mascire2

Hi all!
I need some ideas for helping my son with his newly pierced ear. It
has actually been about 10 weeks, and he is afraid to take out the
earring. He took it out for the first time after about 5 weeks, it
hurt getting the earring out, and putting the new one in. So, he is
associating anything to do with the earring as pain. He has a very
low threshold for pain. I want so badly to help him, but he doesn't
want to try any of my ideas. The last time we tried to take it out
it hurt. I think the hole was a tiny bit closed up in back, and this
is what caused the pain. I feel at a loss as to how to help him.
This is causing him so much stress right now, and I feel helpless!
We tried numbing it, which seemed to work, but he is still convinced
that it will hurt.

Does anyone have any ideas? He gets so frustrated that he cries
cries, and I sit with him trying to comfort him. He ends up saying
he hates himself and that he is stupid because he has an earring
that he can't even take out.

I have seen so many great ideas on this list that I thought I would
it out here hoping for some suggestions.

Thank you!
Amie

Eric and Sam 9

Sandra Dodd

-=-He has a very low threshold for pain.-=-

I do too.

Is the earring moving freely in the hole? Are you using alcohol or
hydrogen peroxide or the stuff made just for ears, to clean up any
gunk and help it heal?

The real problem I would see is if it's not moving around.

Sandra

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laura g

i always left my earings in my ears for a LONG time after they were pierced.
I would turn them alot and clean them with alcohol. is it infected or
does he just want to switch ear rings and is afraid it will hurt? if not
infected i would just leave it there. it takes some people along time to
stay open. i have very sensitive ears to different metals so have to be
very careful but when i first had them pierced i would leave the same earing
for months and just play with it. you dont have to take them out. if the
other earring he tried had a bigger in diameter base thingy it would hurt.
i used to leave a little hoop in one of mine and when i would try to wear
any other earring it hurt cause it was bigger.


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>Hi all!
>I need some ideas for helping my son with his newly pierced ear. It
>has actually been about 10 weeks, and he is afraid to take out the
>earring. He took it out for the first time after about 5 weeks, it
>hurt getting the earring out, and putting the new one in. So, he is
>associating anything to do with the earring as pain. He has a very
>low threshold for pain. I want so badly to help him, but he doesn't
>want to try any of my ideas. The last time we tried to take it out
>it hurt. I think the hole was a tiny bit closed up in back, and this
>is what caused the pain. I feel at a loss as to how to help him.
>This is causing him so much stress right now, and I feel helpless!
>We tried numbing it, which seemed to work, but he is still convinced
>that it will hurt.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas? He gets so frustrated that he cries
>cries, and I sit with him trying to comfort him. He ends up saying
>he hates himself and that he is stupid because he has an earring
>that he can't even take out.
>
>I have seen so many great ideas on this list that I thought I would
>it out here hoping for some suggestions.
>
>Thank you!
>Amie
>
>Eric and Sam 9
>
>

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Pamela Sorooshian

In addition to the stuff they gave us, we frequently put Solarcain on
my daughters' pierced ears - it is antiseptic, but also has something
that numbs, too. Usually it is used for sunburn.

And, my girls didn't take their earrings out for at least 3 months -
the people doing the piercing told them to wait that long - Roxana
waited more like 6 months to take them out, the first time - didn't
want to risk it being painful. She fooled with them quite a bit -
turned them at least a few times per day. It won't hurt them at all
to keep putting solarcain (or something similar) on them. Solarcain
is a spray, but we didn't spray it directly on the ear - just on her
fingers and then she sort of dabbed it on.

-pam



On Oct 28, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:

> Is the earring moving freely in the hole? Are you using alcohol or
> hydrogen peroxide or the stuff made just for ears, to clean up any
> gunk and help it heal?
>
> The real problem I would see is if it's not moving around.

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mascire2

Hi Sandra,
It does move freely. We aren't using anything to clean it right now
because it has been 10 weeks, and it looks fine. He is really scared
about the pain. It seems to come out fine, but then when I go to put
it back it it hurts just in the back. But, it looks better than it did
3 weeks ago, which is the last time we tried. I think it looks healed
and that it would be ok, but he is afraid that there might be pain.
So, I am trying to help him with facing the pain, if there is any. I
just don't know how to help him because I don't want him to feel like
I "talked him into it". He is convinced it will hurt, so I am just not
sure how to help him. He is so very frustrated with hiimself because
he is afraid to try. I try to help him with his feelings, but that
doesn't change anything for him, he still wants to change the earring,
but won't let himself try again. I feel his frustration, and I want to
help, but I don't think there is an easy solution.

