Hello
Dawn Falbe
Dawn in Tucson here. I heard at my homeschooling meeting that Sandra had
started a new group (yes I know it was last year now) and I decided it would
be a good forum for me to join.
We are now into month 5 of unschooling and I'm finding that I'm letting go a
lot more. I became so overwhelmed when I first started because I tried to
sign Zak up for everything anytime he mentioned he was interested in
something. So finally we are cutting all the way back and letting us live a
bit more.
So question from me is how long does it take for me to be "deschooled"?
Happy to have a place that I can come to.
Dawn
********************
Dawn Falbe
Astrologer Coach
(520) 312-5300
********************
www.astrologerdawn.com
dawn@...
Enlightening you on how to discover and live your Soul Purpose
"The people who get on in this world are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." - George
Bernard Shaw
"The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school" -
George Bernard Shaw
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started a new group (yes I know it was last year now) and I decided it would
be a good forum for me to join.
We are now into month 5 of unschooling and I'm finding that I'm letting go a
lot more. I became so overwhelmed when I first started because I tried to
sign Zak up for everything anytime he mentioned he was interested in
something. So finally we are cutting all the way back and letting us live a
bit more.
So question from me is how long does it take for me to be "deschooled"?
Happy to have a place that I can come to.
Dawn
********************
Dawn Falbe
Astrologer Coach
(520) 312-5300
********************
www.astrologerdawn.com
dawn@...
Enlightening you on how to discover and live your Soul Purpose
"The people who get on in this world are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." - George
Bernard Shaw
"The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school" -
George Bernard Shaw
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In a message dated 1/8/2002 6:48:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dawn@... writes:
sounds cool and we get way too involved in too much activity. I know other
people who have to coax their kids into getting involved in stuff -- but that
isn't a problem here. I think one role of the parent is to know when to coax
and when to limit. Kids sometimes can't project into the future well enough
to predict what life will be like if they do just this one more activity. And
they probably won't realize that the stress from juggling too many activities
is getting to them.
--pam
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dawn@... writes:
> I became so overwhelmed when I first started because I tried toI use the "make-em-beg-for-it" rule. Otherwise my kids think EVERYTHING
> sign Zak up for everything anytime he mentioned he was interested in
> something.
sounds cool and we get way too involved in too much activity. I know other
people who have to coax their kids into getting involved in stuff -- but that
isn't a problem here. I think one role of the parent is to know when to coax
and when to limit. Kids sometimes can't project into the future well enough
to predict what life will be like if they do just this one more activity. And
they probably won't realize that the stress from juggling too many activities
is getting to them.
--pam
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Diane
A rule of thumb I've heard mentioned is one month of deschooling for every year
you were in school (everything--including nursery, preschool, university, and
graduate school).
:-) Diane
Dawn Falbe wrote:
you were in school (everything--including nursery, preschool, university, and
graduate school).
:-) Diane
Dawn Falbe wrote:
> So question from me is how long does it take for me to be "deschooled"?
>
> Happy to have a place that I can come to.
>
> Dawn
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/8/02 7:48:28 PM, dawn@... writes:
<< So question from me is how long does it take for me to be "deschooled"? >>
How long were you in school, or supporting school, or being school-like? One
month per year is the general prediction.
<< So question from me is how long does it take for me to be "deschooled"? >>
How long were you in school, or supporting school, or being school-like? One
month per year is the general prediction.
heasue2003
Hello,
My name is Heather. I am the mother of an 11 week old boy. I am
married and our family will soon be joined by my 3 year old niece
whom we are adopting. I have just recently started reading the
book `Homeschooling our Children and Unschooling Ourselves' by Alison
McKee. I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
Heather
My name is Heather. I am the mother of an 11 week old boy. I am
married and our family will soon be joined by my 3 year old niece
whom we are adopting. I have just recently started reading the
book `Homeschooling our Children and Unschooling Ourselves' by Alison
McKee. I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
Heather
coyote's corner
Hi Heather,
Welcome. Congratulations on your babies.
Our warmest wishes for you and your family.
Janis
Welcome. Congratulations on your babies.
Our warmest wishes for you and your family.
Janis
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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
Hello,
My name is Heather. I am the mother of an 11 week old boy. I am
married and our family will soon be joined by my 3 year old niece
whom we are adopting. I have just recently started reading the
book `Homeschooling our Children and Unschooling Ourselves' by Alison
McKee. I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
Heather
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In a message dated 7/10/03 4:06:28 PM, kellyandheather@... writes:
<< I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
Click on John Holt when you get there, and you can read some without waiting
to buy books.
Sandra
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/unschooling">UNSCHOOLING</A>
<< I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
>>I have some John Holt writings and interviews linked from my page.
http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
Click on John Holt when you get there, and you can read some without waiting
to buy books.
Sandra
<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/unschooling">UNSCHOOLING</A>
BADOLBILZ
Hi Heather. Congratulations on your growing family and your choosing to
unschool now. I wish I'd known years ago. I hope there are no sad
circumstances in your adopting your niece. I wish you luck and happiness.
HeidiCase
heasue2003 wrote:
unschool now. I wish I'd known years ago. I hope there are no sad
circumstances in your adopting your niece. I wish you luck and happiness.
