best for our own kids when all they really know is what they grew up with. In the state of CT you do not need a letter of intent by law although some people will claim that you do because of the wording. It is not a law. i attatched some info for you and you should visit the following websites: the NHELD, ct legal defense website. there are a ton of support groups who would LOVE to help too. good luck.
tyra

HB 5883
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/CGABillStatus/CGAbillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=HB5883

AN ACT CONCERNING WITHDRAWAL FROM SCHOOL.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

That subsection (a) of section 10-220 of the general statutes be amended to provide when a parent or guardian of a child provides by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the principal of the school that the child attends or to the superintendent of the local or regional board of education, written notice originated by and signed by the parent or guardian of a child stating that the parent or guardian is withdrawing the child from enrollment in a public school and will provide instruction for the child as required pursuant to section 10-184 of the general statutes, the principal of the school that the child attends or the local or regional board of education shall accept such notice and shall deem the child withdrawn from enrollment in the public school immediately upon receipt of such notice.


Carole Aguilar <cally_104@...> wrote: I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be ex dh announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I took the kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but that is not the issue at hand.

The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her greatly. She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids, especially those going though a divorce. She believes that children belong in school.

So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both in our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.

So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney? (which I do not have the money for?)

Thanks
Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)

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Cindy Fox

Also, it just happens that Deborah Stevenson is right now in Arizona
because she will be speaking at our conference this weekend, but she
is from Connecticut and started a statewide legal organization there
and then created a national legal system.

So, this is a national link - http://www.nheld.com/ - but she is a
local Connecticut gal! :)

She started Connecticut Citizens to Uphold the Right to Educate
(C.U.R.E.) before starting NHELD but I can't find the link to that
one - I'll ask her tomorr...

c.


--- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton
<nancywooton@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Carole Aguilar wrote:
>
> > So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational
attorney?
> > (which I do not have the money for?)
>
> I know others will jump in to remind us that this is an
international
> list, so questions regarding specific state laws are best answered
> elsewhere; to get you started, try
>
> http://www.cthomeschoolnetwork.org/index.htm
>
> http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/laws/blCT.htm
>
> (both found by Googling "connecticut homeschooling")
>
> Nancy in San Diego
>

Carole Aguilar

THANKS Cindy! I emailed her today (NHELD).

Carole


----- Original Message ----
From: Cindy Fox <cindyfox@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:42:21 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Legal Problems in CT

Also, it just happens that Deborah Stevenson is right now in Arizona
because she will be speaking at our conference this weekend, but she
is from Connecticut and started a statewide legal organization there
and then created a national legal system.

So, this is a national link - http://www.nheld. com/ - but she is a
local Connecticut gal! :)

She started Connecticut Citizens to Uphold the Right to Educate
(C.U.R.E.) before starting NHELD but I can't find the link to that
one - I'll ask her tomorr...

c.

--- In AlwaysLearning@ yahoogroups. com, Nancy Wooton
<nancywooton@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Carole Aguilar wrote:
>
> > So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational
attorney?
> > (which I do not have the money for?)
>
> I know others will jump in to remind us that this is an
international
> list, so questions regarding specific state laws are best answered
> elsewhere; to get you started, try
>
> http://www.cthomesc hoolnetwork. org/index. htm
>
> http://homeschoolin g.gomilpitas. com/laws/ blCT.htm
>
> (both found by Googling "connecticut homeschooling" )
>
> Nancy in San Diego
>






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Joyce Fetteroll

> You need to contact the Home School Legal Defense Association.

No one needs to contact HSLDA.

It's a fundamentalist Christian organization interested in furthering
their own goals.

People should check with their own state organizations first.

National Home Educators Network has a wealth of information:

http://www.nhen.org

Anyone thinking about HSLDA should read:

http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/

first.

Joyce

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[email protected]

<<<You need to contact the Home School Legal Defense Association>>>
Uch, please don't.
Unless you are using an approved curriculum/unit study/hs resource of the month, they will not represent you. they don't like unschoolers.
They also specifically state somewhere on their website that they do not get involved in domestic cases.
So an unschooler in the middle of a divorce trial gets nothing from them.
for those who do not want to pay $100 per year to fundamentalist lobbyists, read here:
www.homeschoolingislegal.org .
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In a message dated 2/24/2007 8:10:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fetteroll@... writes:

No one needs to contact HSLDA.

It's a fundamentalist Christian organization interested in furthering
their own goals.




