Re: [AlwaysLearning] Watching enough WITH him? WAS: Re: My 4 year old and the...
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In a message dated 1/6/2007 10:02:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Sandra@... writes:
<<<Watching enough to know what it is helps. If you know enough that if
he tells you a story about something he saw you have an idea who the
characters are is really great for him.>>>
I do with Spongebob, but reading this, I realized I've been avoiding Ben 10
(which I rather like, actually) and definitely DON'T know enough about the
characters or storyline. What a great opportunity for me to sit down with him
tomorrow and ask to watch it "on demand"-thanks.
<<<When I start to feel the sharp grating jangly feeling, I try to breath
through it and think GOOD thoughts about what they're doing and learning.>>>
I do see things he's learned from it and I love the sound of his laughter
when he is watching it. I don't like to watch it *myself*, mainly because of
what parts I see as *disrespectful*... But opening my mind with this thread has
helped me see that I have a "problem theme" of *disrespect* looming large in
my mind, so I will have to spend some time examining *that*.
On the other hand, I do love silly shows and silliness in general (we love
puns and wordplay, here-apparently I have not been watching closely enough!
Thanks, Pam!), and I *love* that his pet snail, Gary, "meow"s. Maybe I got
stuck with some negative thoughts: "I *don't* like it. It is big on disrespect",
and/or searching out those negative things within the show. I'll try watching
from here on in without an "agenda" and hopefully even looking *for* those
silly, fun things. Maybe I will eventually find that I like it for myself. Big
thanks to all those that contributed to this thought process and helped me
change my thinking perspective!!
Peace,
Sang
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Sandra@... writes:
<<<Watching enough to know what it is helps. If you know enough that if
he tells you a story about something he saw you have an idea who the
characters are is really great for him.>>>
I do with Spongebob, but reading this, I realized I've been avoiding Ben 10
(which I rather like, actually) and definitely DON'T know enough about the
characters or storyline. What a great opportunity for me to sit down with him
tomorrow and ask to watch it "on demand"-thanks.
<<<When I start to feel the sharp grating jangly feeling, I try to breath
through it and think GOOD thoughts about what they're doing and learning.>>>
I do see things he's learned from it and I love the sound of his laughter
when he is watching it. I don't like to watch it *myself*, mainly because of
what parts I see as *disrespectful*... But opening my mind with this thread has
helped me see that I have a "problem theme" of *disrespect* looming large in
my mind, so I will have to spend some time examining *that*.
On the other hand, I do love silly shows and silliness in general (we love
puns and wordplay, here-apparently I have not been watching closely enough!
Thanks, Pam!), and I *love* that his pet snail, Gary, "meow"s. Maybe I got
stuck with some negative thoughts: "I *don't* like it. It is big on disrespect",
and/or searching out those negative things within the show. I'll try watching
from here on in without an "agenda" and hopefully even looking *for* those
silly, fun things. Maybe I will eventually find that I like it for myself. Big
thanks to all those that contributed to this thought process and helped me
change my thinking perspective!!
Peace,
Sang
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Sandra Dodd
-=-I don't like to watch it *myself*, mainly because of
what parts I see as *disrespectful*... But opening my mind with this
thread has
helped me see that I have a "problem theme" of *disrespect* looming
large in
my mind, so I will have to spend some time examining *that*.-=-
I never learned the characters' names on RugRats. Holly liked it,
and we talked about it some, but I told her I don't like the way they
treat each other and it makes me sad everytime I see it. I didn't
like the mean girl using the word "stupid."
That might've been enough feedback for Holly's comfort, though,
because she would come and tell me stories sometimes about the
meanness and that she was glad people had never been that way with
her, but I said some people are that way and they don't know a
different way.
So good came of it, even though I really was too uncomfortable with
it to watch myself, probably because people HAD called me and my
ideas and my interests "stupid" when I was a kid, more times than I
would want to try to count.
Holly's experience with the show wasn't mine at all.
Sandra
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what parts I see as *disrespectful*... But opening my mind with this
thread has
helped me see that I have a "problem theme" of *disrespect* looming
large in
my mind, so I will have to spend some time examining *that*.-=-
I never learned the characters' names on RugRats. Holly liked it,
and we talked about it some, but I told her I don't like the way they
treat each other and it makes me sad everytime I see it. I didn't
like the mean girl using the word "stupid."
That might've been enough feedback for Holly's comfort, though,
because she would come and tell me stories sometimes about the
meanness and that she was glad people had never been that way with
her, but I said some people are that way and they don't know a
different way.
So good came of it, even though I really was too uncomfortable with
it to watch myself, probably because people HAD called me and my
ideas and my interests "stupid" when I was a kid, more times than I
would want to try to count.
Holly's experience with the show wasn't mine at all.