Thank you!
Amie

Emily Smith

Here's my suggestion (and my first post on this list, so be kind all.) I see an opportunity for a new experience. Do you live in or close to a city that would have a reputable piercing place? By that I mean not one of those mall places that use a gun, but a place that respects piercings as art. Perhaps it would help him to go talk to one of theses people who have devoted their lives to this art form. He could see his own discomfort and pain in relation to the greater concept of self experession and body adornment. Sometimes we get so focused on something, such as our own pain, that we forget to look at the greater picture. Maybe seeing other people with many piercings (and loving it) would give him a sense that he can handle just the one. If anything, it would be an interesting outing, maybe to an area of town you've never been.

Oh, and just because it looks okay, doen't mean it is pain free. My understanding is that the industry frowns on invasive treatments like Bactine, alchohol and such. A natural solution of sea salt and filtered water does an amazing job of healing. Ask your piercing proffesssional (again, not one sitting in a mall kiosk) for suggestions.

Good luck!
Emily
----- Original Message ----
From: mascire2 <amiersa2@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:25:46 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: need help with newly pierced ear

Hi Sandra,
It does move freely. We aren't using anything to clean it right now
because it has been 10 weeks, and it looks fine. He is really scared
about the pain. It seems to come out fine, but then when I go to put
it back it it hurts just in the back. But, it looks better than it did
3 weeks ago, which is the last time we tried. I think it looks healed
and that it would be ok, but he is afraid that there might be pain.
So, I am trying to help him with facing the pain, if there is any. I
just don't know how to help him because I don't want him to feel like
I "talked him into it". He is convinced it will hurt, so I am just not
sure how to help him. He is so very frustrated with hiimself because
he is afraid to try. I try to help him with his feelings, but that
doesn't change anything for him, he still wants to change the earring,
but won't let himself try again. I feel his frustration, and I want to
help, but I don't think there is an easy solution.

Thank you!
Amie




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Sandra Dodd

-=-I try to help him with his feelings, but that
doesn't change anything for him, he still wants to change the earring,
but won't let himself try again. I feel his frustration, and I want to
help, but I don't think there is an easy solution.-=-

Maybe play around and experiment with things you have around the
house or can buy that have pain-killing ability. You might have
stuff for teething or toothache or antibiotic with painkiller in it,
or Solarcaine as someone recommended. If he puts that stuff on him
and feels that he's numb in the place, it might give him confidence
to use that for the next earring change.

When you switch, try to use an earring with a very straight post or
section. Putting a curve through when someone's lacking confidence
can be more difficult.


Sandra



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Wildflower Car

I would leave it alone. Is there a reason he wants to take it out? I guess
so or you wouldn't be asking. :) I would guess from reading that he doesn't
have an infection or anything.

My daughter had a hard time after I pierced her ears. I pierced all three of
my daughters the same evening, the oldest and the youngest did fine, but my
middle daughter had an infection and it took longer to heal. When we tried
to change hers it hurt, I just told her to forget about them for a while.
About two months later she came down stairs with a new pair of butterflies
in her ear. She just needed to get to the point that she was sick of waiting
and then did it on her own.

I know for my daughter she was just anxious to change the earrings for
another pair. But I just said it wasn't worth all the stress and encouraged
her to wait a while and then tried not to bring it up.

I hope that helps some. This is often the solution for a stress causer in
our house. We just deal with it another time if they aren't ready.

My kids watched me take stitches out of my husband one time and have since
each taken out their own stitches, but they wait about a week longer than
the doc says. They all had some minor injury that required stitches within
an 18 month time frame. So that helped because they had each other to watch.
But that extra week to get pasted the tenderness made all the difference.

Good luck!
Wildflower

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lol..I should give him my daughters email *the one who calls me at work to say," Mommy, I was bored so I pierced my ear."
But she'd just tell him to suck it up.

Mom to the piercing princess

----- Original Message ----
From: Emily Smith <idolturtle2@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:01:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: need help with newly pierced ear

Here's my suggestion (and my first post on this list, so be kind all.) I see an opportunity for a new experience. Do you live in or close to a city that would have a reputable piercing place? By that I mean not one of those mall places that use a gun, but a place that respects piercings as art. Perhaps it would help him to go talk to one of theses people who have devoted their lives to this art form. He could see his own discomfort and pain in relation to the greater concept of self experession and body adornment. Sometimes we get so focused on something, such as our own pain, that we forget to look at the greater picture. Maybe seeing other people with many piercings (and loving it) would give him a sense that he can handle just the one. If anything, it would be an interesting outing, maybe to an area of town you've never been.

Oh, and just because it looks okay, doen't mean it is pain free. My understanding is that the industry frowns on invasive treatments like Bactine, alchohol and such. A natural solution of sea salt and filtered water does an amazing job of healing. Ask your piercing proffesssional (again, not one sitting in a mall kiosk) for suggestions.