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Carmen Roa

Hi All,
MystikMomma's www.homeschoolislegal.org link is broken.
Can you please post again?
I am feeling so bad for the Mom in Ct.
Blessings,
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rachel

Hi Carole! ((hugs)) to you!

I am also an unschooler from CT and I can vouch for Debbie Stevenson.
She is a wonderful woman in which I have had the privilege to hear
speak. I also e-mailed her once with a question of my own in which she
responded promptly and with great information. I believe she is the best
bet for you. Here is her link http://www.nheld.com/
<http://www.nheld.com/> Your story saddens me because you are
absolutely doing nothing wrong and things like this really get my
feathers up- y'know. Feel free to contact me personally if you want. I
would like to be of support and encouragement to you in anyway I can.

http://www.cthomeschoolnetwork.org/Services-MessageBoard.htm
<http://www.cthomeschoolnetwork.org/Services-MessageBoard.htm>

Here is an unschooling group I belong to- perhaps you can f ind some
good contacts. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TribeUsCT/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TribeUsCT/>

Rachel




--- In [email protected], Carole Aguilar <cally_104@...>
wrote:
>
> I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be ex dh
announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I took the
kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but that is not
the issue at hand.
>
> The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her greatly.
She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids, especially those
going though a divorce. She believes that children belong in school.
>
> So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both in
our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should challenge
my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.
>
> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
(which I do not have the money for?)
>
> Thanks
> Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)
>
>
>
>
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Carole Aguilar

Thanks. I did aready supply a letter of intent for all 3 kids. I also provided them with the reason I withdrew Jonah. I wrote a lengthy curriculum for Jonah for the 2006-07 school year.

I am still so angry. Its all I need right now.

Carole in CT

----- Original Message ----
From: tyra beaulieu <tyralyn14@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:48:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Legal Problems in CT

ooohhh fire me up. it is not her decision to determine whether or not your kids belong in school. You will, if you have not already, probably have to write a letter of intent stating that you want to pull your kids out of school. I love how people think they know whats best for our own kids when all they really know is what they grew up with. In the state of CT you do not need a letter of intent by law although some people will claim that you do because of the wording. It is not a law. i attatched some info for you and you should visit the following websites: the NHELD, ct legal defense website. there are a ton of support groups who would LOVE to help too. good luck.
tyra

HB 5883
http://www.cga ct.gov/asp/ CGABillStatus/ CGAbillstatus. asp?selBillType= Bill&bill_ num=HB5883

AN ACT CONCERNING WITHDRAWAL FROM SCHOOL.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

That subsection (a) of section 10-220 of the general statutes be amended to provide when a parent or guardian of a child provides by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the principal of the school that the child attends or to the superintendent of the local or regional board of education, written notice originated by and signed by the parent or guardian of a child stating that the parent or guardian is withdrawing the child from enrollment in a public school and will provide instruction for the child as required pursuant to section 10-184 of the general statutes, the principal of the school that the child attends or the local or regional board of education shall accept such notice and shall deem the child withdrawn from enrollment in the public school immediately upon receipt of such notice.


Carole Aguilar <cally_104@yahoo. com> wrote: I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be ex dh announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I took the kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but that is not the issue at hand.

The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her greatly. She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids, especially those going though a divorce. She believes that children belong in school.

So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both in our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.

So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney? (which I do not have the money for?)

Thanks
Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)

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Nancy Wooton

On Feb 23, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Sandi Graff wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Carole Aguilar <cally_104@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> I went to court for my divorce trial this morning. My soon to be
> ex dh announced that I did not discuss the issue with him before I
> took the kids out of school to homeschool them. This is not true but
> that is not the issue at hand.
>>
>> The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her
> greatly. She believes this does a grave injustice to the kids,
> especially those going though a divorce. She believes that children
> belong in school.
>>
>> So she appointed a legal guardian to research this situation both
> in our home and at school. Now I am furious that someone should
> challenge my decision to home school my kids. That is a violation of
> my rights.
>>
>> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
> (which I do not have the money for?)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)
>>
>>
>> Hi Carole,
>
> You need to contact the Home School Legal Defense Association. They
> are wonderful! I think it's www.hsld.org. If not, just do a search.
> It's $100/yr. per family to join. After that, they will do
> everything possible to defend your right to homeschool at no
> additional charge.
>
> Best of luck to you,
>
> Sandi Graff
> Hawaii
>

To quote "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," "this stinks like yesterday's
diapers." Is our list being spammed here? "Nerwen" and "Tyra" seem
to be new...

