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Literary Child
I have used "Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" with my two
oldest. They were 3 and 4 at the time, and both had very different learning
and personality styles. The book worked fabulously for both of them. They
each came to me on their own terms requesting to learn how to read. (I know
3 & 4 is early to learn to read, but I follow their lead.) As unschoolers,
it's the only time so far I have purposely taught them something from a
book, and only because they asked for it. I wrote a post about the book on
my blog:
http://literarychildblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/book-review-teach-your-child-to-read.html
I highly recommend it to everyone who asks about teaching children how to
read. It's a very easy system to follow. My son (now 6) is a voracious
reader and is rarely without a book in his hands! My 3yo daughter is almost
finished with the book...(after finishing the book your child will be
reading on a "2nd grade level".)
HTH,
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
oldest. They were 3 and 4 at the time, and both had very different learning
and personality styles. The book worked fabulously for both of them. They
each came to me on their own terms requesting to learn how to read. (I know
3 & 4 is early to learn to read, but I follow their lead.) As unschoolers,
it's the only time so far I have purposely taught them something from a
book, and only because they asked for it. I wrote a post about the book on
my blog:
http://literarychildblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/book-review-teach-your-child-to-read.html
I highly recommend it to everyone who asks about teaching children how to
read. It's a very easy system to follow. My son (now 6) is a voracious
reader and is rarely without a book in his hands! My 3yo daughter is almost
finished with the book...(after finishing the book your child will be
reading on a "2nd grade level".)
HTH,
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
On 3/20/06, beautifulgoddessmommy <beautifulgoddessmommy@...> wrote:
>
> So if anyone
> has any advice on how to teach them to read, because they want to
> learn how, then please feel free. I
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JENNIFER MARTIN
Thank you for the insight on that book
we were thinking about that book for a while and had never heard anything about it good or bad and i wanted to try it and now I think I will because they really want to learn and I don't remember how I even learned to read and that was my hardest thing keeping them home was how would they learn to read?? Thank you so much!!!!!
Literary Child <literarychild@...> wrote:
I have used "Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" with my two
oldest. They were 3 and 4 at the time, and both had very different learning
and personality styles. The book worked fabulously for both of them. They
each came to me on their own terms requesting to learn how to read. (I know
3 & 4 is early to learn to read, but I follow their lead.) As unschoolers,
it's the only time so far I have purposely taught them something from a
book, and only because they asked for it. I wrote a post about the book on
my blog:
http://literarychildblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/book-review-teach-your-child-to-read.html
I highly recommend it to everyone who asks about teaching children how to
read. It's a very easy system to follow. My son (now 6) is a voracious
reader and is rarely without a book in his hands! My 3yo daughter is almost
finished with the book...(after finishing the book your child will be
reading on a "2nd grade level".)
HTH,
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
we were thinking about that book for a while and had never heard anything about it good or bad and i wanted to try it and now I think I will because they really want to learn and I don't remember how I even learned to read and that was my hardest thing keeping them home was how would they learn to read?? Thank you so much!!!!!
Literary Child <literarychild@...> wrote:
I have used "Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" with my two
oldest. They were 3 and 4 at the time, and both had very different learning
and personality styles. The book worked fabulously for both of them. They
each came to me on their own terms requesting to learn how to read. (I know
3 & 4 is early to learn to read, but I follow their lead.) As unschoolers,
it's the only time so far I have purposely taught them something from a
book, and only because they asked for it. I wrote a post about the book on
my blog:
http://literarychildblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/book-review-teach-your-child-to-read.html
I highly recommend it to everyone who asks about teaching children how to
read. It's a very easy system to follow. My son (now 6) is a voracious
reader and is rarely without a book in his hands! My 3yo daughter is almost
finished with the book...(after finishing the book your child will be
reading on a "2nd grade level".)
HTH,
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
On 3/20/06, beautifulgoddessmommy <beautifulgoddessmommy@...> wrote:
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> So if anyone
> has any advice on how to teach them to read, because they want to
> learn how, then please feel free. I
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I had that book, and gave it away. I didn't like it at all. Cassidy (5)
pulled it off of the shelf and asked what it was about. I told her, and she
browsed through it some...She liked the word lists, but was put off by all
of the phonetic markings and such. "I'd rather learn to read with real
books, I think" she said.
Tami, who always has at least .02 to add!
we were thinking about that book for a while and had never heard
anything about it good or bad and i wanted to try it and now I think I will
because they really want to learn and I don't remember how I even learned to
read and that was my hardest thing keeping them home was how would they
learn to read?? Thank you so much!!!!! <<<
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pulled it off of the shelf and asked what it was about. I told her, and she
browsed through it some...She liked the word lists, but was put off by all
of the phonetic markings and such. "I'd rather learn to read with real
books, I think" she said.
Tami, who always has at least .02 to add!
>>> Thank you for the insight on that book**Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons"
we were thinking about that book for a while and had never heard
anything about it good or bad and i wanted to try it and now I think I will
because they really want to learn and I don't remember how I even learned to
read and that was my hardest thing keeping them home was how would they
learn to read?? Thank you so much!!!!! <<<
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Sandra Dodd
> we were thinking about that book for a while and had never heardThe recommendation to use that book wasn't made by a longtime
> anything about it good or bad and i wanted to try it and now I
> think I will because they really want to learn and I don't remember
> how I even learned to read and that was my hardest thing keeping
> them home was how would they learn to read?? Thank you so much!!!!!
unschooler. If someone's three year old is ready to read, he can
learn with or without that book.