HeidiCase
heasue2003 wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Heather. I am the mother of an 11 week old boy. I am
> married and our family will soon be joined by my 3 year old niece
> whom we are adopting. I have just recently started reading the
> book `Homeschooling our Children and Unschooling Ourselves' by Alison
> McKee. I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
> The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
>
> Heather
>
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Excellent!-
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-- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>without waiting
> In a message dated 7/10/03 4:06:28 PM, kellyandheather@h... writes:
>
> << I am really interested in reading what John Holt has wrote.
>
> The more I read about unschooling the more I love the idea.
>
> >>
>
> I have some John Holt writings and interviews linked from my page.
>
> http://sandradodd.com/unschooling
>
> Click on John Holt when you get there, and you can read some
> to buy books.
>
> Sandra
> <A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/unschooling">UNSCHOOLING</A>
Sylvie Martin
Hello everybody,
My name is Sylvie, I'm french, mom of Tom, 5 years old, and Lilou, 2 years old.
It's a little bit difficult for me to write in english...
Il live in France and our children never went to school and wont go. Only if they want, for the collège, maybe ?
I read some articles from Sandra Dodd that I found passionating ! It's new for me because unschooling doesn't really exist in France. Almost everybody ignore what it means. It's difficult here, because we are controlled once a year from 6 years old to 16.
I just discovering "deschooling", and it talks to me so much...
I'm discovering John Holt too, and lot of books with unschooling. For me, it's like if it was a family I looked for a long time.
I try to be like I would like to be with my children, less controling what they eat, when they sleep, what they do, etc... I really try because I felt something in me, recently, something let go... I feel inside the unschooling, but something is hard for me, the TV ! I would like to be convinced that if I let Tom look like he wants, one day he will be interested in the real life... I know that we have, as parents, to propose then a joyfull life, an interesting life. But it's not. We try to, we leave in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go outside when they want, but they don't... Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the evening, he could watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him do. But for the moment, we can't...
When I was a child, I watched the TV all the time. It was special, because my mother could not stand that I could do other things. She needed me to be near her watching TV..
I think TV saved my life, really... For me, being a child was horrible, going to school was a nightmare, and TV helped me to forget this life.
I hope my children don't feel like I felt when I was a child. I don't think so...
It's just when I think about the outside, the nature is so beautifull, and Tom prefer being in front of the TV unstead of being outside playing or running or screaming. It disturb me a lot.
Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this way entirely for going out one day ? Oh ! It's so difficult to explain in english ! Maybe you will not understand what I mean...
He's a giftes child. We had to learn to understand him for a long time. It's better now.
For the moment, I'm reading "The unschooling handbook", and "playfull parenting". I like them. I have difficulties for playing... Certainly because I'm a unique child, and noone played with me when I was a child.... I'm learning again. But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
I know it's not very clear, I hope you will understand what I mean.
Thanks
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
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My name is Sylvie, I'm french, mom of Tom, 5 years old, and Lilou, 2 years old.
It's a little bit difficult for me to write in english...
Il live in France and our children never went to school and wont go. Only if they want, for the collège, maybe ?
I read some articles from Sandra Dodd that I found passionating ! It's new for me because unschooling doesn't really exist in France. Almost everybody ignore what it means. It's difficult here, because we are controlled once a year from 6 years old to 16.
I just discovering "deschooling", and it talks to me so much...
I'm discovering John Holt too, and lot of books with unschooling. For me, it's like if it was a family I looked for a long time.
I try to be like I would like to be with my children, less controling what they eat, when they sleep, what they do, etc... I really try because I felt something in me, recently, something let go... I feel inside the unschooling, but something is hard for me, the TV ! I would like to be convinced that if I let Tom look like he wants, one day he will be interested in the real life... I know that we have, as parents, to propose then a joyfull life, an interesting life. But it's not. We try to, we leave in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go outside when they want, but they don't... Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the evening, he could watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him do. But for the moment, we can't...
When I was a child, I watched the TV all the time. It was special, because my mother could not stand that I could do other things. She needed me to be near her watching TV..
I think TV saved my life, really... For me, being a child was horrible, going to school was a nightmare, and TV helped me to forget this life.
I hope my children don't feel like I felt when I was a child. I don't think so...
It's just when I think about the outside, the nature is so beautifull, and Tom prefer being in front of the TV unstead of being outside playing or running or screaming. It disturb me a lot.
Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this way entirely for going out one day ? Oh ! It's so difficult to explain in english ! Maybe you will not understand what I mean...
He's a giftes child. We had to learn to understand him for a long time. It's better now.
For the moment, I'm reading "The unschooling handbook", and "playfull parenting". I like them. I have difficulties for playing... Certainly because I'm a unique child, and noone played with me when I was a child.... I'm learning again. But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
I know it's not very clear, I hope you will understand what I mean.
Thanks
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
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In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:52:33 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
eliott2@... writes:
We try to, we leave in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go
outside when they want, but they don't...
------------------
Making them go outside won't make them love being outside. My mom used to
say "Get your head out of that book and go outside and play." It only made
me like my mom less, and hate my yard, and wish I were far away.
-=- Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks about TV
all the day ! =-
Because it was controlled before it was made valuable.
Now he's rich, and can do the valuable things all he wants to.
If you controlled it before, you're the one who declared it wonderfully big
and important. Let him feel rich, then. Not only will he get tired of it,
but in the meantime you should watch what he's watching and see what he's
learning and why he likes the shows he likes. You could learn a lot too.