H$LDA won't defend unschoolers. One of my friends applied, stating her
preferred method of teaching (not to) and curriculum (none) -- they
sent back the check. They also will not get involved in divorce cases.

Nancy

Julie W in AR

> You need to contact the Home School Legal Defense Association. They
> are wonderful! I think it's www.hsld.org. If not, just do a search.
> It's $100/yr. per family to join. After that, they will do
> everything possible to defend your right to homeschool at no
> additional charge.

I do not think they will help in cases of divorce.
Could be wrong.


Julie Woolfolk

www.damngoodvintage.com

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Joyce Fetteroll

On Feb 24, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Carmen Roa wrote:

> MystikMomma's www.homeschoolislegal.org link is broken.

It's .info:


http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/

Joyce

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Joyce Fetteroll

On Feb 24, 2007, at 12:12 PM, NerwenEledhwen@... wrote:

>> It's a fundamentalist Christian organization interested in
>> furthering
>> their own goals.
>
> Personal 'opinion'

Did you read at the site provided?

http://www.homeschoolingislegal.info/

If you haven't investigated the information against HSLDA then *your*
"personal opinion" is merely your understanding of Michael Farris's
opinion of his own organization (that has made him a very wealthy
powerful man.)

There's also some information and a lot of links, including how to
investigate HSLDA's practices in your own state, at:

http://homeschooling.gomilpitas.com/articles/102299.htm

Unschoolers make HSLDA nervous. Because we don't stick to the school
schedule of learning we potentially draw government attention to all
homeschoolers and potentially cause legislatures to create
regulations that will allow the government to check up on
homeschooling families.

HSLDA doesn't want government intrusion into homeschooling. (Nor do
other homeschoolers.) But they don't mind regulation that favors
school at homers -- like periodic testing -- since most of their
members are. There's the interesting case of Michigan that went from
no regulation to more difficult:

http://www.nhen.org/leginfo/detail_code.asp?StateCode=Michigan

The first part is state information and you can scroll down to "The
hearing procedure required by the Michigan Supreme Court in Bennett
effectively freed home schooling families from any regulation"

The pertinent section is:
> This was the state of the law until the Legislature enacted the
> Revised School Code in December, 1995. Under the influence of a
> misguided state senator [he admitted this when faced with the
> problems created by the Revised School Code] who was a new home
> schooler, the Senate inserted a provision defining home-schooling
> in terms of a separate exemption to the compulsory attendance law,
> the infamous subsection (3)(f). This so-called exemption was made
> even more onerous in the Michigan House under the guidance of a
> home-schooling representative who was closely allied with HSLDA.
> The exemption was expanded in the House to include standards that
> would have permitted local school district officials to closely
> regulate home schooling families. Most importantly, the legislative
> change defining home schooling upset the status quo that had been
> in place since the Supreme Court decisions two and a half years
> earlier. There would inevitably be a new round of law suits and
> prosecutions, with uncertain results, to interpret and clarify the
> new law. Our peace had been shattered. The legal situation
> surrounding home-schooling was neither certain nor clear.
>
> As soon as those in the home schooling community realized what had
> been done to them, a coalition of home schooling families was
> formed of those opposed to the change in the law. From this
> coalition, two approaches were developed. First, an effort would be
> made to obtain the repeal of the new law to return the legal
> situation to the peace we had after the 1993 Michigan Supreme Court
> decisions. Second, a network would be formed to keep home schooling
> families aware of developments that could affect them. This was the
> origin of the Home Education Communication Network of Michigan
> [HECNM], which may become operational in the near future. The
> repeal of subsection (3)(f) was opposed by the Information Network
> for Christian Homes [INCH] and HSLDA. They claimed that the new law
> was a major improvement!!
Joyce


Sandra Dodd

It's a fundamentalist Christian organization interested in furthering
their own goals.







Personal 'opinion'



=================================================

Unsigned snarkiness on my list!? That's very uncool.



I was away at the HENA conference in Arizona. I'm sorry I didn't let
people here know I'd be gone.



Thanks, Joyce, for providing links and details on HSLDA. I'm sorry
someone attempted insult.



Sandra




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Sandra Dodd

-=-The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her
greatly-=-

Some of the people on this list are old, graying women.
Most conservative, school-loving judges and lawyers are not.

