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In a message dated 10/9/2005 12:28:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
msaraann@... writes:

-=-My 3-yr-old doesn't show symptoms until the day after eating a
gluten-containing food. Even when I see those symptoms and ask her if
she feels sick, she often says no. She doesn't know which food caused
the symptoms.-=-


If a few bites of donut produce some symptoms, that might be how she learned
*herself* about her condition and how to be aware and conscious and to
manage her choices wisely. Donuts don't have to come in increments of WHOLE
donut, half a dozen or a dozen.

What if a few bites of donut would produce NO symptoms?

Sandra








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Sara McGrath

> If a few bites of donut produce some symptoms, that might be how she learned
> *herself* about her condition and how to be aware and conscious and to
> manage her choices wisely. Donuts don't have to come in increments of WHOLE
> donut, half a dozen or a dozen.
>
> What if a few bites of donut would produce NO symptoms?

Even when no noticeable symptoms are present, any amount of gluten
damages the intestines. It may also cause depression and irritability.
It's not just a tummy ache. You'd have to know more about celiac's
disease to understand the variety of dangers. The intestines are slow
to heal, and while they do so, they don't absorb nutrients well, and
the person feels terrible. Even foods that don't contain gluten can
cause a reaction if they were produced on the same equipment as
something that does. That's why you see those types of warnings on
labels.

Anyway, I'm unsuccessfully preventing my daughter from experiencing
gluten reactions since gluten is so hard to avoid, so she gets plenty
of opportunity to know that something is wrong, just not a direct
association between a bite of food and how she feels.

And I think this is where my dislike of sugar comes in. Because gluten
causes depression in me, and I think in my daughter as well, I crave
sugar to balance out the damage, but this isn't a healthy choice. It's
a negative cycle. My daughter goes crazy for sugar. I saw that when
she was under two years old. It doesn't make her happy. She becomes
obsessed, and will not stop until an entire pan of brownies is gone.
And contrary to my inclination, I have never limited her when there's
a treat available. I've never told her no when she asks for one.

sara

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In a message dated 10/9/2005 12:37:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
msaraann@... writes:

And I think this is where my dislike of sugar comes in. Because gluten
causes depression in me, and I think in my daughter as well, I crave
sugar to balance out the damage, but this isn't a healthy choice. It's
a negative cycle. My daughter goes crazy for sugar. I saw that when
she was under two years old. It doesn't make her happy.


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That's a lot of depression and damage and negativity.
It's not making either of you happy.

There are other factors in life and health besides nutrition. A person on a
perfect diet could die of depression and negativity.

If there's no room for a person to discuss choices or natural learning or
freedoms, it's not a good discussion for this list.

Sandra


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Sara McGrath

I don't know where anyone got the idea that I limit my daughters'
intake of sugar. I don't. I don't tell her it's bad. She's very young.
I just wish I knew what to do about how it affects her.

Sara

Joyce Fetteroll

On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Sara McGrath wrote:

> I just wish I knew what to do about how it affects her.

How about not having it in the house unless she asks for it? People
with older kids wouldn't be able to take advantage of that but no
reason you can't. Make fruit and other things she likes easily
available and more fun. Cut up fruit and veggies for her and keep
them handy in the refrigerator. Bring plates of food to her when she
might be hungry. Cheese cubes on a plate with toothpicks. Non sugared
PB to dip bananas into.

Joyce



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Sara McGrath

> How about not having it in the house unless she asks for it? People
> with older kids wouldn't be able to take advantage of that but no
> reason you can't.

That's what I do. It's what I said I did in the first place (that I
don't bring things into the home, tv and sugar). That's what got me
into this awful discussion.

sara