Maybe you've already seen this:
_http://sandradodd.com/tv_ (http://sandradodd.com/tv)
Lots of moms have written about how their own beliefs changed when they went
where their children were. Being with our children shouldn't (can't) always
mean making our children be where we are. WITH them, where they are,
sometimes means mentally, and emotionally.
-=-Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this
way entirely for going out one day ?-=-
Everyone involved has to change their habits and beliefs and relationships
for unschooling to work. It seems that it would be a big job, but once you
get started, if you change some of the principles on which you make your other
decisions each decision starts to become easier and easier. If peace
outranks schedules, that helps you decide. If joy outranks structure, that helps.
If learning outranks rules, that helps.
-=-I have difficulties for playing... Certainly because I'm a unique child,
and noone played with me when I was a child....-=-
_http://sandradodd.com/playing_ (http://sandradodd.com/playing)
Not one of the best articles ever, but has some good links.
-=-But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
-=-
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.
There might be something here you didn't already know about, as to European
homeschooling connections. (Probably not, but maybe.)
_http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise_
(http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise)
Sandra
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eliott2@... writes:
We try to, we leave in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go
outside when they want, but they don't...
------------------
Making them go outside won't make them love being outside. My mom used to
say "Get your head out of that book and go outside and play." It only made
me like my mom less, and hate my yard, and wish I were far away.
-=- Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks about TV
all the day ! =-
Because it was controlled before it was made valuable.
Now he's rich, and can do the valuable things all he wants to.
If you controlled it before, you're the one who declared it wonderfully big
and important. Let him feel rich, then. Not only will he get tired of it,
but in the meantime you should watch what he's watching and see what he's
learning and why he likes the shows he likes. You could learn a lot too.
Maybe you've already seen this:
_http://sandradodd.com/tv_ (http://sandradodd.com/tv)
Lots of moms have written about how their own beliefs changed when they went
where their children were. Being with our children shouldn't (can't) always
mean making our children be where we are. WITH them, where they are,
sometimes means mentally, and emotionally.
-=-Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this
way entirely for going out one day ?-=-
Everyone involved has to change their habits and beliefs and relationships
for unschooling to work. It seems that it would be a big job, but once you
get started, if you change some of the principles on which you make your other
decisions each decision starts to become easier and easier. If peace
outranks schedules, that helps you decide. If joy outranks structure, that helps.
If learning outranks rules, that helps.
-=-I have difficulties for playing... Certainly because I'm a unique child,
and noone played with me when I was a child....-=-
_http://sandradodd.com/playing_ (http://sandradodd.com/playing)
Not one of the best articles ever, but has some good links.
-=-But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
-=-
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.
There might be something here you didn't already know about, as to European
homeschooling connections. (Probably not, but maybe.)
_http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise_
(http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise)
Sandra
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queenjane555
**Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks
about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the evening, he could
watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him do. But
for the moment, we can't... **
I think he is "obsessed" with tv right now, because he is trying to
get enough of it before you change your mind and turn it off. My son
(8 years old)has few restrictions on tv watching or
videogame/computer use (the main restriction would be if someone
else is watching/using those items)...he might go days without
playing videogames, and then do nothing (seemingly)BUT play for
days.
The television is a pretty exciting piece of equipment, lots of fun
things to see on there. We just recently got digital cable at my
mom's house where i stay (had basic cable before that), and for
awhile i watched alot of movies. And when we got internet hooked up
here i could barely pull myself away, but after awhile the novelty
wears off. If your son knows he can watch tv whenever he wants, he
may be more willing to leave it knowing it will be there when he
comes back. Does that make sense?
Katherine
about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the evening, he could
watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him do. But
for the moment, we can't... **
I think he is "obsessed" with tv right now, because he is trying to
get enough of it before you change your mind and turn it off. My son
(8 years old)has few restrictions on tv watching or
videogame/computer use (the main restriction would be if someone
else is watching/using those items)...he might go days without
playing videogames, and then do nothing (seemingly)BUT play for
days.
The television is a pretty exciting piece of equipment, lots of fun
things to see on there. We just recently got digital cable at my
mom's house where i stay (had basic cable before that), and for
awhile i watched alot of movies. And when we got internet hooked up
here i could barely pull myself away, but after awhile the novelty
wears off. If your son knows he can watch tv whenever he wants, he
may be more willing to leave it knowing it will be there when he
comes back. Does that make sense?
Katherine
J. Stauffer
<<<<I read some articles from Sandra Dodd that I found passionating ! >>>>
For someone who doesn't feel they write easily in English, this is probably
the best description of Sandra's articles I have ever come across <grin>.
Julie S.
For someone who doesn't feel they write easily in English, this is probably
the best description of Sandra's articles I have ever come across <grin>.
Julie S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvie Martin" <eliott2@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:07 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
Hello everybody,
My name is Sylvie, I'm french, mom of Tom, 5 years old, and Lilou, 2 years
old.
It's a little bit difficult for me to write in english...
Il live in France and our children never went to school and wont go. Only if
they want, for the collège, maybe ?
I read some articles from Sandra Dodd that I found passionating ! It's new
for me because unschooling doesn't really exist in France. Almost everybody
ignore what it means. It's difficult here, because we are controlled once a
year from 6 years old to 16.