-=-Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home
school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.-=-

Unless you were granted sole custody, you don't have the right to
make a unilateral decision about your children's education.

Sandra




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Carole Aguilar

Old and graying was used to describe her age, i.e. old ideas, etc . . no offense intended, I to am old and gray. But point taken.

I am aware that I cannot make decisions for my ex, it was discussed with him at length and he agreed with my decision.


----- Original Message ----
From: Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:25:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Legal Problems in CT

-=-The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her
greatly-=-

Some of the people on this list are old, graying women.
Most conservative, school-loving judges and lawyers are not.

-=-Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home
school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.-=-

Unless you were granted sole custody, you don't have the right to
make a unilateral decision about your children's education.

Sandra

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Carole Aguilar

The judge does not represent my ex. She took it upon herself to say that it is SHE who does not believe in homeschooling. She asked when the children will be returned to school. When I replied that they are not going to be returned, that they are homeschooled she became annoyed and said oh no, children belong in school, especially while going through a divorce. I attempted to speak and she refused me the opportunity to do so.
Carole


----- Original Message ----
From: Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:25:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Legal Problems in CT

-=-The judge an old, graying woman decided that this upset her
greatly-=-

Some of the people on this list are old, graying women.
Most conservative, school-loving judges and lawyers are not.

-=-Now I am furious that someone should challenge my decision to home
school my kids. That is a violation of my rights.-=-

Unless you were granted sole custody, you don't have the right to
make a unilateral decision about your children's education.

Sandra

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Sandra Dodd

-=-I am aware that I cannot make decisions for my ex, it was
discussed with him at length and he agreed with my decision.
-=-

It's not about making decisions for your ex.
It's about making decisions concerning your children, which you
cannot do without full custody.

I'm trying to help you see clearly where you are. A thousand words
about "rights" and lawyers won't change the very simple fact that
joint custody has realities.

If someone will be dishonest in a court of law, saying "But he agreed
to X on the phone the other day" doesn't matter much, does it?

-=-The judge does not represent my ex. She took it upon herself to
say that it is SHE who does not believe in homeschooling-=-

"She took it upon herself"?
She is an elected or appointed official who in that moment outranked
you BIGtime.
She didn't "take that upon herself."
A judge's beliefs are *IT* in their own courtrooms.

-=When I replied that they are not going to be returned, that they
are homeschooled she became annoyed and said oh no, children belong
in school, especially while going through a divorce. I attempted to
speak and she refused me the opportunity to do so. -=-

Did you not have a lawyer with you?
Making a declaration to a judge like that can get you a fine or a few
days in jail.

For the benefit of anyone else considering divorce and its
ramifications, this might be worth reading:
http://sandradodd.com/divorce

Sandra




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Sylvia Toyama

I am aware that I cannot make decisions for my ex, it was discussed with him at length and he agreed with my decision.

****

It only counts, tho, if he agreed in writing on a legal document -- if it was just conversational, you don't really have any way to hold him to those words.

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Sylvia Toyama

The judge does not represent my ex. She took it upon herself to say that it is SHE who does not believe in homeschooling. She asked when the children will be returned to school. When I replied that they are not going to be returned, that they are homeschooled she became annoyed and said oh no, children belong in school, especially while going through a divorce. I attempted to speak and she refused me the opportunity to do so.
Carole

*****
Does your husband think the kids should be in school? If so, then she's speaking to an issue that's still in contention between the two of you.

It's not that judges hate homeschooling -- I know divorced folks who homeschool, even unschool. What makes it different is that the parents agreed on home/unschooling and the judge just signed off on the parents' agreement. There was nothing else for the judge to do since that was already agreed on. Until/unless your ex-dh agrees to homeschooling -- or is so completely discredited in every way that you get sole custody -- a judge certainly can order that your children be in school. Even after a divorce, you still share your children -- where disagreements arise, it's a matter of lose some, win some.

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Carole Aguilar

Thanks, this does make things easier to understand - distancing myself from the emotion.

Some history here is that I do have sole custody now. Their dad has not paid child support for 2 years. He does not want to be divorced, so he is trying to find contention to bring to court. He brought this divorce to trial. I showed up in court month after month for one year. Each and every time he would look over the divorce agreement and refuse to sign. Because he wants the child support to be contingent on whether or not he has a job. Because I have a lousy lawyer and because we saw different judges it has come to this.