Sandra
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Nancy Wooton
On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:51 AM, Sanguinegirl83@... wrote:
watching, and laughing. The episode has the characters transported
back to cave-man days; they look a little like the Flintstones, but
they're grunting instead of talking. Squidward just chose which club
to take with him, leaving the other behind; the club started crying.
The genius of SpongeBob is its visual absurdity. I mean -- a starfish
that has eyes and a mouth on what ought to be the top of its body is
just the start. I think with many cartoons, its the voices and the
overall noise level that bug adults; try turning the sound down and
just *look* at SpongeBob.
I have to admit I have a weakness for 'toons, though, as my son wants
to be a cartoonist (planning on a daily strip) and one of his good
friends is already a voice actor and knows many of the actors behind
shows like Animaniacs. That one, btw, is pure genius and unique in
that the writers were not beholden to a studio; Steven Spielberg backed
them financially, and gave them carte blanche. (Can you tell I've been
to ComiCon? <g>) Like a lot of cartoons (Loony Toons, Bullwinkle,
etc), Animaniacs is written for adults, but kids like it, too ;-)
Nancy (home with a migraine instead of at the barn...)
> I'll try watchingIt's on right now on my TV. My 16 y.o. son and his 19 y.o. friend are
> from here on in without an "agenda" and hopefully even looking *for*
> those
> silly, fun things. Maybe I will eventually find that I like it for
> myself.
watching, and laughing. The episode has the characters transported
back to cave-man days; they look a little like the Flintstones, but
they're grunting instead of talking. Squidward just chose which club
to take with him, leaving the other behind; the club started crying.
The genius of SpongeBob is its visual absurdity. I mean -- a starfish
that has eyes and a mouth on what ought to be the top of its body is
just the start. I think with many cartoons, its the voices and the
overall noise level that bug adults; try turning the sound down and
just *look* at SpongeBob.
I have to admit I have a weakness for 'toons, though, as my son wants
to be a cartoonist (planning on a daily strip) and one of his good
friends is already a voice actor and knows many of the actors behind
shows like Animaniacs. That one, btw, is pure genius and unique in
that the writers were not beholden to a studio; Steven Spielberg backed
them financially, and gave them carte blanche. (Can you tell I've been
to ComiCon? <g>) Like a lot of cartoons (Loony Toons, Bullwinkle,
etc), Animaniacs is written for adults, but kids like it, too ;-)
Nancy (home with a migraine instead of at the barn...)
finnaland
DH *loves* Spongebob. I like it too, but not to the same degree.
He's one of those guys who can get all the kids waiting in line at the
supermarket to sing the theme song with him!
Fin, our DD, seems bewildered by it, but jumps up and trys to watch
with him. She'll ask questions like, "They are underwater? Why does
Gary have to take a bath then?" Yes, I would say "visual absurdity" is
one of its highlights :)
--- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton <nancywooton@...>
wrote:
He's one of those guys who can get all the kids waiting in line at the
supermarket to sing the theme song with him!
Fin, our DD, seems bewildered by it, but jumps up and trys to watch
with him. She'll ask questions like, "They are underwater? Why does
Gary have to take a bath then?" Yes, I would say "visual absurdity" is
one of its highlights :)
--- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton <nancywooton@...>
wrote:
> The genius of SpongeBob is its visual absurdity. I mean -- a starfish
> that has eyes and a mouth on what ought to be the top of its body is
> just the start. I think with many cartoons, its the voices and the
> overall noise level that bug adults; try turning the sound down and
> just *look* at SpongeBob.
Gold Standard
>>The genius of SpongeBob is its visual absurdity. I mean -- a starfishNot to mention the regular gravity pull in the ocean...whether falling off a
>>that has eyes and a mouth on what ought to be the top of its body is
>>just the start.<<
cliff or out of a flying car...it's straight down like a penny off the Sears
Tower.
And the ocean beachfront...on the ocean floor. I still have to think about
that one to get it when I see it. And Sandy Squirrel with the air
helmet...it's just part of her...no one seems to notice she's a land animal
blithely living on the sea floor...it's all so funny (more so watching than
reading my inept attempt to capture it).
Jacki
Sandra Dodd
-=-Fin, our DD, seems bewildered by it, but jumps up and trys to watch
with him. She'll ask questions like, "They are underwater? Why does
Gary have to take a bath then?" Yes, I would say "visual absurdity" is
one of its highlights :)-=-
In The Little Mermaid, the sea witch makes a potion, in a cup, to
drink. Under the ocean.
Sandra
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with him. She'll ask questions like, "They are underwater? Why does
Gary have to take a bath then?" Yes, I would say "visual absurdity" is
one of its highlights :)-=-
In The Little Mermaid, the sea witch makes a potion, in a cup, to
drink. Under the ocean.
Sandra
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