I just discovering "deschooling", and it talks to me so much...
I'm discovering John Holt too, and lot of books with unschooling. For me,
it's like if it was a family I looked for a long time.
I try to be like I would like to be with my children, less controling what
they eat, when they sleep, what they do, etc... I really try because I felt
something in me, recently, something let go... I feel inside the
unschooling, but something is hard for me, the TV ! I would like to be
convinced that if I let Tom look like he wants, one day he will be
interested in the real life... I know that we have, as parents, to propose
then a joyfull life, an interesting life. But it's not. We try to, we leave
in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go outside when they
want, but they don't... Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go
conventions, he thinks about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the
evening, he could watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him
do. But for the moment, we can't...
When I was a child, I watched the TV all the time. It was special, because
my mother could not stand that I could do other things. She needed me to be
near her watching TV..
I think TV saved my life, really... For me, being a child was horrible,
going to school was a nightmare, and TV helped me to forget this life.
I hope my children don't feel like I felt when I was a child. I don't think
so...
It's just when I think about the outside, the nature is so beautifull, and
Tom prefer being in front of the TV unstead of being outside playing or
running or screaming. It disturb me a lot.
Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this way
entirely for going out one day ? Oh ! It's so difficult to explain in
english ! Maybe you will not understand what I mean...
He's a giftes child. We had to learn to understand him for a long time. It's
better now.
For the moment, I'm reading "The unschooling handbook", and "playfull
parenting". I like them. I have difficulties for playing... Certainly
because I'm a unique child, and noone played with me when I was a child....
I'm learning again. But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking
to play !
I know it's not very clear, I hope you will understand what I mean.
Thanks
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
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Making them go outside won't make them love being outside.
***************** But they like being outside, playing in the snow, skiing, etc... At the present, Tom now prefer staying inside and watch TV. When he was little, he liked going outside a lot, but he's not used to go by himself, because we were in an appartment, with a dangerous road. Now that he can, he doesn't. I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his enthusiasm. Lilou has it, and seing her today makes me remember that Tom was the same.
If you controlled it before, you're the one who declared it wonderfully big
and important. Let him feel rich, then. Not only will he get tired of it,
but in the meantime you should watch what he's watching and see what he's
learning and why he likes the shows he likes. You could learn a lot too.
******************************* This is what I was thinking, after reading articles on it. He likes cartoons, he's looking the same again and again... I'm afraid by TV airs, for health, by my child doesn't breath fresh air, he has his eyes flowing.
Lots of moms have written about how their own beliefs changed when they went
where their children were. Being with our children shouldn't (can't) always
mean making our children be where we are. WITH them, where they are,
sometimes means mentally, and emotionally.
******************************** Yes, I just try to start to be where he is.. It's so difficult for me, because of my stress I guess... And because it makes me anxious being where the children are. I don't know why. Playing makes me anxious...
But I can understand how he feel in front on TV, because I like it too. It's like when I read a book, even better. I feel better...
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.
**************** Oh ! Yes ! He's playing in his head. We can see it on his face !
Thank you for the links, I'm going to see them now.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
***************** But they like being outside, playing in the snow, skiing, etc... At the present, Tom now prefer staying inside and watch TV. When he was little, he liked going outside a lot, but he's not used to go by himself, because we were in an appartment, with a dangerous road. Now that he can, he doesn't. I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his enthusiasm. Lilou has it, and seing her today makes me remember that Tom was the same.
If you controlled it before, you're the one who declared it wonderfully big
and important. Let him feel rich, then. Not only will he get tired of it,
but in the meantime you should watch what he's watching and see what he's
learning and why he likes the shows he likes. You could learn a lot too.
******************************* This is what I was thinking, after reading articles on it. He likes cartoons, he's looking the same again and again... I'm afraid by TV airs, for health, by my child doesn't breath fresh air, he has his eyes flowing.
Lots of moms have written about how their own beliefs changed when they went
where their children were. Being with our children shouldn't (can't) always
mean making our children be where we are. WITH them, where they are,
sometimes means mentally, and emotionally.
******************************** Yes, I just try to start to be where he is.. It's so difficult for me, because of my stress I guess... And because it makes me anxious being where the children are. I don't know why. Playing makes me anxious...
But I can understand how he feel in front on TV, because I like it too. It's like when I read a book, even better. I feel better...
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.
**************** Oh ! Yes ! He's playing in his head. We can see it on his face !
Thank you for the links, I'm going to see them now.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:52:33 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
eliott2@... writes:
We try to, we leave in a beautifull place now, in the mountains, they can go
outside when they want, but they don't...
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Making them go outside won't make them love being outside. My mom used to
say "Get your head out of that book and go outside and play." It only made
me like my mom less, and hate my yard, and wish I were far away.
-=- Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks about TV
all the day ! =-
Because it was controlled before it was made valuable.
Now he's rich, and can do the valuable things all he wants to.
If you controlled it before, you're the one who declared it wonderfully big
and important. Let him feel rich, then. Not only will he get tired of it,
but in the meantime you should watch what he's watching and see what he's
learning and why he likes the shows he likes. You could learn a lot too.
Maybe you've already seen this:
_http://sandradodd.com/tv_ (http://sandradodd.com/tv)
Lots of moms have written about how their own beliefs changed when they went
where their children were. Being with our children shouldn't (can't) always
mean making our children be where we are. WITH them, where they are,
sometimes means mentally, and emotionally.