My parents do not believe in home schooling and my Dad is using Francisco to be heard.

This is true frustration.


----- Original Message ----
From: Sylvia Toyama <sylgt04@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:32:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Legal Problems in CT

The judge does not represent my ex. She took it upon herself to say that it is SHE who does not believe in homeschooling. She asked when the children will be returned to school. When I replied that they are not going to be returned, that they are homeschooled she became annoyed and said oh no, children belong in school, especially while going through a divorce. I attempted to speak and she refused me the opportunity to do so.
Carole

*****
Does your husband think the kids should be in school? If so, then she's speaking to an issue that's still in contention between the two of you.

It's not that judges hate homeschooling -- I know divorced folks who homeschool, even unschool. What makes it different is that the parents agreed on home/unschooling and the judge just signed off on the parents' agreement. There was nothing else for the judge to do since that was already agreed on. Until/unless your ex-dh agrees to homeschooling -- or is so completely discredited in every way that you get sole custody -- a judge certainly can order that your children be in school. Even after a divorce, you still share your children -- where disagreements arise, it's a matter of lose some, win some.

Sylvia

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Sandra Dodd

-=-Some history here is that I do have sole custody now. Their dad
has not paid child support for 2 years. He does not want to be
divorced, so he is trying to find contention to bring to court. He
brought this divorce to trial. I showed up in court month after month
for one year. Each and every time he would look over the divorce
agreement and refuse to sign. Because he wants the child support to
be contingent on whether or not he has a job. Because I have a lousy
lawyer and because we saw different judges it has come to this. -=-

How much is unschooling worth to you? If you have sole custody and
you ask for divorce without child support, and with full custody,
then you can unschool. (Maybe.)

If you hold out for child support, you'll probably also have to
concede control or some veto power to the one who's paying child
support.

Because none of this is about how children learn, though, I don't
think this is the best list for discussing it.

At first I didn't mind because I was gone three days and it had
already gone toward legality and that, and my own contributions had
to do with clarity of thought and with finding the simple moment in
the long drawn out proceedings.


Sandra

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Pamela Sorooshian

Contact NHELD right there in your own state. (This is an alternative
to HSLDA.)

860.354.3590
info@...

Also, this is from a California attorney/homeschooling mom, but the
advice is generally applicable.
<http://www.hsc.org/chaos/legal/articles/custody.php>

AND - this is a packet of information about homeschooling that has
been created for professionals such as judges, mediators, social
workers, etc. Comprehensive and excellent.
<http://www.hsc.org/professionals/>

There is no way you can probably justify unschooling to these
officials - you'll need to make sure you talk about homeschooling,
only. You could use an unschooling curriculum description, though -
rewrite it to be about your own kids, specifically. I think it is
pretty impressive. It is here, on Sandra's site: <http://
sandradodd.com/acme1> and <http://sandradodd.com/acme2>.

-pam
Relay for Life
http://www.acsevents.org/relay/ca/longbeach/pamsoroosh


On Feb 23, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Carole Aguilar wrote:

> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
> (which I do not have the money for?)
>
> Thanks
> Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)




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Carole Aguilar

These sites are invaluable. Thank you.


----- Original Message ----
From: Pamela Sorooshian <pamsoroosh@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:13:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Legal Problems in CT

Contact NHELD right there in your own state. (This is an alternative
to HSLDA.)

860.354.3590
info@...

Also, this is from a California attorney/homeschool ing mom, but the
advice is generally applicable.
<http://www.hsc. org/chaos/ legal/articles/ custody.php>

AND - this is a packet of information about homeschooling that has
been created for professionals such as judges, mediators, social
workers, etc. Comprehensive and excellent.
<http://www.hsc. org/professional s/>

There is no way you can probably justify unschooling to these
officials - you'll need to make sure you talk about homeschooling,
only. You could use an unschooling curriculum description, though -
rewrite it to be about your own kids, specifically. I think it is
pretty impressive. It is here, on Sandra's site: <http://
sandradodd.com/ acme1> and <http://sandradodd. com/acme2>.

-pam
Relay for Life
http://www.acsevent s.org/relay/ ca/longbeach/ pamsoroosh

On Feb 23, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Carole Aguilar wrote:

> So what do I do next? Do I need to retain an edcational attorney?
> (which I do not have the money for?)
>
> Thanks
> Carole in CT trying to unschool Lauren (13) Jonah (10) and Julia (7)

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