Good luck!
Emily
----- Original Message ----
From: mascire2 <amiersa2@cinci. rr.com>
To: AlwaysLearning@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:25:46 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: need help with newly pierced ear

Hi Sandra,
It does move freely. We aren't using anything to clean it right now
because it has been 10 weeks, and it looks fine. He is really scared
about the pain. It seems to come out fine, but then when I go to put
it back it it hurts just in the back. But, it looks better than it did
3 weeks ago, which is the last time we tried. I think it looks healed
and that it would be ok, but he is afraid that there might be pain.
So, I am trying to help him with facing the pain, if there is any. I
just don't know how to help him because I don't want him to feel like
I "talked him into it". He is convinced it will hurt, so I am just not
sure how to help him. He is so very frustrated with hiimself because
he is afraid to try. I try to help him with his feelings, but that
doesn't change anything for him, he still wants to change the earring,
but won't let himself try again. I feel his frustration, and I want to
help, but I don't think there is an easy solution.

Thank you!
Amie

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Ren Allen

THings we've learned from multiple exerpiences with piercings:

Do NOT use alcohol or hydrogen peroxide!! Ever. Seriously.
It kills healthy tissue as well as germs and causes a much longer
healing time. NOt good.

Leave the stud in for FAR longer than what they tell you. MONTHS. They
do NOT heal in 6 weeks. Ever. Don't take the earrings out, don't put
in dangly types,just leave the stud alone and clean it once a day
(since you're already at 10weeks).

If you don't have the actual earring cleanser from the store, Bactine
is a close second (and numbs a bit). Try to leave the earrings
alone...they don't need to be messed with much at all. Taking them out
to clean it could be causing the pain. My kids (and myself) need to
leave them alone for several months before switching them out or we
experience pain.

Good luck!

Ren
learninginfreedom.com

Ellen

We live by many piercing studios here in San Francisco, and what Emily
says is very true. When my daughter got her ear (yes ear
singular...she wouldn't let them to the second!) pierced they said to
put nothing but sea salt on it (1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon per cup of warm
water) and soak the piercing once or twice daily in the saline. No
changing earrings, no taking it out, for four to six
months. NO neosporin, alcohol, peroxide.

Also, no turning the earring during the healing process! If anything
has crusted on the earring, it scrapes the unhealed tissue inside the
ear and creates more scarring.

If it hurts, it is because it is not ready to be bothered! The skin
heals from the outside in, and it takes 4-6 months for the inner
layers to be completely healed.

I learned so much in the process of researching real piercing vs. mall
guns. I have such respect for true piercing artists after our experience!

Ellen



--- In [email protected], Emily Smith <idolturtle2@...>
wrote:
>
> Here's my suggestion (and my first post on this list, so be kind
all.) I see an opportunity for a new experience. Do you live in or
close to a city that would have a reputable piercing place? By that I
mean not one of those mall places that use a gun, but a place that
respects piercings as art. Perhaps it would help him to go talk to
one of theses people who have devoted their lives to this art form.
He could see his own discomfort and pain in relation to the greater
concept of self experession and body adornment. Sometimes we get so
focused on something, such as our own pain, that we forget to look at
the greater picture. Maybe seeing other people with many piercings
(and loving it) would give him a sense that he can handle just the
one. If anything, it would be an interesting outing, maybe to an area
of town you've never been.
>
> Oh, and just because it looks okay, doen't mean it is pain free. My
understanding is that the industry frowns on invasive treatments like
Bactine, alchohol and such. A natural solution of sea salt and
filtered water does an amazing job of healing. Ask your piercing
proffesssional (again, not one sitting in a mall kiosk) for suggestions.
>
> Good luck!
> Emily
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mascire2 <amiersa2@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:25:46 PM
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: need help with newly pierced ear
>
> Hi Sandra,
> It does move freely. We aren't using anything to clean it right now
> because it has been 10 weeks, and it looks fine. He is really scared
> about the pain. It seems to come out fine, but then when I go to put
> it back it it hurts just in the back. But, it looks better than it did
> 3 weeks ago, which is the last time we tried. I think it looks healed
> and that it would be ok, but he is afraid that there might be pain.
> So, I am trying to help him with facing the pain, if there is any. I
> just don't know how to help him because I don't want him to feel like
> I "talked him into it". He is convinced it will hurt, so I am just not
> sure how to help him. He is so very frustrated with hiimself because
> he is afraid to try. I try to help him with his feelings, but that
> doesn't change anything for him, he still wants to change the earring,
> but won't let himself try again. I feel his frustration, and I want to
> help, but I don't think there is an easy solution.
>
> Thank you!
> Amie
>
>
>
>
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>