-=-Does he need to experiment the unschooling ? Does he need to go on this
way entirely for going out one day ?-=-
Everyone involved has to change their habits and beliefs and relationships
for unschooling to work. It seems that it would be a big job, but once you
get started, if you change some of the principles on which you make your other
decisions each decision starts to become easier and easier. If peace
outranks schedules, that helps you decide. If joy outranks structure, that helps.
If learning outranks rules, that helps.
-=-I have difficulties for playing... Certainly because I'm a unique child,
and noone played with me when I was a child....-=-
_http://sandradodd.com/playing_ (http://sandradodd.com/playing)
Not one of the best articles ever, but has some good links.
-=-But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
-=-
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.
There might be something here you didn't already know about, as to European
homeschooling connections. (Probably not, but maybe.)
_http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise_
(http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise)
Sandra
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jwvastine
We just recently got digital cable at my
from a totally off-grid home to one that's connected to everything!
We were very conservative in our use of electricity because we HAD
to be. Now, we even have water and ice coming out the door of the
fridge. Wow! As time has gone by I find myself not using these
things as much because, as you say, the novelty wears off. The same
is happening with the boys, they find different things to do through
out the day.
Judy
> mom's house where i stay (had basic cable before that), and forup
> awhile i watched alot of movies. And when we got internet hooked
> here i could barely pull myself away, but after awhile the noveltyHe-he-he, i have to say it was the same for me. We recently moved
> wears off.
from a totally off-grid home to one that's connected to everything!
We were very conservative in our use of electricity because we HAD
to be. Now, we even have water and ice coming out the door of the
fridge. Wow! As time has gone by I find myself not using these
things as much because, as you say, the novelty wears off. The same
is happening with the boys, they find different things to do through
out the day.
Judy
Sylvie Martin
If your son knows he can watch tv whenever he wants, he
may be more willing to leave it knowing it will be there when he
comes back. Does that make sense?
***************** Oh yes ! It make sense ! Something inside of me saying "let him do what he wants with tv, he knows what he needs", et on the other hand, an other voice saying "what are you doing ?! Don't you see you do anything ! He's going to be addicted, that's all !".
Thank you for your answer, Katherine.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
may be more willing to leave it knowing it will be there when he
comes back. Does that make sense?
***************** Oh yes ! It make sense ! Something inside of me saying "let him do what he wants with tv, he knows what he needs", et on the other hand, an other voice saying "what are you doing ?! Don't you see you do anything ! He's going to be addicted, that's all !".
Thank you for your answer, Katherine.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: queenjane555
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:21 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Hello
**Now that Tom is feeling we try to let go conventions, he thinks
about TV all the day ! When he wake up to the evening, he could
watch the TV if we let him do. And maybe we should let him do. But
for the moment, we can't... **
I think he is "obsessed" with tv right now, because he is trying to
get enough of it before you change your mind and turn it off. My son
(8 years old)has few restrictions on tv watching or
videogame/computer use (the main restriction would be if someone
else is watching/using those items)...he might go days without
playing videogames, and then do nothing (seemingly)BUT play for
days.
The television is a pretty exciting piece of equipment, lots of fun
things to see on there. We just recently got digital cable at my
mom's house where i stay (had basic cable before that), and for
awhile i watched alot of movies. And when we got internet hooked up
here i could barely pull myself away, but after awhile the novelty
wears off. If your son knows he can watch tv whenever he wants, he
may be more willing to leave it knowing it will be there when he
comes back. Does that make sense?
Katherine
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****-=-But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
-=-
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.****
We've beginning our third year of unschooling. We let go of TV restrictions in the first couple of months and it's taken nearly two years for the TV to lose the power we gave it when we restricted it. My oldest boy has spent hundreds of hours in front of it preferring it to anything else. But it has been a rich time for him. I can see it in his games and stories. He has become interested in film making too and loves to dissect the plots of films and discuss the characters. It's been a good thing for him. I've had to grit my teeth and bite my tongue many many times, but I'm glad I did.
This morning he woke up and came and talked to me while I watered the garden, then he went and played under the trees until his brother woke up. All three kids are in his bedroom now playing. They might watch TV later, they might not. It doesn't matter. They are all happy and living in the moment fully. And Jess has come to a good place in himself with the help of the TV and the freedom to 'get lost' in it.
Julie
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Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.****
We've beginning our third year of unschooling. We let go of TV restrictions in the first couple of months and it's taken nearly two years for the TV to lose the power we gave it when we restricted it. My oldest boy has spent hundreds of hours in front of it preferring it to anything else. But it has been a rich time for him. I can see it in his games and stories. He has become interested in film making too and loves to dissect the plots of films and discuss the characters. It's been a good thing for him. I've had to grit my teeth and bite my tongue many many times, but I'm glad I did.
This morning he woke up and came and talked to me while I watered the garden, then he went and played under the trees until his brother woke up. All three kids are in his bedroom now playing. They might watch TV later, they might not. It doesn't matter. They are all happy and living in the moment fully. And Jess has come to a good place in himself with the help of the TV and the freedom to 'get lost' in it.