Holly wanted to try it and we got it and she went through some of the
word lists, but it's NOT "a very easy system to follow," and worse
than that, it is "a system." It adds yet another layer above
phonics, involving different colors of letters.
The bad thing about a mom and a child believing that a certain method
or book enabled reading is that they might not truly and deeply
believe that the child could have read anyway.
-=-(after finishing the book your child will be
reading on a "2nd grade level".)-=-
Thinking of one's children's abilities in terms of school measures
puts one closer to school, not closer to unschooling.
Sandra
Susan McGlohn
A warning about Phonics Abuse (aka reading lessons)...DON'T DO IT!
Your children will read when they are ready to read.
One way to teach reading:
Sarah, now 16, learned to read at age 5, using Teach Your Child To Read in
100 Easy Lessons. We stopped at lesson 65 because she was bored. This was
long before we started unschooling, and yet even I could tell she didn't
*need* that book. She was just ready.
How NOT to teach reading:
Andrew, now almost 15, learned to read at age 12. We had started *teaching*
him at age 6, and eventually had used every single phonics program out
there (just name one, we used it) until he was 11; he struggled, we both
cried, we fought, we struggled some more. He felt worthless, stupid,
retarded, like he couldn't do anything else either, and stopped trying to
learn anything.
I finally got to a place where I laid it all down and stopped trying to
force him. I had heard about unschooling, and I went back and re-read John
Holt and just finally decided in my heart that even if he *never* read, it
was okay, and would not be the defining moment in his life. I apologized
to him, and continued to read to him, whenever he asked, for as long as he
liked. Sometimes he would try to follow along, and would ask that I hold a
white index card under the lines as I read them, but mostly he just
listened. It was not unusual for me to read three hours straight when he
wanted me to, with him snuggled up next to me on the couch.
Six months after that decision on my part, I bought him a manga book
(japanese graphic novel based on anime) that was based on his favorite
cartoon, Rurouni Kenshin, thanks to someone on UnschoolingDiscussion
mentioning it in a post. I told him I would read it to him that night, and
I meant it. He took it up to his room, and two hours later came back down
to tell me he had read it twice! That evening he read it to me!
Two weeks after that he was reading the rule book to the Lord of the Rings
tabletop battle strategy game, written probably at a high school or early
college level. He has continued to read at that level ever since. His
favorite books to read are G.A. Henty novels, which are historical fiction
novels. Now I have to sometimes ask him to take a break because we have
other plans. LOL!
But he still says he can't read. I don't know why, and I don't know how
long that will last. It breaks my heart every time he says it because *I*
am the one that made him think that way.
Probably The Best Way to help a child who wants to read:
I learned *my* lesson well, and now Aaron, who is five days shy of age 8,
is making many reading connections, in total freedom. He knows most of the
letters of the alphabet, and most of the sounds. His world is saturated
with words and sounds.
We write things with sidewalk chalk, we play Boggle Jr. when he asks, we
read books together (but not every day...we are so busy sometimes it just
falls through the cracks), and just a few weeks ago he sat on my lap while
I played Quiddler with two other women and helped me make words with my
cards, and learned all about how almost every word has at least one vowel,
and which ones were vowels.
The other day he got a large Twix candy bar, and looked at it a long time
and said, 4 to gowhat does that mean? Even though the words to and go look
similar, and no one had ever told him the difference, somehow he knew that
to was oo and go was the long o sound.
Word games, rhyming games, letter games, story books, soup labels, candy
bars, street signs, shop signs, the tv guide, sidewalk chalk and finger
paints and Magnetic Poetry on the refrigerator. Words are all around us.
Please, before buying 100 Easy Lessons or any other program, PLEASE read
John Holt's book _Learning All The Time_. Read it twice. Read it three times.
You can trust your child to read. Just because they ask, doesn't mean you
have to go out and buy anything. Answer their questions, play games, read
to them, and Trust Them.
Susan M (VA)
<http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html>http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html
"Real, natural learning is in the living. It's in the observing, the
questioning, the examining, the pondering, the analyzing, the watching, the
reading, the DO-ing, the living, the breathing, the loving, the Joy. It's
in the Joy." ~Anne Ohman
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Your children will read when they are ready to read.
One way to teach reading:
Sarah, now 16, learned to read at age 5, using Teach Your Child To Read in
100 Easy Lessons. We stopped at lesson 65 because she was bored. This was
long before we started unschooling, and yet even I could tell she didn't
*need* that book. She was just ready.
How NOT to teach reading:
Andrew, now almost 15, learned to read at age 12. We had started *teaching*
him at age 6, and eventually had used every single phonics program out
there (just name one, we used it) until he was 11; he struggled, we both
cried, we fought, we struggled some more. He felt worthless, stupid,
retarded, like he couldn't do anything else either, and stopped trying to
learn anything.
I finally got to a place where I laid it all down and stopped trying to
force him. I had heard about unschooling, and I went back and re-read John
Holt and just finally decided in my heart that even if he *never* read, it
was okay, and would not be the defining moment in his life. I apologized
to him, and continued to read to him, whenever he asked, for as long as he
liked. Sometimes he would try to follow along, and would ask that I hold a
white index card under the lines as I read them, but mostly he just
listened. It was not unusual for me to read three hours straight when he
wanted me to, with him snuggled up next to me on the couch.