Julie
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Sylvie Martin
We've beginning our third year of unschooling. We let go of TV restrictions in the first couple of months and it's taken nearly two years for the TV to lose the power we gave it when we restricted it. My oldest boy has spent hundreds of hours in front of it preferring it to anything else. But it has been a rich time for him. I can see it in his games and stories.
******************** Waouh ! Two years ! And you were not anxious for the health ? Maybe it's a stupid question, but I always think about it...
Your mail is reassuring. I wish I could let him do like this...
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
******************** Waouh ! Two years ! And you were not anxious for the health ? Maybe it's a stupid question, but I always think about it...
Your mail is reassuring. I wish I could let him do like this...
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
****-=-But Tom is now so obssessed by TV that he stopped asking to play !
-=-
Maybe he's still playing in his head, though, playing with the ideas,
imagining himself in those situations, wondering how the voices and animation work.****
We've beginning our third year of unschooling. We let go of TV restrictions in the first couple of months and it's taken nearly two years for the TV to lose the power we gave it when we restricted it. My oldest boy has spent hundreds of hours in front of it preferring it to anything else. But it has been a rich time for him. I can see it in his games and stories. He has become interested in film making too and loves to dissect the plots of films and discuss the characters. It's been a good thing for him. I've had to grit my teeth and bite my tongue many many times, but I'm glad I did.
This morning he woke up and came and talked to me while I watered the garden, then he went and played under the trees until his brother woke up. All three kids are in his bedroom now playing. They might watch TV later, they might not. It doesn't matter. They are all happy and living in the moment fully. And Jess has come to a good place in himself with the help of the TV and the freedom to 'get lost' in it.
Julie
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Angela S
When he was little, he liked going outside a lot, but he's not used to go by
himself, because we were in an appartment, with a dangerous road. Now that
he can, he doesn't.
My kids are 8 and 10 and they still don't like to go out and play by
themselves. I can remember my mother saying, "It's too nice of a day to be
inside. Go outside and play." I've never said that to my kids. When I
feel like we could benefit from going outside, I go outside myself and
invite them along to do something fun. (ski, snow shoe, go sliding, play
baseball, walk to the farm next door, go swimming, ride the horse, etc.)
99% of the time, they take me up on it. Maybe you've tried these things?
Angela
game-enthusiast@....
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himself, because we were in an appartment, with a dangerous road. Now that
he can, he doesn't.
My kids are 8 and 10 and they still don't like to go out and play by
themselves. I can remember my mother saying, "It's too nice of a day to be
inside. Go outside and play." I've never said that to my kids. When I
feel like we could benefit from going outside, I go outside myself and
invite them along to do something fun. (ski, snow shoe, go sliding, play
baseball, walk to the farm next door, go swimming, ride the horse, etc.)
99% of the time, they take me up on it. Maybe you've tried these things?
Angela
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Angela S
Sylvie wrote:
"what are you doing ?! Don't you see you do anything ! He's going to be
addicted, that's all !".
He probably would have more of a chance of becoming addicted to it if it's
restricted during his whole childhood.
Angela
game-enthusiast@...
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"what are you doing ?! Don't you see you do anything ! He's going to be
addicted, that's all !".
He probably would have more of a chance of becoming addicted to it if it's
restricted during his whole childhood.
Angela
game-enthusiast@...
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[email protected]
In a message dated 1/10/05 4:41:54 AM, eliott2@... writes:
= But they like being outside, playing in the snow, skiing, etc... At the
present, Tom now prefer staying inside and watch TV. -=-
If he likes both and has an honest choice and is making what for him at that
moment is his best choice, that's good! Let him choose.
-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-
The outdoors are still there. He won't stay inside for the rest of his life.
He has enthusiasm, it's just not for what you wish he would choose. If he's
going to stay home instead of going to school, this will happen hundreds of
times and you can practice on this first conflict, and let it be a conflict
inside of you, not on the outside.
Sandra
= But they like being outside, playing in the snow, skiing, etc... At the
present, Tom now prefer staying inside and watch TV. -=-
If he likes both and has an honest choice and is making what for him at that
moment is his best choice, that's good! Let him choose.
-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-
The outdoors are still there. He won't stay inside for the rest of his life.
He has enthusiasm, it's just not for what you wish he would choose. If he's
going to stay home instead of going to school, this will happen hundreds of
times and you can practice on this first conflict, and let it be a conflict
inside of you, not on the outside.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/10/05 4:54:39 AM, eliott2@... writes:
<< Waouh ! Two years ! And you were not anxious for the health ? Maybe it's a
stupid question, but I always think about it...
and survive later. But he's NOT in traction or a cast or such a thing. He's
healthy (right?) and moving and happy and whole. What can be more healthy
than living freely in his own choices? Air isn't everything. Many sad people
are breathing clean air, but they don't breathe as deeply, and they wish they
were breathing different air, anywhere else.
Sandra
<< Waouh ! Two years ! And you were not anxious for the health ? Maybe it's a
stupid question, but I always think about it...
>>There are children who are in a hospital bed for two years, and they get out
and survive later. But he's NOT in traction or a cast or such a thing. He's
healthy (right?) and moving and happy and whole. What can be more healthy
than living freely in his own choices? Air isn't everything. Many sad people
are breathing clean air, but they don't breathe as deeply, and they wish they
were breathing different air, anywhere else.
Sandra
Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani
----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvie Martin
I'm afraid by TV airs, for health, by my child doesn't breath fresh air, he has his eyes flowing.