Six months after that decision on my part, I bought him a manga book
(japanese graphic novel based on anime) that was based on his favorite
cartoon, Rurouni Kenshin, thanks to someone on UnschoolingDiscussion
mentioning it in a post. I told him I would read it to him that night, and
I meant it. He took it up to his room, and two hours later came back down
to tell me he had read it twice! That evening he read it to me!
Two weeks after that he was reading the rule book to the Lord of the Rings
tabletop battle strategy game, written probably at a high school or early
college level. He has continued to read at that level ever since. His
favorite books to read are G.A. Henty novels, which are historical fiction
novels. Now I have to sometimes ask him to take a break because we have
other plans. LOL!
But he still says he can't read. I don't know why, and I don't know how
long that will last. It breaks my heart every time he says it because *I*
am the one that made him think that way.
Probably The Best Way to help a child who wants to read:
I learned *my* lesson well, and now Aaron, who is five days shy of age 8,
is making many reading connections, in total freedom. He knows most of the
letters of the alphabet, and most of the sounds. His world is saturated
with words and sounds.
We write things with sidewalk chalk, we play Boggle Jr. when he asks, we
read books together (but not every day...we are so busy sometimes it just
falls through the cracks), and just a few weeks ago he sat on my lap while
I played Quiddler with two other women and helped me make words with my
cards, and learned all about how almost every word has at least one vowel,
and which ones were vowels.
The other day he got a large Twix candy bar, and looked at it a long time
and said, 4 to gowhat does that mean? Even though the words to and go look
similar, and no one had ever told him the difference, somehow he knew that
to was oo and go was the long o sound.
Word games, rhyming games, letter games, story books, soup labels, candy
bars, street signs, shop signs, the tv guide, sidewalk chalk and finger
paints and Magnetic Poetry on the refrigerator. Words are all around us.
Please, before buying 100 Easy Lessons or any other program, PLEASE read
John Holt's book _Learning All The Time_. Read it twice. Read it three times.
You can trust your child to read. Just because they ask, doesn't mean you
have to go out and buy anything. Answer their questions, play games, read
to them, and Trust Them.
Susan M (VA)
<http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html>http://radicalchristianunschool.homestead.com/index.html
"Real, natural learning is in the living. It's in the observing, the
questioning, the examining, the pondering, the analyzing, the watching, the
reading, the DO-ing, the living, the breathing, the loving, the Joy. It's
in the Joy." ~Anne Ohman
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Mary Beth
I guess I am the slow learner. I took me 10 years to figure out that
kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is fun.
I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
the best thing I could do with them.
I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
I.
I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
him.
My third is a daugher who I found trying to read Alphaphonics by her
night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
reader and loves foreign languages.
My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
not having anything to read?"
Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is fun.
I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
the best thing I could do with them.
I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
I.
I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
him.
My third is a daugher who I found trying to read Alphaphonics by her
night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
reader and loves foreign languages.
My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
not having anything to read?"
Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
Literary Child
> The recommendation to use that book wasn't made by a longtimeBut if the child shows a desire to use the book, am I supposed to tell
> unschooler. If someone's three year old is ready to read, he can learn with
> or without that book.
him/her "no" because using that particular book to learn how to read would
not be "unschooling"?!? I am letting my children lead the way in their
learning. I had the book and they looked at it and both expressed a desire
to use it. There is more than one way to learn how to read. Unschooling to
me is letting my children decide. I did not force this method on them, and
if at any point they didn't enjoy the book, we would stop. If my children
wanted to use workbooks I would let them. It's all up to them, it's not
about doing things a certain way or NOT doing things a certain way, it's
about letting the child decide.
It adds yet another layer above phonics, involving different colors of
> letters.The children are not introduced to different colors of letters in the book.
The bad thing about a mom and a child believing that a certain method or
> book enabled reading is that they might not truly and deeply believe thatI don't believe any one method is right for everyone. That is what's great
> the child could have read anyway.
about unschooling. Every child can learn at his or her own pace and in the
manner best suited for him. Could my children have learned to read without
this book? I'm sure they would eventually. But why would I withhold it
from them if it's what they wanted to do? My son's favorite thing to do is
to read. He has learned so much and his passion everyday about reading and
learning is amazing to watch. If I had told him he couldn't use that book
to learn to read because it was a "system", then he would have missed out on
so much that he loves, while trying to figure out how to read on his own. I
want my children to follow their passions. This book was an easy way for
them to learn to read.
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Nittany Lion
Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to your child versus
them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter books for
hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD. As a result I don't
read as much as I would if she didn't listen to them. But when I do, my
kids don't sit there and look at the words anyway. Thoughts?
Dawn
them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter books for
hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD. As a result I don't
read as much as I would if she didn't listen to them. But when I do, my
kids don't sit there and look at the words anyway. Thoughts?
Dawn
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From: "Mary Beth" <mbdaught@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
>I guess I am the slow learner. I took me 10 years to figure out that
> kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
> ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is fun.
>
> I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
> the best thing I could do with them.
>
> I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
> helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
> but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
> learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
> interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
> I.
>
> I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
> but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
> sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
> Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
> Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
> American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
> him.
>
> My third is a daugher who I found trying to read Alphaphonics by her
> night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
> writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
> She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
> reader and loves foreign languages.
>
> My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
> read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
> she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
> stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
> not having anything to read?"
>
> Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Nittany Lion wrote:
don't see what the hurry is.
But I honestly DO see that the pressure to read has roots in the
distant past and in the puritanical 18th century (for Americans, who
suffered a very puritanical time while some other countries just
booted out their puritanical types <g>).
Reading is harder, and listening to CDs is easier. Therefor, reading
is virtue and listening is sin.
We need to look for that dynamic when we're making decisions.
Kneejerk puritanism is at the root of a LOT of school. Sit down and
shut up or we'll hit you with a stick (cane, rod or ruler, depending
on the local tradition).
A kid who can read Lemony Snicket passingly well will NOT be as good
as Tim Curry reading Lemony Snicket with voices. (Most adults aren't
either.)
Sandra
> Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to yourI'm sure they'll do both by the time they're grown, and I honestly
> child versus
> them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter
> books for
> hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD.
don't see what the hurry is.
But I honestly DO see that the pressure to read has roots in the
distant past and in the puritanical 18th century (for Americans, who
suffered a very puritanical time while some other countries just
booted out their puritanical types <g>).
Reading is harder, and listening to CDs is easier. Therefor, reading
is virtue and listening is sin.
We need to look for that dynamic when we're making decisions.
Kneejerk puritanism is at the root of a LOT of school. Sit down and
shut up or we'll hit you with a stick (cane, rod or ruler, depending
on the local tradition).
A kid who can read Lemony Snicket passingly well will NOT be as good
as Tim Curry reading Lemony Snicket with voices. (Most adults aren't
either.)
Sandra
Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:09 AM, Literary Child wrote:
-=-I don't believe any one method is right for everyone. That is
what's great
about unschooling.-=-
But if the methods are too often too far from learning naturally in
one's own way, it ceases to be unschooling.
If a child chooses "Swiss boarding school," unschooling dissipates.
-=-If I had told him he couldn't use that book
to learn to read because it was a "system", then he would have missed
out on
so much that he loves, while trying to figure out how to read on his
own. -=-
But he couldn't use that book to learn to read without you being the
teacher, could he?
Does he think you taught him to read? Do you? (I think you said you
did, but I'm not sure.)
Thinking teaching is necessary keeps people from knowing it isn't.
Your kids are reading and that's great. Some kids couldn't possibly
learn to read at three with or without all the books in the world,
and that's important for the purposes of this list.
Sandra
>Was all the blue ink for the benefit of the teacher/parent then?
> The children are not introduced to different colors of letters in
> the book.
-=-I don't believe any one method is right for everyone. That is
what's great
about unschooling.-=-
But if the methods are too often too far from learning naturally in
one's own way, it ceases to be unschooling.
If a child chooses "Swiss boarding school," unschooling dissipates.
-=-If I had told him he couldn't use that book
to learn to read because it was a "system", then he would have missed
out on
so much that he loves, while trying to figure out how to read on his
own. -=-
But he couldn't use that book to learn to read without you being the
teacher, could he?
Does he think you taught him to read? Do you? (I think you said you
did, but I'm not sure.)
Thinking teaching is necessary keeps people from knowing it isn't.
Your kids are reading and that's great. Some kids couldn't possibly
learn to read at three with or without all the books in the world,
and that's important for the purposes of this list.
Sandra
Joyce Fetteroll
On Mar 23, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Literary Child wrote:
people unschool.
A child asking for a particular book and helping her read it is
different than advising "This book will help your child read".
*But* a child seeing a book (any book, or any *thing*) and saying
"That looks interesting, let's try it," and helping the child do that
is a good unschooling practice.
A child saying "I want to learn to read," and the parent trying the
different suggestions people have given is good unschooling practice.
100 Easy Lessons isn't an idea or principle. It's a specific school-
like procedure. There isn't any harm in a child and parent trying it
*IF* a parent -- and the child! -- know to the core of their beings
that the child will learn to read without that book.
approach the idea of reading.
It *is* hard to step back from specific examples of what worked for a
particular family and think and offer advice in terms general
principles.
Joyce
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> But if the child shows a desire to use the book, am I supposed to tellWe should be discussing the ideas and principles that will help
> him/her "no" because using that particular book to learn how to
> read would
> not be "unschooling"?!?
people unschool.
A child asking for a particular book and helping her read it is
different than advising "This book will help your child read".
*But* a child seeing a book (any book, or any *thing*) and saying
"That looks interesting, let's try it," and helping the child do that
is a good unschooling practice.
A child saying "I want to learn to read," and the parent trying the
different suggestions people have given is good unschooling practice.
100 Easy Lessons isn't an idea or principle. It's a specific school-
like procedure. There isn't any harm in a child and parent trying it
*IF* a parent -- and the child! -- know to the core of their beings
that the child will learn to read without that book.
> I am letting my children lead the way in theirBut what you're offering to others on the list are schoolish ways to
> learning.
approach the idea of reading.
It *is* hard to step back from specific examples of what worked for a
particular family and think and offer advice in terms general
principles.
Joyce
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Literary Child
> Was all the blue ink for the benefit of the teacher/parent then?In our book there is red font for the parents, yes.