************************
If you are concerned about his quality of air, open a window for a few minutes or get an air cleaner. Either would benefit the whole family.
Nichole
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Hi Sylvie,
2 of my 3 seem to also focus on TV alot and I have taken Sandra's and others wisdom to keep the worry inside my head, stop "trying" to get them to do other things and be more with them, even when that means I am here on the computer and they are right in the same room watching TV. They tell me all kinds of things, Just now Tessa 5 said mom look at the TV, you need to know about this. She was seeing an insurance comercial. So I had a conversation about life insurance with my just turned 5 year old.
I do know my 2 girls would rather stay in when the weather is yucky, unless it is something really grand, like to the beach, or sledding or other very special activity. My son will go out half naked when ever to dance in the street, dual with an imaginary foe, or shot some baskets in the hoop out front.
Yesterday we were all in watching a Full House Marathon, when my oldest decided to go out and play with water balloons with a friend. Go figure. We had actually put the FH marathon on the calander so we all knew, and then 2 shows into it all 3 of mine plus the friend were outside between storms getting soaking wet in their clothes or bathing suits and it was 50 degrees outside. I too was there supporting this craziness by filling and tying as fast as I could with frozen fingers. 1 hour later we were in, 2 in the bath, 2 by the fire, drying and laughing.
Trust, relax, enjoy, and maybe get a project out so you can be with him and doing your own things too., though projects and 2 year olds have their own challenges.
Mary
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2 of my 3 seem to also focus on TV alot and I have taken Sandra's and others wisdom to keep the worry inside my head, stop "trying" to get them to do other things and be more with them, even when that means I am here on the computer and they are right in the same room watching TV. They tell me all kinds of things, Just now Tessa 5 said mom look at the TV, you need to know about this. She was seeing an insurance comercial. So I had a conversation about life insurance with my just turned 5 year old.
I do know my 2 girls would rather stay in when the weather is yucky, unless it is something really grand, like to the beach, or sledding or other very special activity. My son will go out half naked when ever to dance in the street, dual with an imaginary foe, or shot some baskets in the hoop out front.
Yesterday we were all in watching a Full House Marathon, when my oldest decided to go out and play with water balloons with a friend. Go figure. We had actually put the FH marathon on the calander so we all knew, and then 2 shows into it all 3 of mine plus the friend were outside between storms getting soaking wet in their clothes or bathing suits and it was 50 degrees outside. I too was there supporting this craziness by filling and tying as fast as I could with frozen fingers. 1 hour later we were in, 2 in the bath, 2 by the fire, drying and laughing.
Trust, relax, enjoy, and maybe get a project out so you can be with him and doing your own things too., though projects and 2 year olds have their own challenges.
Mary
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Elizabeth Hill
**
-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-**
Hi, Sylvie --
Was your son in school before? Because we talk here about a time period for "deschooling", for letting all the stress of school pass away. And during this time, a child may be passive, or very unoriginal, because he is trying to get rid of school ideas and find his own inspiration. (You can probably find a better description on Sandra's webpages.)
My son was never in school, and we never had significant TV restrictions, but when we moved we had poor reception which limited us to 3 clear channels and a few more that were hard to see.. Eventually we got a satellite TV service with 100 channels, some that ran cartoons all day. There was heavy viewing here for nearly 6 months, before it tapered off. I hadn't thought it would last so long, and it did bother me (but I didn't express that to my son). Because we were far from our friends, and struggled to find new friends, I think the TV usage was increased.
Betsy
-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-**
Hi, Sylvie --
Was your son in school before? Because we talk here about a time period for "deschooling", for letting all the stress of school pass away. And during this time, a child may be passive, or very unoriginal, because he is trying to get rid of school ideas and find his own inspiration. (You can probably find a better description on Sandra's webpages.)
My son was never in school, and we never had significant TV restrictions, but when we moved we had poor reception which limited us to 3 clear channels and a few more that were hard to see.. Eventually we got a satellite TV service with 100 channels, some that ran cartoons all day. There was heavy viewing here for nearly 6 months, before it tapered off. I hadn't thought it would last so long, and it did bother me (but I didn't express that to my son). Because we were far from our friends, and struggled to find new friends, I think the TV usage was increased.
Betsy
Sylvie Martin
Angela,
Now I'm doing like that, when I go outside, I tell them, and Tom say if he wants to come. Before that, I was deciding that we all go outside, without asking to them. It's new for me to change my mind with that. My readings help me a lot. For me now, it's normal to not force him to come with me, to ask him, but before, I didn't think about.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
Now I'm doing like that, when I go outside, I tell them, and Tom say if he wants to come. Before that, I was deciding that we all go outside, without asking to them. It's new for me to change my mind with that. My readings help me a lot. For me now, it's normal to not force him to come with me, to ask him, but before, I didn't think about.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Angela S
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
When he was little, he liked going outside a lot, but he's not used to go by
himself, because we were in an appartment, with a dangerous road. Now that
he can, he doesn't.
My kids are 8 and 10 and they still don't like to go out and play by
themselves. I can remember my mother saying, "It's too nice of a day to be
inside. Go outside and play." I've never said that to my kids. When I
feel like we could benefit from going outside, I go outside myself and
invite them along to do something fun. (ski, snow shoe, go sliding, play
baseball, walk to the farm next door, go swimming, ride the horse, etc.)