But if the methods are too often too far from learning naturally in one's
> own way, it ceases to be unschooling. But he couldn't use that book to learnI agree. Teaching my kids how to read has been the only thing I have sat
> to read without you being the teacher, could he?
down and "taught" them. I understand that "teaching" them *everything* is
homeschooling. I have just written another post that maybe you could help
me with re: teaching vs. learning. Thanks Sandra!
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Literary Child
>Ooh, that's really a good point! I hadn't thought of it that way. I can
> But what you're offering to others on the list are schoolish ways to
> approach the idea of reading.
definitely understand how that would seem unschooly. However, the person
asked for ideas on teaching a child how to read. I didn't start a post
encouraging everyone to get this book. As requested, I shared with her how
our family has done it. And I feel that the way it was done in our family
(letting the child decide) was still unschooling. She can take everyone's
ideas and choose what is right for her family.
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
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nellebelle
=-=-=-=-=-=Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to your child versus them listening to books on CD??=-=-=-=-=-=-=
One difference is that reading to them is doing something together and you both experience the story. Do you listen with your child?
Jackie (10) loves audiobooks and sometimes listens for hours. She usually is doing something else at the same time - playing with toys, drawing, etc. She usually listens in the kitchen, so I often listen too while cooking, etc. Sometimes she listens in her room.
I sometimes listen to books, rather than read. It's great for multi-tasking as I can use my hands for laundry or something else while listening.
Even if all your child's books were listened to, rather than read, they would still encounter print in other daily activities - signs, packages, notes, computer.
Mary Ellen
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One difference is that reading to them is doing something together and you both experience the story. Do you listen with your child?
Jackie (10) loves audiobooks and sometimes listens for hours. She usually is doing something else at the same time - playing with toys, drawing, etc. She usually listens in the kitchen, so I often listen too while cooking, etc. Sometimes she listens in her room.
I sometimes listen to books, rather than read. It's great for multi-tasking as I can use my hands for laundry or something else while listening.
Even if all your child's books were listened to, rather than read, they would still encounter print in other daily activities - signs, packages, notes, computer.
Mary Ellen
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Schuyler Waynforth
> A kid who can read Lemony Snicket passingly well will NOT be as goodAnd you won't get the strange Lemony Snicket's band musical introduction.
> as Tim Curry reading Lemony Snicket with voices. (Most adults aren't
> either.)
Schuyler
Schuyler Waynforth
> Reading is harder, and listening to CDs is easier. Therefor, readingI'm crap at listening. When someone is talking half the time I'm
> is virtue and listening is sin.
preparing my witty response instead of honestly listening to what they
are saying. Simon is a brilliant listener. He can walk away from one
listening of Lemony Snicket and know so much more of the plot and the
sub-plots and the details than I do after having read the
book...listening is hard.
Schuyler
nellebelle
=-=-=-=-=-=-==But if the child shows a desire to use the book, am I supposed to tell him/her "no" because using that particular book to learn how to read would not be "unschooling"?!?=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The danger is in misunderstanding the child's desire to read. The push for early reading is so pervasive in our society. When a child says, "I want to learn to read", it may not be their own desire but pressure from others (friends, grandparents maybe).
While textbooks can be useful from time to time, many *beginning unschoolers* eagerly await the day when their child asks to use one, seeing that as child-led learning. If a child and/or parent thinks that learning means the parent gets out a particular book to learn a particular subject, then unschooling isn't really happening yet in that family.
Mary Ellen
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The danger is in misunderstanding the child's desire to read. The push for early reading is so pervasive in our society. When a child says, "I want to learn to read", it may not be their own desire but pressure from others (friends, grandparents maybe).
While textbooks can be useful from time to time, many *beginning unschoolers* eagerly await the day when their child asks to use one, seeing that as child-led learning. If a child and/or parent thinks that learning means the parent gets out a particular book to learn a particular subject, then unschooling isn't really happening yet in that family.
Mary Ellen
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JENNIFER MARTIN
Do they follow along with the Harry Potter books in the books as it is read to them???? If not how is that helping them to put the words with the sounds they make or at least see how the word looks that is being read to them?? Does any of that matter?? Can the child read??
Nittany Lion <dsweeney@...> wrote: Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to your child versus
them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter books for
hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD. As a result I don't
read as much as I would if she didn't listen to them. But when I do, my
kids don't sit there and look at the words anyway. Thoughts?
Dawn
Nittany Lion <dsweeney@...> wrote: Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to your child versus
them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter books for
hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD. As a result I don't
read as much as I would if she didn't listen to them. But when I do, my
kids don't sit there and look at the words anyway. Thoughts?
Dawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Beth" <mbdaught@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
>I guess I am the slow learner. I took me 10 years to figure out that
> kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
> ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is fun.
>
> I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
> the best thing I could do with them.
>
> I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
> helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
> but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
> learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
> interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
> I.
>
> I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
> but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
> sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
> Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
> Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
> American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
> him.
>
> My third is a daugher who I found trying to read Alphaphonics by her
> night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
> writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
> She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
> reader and loves foreign languages.
>
> My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
> read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
> she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
> stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
> not having anything to read?"
>
> Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Literary Child
<<When a child says, "I want to learn to read", it may not be their own
desire but pressure from others (friends, grandparents maybe).>>
This was not the case in our family. No one we know would ever push a 3 or
4 year old to learn to read. I believe that is very early and it would
never have been my idea. There is no pressure for my kids to do anything.
<<While textbooks can be useful from time to time, many *beginning
appeal of unschooling to me was the lack of teaching materials and structure
necessary.
If a child and/or parent thinks that learning means the parent gets out a
human anatomy, he takes out one of his many books on the subject. How is
that not unschooling?
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
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desire but pressure from others (friends, grandparents maybe).>>
This was not the case in our family. No one we know would ever push a 3 or
4 year old to learn to read. I believe that is very early and it would
never have been my idea. There is no pressure for my kids to do anything.
<<While textbooks can be useful from time to time, many *beginning
> unschoolers* eagerly await the day when their child asks to use one, seeingWhile that may be true for others, it's certainly not the case for me. The
> that as child-led learning.>>
appeal of unschooling to me was the lack of teaching materials and structure
necessary.
If a child and/or parent thinks that learning means the parent gets out a
> particular book to learn a particular subject, then unschooling isn't reallyI disagree. My son learns from books every day. If he wants to learn about
> happening yet in that family.
human anatomy, he takes out one of his many books on the subject. How is
that not unschooling?
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
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Literary Child
<s.waynforth@...> wrote:
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
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>That made me really laugh!! :) :)
> I'm crap at listening. When someone is talking half the time I'm
> preparing my witty response instead of honestly listening to what they
> are saying.
Noelle
http://literarychild.com
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Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Joyce Fetteroll wrote:
Did you mean, at the end, "in terms of general principles" or "in
general principles" or "in general terms"?
Because if you don't save it, I wanted to.
Sandra
> It *is* hard to step back from specific examples of what worked for aI hope you'll save that response somewhere.
> particular family and think and offer advice in terms general
> principles.
Did you mean, at the end, "in terms of general principles" or "in
general principles" or "in general terms"?
Because if you don't save it, I wanted to.
Sandra
Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Mary Beth wrote:
American.
We went yesterday. I had been the day before, with Holly. I had
brought my own book, and saw him standing in front of the wall rack
of magazines. I said "There's a Scientific American over there" and
showed him the corner table and he picked it right up.
We used to get it until a couple of years ago, but it wasn't being
read as well as some others. I'm kinda thinking of getting it again
because Marty reads that every time he goes there and then tells me
the cool things he read (yesterday it was that the time/space
continuum might be liquid), but he never has twenty minutes he has to
just sit at home, and I doubt he would read it here. He's really
busy lately.
He wasn't taught to read. His breakthrough came with a player's
guide, bought used. I cut the binding off and put every page in a
sheet protector and he decorated a canvas-covered three-ring binder
for it. By the time he got tired of that video game, he could read,
too. Breath of Fire III, I think. I photographed it for the book
Moving a Puddle, but it's in black and white there. I'll put it
here: http://sandradodd.com/r/sandra . He still owns it, and it's
more raggedy than it once was. There's also a photo of the first
book Holly read. The one after that was The Body, by Stephen King
(which isn't technically a book, but a novella; for a second reading
choice, it's book enough).
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/5Dodd.htm
There's an article about how my kids learned to read.
There are more, shorter bits, here:
http://sandradodd.com/reading (along with other families' natural
reading stories)
Sandra
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> He picks up ScientificWhen Marty goes to the orthodontist, he always reads Scientific
> American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
> him.
American.
We went yesterday. I had been the day before, with Holly. I had
brought my own book, and saw him standing in front of the wall rack
of magazines. I said "There's a Scientific American over there" and
showed him the corner table and he picked it right up.
We used to get it until a couple of years ago, but it wasn't being
read as well as some others. I'm kinda thinking of getting it again
because Marty reads that every time he goes there and then tells me
the cool things he read (yesterday it was that the time/space
continuum might be liquid), but he never has twenty minutes he has to
just sit at home, and I doubt he would read it here. He's really
busy lately.
He wasn't taught to read. His breakthrough came with a player's
guide, bought used. I cut the binding off and put every page in a
sheet protector and he decorated a canvas-covered three-ring binder
for it. By the time he got tired of that video game, he could read,
too. Breath of Fire III, I think. I photographed it for the book
Moving a Puddle, but it's in black and white there. I'll put it
here: http://sandradodd.com/r/sandra . He still owns it, and it's
more raggedy than it once was. There's also a photo of the first
book Holly read. The one after that was The Body, by Stephen King
(which isn't technically a book, but a novella; for a second reading
choice, it's book enough).
http://www.livefreelearnfree.com/5Dodd.htm
There's an article about how my kids learned to read.
There are more, shorter bits, here:
http://sandradodd.com/reading (along with other families' natural
reading stories)
Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Literary Child wrote:
The purpose of the list is to discuss unschooling. From THAT
individuals can choose what's right for their family.
If something is posted that is in conflict with the ideals of
unschooling, that will probably be noted, not for sorting of people,
but for polishing ideas.
http://sandradodd.com/lists/info
I think that's really clear in the posting guidelines.
Sandra
> She can take everyone'sBut the purpose of the list isn't to help individuals just however.
> ideas and choose what is right for her family.
The purpose of the list is to discuss unschooling. From THAT
individuals can choose what's right for their family.
If something is posted that is in conflict with the ideals of
unschooling, that will probably be noted, not for sorting of people,
but for polishing ideas.
http://sandradodd.com/lists/info
I think that's really clear in the posting guidelines.