99% of the time, they take me up on it. Maybe you've tried these things?
Angela
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Sylvie Martin
If he's
going to stay home instead of going to school, this will happen hundreds of
times and you can practice on this first conflict, and let it be a conflict
inside of you, not on the outside.
************************** For me, it's very easy "thinking" that's right. Really. But I have so much difficulties to pass from the "thinking" to the "practice". I suppose it's because my own needs were not respected when I was a child. It's a war in my mind, having to fight against my limits and my fears. Reading all the answers on this list make a big difference for me.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
going to stay home instead of going to school, this will happen hundreds of
times and you can practice on this first conflict, and let it be a conflict
inside of you, not on the outside.
************************** For me, it's very easy "thinking" that's right. Really. But I have so much difficulties to pass from the "thinking" to the "practice". I suppose it's because my own needs were not respected when I was a child. It's a war in my mind, having to fight against my limits and my fears. Reading all the answers on this list make a big difference for me.
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
In a message dated 1/10/05 4:41:54 AM, eliott2@... writes:
= But they like being outside, playing in the snow, skiing, etc... At the
present, Tom now prefer staying inside and watch TV. -=-
If he likes both and has an honest choice and is making what for him at that
moment is his best choice, that's good! Let him choose.
-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-
The outdoors are still there. He won't stay inside for the rest of his life.
He has enthusiasm, it's just not for what you wish he would choose. If he's
going to stay home instead of going to school, this will happen hundreds of
times and you can practice on this first conflict, and let it be a conflict
inside of you, not on the outside.
Sandra
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Sylvie Martin
Betsy,
Was your son in school before? Because we talk here about a time period for "deschooling", for letting all the stress of school pass away. And during this time, a child may be passive, or very unoriginal, because he is trying to get rid of school ideas and find his own inspiration.
********************* No, he never went to school. But I think we put too much pressure on him, because when we knew he was a gifted child, someone from an association told me he sould never get bored, should learn to read very soon, etc... They stresses me, and I stressed him... And the controls are stressing me too. So, even if he didn't went to school, he had pressure on him, and I think he need to "deschool".
Thank you
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
Was your son in school before? Because we talk here about a time period for "deschooling", for letting all the stress of school pass away. And during this time, a child may be passive, or very unoriginal, because he is trying to get rid of school ideas and find his own inspiration.
********************* No, he never went to school. But I think we put too much pressure on him, because when we knew he was a gifted child, someone from an association told me he sould never get bored, should learn to read very soon, etc... They stresses me, and I stressed him... And the controls are stressing me too. So, even if he didn't went to school, he had pressure on him, and I think he need to "deschool".
Thank you
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
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From: Elizabeth Hill
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
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-=- I'm afraid that we "broke" something in him, his love for life, his
enthusiasm.-=-**
Hi, Sylvie --
Was your son in school before? Because we talk here about a time period for "deschooling", for letting all the stress of school pass away. And during this time, a child may be passive, or very unoriginal, because he is trying to get rid of school ideas and find his own inspiration. (You can probably find a better description on Sandra's webpages.)
My son was never in school, and we never had significant TV restrictions, but when we moved we had poor reception which limited us to 3 clear channels and a few more that were hard to see.. Eventually we got a satellite TV service with 100 channels, some that ran cartoons all day. There was heavy viewing here for nearly 6 months, before it tapered off. I hadn't thought it would last so long, and it did bother me (but I didn't express that to my son). Because we were far from our friends, and struggled to find new friends, I think the TV usage was increased.
Betsy
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Sylvie Martin
What can be more healthy
than living freely in his own choices? Air isn't everything. Many sad people
are breathing clean air, but they don't breathe as deeply, and they wish they
were breathing different air, anywhere else.
*********************************** You find the words that I need to hear ! :-)) When I read it, it seem to me so obvious... it really talks to me.
Thank you so much..
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
than living freely in his own choices? Air isn't everything. Many sad people
are breathing clean air, but they don't breathe as deeply, and they wish they
were breathing different air, anywhere else.
*********************************** You find the words that I need to hear ! :-)) When I read it, it seem to me so obvious... it really talks to me.
Thank you so much..
Sylvie (Eliott le Magicien, Tom le Héros et Lilou la Fée)
www.yourtes-tipis.com
----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
In a message dated 1/10/05 4:54:39 AM, eliott2@... writes:
<< Waouh ! Two years ! And you were not anxious for the health ? Maybe it's a
stupid question, but I always think about it...
>>
There are children who are in a hospital bed for two years, and they get out
and survive later. But he's NOT in traction or a cast or such a thing. He's
healthy (right?) and moving and happy and whole. What can be more healthy
than living freely in his own choices? Air isn't everything. Many sad people
are breathing clean air, but they don't breathe as deeply, and they wish they
were breathing different air, anywhere else.
Sandra
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Thank you Nichole ! :-)) I try to do it, but we leave in a place where it's 10 or sometimes 20 under zero ! And our house isn't well isolated. But I will do.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani
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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Hello
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From: Sylvie Martin
I'm afraid by TV airs, for health, by my child doesn't breath fresh air, he has his eyes flowing.
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If you are concerned about his quality of air, open a window for a few minutes or get an air cleaner. Either would benefit the whole family.
Nichole
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