Sandra
[email protected]
===This was not the case in our family. No one we know would ever push a 3 or
4 year old to learn to read. I believe that is very early and it would
never have been my idea. There is no pressure for my kids to do anything.==
This is how it was with my oldest. At 4 she wanted to know how to read. She only had an older cousin that is 2 years older. No one even thought about her reading. She wanted to know what the things on the page meant. She learned very quickly and hasn't stopped reading since.
NOW my middle child reads ONLY when she has too. She will read if she is playing a game or other instructions. But she does not get 12 books from the library every other week.
Michelle
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4 year old to learn to read. I believe that is very early and it would
never have been my idea. There is no pressure for my kids to do anything.==
This is how it was with my oldest. At 4 she wanted to know how to read. She only had an older cousin that is 2 years older. No one even thought about her reading. She wanted to know what the things on the page meant. She learned very quickly and hasn't stopped reading since.
NOW my middle child reads ONLY when she has too. She will read if she is playing a game or other instructions. But she does not get 12 books from the library every other week.
Michelle
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Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:07 AM, nellebelle wrote:
the car. There were a few times we'd reach our destination and keep
sitting there. One time we motioned others who had come up to the
car to welcome us to wait, because Dave Schmave the Elevator Man
wasn't through with his story and we HAD to know!
Sandra
> One difference is that reading to them is doing something togetherWhen we used to listen to Boomerang tapes, that was always done in
> and you both experience the story. Do you listen with your child?
the car. There were a few times we'd reach our destination and keep
sitting there. One time we motioned others who had come up to the
car to welcome us to wait, because Dave Schmave the Elevator Man
wasn't through with his story and we HAD to know!
Sandra
Mary Beth
I just noticed that I typed "infection" instead of "inflection"...that
is what comes of being medical transcriptionist, I guess!
I have always tried to read with accents and inflection. When my
daughter is reading to her animals, we hear the same from her room. I
would imagine that books on tape would have some pretty good readers
on them, but I always enjoy doing the reading myself because I am not
a good listener. The kids usually pull out a clipboard and begin to
draw while I read aloud and can listen until I am hoarse.
I was given "Reading Lolita in Tehran" on CD as a gift and have yet to
open it. Maybe if I crochet while listening....
Mary Beth
is what comes of being medical transcriptionist, I guess!
I have always tried to read with accents and inflection. When my
daughter is reading to her animals, we hear the same from her room. I
would imagine that books on tape would have some pretty good readers
on them, but I always enjoy doing the reading myself because I am not
a good listener. The kids usually pull out a clipboard and begin to
draw while I read aloud and can listen until I am hoarse.
I was given "Reading Lolita in Tehran" on CD as a gift and have yet to
open it. Maybe if I crochet while listening....
Mary Beth
--- In [email protected], "Mary Beth" <mbdaught@...> wrote:
>
> I guess I am the slow learner. I took me 10 years to figure out that
> kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
> ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is
fun.
>
> I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
> the best thing I could do with them.
>
> I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
> helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
> but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
> learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
> interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
> I.
>
> I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
> but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
> sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
> Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
> Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
> American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
> him.
>
> My third is a daugher who I found trying to read Alphaphonics by her
> night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
> writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
> She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
> reader and loves foreign languages.
>
> My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
> read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
> she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
> stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
> not having anything to read?"
>
> Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
>
Sandra Dodd
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:27 AM, JENNIFER MARTIN wrote:
Don't yell.
(This seems hostile, doesn't it??????)
-=Does any of that matter??-=-
Any of what? Any of your fear?
What is the purpose of reading? (Don't answer to us, think it deeply
in yourself.)
What is the purpose of Harry Potter?
If you listen to a song without reading along with the lyrics, is
that worthless?
If you watch a movie without reading the script at the same time, are
you failing to take in character/plot/narrative?
Learning doesn't require reading. There are millions of things to
learn that can be learned by someone who doesn't read yet, and
millions of things that could never be learned by reading. The
assembly line and the sorting/grading of school revolves around
reading. We don't need to repeat that model at home. We need NOT to
repeat that model at home.
Sandra
> Do they follow along with the Harry Potter books in the books as itHEY!!!!!!!!!
> is read to them???? If not how is that helping them to put the
> words with the sounds they make or at least see how the word looks
> that is being read to them??
Don't yell.
(This seems hostile, doesn't it??????)
-=Does any of that matter??-=-
Any of what? Any of your fear?
What is the purpose of reading? (Don't answer to us, think it deeply
in yourself.)
What is the purpose of Harry Potter?
If you listen to a song without reading along with the lyrics, is
that worthless?
If you watch a movie without reading the script at the same time, are
you failing to take in character/plot/narrative?
Learning doesn't require reading. There are millions of things to
learn that can be learned by someone who doesn't read yet, and
millions of things that could never be learned by reading. The
assembly line and the sorting/grading of school revolves around
reading. We don't need to repeat that model at home. We need NOT to
repeat that model at home.
Sandra
Nittany Lion
No, I don't listen to the CD's with her. A side note, she has strabismus
and amblyopia (inward turning of one eye and and bit of a loss of vision in
that eye). She is not a visual person. Even when I do read to her she does
other stuff - plays with toys or draws. Its difficult for her to read
regular print - she wears glasses which helps but its fustrating for her to
look at small (regular size) letters/words. She writes alot (I spell) and
that seems to be where she is picking up word recognition.
Dawn
and amblyopia (inward turning of one eye and and bit of a loss of vision in
that eye). She is not a visual person. Even when I do read to her she does
other stuff - plays with toys or draws. Its difficult for her to read
regular print - she wears glasses which helps but its fustrating for her to
look at small (regular size) letters/words. She writes alot (I spell) and
that seems to be where she is picking up word recognition.
Dawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "nellebelle" <nellebelle@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
> =-=-=-=-=-=Is there much of a difference in the benefit of reading to your
> child versus them listening to books on CD??=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> One difference is that reading to them is doing something together and you
> both experience the story. Do you listen with your child?
>
> Jackie (10) loves audiobooks and sometimes listens for hours. She usually
> is doing something else at the same time - playing with toys, drawing,
> etc. She usually listens in the kitchen, so I often listen too while
> cooking, etc. Sometimes she listens in her room.
>
> I sometimes listen to books, rather than read. It's great for
> multi-tasking as I can use my hands for laundry or something else while
> listening.
>
> Even if all your child's books were listened to, rather than read, they
> would still encounter print in other daily activities - signs, packages,
> notes, computer.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Nittany Lion
But none of my kids sit there and follow the words as I read to them when I
do read to them. No, my dd isn't reading yet. She will be 7 in May though.
She does understand and know letters and the sounds they make - she can
verbalize it.
Dawn
do read to them. No, my dd isn't reading yet. She will be 7 in May though.
She does understand and know letters and the sounds they make - she can
verbalize it.
Dawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "JENNIFER MARTIN" <beautifulgoddessmommy@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
Do they follow along with the Harry Potter books in the books as it is read
to them???? If not how is that helping them to put the words with the sounds
they make or at least see how the word looks that is being read to them??
Does any of that matter?? Can the child read??
Nittany Lion <dsweeney@...> wrote: Is there much of a difference in
the benefit of reading to your child versus
them listening to books on CD?? My 7yo can listen to Harry Potter books for
hours and listens to quite a few other books on CD. As a result I don't
read as much as I would if she didn't listen to them. But when I do, my
kids don't sit there and look at the words anyway. Thoughts?
Dawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Beth" <mbdaught@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
>I guess I am the slow learner. I took me 10 years to figure out that
> kids do not need to be taught to read but will read when they are
> ready, when it is something they are interested in, and when it is fun.
>
> I always enjoyed reading aloud to all my kids and that was probably
> the best thing I could do with them.
>
> I sat down and tried using phonics workbooks with my first son. I
> helped him sound out books that I thought were good ones. He read,
> but did not love it until he began reading computer stuff. From this I
> learned that what I find an interesting read is not what my boys found
> interesting. Also, this guy remembers what he hears much better than
> I.
>
> I was a bit more laid back with my second son. I did a little phonics
> but started collecting Calvin and Hobbes which he loved and he would
> sit for hours with those and that is where reading began for him.
> Then, comic books and manga. Now, he reads Chaim Potok, Isaac Asimov,
> Tolkein, Dracula, and assorted things. He picks up Scientific
> American or National Geographic if he sees an article that interests
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> night light one night. She liked the funny sentences. She liked
> writing notes to me. She liked word games. Then, Calvin and Hobbes.
> She would occasionally ask for help with words. She is an excellent
> reader and loves foreign languages.
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> My fourth daughter did not do any phonics or lessons of any type. I
> read a lot to her. Her older sister read a lot to her. And, one day
> she was reading on her own. She now reads to her older sister and her
> stuffed animals with wonderful infection. She says, "Can you imagine
> not having anything to read?"
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> Mary Beth, one mom's journey into reading
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Thank you Sandra. I will say that my dd can make magical potions, cast
spells and get rid of evil thanks to Harry Potter! <grin> She desperatly
wants to read Harry Potter books and I know it will come with time, I
beleive her vision is an issue, fustrating for her mostly.
Dawn
spells and get rid of evil thanks to Harry Potter! <grin> She desperatly
wants to read Harry Potter books and I know it will come with time, I
beleive her vision is an issue, fustrating for her mostly.
Dawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Dodd" <Sandra@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Teaching a Child to Read ...
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> On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:27 AM, JENNIFER MARTIN wrote:
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>> Do they follow along with the Harry Potter books in the books as it
>> is read to them???? If not how is that helping them to put the
>> words with the sounds they make or at least see how the word looks
>> that is being read to them??
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> HEY!!!!!!!!!
> Don't yell.
> (This seems hostile, doesn't it??????)
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> -=Does any of that matter??-=-
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> Any of what? Any of your fear?
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> What is the purpose of reading? (Don't answer to us, think it deeply
> in yourself.)
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> What is the purpose of Harry Potter?
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> If you listen to a song without reading along with the lyrics, is
> that worthless?
> If you watch a movie without reading the script at the same time, are
> you failing to take in character/plot/narrative?
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> Learning doesn't require reading. There are millions of things to
> learn that can be learned by someone who doesn't read yet, and
> millions of things that could never be learned by reading. The
> assembly line and the sorting/grading of school revolves around
> reading. We don't need to repeat that model at home. We need NOT to
> repeat that model at home.
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> Sandra
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